the council of british archaeology have made several attempts to find it
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the council of british archaeology have made several attempts to find it
The fact that these things come as such a surprise with "not much evidence" (ie no evidence) must surely tell us quite a lot.
Liverpool, unlike most of the other towns/cities in the UK, isn't very old, and its history has been documented rather well.
The Mersey Tunnel, for instance, took 9 years to dig (with all the available 20th century equipment), so it's not going to be likely that some amateurs managed to dig one hundreds (?) of years before.
Hi Philip, chezza, and MissInformed
Yes I am skeptical about it given that at the time, in the Middle Ages, there would not have been the technology to dig that distance.
It sounds to me as if the story might be in the same league as Keith Andrews's claim that the mass grave in Old Swan is evidence of a plot by the British to exterminate the Irish, to kill 3,561 of them. But just think about it, such a scheme would have necessitated transporting 3,000+ people out to Old Swan to an internment camp and shooting them, none of which was witnessed -- the transportation, the internment camp, nor the shooting. And that claim is made against other evidence that the Liverpool health official at the time of the disinternment, Mr. Ken Williams, says shows the people were not shot and that some of the coffins had plaques showing a date of 1859 not 1848 as Andrews maintains, and that there were child burials in the grave which Andrews says there were not.
Well, chezza and MissInformed, it comes down to what should we believe:
Facts or make believe?
Best regards
Chris
i will have a look for the information from the CBA and hopefully prove it one way or another lol
I work at RS Clare at the moment and I haven't seen or heard of any tunnels while I have been here. I even asked the boss when I first read this post. No one here knows of any tunnels...but maybe they do and there are and it is a big secret which I am not privy to yet seeing as I am new and only the temp.
great to know we now have an inside spy!!
LOL! Yes! I will snoop around on my lunch breaks and see if I can see anything suspicious? O.o'' Hope I dont get fired lol!
I was told this rumour in the mid-1970s, but I haven't heard anything else on the rumour-grapevine since. My own opinion is that it has a small chance of being true. 200 years ago the shore-line would have been different. There are more famous rumours of a tunnel around the Baltic Fleet pub, so who knows for certain.
This area of Toxteth is old, but one day it will no doubt be re-developed for apartments, so we may find out in 10 or 20 years time.
Here's a link to Clares website giving some history...mentions it would have fronted the shore and still has brick vaults...interesting.
http://www.rsclare.co.uk/news/news-d...r=2007&month=2
Anyway, here's one of Liverpools' most important street-signs...which for some reason didn't feature in the recent campaign to remove the slave streets...Captain Hugh Crow
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/165/4...9b6eded8a3.jpg
S'not to be sniffed at that Marky and I like the 'Watch out there's a thief about' sticker on the burglar alarm.
Yes,somebody did. ;) [not me]
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=411816
I went past the site recently-currently they've dug down about three storeys below Caryl St-and so far the whole lot hasn't collapsed into Cain's lake. Yet!
Dave.
For :064:'s sake! isn't the council going to leave us with any of our Heritage? I used to go past these buildings on the way to work in Sefton Street and you used to see massive barges being constructed and always the flash of a blue torch. Now they're gone for some MORE high rise flats.
It's horrible to say this, but I can't wait for 2008 to come and go so we show our city off and then everyone naffs off and leaves the city like a ghost town.
Then I will be the 1st person to knock on the Council Offices and kindly show them what we've lost, how many flats are now empty and tell them 'I told you so'.
:handclap:
I don't want them to leave the city like a ghost town. That would just be sad. I am angry as well about them knocking down alot of the older buildings. some of them where really beautiful pieces of architectural heritage, grade two listed buildings, and they knocked them down. They have also took away alot of the parkland in the city centre, so where will people go now to sit and relax on a hot day? It really annoys me. I used to go for quiet sits on chavasse park, when they took that away I went to man island but now there is the park behind the georges hall an thats it.
Back onto Clares, there are vaults underneath, I am not allowed to see them though cus of health and safety. Dunno if there are tunnels though.
And funny someone should post a sign of crow street, I was going to do that very thing this morning but I saw someone had beat me to it XD.