East Liverpool ghosts and oddities

I'm having real trouble finding stories for East Liverpool for my Book.

Obviously I'll be including Croxteth Hall but, to be honest, information seems to be rather thin on the ground for that one.

I've also got a someone whose giving me a personal account of a suburban haunting in Croxteth but, other than that, I can't find anything.

To my surprise, I haven't come up with any stories for Old Swan, Knotty Ash, Fairfield, Kensington or Low Hill. Does any one have any ideas? Any obvious haunted locations or stories that I'm missing?

Cheers for all you help.

Do you know of the spirits in the Red House, Old Swan?

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Originally Posted by Ged

Do you know of the spirits in the Red House, Old Swan?

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No, can't say as I've heard of it. It's a pub isn't it? You're not going to tell me they're two for one are you?

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Originally Posted by Ged

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See, I might not have been here that long but I've got the measure of you.

Anyone had any ideas or thoughts about this yet? I'm quite stuck to be honest. :(

It was in last weeks Echo that Most haunted are doing a show from St. Georges Hall. It'll be one of these where they set up infra red cameras and temperature change detection equipment and have a studio audience.

Then one or two orbs will eventually float past, Yvette Fielding will scream and they'll all get in a lather over nothing.

Members of my family worked here over many years and i've stayed the night and explored unchartered areas, all unfortunately before I thought of photographing these locations. However, they'll no doubt set the cameras up in only the usual suspect places like one of the whitewashed cells etc but the real scary places are down by the boiler room, the doctors room, which is cold (and down near where they dug the underground loop line in the 70s) and also up in the curved roofspace. Having said that, no-one I know, including 2 of my mates who were caretakers there ever saw anything.

Plenty of weird noises though and traffic on Lime street etc when you're down in the bowels under the grids near the plateau, but nothing you couldn't really expect in a big old building.

Tuebrook house is supposed to be haunted. Also the Old Seaman's Orphanage in Newsham Park. I know the staff there said that there were plenty of sightings/manifestations. Unfortunately it has fell into disrepair in recent years.

As Jim Royale would say "Ghosts my A*£e":PDT10

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Originally Posted by Ged

It was in last weeks Echo that Most haunted are doing a show from St. Georges Hall. It'll be one of these where they set up infra red cameras and temperature change detection equipment and have a studio audience.

Then one or two orbs will eventually float past, Yvette Fielding will scream and they'll all get in a lather over nothing.

Members of my family worked here over many years and i've stayed the night and explored unchartered areas, all unfortunately before I thought of photographing these locations. However, they'll no doubt set the cameras up in only the usual suspect places like one of the whitewashed cells etc but the real scary places are down by the boiler room, the doctors room, which is cold (and down near where they dug the underground loop line in the 70s) and also up in the curved roofspace. Having said that, no-one I know, including 2 of my mates who were caretakers there ever saw anything.

Plenty of weird noises though and traffic on Lime street etc when you're down in the bowels under the grids near the plateau, but nothing you couldn't really expect in a big old building.

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I had a fella contact me a while back promising stories of his time at saint George's. It all sounded very interesting but, for some reason, he's not been back in touch despite several emails from me.

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Originally Posted by Mark R

Tuebrook house is supposed to be haunted. Also the Old Seaman's Orphanage in Newsham Park. I know the staff there said that there were plenty of sightings/manifestations. Unfortunately it has fell into disrepair in recent years.

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Cheers Mark, I can have a dig about at least can't I? (I don't mean literally, obviously...)

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Originally Posted by John(Zappa)

As Jim Royale would say "Ghosts my A*£e":PDT10

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Yeah, thanks for that John mate. :neutral:

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Originally Posted by researchwriter

Yeah, thanks for that John mate. :neutral:

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Yer welco:PDT_Aliboronz_24:me

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Cheers Mark, I can have a dig about at least can't I? (I don't mean literally, obviously...)

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Yes, I should imagine so. Good luck.

You've probably tried this already but how about placing a small ad in a local paper, or even seeing if they would like to do a story on it? perhaps see if you can get on local radio. I believe there is a ghost walk called 'shiverpool' maybe the guide would be a good place to start. I've always found that people are happy to talk about there experiences you just have to find them!

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Originally Posted by brenda starr

You've probably tried this already but how about placing a small ad in a local paper, or even seeing if they would like to do a story on it? perhaps see if you can get on local radio. I believe there is a ghost walk called 'shiverpool' maybe the guide would be a good place to start. I've always found that people are happy to talk about there experiences you just have to find them!

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Brenda, you're absolutely right that it's just a case of finding the right people but, sadly, my deadline is closing in.

I've been putting handbills in shops and libraries, posting online, been interviewed on internet radio, all since I started working on the book last year. I've even had an extract from the book published in a Liverpool free newspaper. The sad fact is that the likes if the Merseymart, Radio Merseyside and the Echo already have their own resident ghost writers/experts and don't seem very interested in what I'm doing.
As for the Shiverpool tours, I've met people who work for them and heard some of the stories they tell. These are no doubt wonderful when you're on the tour but a bit too melodramatic for what I'm working on. Also, their versions of these tales (like Tom Slemen's) will be copyrighted and therefore illegal for me to use.

Sorry to sound so negative, all your suggestions make perfect sense and I'm very grateful for them; I just felt I should explain my position.

Cheers

Researchwriter, remember that not all of Tom Slemens stories are bull****, some of them have a genuine basis in truth before the Arse-Sorryteller (sorry, Arch-Storyteller) gets his sensationalizing hands upon them.

One of his tales mentioned a UFO in in North Liverpool years ago, my mother who was only a child then but she maintains that her and my aunt saw something similar to what Slemen described.

As it was a general event and people like my mother are still alive and probably remember it I cannot see why he would have any copyright or assosiated claims over the story. I mean, it's not like he had copyright worries when he pillaged Wittington-Egans books for his first few publications.

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Researchwriter, remember that not all of Tom Slemens stories are bull****, some of them have a genuine basis in truth before the Arse-Sorryteller (sorry, Arch-Storyteller) gets his sensationalizing hands upon them.

One of his tales mentioned a UFO in in North Liverpool years ago, my mother who was only a child then but she maintains that her and my aunt saw something similar to what Slemen described.

As it was a general event and people like my mother are still alive and probably remember it I cannot see why he would have any copyright or assosiated claims over the story. I mean, it's not like he had copyright worries when he pillaged Wittington-Egans books for his first few publications.

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Fortinian, I couldn't possibly comment on whether Mr. Slemen's stories were embellished or not but, if I was to use his work as a source and there were details of it which had not previously appeared elsewhere, that is where (I believe) the copyright issue would come in. I have no doubt that there are plenty of people out there who have witnessed some of things he has described and, of course, their testimony would not be under his copyright. To be honest, my book is already going to be called Haunted Liverpool (since all of Tempus Publishing's books in this series are called Haunted [insert city or town name here]) so I want to try to steer clear of Mr. Slemen's work as much as is possible.

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