Does anyone remember the windmill in newsham park? :037:
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Does anyone remember the windmill in newsham park? :037:
No, but here ya go...
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...a/0ba7_1_b.jpg
MarkA,
Thanks, I have looked for a pic before and was never able to find one. It stood on the edge of the small lake . In that pic it is in way better condition than it was when I was a kid. When I remember it from the sails only had the frames left. :037:
I did a search in Google and that postcard was sold in December for £20.77 on eBay. Just searching through eBay now and there's loads of old Liverpool stuff for sale from postcards to OS maps of areas from around the 1900's. It'd be worth doing what I did, go through eBay and save any pictures you find.
Here's one for Max. The base of this still exists around the area of the Coffee House...
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...a/3747_1_b.jpg
The coffee House? It's just off Woolton Road!
http://www.dhwav.btinternet.co.uk/page59.html
Beverley Road.
According to this the remains have been cleared for redevelopment long ago.
http://www.dhwav.btinternet.co.uk/page59.html
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Wow ! I never knew that there had been a windmill in Newsham park.
Living in Anfield all my life I have been to that park billions of times - and I never heard of that before !
Youse young kids missed a lot. :)
It was removed in the late 50's, it had been neglected and was unsafe.
I don't know what its real purpose was but someone told me when I was kid that it was a water pump to keep the lakes full. :037:
Yuppers, think I've mentioned to Shy, before that I remember the windmill. close to the small lake, and near to a corrugated iron leanto that served as the mens bogs. There's one for you convenience collectors. Boy! was this one ripe. Lol.
Thanks MarkA, Shy, and everyone. The Newsham Park windmill, which is new to me, looks to me to have been an ornamental mill or one that perhaps had some function for the lake rather than ever a working flour mill like the wooden post mill that stood in Wavertree.
I concur that the Wavertree Mill was not near the Coffee House. When I did a survey of mills as a project for architecture class when I was attending Quarry Bank I visited the base of the mill and it was indeed off the intersection of Woolton Road and Church Road behind some houses on those respective roads. The map on the Historic Wavertree site locates it just south of Woolton Road and north of Beverly Road.
Chris
Hi all
As noted on the Historic Wavertree site, the Wavertree Mill was a post mill, and the way such a mill worked was that the mill was physically turned round on its base to meet the prevailing winds. The below illustration is of such a recreated mill in colonial Williamburg, Virginia. On the left in the photograph, you can see the long post on a wheel that would have been moved to change the position of the mill.
Chris
http://www.ohlone.palo-alto.ca.us/Wi...20windmill.jpg
Windmill in Colonial Williamsburg, Virginia. Courtesy of "Your Teacher Takes You to Colonial Virginia"
Hi all
Photographs by Sue Adair of the tower mill in Moor Lane, Great Crosby, are at
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/72161
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/72159
Sue notes that, "Dated 1813, this windmill still produced wholemeal flour for local bakeries until the 1970's. It is now a private residence."
Chris
Here's my contribution, courtesy of the Records Office at Liverpool City Library:
Fantastic pics, Ta. :037:
They're wonderful pictures, Kev.
Were the locations identified?
There was once a windmill in Smithdown Lane too.....
The illustrations in Kev's post are (L-R, top to bottom):
Wavertree 1909;
Springfield Mill, Walton Road 1919 (built about 1800, demolished in the 1920s or 30s);
Limekiln Lane (i.e. Lime Street Station site) 1771;
Springfield Mill again;
Wavertree c1895;
Shaw’s Brow (roughly the site of the Walker Art Gallery) c1825 – there were two windmills here, plus one on the site of the fountain outside the Art Gallery and the row of windmills along where Lime Street station now is);
Junction of Marybone and Stockdale Street (now under the course of Leeds St, I think – I can’t find any record of this windmill except this one painting);
New Townsend Mill, North Shore (near the junction of Waterloo Road and Regent Street). Built 1792, burnt out 1880 and the three storey stump demolished in 1953;
New Townsend Mill again;
Shaw’s Brow again (viewed from roughly where the Tunnel entrance is now)
Wishing Gate Mill (roughly where the north end of Bath Street is);
Wishing Gate again;
Mill by St Alban’s Church, Bevington Bush. There were four windmills here until the 1860s and the tower of the most northerly one was still there in the 1960s.
There were a total of 74 windmills in Liverpool between 1250 and 1900, and remains of five still existed until after 1945 – Scott’s or Wilson’s Mill, Toxteth (demolished c1960); Leicester’s Mill, Scotland Road / Bevington Bush (demolished 1960s); New Townsend Mill (demolished 1953); Wavertree (remains of foundations cleared away in 1986); Newsham Park.
Newsham Park mill was built in 1868-69 to maintain the water levels in the lakes. The builder was James Burroughs and Son of Liverpool (quote for the work £380), machinery by Owens and Co. of London (£138). It remained in use until the 1920s at least, and was demolished in 1954.
Gareth
Anyone ever seen this Liverpool windmill?
Thanks Gareth, I remember Newsham Park mill when I was a kid. This is the most information I have ever seen about it.Quote:
Newsham Park mill was built in 1868-69 to maintain the water levels in the lakes. The builder was James Burroughs and Son of Liverpool (quote for the work £380), machinery by Owens and Co. of London (£138). It remained in use until the 1920s at least, and was demolished in 1954.
Gareth
That Mill is in Colin Wilkinson's book 'Liverpool from the air'. I#ve also seen Springfield and Scotland Road disused Mills in other books I have.
When I was young I was dragged along to see something getting demolished on the flour mill site (Wilson King/Scotts mill etc). I was viewing from Corn Street, looking towards Bran Street area. There was a crowd of people around. You don't really take notice of such things when you're young, so it could well have been a chimney for all I know.
This couldn't have been any earlier than the late 1960s.
Hi PhilipG
I took photographs of Scott's Mill in Toxteth for a project on local mills for architecture class at Quarry Bank High School, where I attended 1965-1967, so I know the old windmill was still there at that time. Those photos are among a pile of photos of old Liverpool that I have to get digitized.
Chris
Thanks everyone, especially Chris for the dates.
I was 99% sure I'd seen it marked on a 1966 OS map.
Now I'm 100% sure.