I'm not liking that,I'm not a massive fan of all the Mann Island buildings and the development would spoil on of the best vistas in Liverpool but I love the x building and I'd be sad to see that scuppered.
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I'm not liking that,I'm not a massive fan of all the Mann Island buildings and the development would spoil on of the best vistas in Liverpool but I love the x building and I'd be sad to see that scuppered.
Planning managers are recommending the waterfront scheme, a venture by local
developers Neptune and Countrywise Properties, should be approved.
more....
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Waterfront plan decision put back
A decision has been delayed on plans for the former site of Liverpool's
doomed Fourth Grace project.
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The granite-clad
buildings are cut
into different shapes
The £120m waterfront scheme consists of three wedge-shaped buildings on Mann Island, built next to
the controversial X-shaped Museum of Liverpool.
The city's planning committee should have discussed the plans on Tuesday.
But a report on
its suitability, by UNESCO and the International Council on Monuments and Sites, was not received by the council until Monday night.
A council
spokesman said the committee would now hear the application on 7 November.
"It was felt members needed time to consider the report," said a council
spokesman.
'Harm' claim
The city was given World Heritage Status in 2004 with inspectors from UNESCO and the International Council
on Monuments and Sites visiting the city last week to check on future developments.
Opponents claim the buildings, two of which will be residential,
could harm the area's architectural heritage.
The groups opposing the scheme, include the Liverpool Preservation Trust, The Victorian Society and
Albert Dock Residents Association.
Some claim the modern scheme would cause serious harm to the architectural and historic significance of the
Liverpool waterfront.
But supporters say the structures will complement, rather than compete with, the city's waterfront.
The three
granite-clad buildings would house more than 300 apartments in two buildings, as well as offices, shops, bars and restaurants.
'Important
scheme'
Developers Neptune and Countryside Properties said the buildings will frame views of the city's Three Graces - the Port of Liverpool
Building, Cunard Building and the Liver Building.
The plans are backed by English Heritage, Liverpool Vision and the North West Development Agency.
David Wade-Smith, of regeneration agency Liverpool Vision, said the buildings were right for the 21st Century.
"It's such an important
scheme for the city and an important scheme for the waterfront.
"It's also a very high quality piece of modern architecture to compliment the
heritage of the Mersey waterfront.
Mr Wade-Smith said he was confident the development would not affect the city's world heritage status and urged
critics to consider the time they would be built in.
"I'd ask them to look back 100 years when people were objecting so strongly to buildings such
as the Liver Building.
"This building represents the future."
Source: BBC
NEWS | Merseyside
Never mind about all the heritage stuff, it simply looks like a pile of shiite.
I know I'm starting to think like that,i
like the museum though.
Can't say I
like the black granite but there does need to be something done with the area between the Pier Head and the Albert Dock.
'Wedges'
pulled at eleventh hour
Oct 25 2006
By Sam Lister Daily Post
Staff
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CONTENTIOUS plans to
build three wedge-shaped apartment blocks near Liverpool's Three Graces were withdrawn just hours before a meeting to decide their fate
yesterday.
Officials in charge of monitoring the World Heritage waterfront handed over their report into the plans late on Monday night, causing
confusion among city planners.
Although the emergency report by architecture experts from Unesco found the scheme was unlikely to affect the city's
heritage title, it recommended the council should be "cautious" about the plans, as well as those for the equally controversial proposed museum.
The
application has now been delayed for two weeks while the council works out the legal
implications.
Story continues...
It looks like they'll still be approved in 2 weeks time though.
Pink! :mad:
Looks like they used pink bricks in Canal St. Manchester.:037:
To bring this thread back on topic...
Chamber chief backs Mann Island project
ONE of Liverpool's
most influential business leaders is backing development plans for Mann Island as a "key link" in the vision for the transformation of Liverpool's
waterfront.
David Wade-Smith, chairman of Liverpool's Chamber of Commerce and founding member of the Liverpool Vision board, believes that the £113m
mixed-use development, which is due to be considered by Liverpool City Council's planning committee later this month, will complement plans for the new
Museum of Liverpool and the Pier Head canal link as well as providing a major commercial boost for the wider waterfront.
He said: "Neptune and
Countryside's development on Mann Island is an eloquent statement about Liverpool's future ambition and its commercial resurgence. It is also a vital
component in the big picture vision for the city centre."
Mr Wade-Smith believes the restaurants, shops and exhibition venue proposed at Mann Island
will also be good news for existing waterfront businesses.
"The Mann Island development will create a vibrant new leisure and cultural destination
that will link with the Albert Dock, Kings Waterfront and the new Pier Head. We have fabulous architecture and breathtaking views, but we also need a
critical mass of commercial and cultural activity if we are to create a successful destination.
"I believe the Mann Island site is the most important
development site in the North West with a pivotal location at the heart of our waterfront, and also forming a crucial link between the commercial district
around Old Hall Street and the new retail district offered by Grosvenor and Liverpool One."
Neptune managing director Steve Parry said: "We welcome
the support of David Wade-Smith and other business and regeneration leaders who recognise the importance of this key site."
Source:
The Business Week
How much of the docks is exactly mann Island?
Ta, always wondered why it was called island.:037:
It was a man made island. Orginianally before Georges
Dock the river was on two sides.
All the docks are built into the river on wooden piles except Stanley Dock, part of Heculaneum Dock and most of
Wapping Dock. With the building of ships, making docks and houses in the cities and towns they ran out of wood. That is why Lairds started to make iron
hulled ships and cast iron churches were being built: Everton and St. Micheals - prefabbed churches were exported via the Cast Iron shore. Canada Dock was
built to import timber from Canada to plug the timber shortage gap. The dock was built away from the rest of the docks in case of fire. Later docks were
built between Canada and Clarence Dock.
Everton had more than one church and there were more than one St Micks. I
think you're referring to St George's Church, Everton, Heyworth Street and St Michael's, Church Road, Aigburth.
By the way, Oriel Chambers was a
combination of cast iron and glass. On its completion, it was described as a "great abortion" and an "agglomeration of plate glass bubbles." Sound
familiar?:unibrow:
A CAR showroom, built in the 1930s, should be listed to prevent it from being
demolished as part of the Mann Island redevelopment, a pressure group said last night.
The influential Twentieth Century Society wants the neoclassical
building saved and brought back to use.
Currently, it will have to be flattened to allow a mixed use development by Neptune and Countryside
Developments, consisting of three wedge-shaped blocks faced with black granite.
The garage was designed to blend with the Mersey Tunnel Ventilation
Tower, designed by celebrated Liverpool architect Herbert Rowse, who was also responsible for India Buildings, Martins Bank Building and the Philharmonic
Hall.
In a plea to Liverpool City Council, society director, Catherine Croft, says: "In order to clear the Mann Island site, a neoclassical former
garage will have to be demolished. This is a good example of a scarce building type that we feel should be listed and ideally retained."
Ms Croft adds
in a report to the planning department that the government's own conservation agency had praised the building.
She said: "We note that the English
Heritage Inspector's report concluded 'The building appears to be well maintained and capable of ongoing beneficial use'."
The planning committee
meets next week to consider whether the go-ahead should be given to the three wedges with planning officers recommending approval.
The Twentieth Century
Society has told the council it wishes to object.
Ms Croft states: "We feel that the proposals would have a major impact on an outstanding group of 20th
century listed buildings.
"Unesco's designation of the site specifically requests the UK to ensure that the setting of the Liverpool maritime
waterfront is not compromised by unsympathetic high rise development adjacent to the site."
The society's North West chairman Aidan Turner-Bishop also
voiced concerns.
Last night he said: "Liverpool's Pier Head site is so precious in an international context that it's very worrying it is being
treated as it is, by the council and developers.
"There needs to be a proper site management plan, preferably independently monitored.
"To approve
any developments which contravene a decision by Unesco would be premature and ill-considered."
City officials insist the Neptune scheme, as well as the
proposedMuseum of Liverpool scheme by National Museums Liverpool, will not compromise or threaten the coveted World Heritage Status.
larryneild@dailypost.co.uk
Its only a matter of time before the 22nd century association in Liverpool want a dog turd listing.
Ridiculous!!!
A £120m plan to transform Mann Island alongside Liverpool’s World Heritage
waterfront was approved by councillors this afternoon.
Despite protests by conservationists the scheme won the go-ahead on the casting vote of the
planning committee chairman Cllr Lady Doreen Jones.
Committee member Peter Allen urged the committee to defer a final decision until a report is produced
in mid-December by a World Heritage Site mission from UNESCO but this suggestion was rejected. The committee was divided 4-4, which brought into play the
casting vote.
Developers Neptune and Countryside Properties now plan to start work on April on three granite-faced buildings that will provide
apartments, offices, leisure facilities and an under-cover wintergarden area.
Neptune managing director Steve Parry said the site opposite the Port of
Liverpool Building at the Pier Head was one of the most important in the North West.
Opponents protested that some of the world-famous views of
Liverpool’s Three Graces will be lost forever as a result of the decision.
The committee was told that the project posed no threat to Liverpool’s status
as a World Heritage Site.
A mission from UNESCO was in Liverpool last month to investigate claims that the coveted status could be at risk from
insensitive development schemes.
TAKE a virtual tour of the Mann Island
proposals here (© Uniform Communications Ltd)
Source.....
what a crap decision.
these are going to be windswept pig ugly lumps.