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jc_everton
WW just assumed that us suburbanites shun public transport for the car
Most do.
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And as for your remark about us only using the city for work.... how narrow-minded is that???
True most only use the centre for work or for the odd shopping trip.
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Maybe you're right... Burscough has far better shops, restaurants, bars, clubs etc etc etc!!! So why would I want to go to Liverpool?!
Burscough? I haven't been around there for years. Las Vegas eat your heart out :)
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Your counter-argument will include the word 'needs'. So in the inner city, do they not have basic food stores and supermarkets? If you lived near County Road or Smithdown Road, would you really have to go to the city to buy your 'needs'? People in the inner cities use the city for exactly the same reasons as suburbanites, so why do you keep separating the two? You have no consideration of the word 'integration'.
Proximity is the key. My mother would occasionally, just "pop into town", those relative in West Derby went occasionally as it was an effort to get there.
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Trams will not fill the gaps of the suburbs, the lines would be too long and unnecessary.
That is exactly what they were used for. The boulevards were designwide wide reservations to take them.
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Speaking of Gateacre, I don't know why people have been talking about the old CLC Line - that is long gone, except for the curve to Gateacre where we have the potential to create a large car park for park and ride.
The track bed is still there.
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Anywhere north of there is too close to houses and it's a well used cycle path. It's like the old 'Get Rid of the Garage at Dingle Tunnel and Sod the Workers' attitude.
The workers and a small business can move . It is not the Jaguar factory.
The CLC track bed? Well it can go underground :) :)
Bringing the line back into use, the benefits to the local community have to be assessed against those who will back onto the railway. The track beds were deliberately not built upon, in case of re-use. The people who bought there must have known that.
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As much as it'd be great it's not an over-riding priority. However, I do agree that the areas around that line, from Gateacre through West Derby, right up to Lydiate could do with a train service.
The 1970s idea was to get to Edge Hill at Broad Green, which would have been extensive works. Then a southern loop was formed using the Wapping Tunnel and then branch into the Northern Line tunnel and through Central Stn and back to Hunts X, Gatacre, etc.
The Gatacre Line closing was a big thing in the 1970s. It was to close then public pressure stopped it, then it closed - on temporary basis I recall (maybe why the track bed was left). It was always in the Echo. If the line was temporarily taken out of action, ten anyone buying house backing onto the trackbed would have known a rail line could be re-introduced as a search would bring that up. So, they would have no gripe if a the line was re-used.