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Important Announcement regarding those who registered with Hotmail Emails/ Accounts:
Problem:
Those members who have registered with a Hotmail email address/ account need to be aware that PM notifications are not working.
For example: Kev@hotmail.com
PLEASE NOTE:
When an error is produced, an error message is sent to the forum Administrator (Me). I am currently receiving about 5/6 per day.
Within the error message are the complete contents of the Private Message. This concerns you!
Receiving error messages is all part and parcel of Administrating a forum.
HOWEVER.
It was a couple of days ago that I received an error message that concerned me.
Please read:
DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL!
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Dear [Username Removed],
You have received a new private message at Liverpool Web Site & Forum
from [Username Removed], entitled "Re: Kev".
To read the original version, respond to, or delete this message, you
must log in here:
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This is the message that was sent:
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---Quote (Originally by [Username Removed])---
Grrrrrrrrr!
Kev is annoying me!
I still don't want to post details of our meet ups on the main forum
because there are people on here we all would rather not meet, let alone
have to socialise with!
Read what Kev said in the private members area about him being 'busy'
at the mo...I don't care! He would never come to a meet up anyway, he
much would prefer to hide behind his computer.
Sorry for the rant, he just annoys me!
[Username Removed]
x
---End Quote---
What a bloody shame :PDT_Xtremez_12:
What I will say is that I am extremely insulted, hurt, saddened and disappointed at the 'goings-on' behind the scenes, it was only by chance that I received this within an error message to my email address.
How on Earth someone can make a judgement/ form an opinion of me without even meeting me is beyond me *shakes head*.
I would love to attend a meetup in the future (as many of you would) but it seems that I'm not welcome (and never would be), only a certain group are being invited.
Folks, a public forum like Yo! is there for all to see, your contributions are fantastic and make this place what it is, millions of people have visited us, that is a fact.
Good forum relations are extremely important, as negativity only breeds nastiness and its not productive.
I will not have anyone using the forum features, compromising the integrity and reputation of the forum or ****ging me off with no reason to do so.
If you want to continue contributing to our success, than you are most welcome.
If not, then there are plenty of other forums out there. You are welcome to join them.
I can only apologise to the wonderful members who have recently joined us, plus the longer standing members who have been with us a while.
That's all I've got to say now.
Kev
John(Zappa) 04-04-2008, 09:22 PM There are some real gob$&£tes about !!
People who will hide behind computers and **** someone off,call names,start rumours etc etc are just either jealous or a coward.
Kev, I will be the first to admit that in the past we have had our differences and we had the decency and nous to sort it out.
The cheek of that though.I hope they have been banned.:PDT10
You got a good Liverpool website and worked hard at it. As well as having a family,working and having a life YOU MUST TURN UP AT THESE "MEET UPS".!!!
Name the person who wrote it and see what they have to say for themselves.
I also hope you emailed em' and asked for their explanation!!
I can't believe that.How dare you not go!!!:PDT10
Cadfael 04-04-2008, 09:34 PM Walls do have ears don't they.
As Toad once said in Toad Hall when it was taken over by the weasles 'The cheek of it - and in my own Banqeting Hall too'!
We don't need to know who it was Kev, but it's YOUR forum, they should be given a swift ban in my opinion. You never **** off the forum owner via the forum!
Shame on whoever it was. :PDT_Xtremez_12:
naked lilac 04-04-2008, 09:44 PM I just questioned this this morning ...
I haven't been getting pm's notifications for about a week.. And find infringement of privacy should be let known to members immediately..so, they can choose to check or uncheck these boxes in their control panels..
I am wondering.? I unchecked my two boxes that notify us.. but, wonder...... Can you still read our pms? If so, please let us know... PM'ing should be just that, Private messaging.. unless someone is harassing you, and needs help.... thanks...
quincyg 04-04-2008, 10:03 PM I'm still fairly new on this site, but it was this kind of thing that made me leave other sites in the past. I was on one site where there were more than a dozen people having a go at each other all the time.
As for PM's I think the forum owner can read the messages if they so choose, but with so many going back and forth on any one day they probably wouldn't have the time to read every single one.
I love it here. I'm getting to interact with like minded people who have a passion for local history, Liverpool and photography.
The pictures are great, the banter is for the most part friendly and I'm getting to enjoy my surroundings a lot more because of it.
I've had a good couple of days of urban exploring and posting my pix here, now I'm just feeling sad.
I've had a good couple of days of urban exploring and posting my pix here, now I'm just feeling sad.
Don't let this affect your continued excellent contributions on the forum quincy. We have long periods of settlement, lots of good times here.
I was honestly looking forwards to meeting u and others but it seems I'm not welcome by the self appointed meetup coordinator :disgust:
Kev
quincyg 04-04-2008, 10:12 PM Don't let this affect your continued excellent contributions on the forum quincy. We have long periods of settlement, lots of good times here.
I was honestly looking forwards to meeting u and others but it seems I'm not welcome by the self appointed meetup coordinator :disgust:
Kev
ok, thank you. if you ever see me out and about you can always say hello. make sure you have your rifle and tin hat on though, or I won't recognise you.
ok, thank you. if you ever see me out and about you can always say hello. make sure you have your rifle and tin hat on though, or I won't recognise you.
LOL, I'll try :PDT11
Sirob 04-04-2008, 10:37 PM Since joining, I have had a very enjoyable time. It therefore is disappointing when this kind of unholy row breaks out!!!!!!! WORSE because it is in the public domain - what must our guests think??????
There is no way that we can get on with everybody in life - but keeping ones thoughts to oneself is often the best way.
This has tarnished things for me. How about some ADULT behaviour. I was always taught that if you can't say something to someones face, then say nothing. Backstabbing is beneath comment.
Kev'a avatar says it all!
Since joining, I have had a very enjoyable time.
Long may it continue :PDT_Piratz_26:
Backstabbing is beneath comment.
Kev'a avatar says it all!
Also, a friend of mine told me a great saying, 'Loose Lips Sinks Ships'. Too true.
chrismarsden 04-04-2008, 10:46 PM I know how much Kev sacrifices to run this site and to **** him down behind his back is out of order.looking after a family and a full time job, 2 full time jobs if you include yoliverpool can't be easy.
I have known Kev personally for 7 yrs and I don' think he's got any malice in him. Even when he's drunk. So lay off.
LOL cheers Chris! :PDT11
:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Norm NZ 04-04-2008, 10:55 PM "Sad reading"! Kev. Guess I've lived long enough to say nothing surprises me now! Just hope that all this 'shinanigins' does'nt effect this 'GREAT' Forum!! May I quote my old Army Medical Corps Motto! 'Inarduis Fidelis;! (be Faithfull in Adversity)! and "carry on the good work" Cheers:PDT11
gregs dad 04-04-2008, 10:57 PM And we wonder why Nations can`t live in peace.
Cheers Norm, JZapper, Brother Cad and others for your continued support :hug:
sweetcheeks 04-05-2008, 01:28 AM I for one would fully understand your hurt Kev, that does not make nice reading, It's your site and to be perfectly honest you can do whatever you want to do, we should be grateful you allow us to use this site due to your money, hard work and time and when your fed up with it all you can take it all away. Sneaky people always get there comeupance and I'm glad you have found them out, hopefully they can go away and organise there little meetups alone, as I am sure the majority of us wouldn't want to meet up with them either so the feeling is mutual. Whoever knew about this should hang their heads in shame.
A.D.W 04-05-2008, 09:00 AM I still don't want to post details of our meet ups on the main forum because there are people on here we all would rather not meet, let alone have to socialise with!
Charming! Maybe Username Removed should post a list of users they would 'rather not meet' as to avoid any embarrassment should they turn up for a forum meetup.
Off to bed!!
:PDT_Xtremez_42:
Added - I consider Kev to be a fine fellow.
Its unfortunate that the member in question [who's account has been deleted and she won't be welcome back] took this cause of action. The Private Members area (which was set up by request and is open to all) is where forum meetups should be discussed. All I did was request this and look what happened!
Lets not forget that a while ago she left of her own accord, set up a forum all of her own [which resembled Yo! Liverpool] and then began recruiting members from here. Her fella even tried to spam that website on Yo!
Recently she was even considered for a role as another Mod or area of responsibility on Yo! Its now obviously she has no respect for me or fellow members [thats was obvious] apart from who she has deemed suitable for forum meetups. She was even pleasant whilst inquiring about these Mod roles a couple of days ago to me. Untrustworthy.
She was caught out, the PM was emailed to me, it even had one of your messages attached beforehand, this is a problem with all members who registered with a Hotmail account/ email. It was only by chance I read it.
phredd 04-05-2008, 10:42 AM "Sad reading"! Kev. Guess I've lived long enough to say nothing surprises me now! Just hope that all this 'shinanigins' does'nt effect this 'GREAT' Forum!! May I quote my old Army Medical Corps Motto! 'Inarduis Fidelis;! (be Faithfull in Adversity)! and "carry on the good work" Cheers:PDT11
I agree with you Norm. I suppose I have to being a 'Comrade in Arms'.:PDT11
Did you know that the NZ shield is the only one without the Corps moto so I am told.
Just to make you feel at home this shield was presented to me by a patient of mine in the military hospital, Kluang, Malaya back in 1964/65.
he was a burns casevac from Nam.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7214/captured20084500001yz1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
It,s a bit out of focus due to my eyes. Old age you know.
Keep the faith mate and 'In Arduis Fidelis'
Phredd (ex RAMC)
ps:- In case anyone comments on the MN badge as my avatar I was in the MN prior to the Army.
John(Zappa) 04-05-2008, 11:03 AM Anyone else who backstabs,trys to use YO as a vehicle for their backstabbing ways should be dealt with.Again I woulda named em.If they can't say it to your face they shouldn't say it at all.:PDT10
hmtmaj 04-05-2008, 11:08 AM Kev,
As a newbie, I don't write much on this forum but that doesn't mean to say I don't appreciate what you and others write and in particular the photo's of in and around Liverpool, old and new.
For the most I read friendly banter and some great stories ( Brian Daley for instance ):handclap: and the likes of Ged's jokes ( awful ):PDT10. The information from lots of other contributors should be and is, applauded.:handclap:
However when you read about others having a go at of all people the Administrator, this winds me up enough to write.
I don't think you need to name and shame, just pull the plug on them, let them go somewhere else. As I said, I enjoy reading about Liverpool's past and present, that's why I continually return.:PDT11
I don't think you need to name and shame, just pull the plug on them, let them go somewhere else. As I said, I enjoy reading about Liverpool's past and present, that's why I continually return.:PDT11
I have done, cheers hmtmaj :PDT11
RE: JohnZapp's message. Cheers mate, the lady mods will be on your case now :handclap::PDT11
sweetcheeks 04-05-2008, 11:35 AM I have done, cheers hmtmaj :PDT11
RE: JohnZapp's message. Cheers mate, the lady mods will be on your case now :handclap::PDT11
Not just the mods actually!!!! :rolleyes:
drone_pilot 04-05-2008, 12:04 PM I still don't want to post details of our meet ups on the main forum
because there are people on here we all would rather not meet, let alone
have to socialise with!
Read what Kev said in the private members area about him being 'busy'
at the mo...I don't care! He would never come to a meet up anyway, he
much would prefer to hide behind his computer.
Well I for one hope to meet Kev, as i'd like to shake his hand for putting togeather such a fine forum,
Keep up the good work Kev.:PDT11
ChrisGeorge 04-05-2008, 12:31 PM People are forgetting that this forum is run by Kev in his own time and with his own money - it's a privledge to use the forum not a right.
It doesn't matter whether PM's ARE totally private or not, I suspect that the owner of any forum can nose around - should they wish to do so.
But a, you should never have any sensitive information in a PM and b, why would anyone think that Kev would want to nose around PM's anyway?
:PDT11
Plus might I add that this is a FREE forum, for all the enjoyment and, yes, education we get from this forum. I have been always been interested in local history and in Liverpool in general, ever since the time I was in school in Liverpool in the Sixties. I can say that my knowledge of Liverpool has increased multifold since I joined Yo Liverpool and met with and corresponded with a number of the other members. Long may it continue. Thanks, Kev, for everything. :handclap:
Chris
wallasey 04-05-2008, 12:40 PM Can we have some sort of normality back on here please??
I always thourght this forum was meant to represent all the great things our city and region have going for themselves...all this squabbling isn't productive, nor is it beneficial to anyone.
Forums are meant to be a place where you sit down with a cuppa and chat with like minded people...we dont seem to be doing this lately.
Can we have some sort of normality back on here please??
Everything should be fine now.
I always thourght this forum was meant to represent all the great things our city and region have going for themselves...
It is and more thanks to its wonderful members and their contributions.
snappel 04-05-2008, 04:31 PM Just a quick sidenote... really, a private members area is pointless if there's no way of validating the membership. Personally I'd never organise a meet where anybody with the means to register on this forum (so, pretty much anyone) could see what was going on.
The best arrangement (in my opinion) would be a members' area with restricted access. Start with admin, mods and friends known/trusted to you (Kev) personally, and vote for the inviting in of members who are known to be trustworthy.
Then people might feel more relaxed organising things on the board rather than via email/PM.
quincyg 04-05-2008, 04:38 PM I try and get on with everybody, I don't like confrontation and all this has made me feel uncomfortable.
I'm hoping that everything is settling down again now. :PDT_Aliboronz_11:
shytalk 04-05-2008, 05:02 PM quncyg.
Don't get upset, your contributions are too good to lose.:handclap::PDT_Aliboronz_11:
Ernie 04-05-2008, 05:02 PM :PDT_Aliboronz_24:Kev I know I dont do very much on this site, I`m not much of a writer but I enjoy most of what nearly everyone puts in it. Backstabbing is not in me either, you do, do a lot of work and I for one appreciate it, keep up the good work, Ernie.
shytalk 04-05-2008, 05:03 PM :PDT_Aliboronz_24:Kev I know I dont do very much on this site, I`m not much of a writer but I enjoy most of what nearly everyone puts in it. Backstabbing is not in me either, you do, do a lot of work and I for one appreciate it, keep up the good work, Ernie.
What Ernie said.:handclap:Me too.
kevin 04-05-2008, 05:32 PM I'm a member of a restaurant review forum in Birmingham. It occasionally gets a bit heated and two members in particular can be rather unpleasant.
However, we have had about 8 social events - few drinks then a meal in a restaurant. Never less than 8 or 9 members and as many as 14 or 15 at times.
Everybody is welcome to attend but a nucleus of about 25 members have been involved so far.
One of the benefits is that once you've met people you have a far greater understanding of their style of posts - and less likely to take offence when none was meant but a post was badly worded.
It does seem that somebody has been unneccessarily insulting and I fully understand Kev's position and support him making things public. Otherwise, there'd have been ongoing guesses and conspiracy theories about what actually happened.
Because of where I live I'm never likely to attend a social event, but I'd argue strongly that they should go ahead. You'd be surprised at how you might actually get to like people face-to-face when you've initially had a negative opinion online.
If they do go ahead - everybody welcome is the only way to go.
Cheers for the advise, support and wise words all. It can only make this place better than it already is.
lottie 04-05-2008, 06:41 PM I agree wiyh Quincyg, it is horrible all this, i too left a forum because of this type of hassle. If i want to say anything, i do, BUT if i had aproblem i would do it privately, not publicly, i would NOT answer here if i felt uncomfortable. Also ZAPPA :PDT_Xtremez_12: i would be careful if i was you, us women are watching :ninja: do you want me to tell your secrets :unibrow:
quincyg 04-05-2008, 07:11 PM Can we have some sort of normality back on here please??
I always thourght this forum was meant to represent all the great things our city and region have going for themselves...all this squabbling isn't productive, nor is it beneficial to anyone.
Forums are meant to be a place where you sit down with a cuppa and chat with like minded people...we dont seem to be doing this lately.
hear hear young man
quncyg.
Don't get upset, your contributions are too good to lose.:handclap::PDT_Aliboronz_11:
thank you. I don't want to leave here and I don't want to get embroiled in owt unpleasant.
I agree wiyh Quincyg, it is horrible all this, i too left a forum because of this type of hassle. If i want to say anything, i do, BUT if i had aproblem i would do it privately, not publicly, i would NOT answer here if i felt uncomfortable. Also ZAPPA :PDT_Xtremez_12: i would be careful if i was you, us women are watching :ninja: do you want me to tell your secrets :unibrow:
Zapps has secrets? surely he's not a closet fan of...http://www.chicagogigs.com/images/content/daniel-o-donnell_daniel-odonnell__tickets_5047909.jpg
jon_hall 04-05-2008, 08:24 PM I miss all the fun.
John(Zappa) 04-05-2008, 08:48 PM hear hear young man
thank you. I don't want to leave here and I don't want to get embroiled in owt unpleasant.
Zapps has secrets? surely he's not a closet fan of...http://www.chicagogigs.com/images/content/daniel-o-donnell_daniel-odonnell__tickets_5047909.jpg
As much as a fan as I am the Beatles!!:PDT10
shytalk 04-05-2008, 10:29 PM O.K. folks, I have come up with a solution. The next meeting will be where I live,
we can meet on the courthouse steps. I will volunteer to organise it and make bacon butties for lunch. No alcohol though I live in a 'dry' area surrounded by 5 counties that don't allow the sale of alcohol. :handclap:
:PDT_Aliboronz_24:<---lemonade
gorgeous 04-05-2008, 10:45 PM :PDT_Aliboronz_24:Kev I know I dont do very much on this site, I`m not much of a writer but I enjoy most of what nearly everyone puts in it. Backstabbing is not in me either, you do, do a lot of work and I for one appreciate it, keep up the good work, Ernie.
I totally agree with Ernie , Keep up the good work Kev ,
Love Karen
the likes of Ged's jokes ( awful ):PDT10.
Wow again... one day old and 3 pages long already - like Rik Wallers first feed sheet in the maternity hospital.
Go shovel some sand you hmtmaj(private joke)
and it's not Zaps fault he doesn't appreciate good music but....
ets look at this objectively.
I've seen some sites where downright bullying and fight meets are arranged and the main posters there say that it's no place for visitors to be seeing this as the norm for Liverpool people, and they're right.
This forum is by some way the best as there are image threads for all sorts of different subjects and there are many passionate posters with factual information on their chosen subject and hopefull long may that continue and greatful thanks to Kev for allowing us the platform to air those discussions even if it includes this one.
brian daley 04-05-2008, 11:27 PM May I join with Ernie in saying,this is a wonderful site, Kev you are a hard grafter and run a tight ship. Rest assured that you have my,and I am sure the majority of the posters ,support. It took me a long time to find this site and I would be gutted to think it could fold on the strength of a few over inflated egos. Lindy Lou, Ged, Shy, Zap and all you other posters, you're family now,and families sometimes fall out ,but not for long.
Cheers,
BrianD
CHRISMIZ 04-06-2008, 08:44 AM Hi everyone, like Ernie I don't post very much but I feel I must reply here. This is a great site, i really enjoy logging on and browsing, I don't feel under any pressure to have to post, long may this site carry on. Well done Kev and congratulations :handclap:
quincyg 04-06-2008, 11:21 AM I know I'm new and don't know people on here that well, but I think we need to draw a line under this. it's caused a lot of ill feeling and upset.
I've only personally met the members on the meet last week and that day I got on with everyone great. In fact Phil and I carried on walking about for another hour and I learned a bit more about the area that I didn't know. :PDT11
So I'm hoping now that after everyone's said their piece, which they are free to do, that peace can break out. Lets get back to posting pics of our great city and sharing the knowledge that so many offer us not so bright lights here.
:hug::hug:
My email server down at the mo, so I'm going to get my boiled eggs and have a look at a few more of the old old threads (I'm still catching up there's so many).
I've only personally met the members on the meet last week and that day I got on with everyone great. In fact Phil and I carried on walking about for another hour and I learned a bit more about the area that I didn't know. :PDT11
That's whats great about meeting people too, excellent. I've been on two meet ups and they have all gone great, Phil was at one of them and I've met him before, I always hoped that I came across ok, friendly etc.....
lottie 04-06-2008, 04:15 PM As i previously said, i left another forum due to arguments. If the people concerened can't speak privately then they should just put a stop to it. I myself can't be bothered with it. I feel i have to get involved (as others do). I am not going to stay on this forum if this continues. It is becoming tit for tat and childish. If the people you know are causing to many problems Kev, ban them, that is the easiest solution, even short term. Otherwise you will have some members, like me, leaving. This is a great forum, but not at the moment.
I'm happy to report, as things stand, Phil and I have sorted things out and we won't speak of this again, its all water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned, cheers for the PM Phil.
As a result, mine and phils messages (plus replies) have been removed.
I've closed the thread as I believe its run its course. The initial issue will remain plus messages of support as I believe they may serve as a warning in the future to individuals who seek to use the forum with no consideration for others and with their own agendas.
Thanks again for your support during this bumpy period.
Kev
:PDT11
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