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quincyg
02-27-2008, 07:55 PM
not sure what to put this under really.

we have a couple of railway bridges around the corner and this marker is next to the huge brick arch one

assuming it to be Lancashire Yorkshire Railway.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1278.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1279.jpg

mike delamar
02-28-2008, 04:48 AM
yeah they are, well found and spotted,

but where exactly are they?

Mike

quincyg
02-28-2008, 12:01 PM
yeah they are, well found and spotted,

but where exactly are they?

Mike

ah sorry, bottom of Akenside St/Hornby Boulevard/Violet Rd junction Bootle
I'll take some pics of the bridges and one showing the marker and it's proximity to the bridge.

quincyg
02-28-2008, 06:18 PM
as promised the railway bridges

Akenside St looking towards Violet Rd
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1351.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1352.jpg

junction of Hornby Blvd and Violet Rd looking back up Akenside.
the marker is next to the box under the shrubbery
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1353.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1355.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1354.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1356.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1358.jpg

just along the path at the side of the railway are remants of I think a signal box
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1172.jpg
view towards the bridges from Seaforth station
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1175.jpg

mike delamar
02-28-2008, 08:38 PM
great pics,


dont think the rubble was a signal box, but the old line which has been demolished from north mersey branch junction to North mersey goods and the Overhead railway,

the signal box and the line mentioned can be seen in this pic,

http://www.photobydjnorton.com/RailwayPictures/LOR/LORTrainSeaforthLitherlandStn.jpg

once the bridge was demolished, it revealed the other line behind it, the one in your pic from seaforth and litherland station

Mike

mike delamar
02-28-2008, 08:48 PM
just to add, if the rubble is were the red arrow is, itll be the remains of the old line, demolished in the 70s
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z205/lamdelz/seaforth.jpg

another pic here

http://philhughesaintreeandbootlerailphotos.fotopic.net/p47732735.html,

also, the southport-liverpool bridge that has been removed when the line was reduced from 4 lines to 2 is interesting the way theyve cut it with an acetalene torch and left a bit in, usually they just knock the bricks away and lift it out.

Mike


Mike

quincyg
02-28-2008, 10:15 PM
thanks for those b/w pics.
the straight line leading to the curve on the pic runs along the bottom of our garden. rubble on the right looking at that pic .
our part of the estate was built on an old builders yard which was up against the embankment. when travelling on the train if you look towards the docks you can see the line of the old houses and where the track would have run.
If I can muster some energy I'll try and get some pics looking down towards where Seaforth Sands station was. I've got an aerial pic of the area from the 40's somewhere plus a recent one to compare.

I'll have a rummage through my files...
the rubble is one of old brick supports.
right, I'm not very techy so this will have to do
taken in 1930's. red blob is near enough where my house is now
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/oldaerial1.jpg

close up showing the brick support that the rubble is from
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/bridgesupp.jpg

recent aerial view. green arrow is old builders yard. red lines roughly where rail lines ran. top of pic where red line on left stops is Seaforth & Litherland Station
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/newmap-1.jpg

Ged
02-29-2008, 11:26 AM
I think that big factory in the 1st old b&w pic is the old Bryant & May?

quincyg
02-29-2008, 11:41 AM
I think that big factory in the 1st old b&w pic is the old Bryant & May?

yes it is. it's flats now. there's a large match there too. will get a photo and post it up later.

mikewturner
03-02-2008, 01:29 PM
[QUOTE=quincyg;114922]not sure what to put this under really.

we have a couple of railway bridges around the corner and this marker is next to the huge brick arch one

assuming it to be Lancashire Yorkshire Railway.
/QUOTE]

Hi

These are boundary markers and odd ones can still be found around the city. There are several in the pavement close to the old Sefton Park station on Smithdown Road marking 'LNWR Boundary'.

Mike

quincyg
03-02-2008, 01:54 PM
[QUOTE=quincyg;114922]not sure what to put this under really.

we have a couple of railway bridges around the corner and this marker is next to the huge brick arch one

assuming it to be Lancashire Yorkshire Railway.
/QUOTE]

Hi

These are boundary markers and odd ones can still be found around the city. There are several in the pavement close to the old Sefton Park station on Smithdown Road marking 'LNWR Boundary'.

Mike

excellent info thanks. I'll put on my list of things to photograph when I'm over Wavertree way through the week.

mikewturner
03-02-2008, 02:27 PM
excellent info thanks. I'll put on my list of things to photograph when I'm over Wavertree way through the week.

From memory the best is in the carpark area of the clothing supplier near the railway fence line. Another 2 (I think) in the pavement outside/near the old station building which is now a stove enamellers. These last ones are very worn and just look like semicircular iron discs set in to the pavement. The first one I mentioned can be clearly read.

Mike

quincyg
03-02-2008, 04:14 PM
From memory the best is in the carpark area of the clothing supplier near the railway fence line. Another 2 (I think) in the pavement outside/near the old station building which is now a stove enamellers. These last ones are very worn and just look like semicircular iron discs set in to the pavement. The first one I mentioned can be clearly read.

Mike

brilliant, thank you. :PDT11
I've got to wait in for washing machine repairman tomoz, so it'll probably be tuesday when I get over that way.

quincyg
03-04-2008, 11:23 PM
different railway company but who cares

could only find 1 semi circular one
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1485.jpg

but then for some reason I felt compelled to go over to the Mystery and BINGO!
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1480.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1481.jpg

mikewturner
03-05-2008, 07:27 PM
different railway company but who cares

could only find 1 semi circular one
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1485.jpg

but then for some reason I felt compelled to go over to the Mystery and BINGO!
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1480.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1481.jpg


Glad you found them! There are (were) 2 or 3 along the fence line in the Mystery.

Mike

quincyg
03-19-2008, 09:59 PM
finally managed to clamber up the embankment today of where the other LYR line ran.

our house was built on the site of the original embankment.

at the bottom of the fence you can just make out the remains of one of the bridge bases
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture2029.jpg

looking towards the direction of the old Seaforth Sands Station
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture2027.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture2028.jpg

the line that runs over the big brick arch bridge is just away to my left