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Kev
01-25-2006, 04:29 PM
A £19M landing stage for cruise tourists to disembark in Liverpool city centre will finally get the go-ahead.

Senior council sources say work on the cruise liner terminal at Princes Dock, allowing world class vessels to join in the Capital of Culture celebrations, will begin "within weeks".

The project, along with Kings Dock and the Fourth Grace, was one of the key council pledges for the successful culture bid.

more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16625556%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=%2dpound%2d19m%2dcruise%2dterminal%2dgo %2dahead-name_page.html)

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icliverpool/sep2005/6/2/000B8F73-DFF7-1316-9D280C02AC1BF824.jpg

Kev
01-26-2006, 08:22 AM
WORK will start on Liverpool's £19m cruise line facility this April.

The start of construction follows months of delay resulting from prolonged negotiations between the city council and port operator Peel Holdings.

But yesterday the council and Peel issued a joint statement saying a deal had now been reached resolving all outstanding issues.

It means the terminal should be ready in time for the launch and naming ceremony of the Queen Victoria, a Cunard cruise ship under construction in Italy.

Cunard's owner, Miami-based Carnival group, had threatened to look elsewhere for a venue to launch its new vessel if a deal was not agreed before the end of this month. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16628732%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=cruise%2dships%2ddeal%2dfor%2dport-name_page.html)

Scousemouse
01-26-2006, 05:33 PM
WORK will start on Liverpool's £19m cruise line facility this April.
Liverpool's answer to Manchester's Canal Street? :lol:

Kev
02-17-2006, 08:06 AM
LIVERPOOL is to host a spectacular day-long party on the Mersey to celebrate the 40th birthday of one of the world's great liners, the Queen Elizabeth 2. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16713407%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=qe2%2dto%2dopen%2dcity%2ds%2dnew%2dcrui se%2dliner%2dterminal-name_page.html)

artconley
04-16-2006, 05:53 PM
I have heard that the pierhead will soon be opening to Cruise ships. Any truth to that rumour?

bobbymac
04-16-2006, 06:34 PM
I dunno, the landing stage sank a couple of weeks ago.:Colorz_Grey_PDT_24:

Kev
04-16-2006, 07:07 PM
These links may help:

Cruise ships deal for port (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16628732%26method=full%26siteid=50061-name_page.html)
Jan 26 2006
WORK will start on Liverpool's £19m cruise line facility this April.

£19m cruise terminal go-ahead (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16625556%26method=full%26siteid=50061-name_page.html)
Jan 25 2006
A £19M landing stage for cruise tourists to disembark in Liverpool city centre will finally get ...

A.D.Williams
04-17-2006, 12:39 PM
I have heard that the pierhead will soon be opening to Cruise ships. Any truth to that rumour?

Hope these are of interest, Art?

Pier Head landing stage sinks! (http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/pierhead/landing/landing.html)

A.D.Williams
04-27-2006, 01:35 PM
A smallish 7mb video of the Pier Head, Art.

http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/video/spier020306.wmv

Kev
04-27-2006, 03:35 PM
:celb (23): :PDT_Piratz_26:

julia
04-27-2006, 06:26 PM
Well, that's going to be a bear to walk up

Paul D
06-30-2006, 02:54 PM
Public notices in the Daily Post.

Brunswick St. Canada Boulevard, St. Nicholas Place and Water St. Temporary suspension of prohibition of driving, one-way traffic, loading and un-loading in these streets.

The order comes into operation Sat 1st July 2006 until Sunday 1st July 2007 or lesser time if works are completed earlier. This order is required to safely enable the construction of the cruise liner facility.:celb (23):

Waterways
06-30-2006, 08:09 PM
WORK will start on Liverpool's £19m cruise line facility this April.

The start of construction follows months of delay resulting from prolonged negotiations between the city council and port operator Peel Holdings.

But yesterday the council and Peel issued a joint statement saying a deal had now been reached resolving all outstanding issues.

It means the terminal should be ready in time for the launch and naming ceremony of the Queen Victoria, a Cunard cruise ship under construction in Italy.

Launch? At Liverpool? When it was built in Italy?

Sloyne
07-05-2006, 02:17 AM
Launch? At Liverpool? When it was built in Italy?It will be launched into the Mediteranean Sea and named at the Landing Stage, Liverpool.

Kev
11-20-2006, 05:24 PM
LIVERPOOL'S new cruise liner terminal is on target to be completed in time to welcome the Queen Elizabeth 2 next year.

Liverpool's Culture Company will today begin searching for contractors to run the terminal at the Pier Head after it is completed in June.

The £19m development will be officially launched when the QE2 cruises into the city for a spectacular day-long party on the Mersey for its 40th birthday celebrations on September 21.

Liverpool council officially gave the Culture Company authorisation to begin its search for terminal operators at a meeting of the Executive Board on Friday.

A review of the operators that have expressed an interest in bidding for the contract will take place next month. The council's executive member for special initiatives, Cllr Mike Storey, said last night: "Conducting the search for operators of the cruise liner is another part of the jigsaw.

"The cruise liner terminal will be a huge asset to Liverpool. The city grew because of its river and we have a world heritage site on the waterfront, yet at the moment we do not have the infrastructure for people to see it.

"It is fantastic that the terminal is still on target to be completed by next summer and in time for 2008."

The new terminal at Princes Dock will allow the biggest and best cruise ships to berth in Liverpool. The 250m extension of the landing stage and the development of a link span bridge for vehicles will make it possible for Liverpool to be a major cruise destination.

The impact on tourism is set to be huge, with around 25 ships a year making Liverpool a port of call, and estimates of around 100,000 extra visitors expected between its launch and 2010.

Tens of thousands of people are expected to flock to the waterfront on next year to take part in the spectacular QE2 event.

The visit by the world-famous liner will mark the opening ceremony for the new cruise liner terminal at the Pier Head.

Work on the £18m floating landing stage, which was planned to be up and running this year, will begin in April, with most of the work carried out at Cammell Laird.

It is hoped it will make the port even busier with cruise companies already vying to bring their floating palaces to the city.

Earlier this year, clients of the Holland America line voted Liverpool among the top 10 ports of call out of 300 destinations.

jessicashaughnessy @dailypost.co.uk

woody
03-19-2007, 07:33 PM
Access road ,built in the "CUT" of the old floating roadway, will have linkspan bridge at far end leading down onto cruise liner stage, photo taken 3-3-07

httphttp://img116.imageshack.us/img116/3523/20070303shotsfirst0033vt5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)://

Kev
03-22-2007, 12:20 PM
LIVERPOOL’S new £19m cruise liner landing stage is to be floated into place in a matter of weeks. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_headline=%2D19m-cruise-liner-stage-to-be-ready-in-weeks%26method=full%26objectid=18790756%26siteid=5 0061-name_page.html)

A.D.W
03-22-2007, 07:36 PM
LIVERPOOL’S new £19m cruise liner landing stage is to be floated into place in a matter of weeks. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_headline=%2D19m-cruise-liner-stage-to-be-ready-in-weeks%26method=full%26objectid=18790756%26siteid=5 0061-name_page.html)


Any news when the old one will be lifted from the sea bed and removed, Kev?

:)

scouserdave
03-22-2007, 09:24 PM
Any news when the old one will be lifted from the sea bed and removed, Kev?

:)
You want to get that cough checked out Dave:unibrow:

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/cough.jpg

A.D.W
03-22-2007, 09:41 PM
Fine picture, young Dave. Any more of the Pier Head area?

:)

Sloyne
03-24-2007, 03:24 PM
I a recent Echo article it was said that the new landing stage has yet to be named. Any suggestions?

I would call it 'The Liverpool Ocean Cruise Terminal', even though it is only a berthing facility. There have been suggestions of naming it for Samuel Cunard. I don't think old Sam is to well known outside of Liverpool, Southampton or Halifax, NS. Canada and even in Liverpool and Southampton one would be hard pressed to find anyone, born after 1960, who would know who Samuel Cunard was.

Another name I would suggest is 'The Princess Dianna Cruise Pier'. I'm not a royalist but she is very well known, and popular, beyond the United Kingdom.

Kev
03-24-2007, 03:44 PM
I'll have to have think

Gnomie
03-24-2007, 05:04 PM
Beatle Buoy

Berth of The Beatles.

Titanic

L.H.T.O.D.S (lets hope this one dont sink)

The Gateway to the world.


really though whats wrong with " Pier Head Ferry Terminal "

theninesisters
03-24-2007, 05:05 PM
[QUOTE=Sloyne;46822]I a recent Echo article it was said that the new landing stage has yet to be named. Any suggestions?

QUOTE]

How about 'Bridge over troubled water' :PDT11

Kev
03-24-2007, 05:10 PM
really though whats wrong with " Pier Head Ferry Terminal "

That is so working class

Gnomie
03-24-2007, 05:11 PM
Kev im sending you some Lillies

Gnomie
03-24-2007, 05:13 PM
There is only one person to name it after, not Lady Di. but a very famous world wide known Scouser.

GEORGE HARRISON.

John got an Airport so c`mon Liverpool honour our George.

Or dont you care about him.

Kev
03-24-2007, 05:14 PM
:PDT_Xtremez_42:

Could call it the Landing Stage to Liverpool Life but then they'd close that straight away.

theninesisters
03-24-2007, 05:16 PM
But why the Beatles on everything though?

We've hundreds of famous scousers - why not their names on something. :)

Kev
03-24-2007, 05:18 PM
Yer, Like Kerry Katona, that famous scally scouse one from Atomic Kitten

Gnomie
03-24-2007, 05:21 PM
George has nothing named after him. John has. its not fair.

or we could call it This way to Ireland.

theninesisters
03-24-2007, 05:22 PM
Yer, Like Kerry Katona, that famous scally scouse one from Atomic Kitten


She's actually from Warrington though Kev :PDT11

Kev
03-24-2007, 05:31 PM
She's actually from Warrington though Kev :PDT11

lol, I know - I've posted on this many times, when Atomic Kitten were originally formed, they appeared on Richard and Judy, Kerry Katona announced to the public that Atomic Kitten were "Pure Scally Scouse", in that accent of hers, it made me laugh at the time as the other two liverpool ladies have proved they are much more talented than most, Kerry wasn't and neither was that other one that replaced her.

ChrisGeorge
03-24-2007, 05:42 PM
George has nothing named after him. John has. its not fair.

or we could call it This way to Ireland.

George has Harrison Drive named after him. . . Well not really but it might not be a bad idea to rename the road "George Harrison Drive." :)

Chris

Gnomie
03-24-2007, 06:03 PM
Yes they all have a road. John also has an Airport. i think George and Ringo are treated like second class Beatles by our city council. I dont think they care for George at all. It would be ideal to name it after George but i doubt he would even get a bus stop or a bin.

MarkA
03-24-2007, 06:04 PM
Something to pay tribute to the 200th anniversary of the abolition of slavery. Might be considered controversial but since the landing stage will be a small floating island - Gorée Landing Stage / Terminal / along those lines.

theninesisters
03-24-2007, 06:07 PM
But why the slave trade? Hardly any slaves actually came in to Liverpool.

Libertarian
03-24-2007, 06:13 PM
But why the slave trade? Hardly any slaves actually came in to Liverpool.

They should call it the politically correct landing stage.

MarkA
03-24-2007, 06:14 PM
I doubt that most places around the world that choose to remember the slave trade and abolition of it saw even one slave. It doesn't stop them paying their respects though.

Libertarian
03-24-2007, 06:20 PM
I doubt that most places around the world that choose to remember the slave trade and abolition of it saw even one slave. It doesn't stop them paying their respects though.

Personally I think the UK government should now apologise for the criminalisation of Homosexuality so we could call it the John Inman landing stage. The government should apologise for Imperailsm so we could call it the Gandhi landing stage. The government should apologise for the Hundred Years War so we could call it the Joan of Arc landing stage.

MarkA
03-24-2007, 06:31 PM
I don't know where you're coming from on that. I said respects not apologise. One tip...think before engaging the fingers on the keyboard! Your little rant mentions nothing at all to do with the City of Liverpool. Change of username to 'Tangent' might suit you more :rolleyes:

chippie
03-24-2007, 07:14 PM
The Bon Voyage, Dry Land Ends Here, The Promised Stage, The Atlas(t), Pier Head Pavillion, Mersey Seaway, :disgust:

Libertarian
03-24-2007, 07:15 PM
The chip on shoulder landing stage

Gnomie
03-24-2007, 07:22 PM
hoody harbour

A.D.W
03-24-2007, 09:24 PM
Personally I think the UK government should now apologise for the criminalisation of Homosexuality so we could call it the John Inman landing stage. The government should apologise for Imperailsm so we could call it the Gandhi landing stage. The government should apologise for the Hundred Years War so we could call it the Joan of Arc landing stage.

They have decriminalised homosexuality? Oh well I suppose we live in more enlightened times these days.

:)

Libertarian
03-24-2007, 09:26 PM
They have decriminalised homosexuality? Oh well I suppose we live in more enlightened times these days.

:)

Well I'm glad you have finally admitted it AD

Howie
03-24-2007, 11:11 PM
really though whats wrong with " Pier Head Ferry Terminal "
Pier Head Ferry Terminal gets my vote. Let's be unfashionable and go back to calling things what they are. (And the government should apologise for calling themselves a Labour Party).

Sloyne
03-25-2007, 03:25 AM
whats wrong with " Pier Head Ferry Terminal " Maybe because it's not a "Ferry Terminal" it is a berth for cruise liners and, it's only attached to "Pier Head", it is a floating "pier". Good enough reasons I guess.:)

Sloyne
03-25-2007, 03:30 AM
The chip on shoulder landing stageI think this aspect of Scousism is as well known, worldwide, as is the Beatles.

ChrisGeorge
03-25-2007, 04:10 AM
Hi all

Frankly I think there is enough acknowledgement of Liverpool's connection to slavery. The Maritime Museum and the new museum at the Pier Head will make visitors aware enough of that. The new landing stage needs to have either a functional title or something that reflects the history of Liverpool as a port. The use of the Cunard name is not a bad suggestion and I don't find the name obscure at all, although Cunard-White Star might be better, considering that both Cunard and White Star ships were historically probably the best known vessels to sail from Liverpool in the heyday of the liners.

Chris

Sloyne
03-25-2007, 02:07 PM
Cunard-White Star might be betterHowever, Cunard is still a marketing brand name and, indeed, it will be a cruise ship belonging to that company, the Queen Elizabeth 2, that will officiall open the new stage.

Libertarian
03-25-2007, 03:29 PM
However, Cunard is still a marketing brand name and, indeed, it will be a cruise ship belonging to that company, the Queen Elizabeth 2, that will officiall open the new stage.

How about the Queen Elizabeth 2nd Landing stage?

snappel
03-25-2007, 03:33 PM
This is easy. Big Bertha. What else would possibly do?

Steven
03-25-2007, 03:48 PM
How about * The Lanny* that's what we used to call it.

Kolchak
03-25-2007, 04:57 PM
'King Richard III'

'The Floater'

But seriously, I think something along the lines of the Cunard/White Star suggestions would be very apt.

Sloyne
03-25-2007, 05:36 PM
I think something along the lines of the Cunard/White Star suggestions would be very apt. But, and as pointed out earlier, Cunard White Star is a branded private operating company registerd to the owners of Carnival Cruise Line, of which Cunard White Star is a wholy owned subsidiary.

Most cruise ship piers, that I have visited, are named for the port in which they are situated. A few, mostly American, name them for a local dignity which, to my knowledge, are usually obscure to all but locals.

PS: I believe Carnival no longer use the "White Star" part of the brand.

phredd
03-25-2007, 06:23 PM
OK = how about >>>

The Dereck Hatton Disembarkation Stage
Phredd

snappel
03-25-2007, 08:08 PM
Who is this Mr Hatton?

Libertarian
03-25-2007, 08:10 PM
Who is this Mr Hatton?

A man who bankrupt a great city and gave it a bad name internationally.

Howie
03-25-2007, 10:25 PM
Might be more appropriate to honour the Liverpool dockers in the name for their valiant struggle against casualisation and deregulation and the part they played in the growth of the international dockers movement.

Sloyne
03-26-2007, 04:10 AM
A man who bankrupt a great city and gave it a bad name internationally.I can't speak for Africa, Asia, South America or the antipodes but, I don't know of anyone in North America, without a Liverpool connection, who know's of Derek Hatton.

Didn't the police charge him with theft of a Rolex watch and didn't the court exonerate him, but only after the original owner declared that he gave Hatton the watch? Also, is it not true that the Thatcher government used all their resources to try and find some crime to charge this man with? And didn't they, Thatchers government, fail in this quest? Now, to my mind and to most reasonable people this would indicate the mans innocence, others less generous or with some other political agenda or dishonest motive themselves would say otherwise. IMHO.:rolleyes:

john
03-26-2007, 08:02 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Hatton

Sloyne
03-26-2007, 01:21 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Hatton Thanks John, I could see nothing, indicated in that biography,of a criminal nature. I think I would agree with my late mother when she said that the real damage done to Liverpool was not done by the militants or Derek Hatton but by the ultra right wing political extreemist, vindictive prime minister of the day, Maggie Thatcher.

snappel
03-26-2007, 01:28 PM
Personally I think it'd be more fitting to name it after a Liverpudlian industrialist...

Howie
03-26-2007, 01:55 PM
Who is this Mr Hatton?

See e.g. http://www.myspace.com/liverpool47

Check out the videos such as http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1178374875

Sloyne
03-26-2007, 02:10 PM
Personally I think it'd be more fitting to name it after a Liverpudlian industrialist...That would eliminate Samuel Cunard, he being a Canadian from Halifax in the province of Nova Scotia. Maybe John Swire of HSBC and Cathay Pacific, but even here we have a problem because John Swire was also born in Halifax, this time the Yorkshire variety. Maybe one of the Holt brothers Alfred or John of Blue Funnel who, fortunately, were both born in Liverpool. Perhaps Liverpool could take a leaf out of the mundane Manchester book, this is what they, Manchester, did with the naming of their concert hall, after an industrialist person who built canals instead of after the very talented and most succesful musical director in that orchestra's (Halle) history, Sir John Barbarolli.

Really though, it won't matter what it's called to the vast majority of cruisers using the facility, they, more than likely, will be interested in the Beatles, cultural sites and shopping, but not neccessarily in that order.:)

Ged
03-26-2007, 02:31 PM
"OCEAN GATEWAY"

Sloyne
03-26-2007, 02:33 PM
See e.g. http://www.myspace.com/liverpool47

Check out the videos such as http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1178374875 Thanks Howie, the video clip certainly show just how few Liverpool citizens supported the 47. I mean only filling Castle Street to Derby Square, Dale Street to beyond Moorfields and Water Street to the Strand.

I have been able to learn quite a lot about that period in Liverpool's political history, so much so that when I now see submissions from the extreemist right-wing Thatcherites and/or their fellow travellers, I am able to refute their lies with facts.

Thanks again.

Ged
03-26-2007, 02:33 PM
Imagine the Mancs or whoever hearing on the 6 o'clock news that the first liner is docking at Liverpool's Ocean Gateway - pure class.

I wouldn't name it after an individual, we've got the tunnels after royalty and certainly not Lady Di as suggested, what's she got to do with anything.

Sloyne
03-26-2007, 02:40 PM
Imagine the Mancs or whoever hearing on the 6 o'clock news that the first liner is docking at Liverpool's Ocean Gateway - pure class.Yep, it would certainly spoil a few peoples day up the motorway. However, don't you think Granada and BBC would either ignore the event or just report that a "boat visited the Mersey for the day"?

phredd
03-26-2007, 02:51 PM
"OCEAN GATEWAY"

Ged = nice one. That is a name I could live with.

In saying that I think to most 'pudlians' it will always be known as the Pier Head.

Phredd

Sloyne
03-26-2007, 03:40 PM
In saying that I think to most 'pudlians' it will always be known as the Pier Head. Actually Phredd, it has never been known as Pier Head. Pier Head is at the top of the bridges that connect the 'Princes and Georges Landing Stages' to the land. Pier Head being that area between the river and the "Three Graces". The name sez it all.:)

Howie
03-26-2007, 03:40 PM
Luv it! - brings back all those memories of the 1933 film by the Merseyside Workers' Film Society: 'Liverpool: Gateway of Empire' or more recently Tony Lane's 1987 book of the same title, (of which I understand there is currently an updated version of titled 'Liverpool: City of the Sea'). Anyway I like 'Gateway' - it draws on our history! :)

Sloyne
03-26-2007, 03:44 PM
Luv it! - brings back all those memories of the 1933 film by the Merseyside Workers' Film Society: 'Liverpool: Gateway of Empire' But, alas, under Maggie Thatcher it became, for awhile, the "Doorway to despair".:disgust:

Howie
03-26-2007, 03:49 PM
The original film was about inequality contrasting the prosperity with the unemployment and workers' demos - something with have managed to maintain as currently the city with the greatest inequalities in the UK.

Paul D
03-26-2007, 03:49 PM
Imagine the Mancs or whoever hearing on the 6 o'clock news that the first liner is docking at Liverpool's Ocean Gateway - pure class.

I wouldn't name it after an individual, we've got the tunnels after royalty and certainly not Lady Di as suggested, what's she got to do with anything.

That sold it for me but they probably wont mention it.:)

The New World Gateway,leave me alone I'm trying aren't I.:002: I just had to use this snazzy emoticon.:unibrow:

lindylou
03-26-2007, 03:52 PM
Thanks Howie, the video clip certainly show just how few Liverpool citizens supported the 47. I mean only filling Castle Street to Derby Square, Dale Street to beyond Moorfields and Water Street to the Strand.


Thanks again.


I can only remember people hating Derek Hatton and his crew. I never knew anyone who supported them.

Sloyne
03-26-2007, 04:00 PM
I can only remember people hating Derek Hatton and his crew. I never knew anyone who supported them.Then the video clip is a must for you, unless that is, you would prefer to keep your erronious pre-conceived impressions.:)

PS: I wonder just who voted them in, even after Thatcher negated the democratic will of the majority Liverpools electorate?

phredd
03-26-2007, 04:01 PM
Actually Phredd, it has never been known as Pier Head. Pier Head is at the top of the bridges that connect the 'Princes and Georges Landing Stages' to the land. Pier Head being that area between the river and the "Three Graces". The name sez it all.:)

Sloyne Hi

I did know that :) but as kids in the 40,s we did not say 'we are going to the landing stage'. It was always the Pier Head to us and to the millions who graced New Brighton every week end.
Yep true though the name does say it all

Cheers Fred (NSTS Gravesend 1956).

Ged
03-26-2007, 04:01 PM
As an aside, we could possibly start a thread on the Hatton v Thatcher years (though, the leader was actually Hamilton) and give the pros and cons (no pun intended) as to what people now think really went on.

Sloyne
03-26-2007, 04:02 PM
NSTS Gravesend 1956).[/SIZE][/INDENT][/COLOR]Catering or Deck?

john
03-26-2007, 04:09 PM
I can only remember people hating Derek Hatton and his crew. I never knew anyone who supported them.

Lindylou, the labour party were voted into power by the people of Liverpool, have a look at the video submitted by Howie.

john
03-26-2007, 04:10 PM
Liverpool Gateway
Ocean Gateway

Ged
03-26-2007, 04:14 PM
Liverpool Ocean Gateway then - a ring to it like Liverpool John Lennon Airport.

Something telling the world, not just Manchester/Brum/Leeds who all think they're bigger and better than us that it's Liverpool's and you've gotta mention the name - it's extravagant - something those land-locked places could only dream about.

Gnomie
03-26-2007, 04:18 PM
Liverpool George Harrison Ocean Gateway

lindylou
03-26-2007, 04:19 PM
Lindylou, the labour party were voted into power by the people of Liverpool, have a look at the video submitted by Howie.

I don't have enough interest in Politics to be bothered looking.

I was just stating that I never knew anyone who supported them.

I can only recall people slating Hatton and his crew.

Sloyne
03-26-2007, 04:42 PM
I don't have enough interest in Politics to be bothered looking.
I was just stating that I never knew anyone who supported them.
I can only recall people slating Hatton and his crew.A very disingenuous reply for sure. If you have, as you state, little interest in politics why comment at all? Replying, as you have to a political post, takes far more effort to type and post than does a mouse click on the link that would add to your knowledge of the person and period discussed. Like I said lindylou, a very disingenuous reply, IMHO.

lindylou
03-26-2007, 04:54 PM
I never normally reply to political discussions - you won't find much from me in the politics thread.

I was just commenting that they were not popular with everybody, not every Liverpudlian voted for them - I can remember a lot of people who were against.

Sloyne
03-26-2007, 05:00 PM
I never normally reply to political discussions - you won't find much from me in the politics thread.That is why your reply to this one reveals more than you would probably wish about you own political bias.:) But thanks for posting anyway.

Cheers lindy.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

phredd
03-26-2007, 05:07 PM
Catering or Deck?

Catering = ended up Second Cook & Baker.
Mostly on tankers (Athel Line & Esso)

Phredd

Gerard
03-26-2007, 05:19 PM
Sloyne Hi

I did know that :) but as kids in the 40,s we did not say 'we are going to the landing stage'. It was always the Pier Head to us and to the millions who graced New Brighton every week end.
Yep true though the name does say it all

Cheers Fred (NSTS Gravesend 1956).

New Brighton Dvd...£7....Bargain.

Was the Pier Head to us bin lids as well..still is.

Gnomie
03-26-2007, 05:22 PM
As they have nicked his park name it after Noel Godfrey Chavasse

Gerard
03-26-2007, 05:23 PM
Or with 3 other Liverpool titles on 1 Dvd..£15.
4 !!....ON 1 DVD FOR £15...ABOUT OLD LIVERPOOL...........NOW THATS A BARGAIN !.

Sloyne
03-26-2007, 05:30 PM
As they have nicked his park name it after Noel Godfrey ChavasseThanks for the link Gnomie.

Gnomie
03-26-2007, 05:33 PM
what link?

Sloyne
03-26-2007, 06:35 PM
what link?The one to the Bernard Hogan site.

Gnomie
03-26-2007, 06:38 PM
Your very welcome mate, hope you like it:)

Gnomie
03-26-2007, 07:43 PM
hey call it

The Yo Liverpool Ferry Platforum:PDT_Xtremez_42:

Kev
03-26-2007, 07:49 PM
hey call it

The Yo Liverpool Ferry Platforum:PDT_Xtremez_42:

Taxi - :taxi:

iain
03-26-2007, 08:39 PM
Liverpool George Harrison Ocean Gateway

While they're (supposed to be) doing big works at Lime Street Station, why not rename that Liverpool Paul McCartney Station?

Now we just need something for Ringo :unibrow:

Howie
03-26-2007, 10:13 PM
While they're (supposed to be) doing big works at Lime Street Station, why not rename that Liverpool Paul McCartney Station?

Now we just need something for Ringo :unibrow:
Surely it should be Liverpool Ringo (Thomas the Tank Engine) Starr Station?

And find something for Paul (maybe a new wife) :rolleyes:

Howie
03-26-2007, 10:31 PM
I don't have enough interest in Politics to be bothered looking.

I was just stating that I never knew anyone who supported them.

I can only recall people slating Hatton and his crew.

Funny old world - everybody was at the first Sex Pistols gig yet there were only a few dozen there, nobody was on the streets supporting the 47 yet tens of thousands were there. (The power of the media to glorify or demonize our past eh!) :unibrow:

SteveFaragher
03-28-2007, 10:49 PM
The landing stage sunk so many times maybe it should be named to commerate the Thetis.....How many times did the oriiginal, worlds longest landing stage sink in its 100 year history prior to cutting it up in 1973???

john
03-28-2007, 10:54 PM
:)
I still like Liverpool Ocean Gateway

Klaatu
03-29-2007, 10:21 AM
As they have nicked his park name it after Noel Godfrey Chavasse


I like this one...Liverpool Chavasse Gateway

iain
03-30-2007, 08:54 PM
Surely it should be Liverpool Ringo (Thomas the Tank Engine) Starr Station?

And find something for Paul (maybe a new wife) :rolleyes:

Hehe... has anyone put a bet on (http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKN1130221020070312) Heather's leg flying off while she's dancing? :unibrow: :unibrow: :unibrow:

shytalk
03-30-2007, 09:27 PM
Does that show air in the uk?
She has done amazingly well so far. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Ged
03-30-2007, 09:29 PM
Only in the bookies apparently, you often see blokes walking out shaking their heads whilst ripping betting slips up.

The Gardens
03-31-2007, 10:57 AM
If you want to see Heather's leg fly off;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpflu4COG1w

iain
03-31-2007, 11:37 AM
:handclap: :unibrow: :unibrow: :unibrow: :unibrow: :handclap:

drone_pilot
03-31-2007, 05:28 PM
The Gardens that was terrible, I loved it:PDT11

A new name for the Landing stage how about,

The New Liverpool Submarine Landing Stage.

Kev
04-01-2007, 10:45 AM
1st April 2007

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/195/441761796_d514febaf6.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/441761796/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/198/441761880_0b5ab2ba63.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/441761880/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/171/441762541_57cbdf33e7.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/441762541/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/186/441761976_1f31367b4d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/441761976/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/441762062_cedff49406.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/441762062/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/194/441762751_12b2ee814e.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/441762751/)

scouserdave
04-01-2007, 10:56 AM
Thanks for the pics Kev, luv stuff like this:PDT11
And the Pier Head update:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Kev
04-01-2007, 10:59 AM
^^Thanks Dave^^

A.D.W
04-01-2007, 11:32 AM
Fine pictures Kev. Anybody know when the new landing stage is being put in place?

:034:

scouserdave
04-01-2007, 11:50 AM
Fine pictures Kev. Anybody know when the new landing stage is being put in place?

:034:

I heard they'll start in May. I'll pop into Canada Dock on Tuesday and see how work is progressing. Thanks to Marky (http://yoliverpool.com/forum/showpost.php?p=40316&postcount=7) for telling me in February what this was all about in my pic. I hadn't a clue at the time.
Here's a DP link (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_headline=-19m-cruise-liner-stage-to-be-ready-in-weeks&method=full&objectid=18790756&siteid=50061-name_page.html) from 22/03 about the cruise liner landing stage.

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/dockfeb001.jpg

A.D.W
04-01-2007, 12:52 PM
I heard they'll start in May. I'll pop into Canada Dock on Tuesday and see how work is progressing.

Pictures, plenty, would be splendid, young Dave.

:)

Kev
04-03-2007, 10:01 PM
Access road ,built in the "CUT" of the old floating roadway, will have linkspan bridge at far end leading down onto cruise liner stage, photo taken 3-3-07

[IMG]http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/3523/20070303shotsfirst0033vt5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

How it once looked........

(Liverpool Records Office)

Paul D
04-04-2007, 02:43 PM
And they revealed the multi-million pound facility would bear a simple and straightforward name – the City of Liverpool Cruise Terminal.

I never thought of that one,think big Liverpool!:handclap: :disgust:


http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=royal-date-awaits-cruise-liner-base%26method=full%26objectid=18854317%26siteid=50 061-name_page.html

Sloyne
04-04-2007, 04:40 PM
And they revealed the multi-million pound facility would bear a simple and straightforward name – the City of Liverpool Cruise Terminal. Would have liked it to be 'the Port & City of Liverpool etc'., but hey, I can live with the chosen name.:handclap:

Jericho
04-04-2007, 05:47 PM
I would have settled for Landing Stage. I'm just glad that it doesn't have the word 'ocean' in it.

ChrisGeorge
04-04-2007, 07:27 PM
And they revealed the multi-million pound facility would bear a simple and straightforward name – the City of Liverpool Cruise Terminal.

I never thought of that one,think big Liverpool!:handclap: :disgust:


http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=royal-date-awaits-cruise-liner-base%26method=full%26objectid=18854317%26siteid=50 061-name_page.html

Wasn't the old landing stage known as the Princes Landing Stage? What would have been wrong with that? The chosen name seems to me a bit work-a-day and uninspired but I suppose it will serve its purpose. :rolleyes:

Chris

Ged
04-04-2007, 08:47 PM
Manchester has a cruise terminal, where the Mersey ferry docks after its ship canal journey. What's that - Liverpool think big?????

At least with the title Ocean gateway, it's telling the world something - that this is your first port of call, like in the old days.

SteveFaragher
04-07-2007, 06:24 PM
I wonder how much a team of consultants were paid to think that name up, there was a case a few years ago of bradford university wanted a name for the new teaching hospital after nine months the consultants came up wioth university of bradford teaching hospital

woody
04-09-2007, 05:42 PM
5 April,
Foreground, the sunken stage is being broken up and in the background another "Dolphin" is fixed.........

httphttp://img109.imageshack.us/img109/8452/200704055407visitsitel1el8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)://

woody
04-09-2007, 05:49 PM
Samuel Cunard Way is almost finished.........:034:

hthttp://img161.imageshack.us/img161/8950/200704055407visitsitel1mi7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)tp://

Kev
04-10-2007, 09:09 AM
Thanks Woody :)

scouserdave
04-10-2007, 09:49 AM
This pic gives some indication of the size of the project.

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/term1.jpg

Kev
04-11-2007, 07:58 AM
THE newly named City of Liverpool Cruise Terminal will be officially opened by royalty during an open air public concert and fireworks display, it was revealed last night more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpooldailypost/news/regionalnews/tm_headline=music-feast-and-royalty-to-launch-cruise-showpiece%26method=full%26objectid=18886436%26site id=50061-name_page.html)

phredd
04-11-2007, 08:23 AM
How many brain cells and at what cost did it take to come up with these names ?

(1) City of Liverpool Cruise Terminal

(2) Samuel Cunard Way

The mind boggles

Phredd

scouserdave
04-11-2007, 10:11 AM
THE newly named City of Liverpool Cruise Terminal will be officially opened by royalty during an open air public concert and fireworks display, it was revealed last night more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpooldailypost/news/regionalnews/tm_headline=music-feast-and-royalty-to-launch-cruise-showpiece%26method=full%26objectid=18886436%26site id=50061-name_page.html)

"Angie Redhead, the city council’s cruise manager"
What a cool name!:handclap:
"Cruise manager" George Michael could have done with one of these before his career went down the sh**ter:disgust::)

Kev
04-13-2007, 08:08 AM
LIVERPOOL’S new cruise liner landing stage will be towed into its new home before the end of May, leaving just weeks to rehearse its security and management processes.

However, council cruise manager Angie Redhead last night insisted that the project was racing forward at ‘‘full steam ahead’’ pace.

The council’s executive board will today formally endorse the new name for the £19m cruise facility, to be known as the City of Liverpool Cruise Terminal. continues (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpooldailypost/news/regionalnews/tm_headline=new-stage-in-riverside-revival%26method=full%26objectid=18897385%26siteid =50061-name_page.html)....

goldenface
04-13-2007, 09:18 AM
Thats great news! I hope it all goes to plan. I work in the Cunard Building so I have a birds-eye view of the site.

Great stuff!

MissDemenour
04-13-2007, 09:22 AM
*sigh* I wish they would call the landing stage 'the floaty for the boaty' dunno why...just amuses me.

A.D.W
04-17-2007, 02:53 PM
^^It's a biggin!^^

Sunday 15th April 2007.

http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/pierhead/princes/pd1504071.jpg

Kev
04-19-2007, 11:06 PM
19th April 2007

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/465503642_fb09747a37_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/465503642/)

Kev
06-23-2007, 10:46 AM
THE return of the world’s biggest liners to the Mersey is coming a step closer, as a crucial stage of construction begins at Liverpool’s new cruise liner terminal. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpooldailypost/news/regionalnews/tm_headline=cruiser-terminal-construction-at-%2Dcrucial%2D-stage%26method=full%26objectid=19343926%26siteid=5 0061-name_page.html)

Kev
06-23-2007, 11:28 AM
THE return of the world’s biggest liners to the Mersey is coming a step closer, as a crucial stage of construction begins at Liverpool’s new cruise liner terminal. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpooldailypost/news/regionalnews/tm_headline=cruiser-terminal-construction-at-%2Dcrucial%2D-stage%26method=full%26objectid=19343926%26siteid=5 0061-name_page.html)

Sloyne
06-26-2007, 03:41 PM
Saga Cruise Line have announced that they will be originating at least five cruises from Liverpool this year. The ships to be used are the Saga Rose, which will account for four of the cruises and the other ship, Spirit of Adventure, will conduct the other cruise. Unfortunately neither ship will use the new cruise berth facility but will, instead, depart from the cruise terminal in Langton Dock.

jon_hall
06-26-2007, 07:18 PM
Bet i get stuck before loads of old people taking ages to get anywhere.

Paul D
07-11-2007, 02:27 PM
ONE of the world’s biggest holiday operators is to base a luxury cruise liner in Liverpool during the city’s year as European Capital of Culture.

Thomson Cruises is adding the Mersey as a home port during autumn next year, with the 1,300-capacity Celebration offering luxury journeys to ports such as Morocco.

It is the first time the company has used Liverpool as a starting point for its cruises as part of its drive to cater for growing demand from holidaymakers from Merseyside and North West.

Last night, David Selby, head of Thomson Cruises, said: “We delighted to announce that we are expanding our UK programme by adding Liverpool to our range of UK ports in 2008.

“We have a very loyal client base in the North West and not all prefer to fly to their chosen cruise ship.”

It will mean a record 30 cruises, carrying around 50,000 passengers, starting in Liverpool during 2008 to destinations such as the Amazon, Greenland and the Mediterranean.

Thomson is joining Fred Olsen Cruise Lines and cruise operators Page and Moy and Saga who are all stepping up their 2008 programmes from the Mersey.

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/07/11/mersey-base-for-luxury-liner-64375-19436821/

Ged
07-11-2007, 02:32 PM
Great news, this makes us unique to any of our closest rivals.

Paul D
07-11-2007, 02:50 PM
Great news, this makes us unique to any of our closest rivals.

Exactly Ged,anyone can have an airport but the river sets us apart.

marky
07-20-2007, 09:16 AM
I see that the Pontoons for the cruise terminal have yet to be floated to Princes Dock. This was reported to be scheduled to happen in June. I didn't notice the Pontoons in Canada Dock when I passed a couple of days ago (mind you, it was full of water at the time).

goldenface
07-20-2007, 11:36 AM
I thought it was delayed until the end of June. The new landing stage should be towed into position sometime soon.

PhilipG
07-20-2007, 01:18 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1343/851017200_7ca662ba3b_o.jpg

MerseysideTransportTrust
07-20-2007, 01:45 PM
I thought it was delayed until the end of June. The new landing stage should be towed into position sometime soon.

A Diver contact tells me that the new Pontoons are in a bad state they have been trying to sort them "in water" and have not yet passed the LLoyds Inspection! They are now going to be dry docked and sorted , so god knows when they'll be ready!

Regards

Rob

Gerard
07-20-2007, 01:57 PM
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marky
07-22-2007, 06:13 PM
I wonder what the cause of the problem is. The worst case scenario would be that the concrete was not vibrated to the bottom of the steelwork...if any steel is showing though the bottom of the concrete, then the pontoons would be uninsurable.

DaisyChains
07-24-2007, 10:02 AM
I wonder what the cause of the problem is. The worst case scenario would be that the concrete was not vibrated to the bottom of the steelwork...if any steel is showing though the bottom of the concrete, then the pontoons would be uninsurable.

sorry to be ignorant but what is a pontoon?

marky
07-24-2007, 03:30 PM
The pontoons are the concrete (re-inforced with steel) structures which will be fixed to form one long landing stage...in theory anyway, as there seems to be something delaying the completion of it.

phredd
07-24-2007, 03:45 PM
Here is a picture of a Pontoon with crane at the pier head. >>>>
Not the best of pics though. Two tugs are also in the oicture.

Phredd

DaisyChains
07-25-2007, 07:25 AM
I work in one of the buildings in front of it so I look at them everyday!
No work has taken place for ages...

marky
07-28-2007, 10:26 PM
I heard a rumour they've now been shifted to a dry-dock over the water. I don't know Birkenhead too well, but I'm sure they're not hard to find, if this is the case. I'm still awaiting some official announcement of the delay...it's already a month behind.

kat2
08-08-2007, 07:53 PM
CONTRACT 1077
Liverpool Cruise Liner Facility, Princes Dock
Operational Services
1ST June 2007 to 31st May 2012



INFORMATION FOR APPLICANTS
Liverpool City Council is constructing a landing stage at Princes Dock and the physical facilities necessary to attract consistently and in the long-term Cruise ships, naval vessels and other exhibition vessels to Liverpool (the “Cruise Liner Facility” (CLF)).

The CLF construction contract was awarded in January 2006 and is due to be completed in June 2007. Concurrently with the construction works, the City Council is seeking to procure the services required to operate the CLF effectively and sustainably.
More here
http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/Images/tcm21-76617.doc

Or here in Html format
http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:MPAxHmlB-voJ:www.liverpool.gov.uk/Images/tcm21-76617.doc+Liverpools+pontoons+in+repair&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=21&gl=uk

kat:)

kat2
08-08-2007, 08:29 PM
Giant Pontoon Cruises into Liverpool
01 Feb 2007

The Canada Graving Dock in Liverpool is playing host to an unfamiliar type of construction. The dock, which was the largest in Europe when it was built in the 1880s, has seen the construction of the Cunard Liners Lusitania and Mauretania. The latest structure to be added to the dock’s CV is the construction of the new reinforced concrete pontoons to be used as part of the city’s new cruise liner facility.

http://www.maritimejournal.com/__data/assets/mercator_image_highres/0015/132513/The_new_cruise_liner.JPG
More here
http://www.maritimejournal.com/archive/2007/february/port,_harbour__and__marine_construction/giant_pontoon_cruises_into_liverpool
kat
two sections of the cruise liner pontoon can be seen in Birkenhead's dry docks, both sections can be seen from Birkenhead Priory
:eek:

kat2
08-08-2007, 09:11 PM
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7576/pont1nh0.jpg

Photograph taken by The MerseyOrange, url, skyscrapercity.com
found via google
herehttp://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Pontoon+Liverpool&hl=en&cr=countryUK%7CcountryGB&start=30&sa=N
kat
pontoon being repaired/inspected in dry dock camel Lairds Birkenhead

Howie
08-10-2007, 09:18 AM
Race against time to be ready for QE2 visit
Aug 10 2007
by Larry Neild, Liverpool Daily Post

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icliverpool/feb2006/2/2/00034080-8AA9-13F5-9FDF0C02AC1BF824.jpg

LIVERPOOL faces a race against time to have its multi-million cruise liner terminal ready for its official launch event with the QE2.

In what could be a new body blow following the Mathew Street Festival fiasco, the cruise liner landing stage – which had been due to receive its first visitor last month – has been towed to Wirral’s Cammell Laird shipyard for checks and any urgent last-minute work. There is now a battle to ensure the work is completed and the £19m stage in place for the start of September, when a procession of cruise liners are due to visit Liverpool.

But the biggest date is September 21 when the QE2 is to visit the Mersey for the official launch of the new stage as part of the famous vessel’s farewell tour.

It was unclear last night whether the stage would be completed and fully tested by then or by September 2, when the cruise liner Prinsendam is due to tie up alongside.

Story continues (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_headline=race-against-time-to-be-ready-for-qe2-visit&method=full&objectid=19605191&siteid=50061-name_page.html#story_continue)...

kat2
08-11-2007, 02:12 PM
keep an eye open (even on some of the webcams) the pontoons could be coming across, back from the wirral at some stage over the weekend, predicted date is Monday, but you never know with the weather.
of course *grins* the pontoons wanted to stay over here at Cammel Lairds
but hey, somebodys gotta go back over the water! *g*!
heres a link to a new website (well it says its new)

Mersey docks and Harbour
nice flash vidoes too
http://www.merseydocks.co.uk/
Click on the red writing to enter the site
More about the cruise liner pontoon here
http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_headline=race-against-time-to-be-ready-for-qe2-visit%26method=full%26objectid=19605191%26siteid=5 0061-name_page.html
kat:)

Kev
08-11-2007, 04:09 PM
thanks kat:PDT11. that'll be a sight won't it, slowly watching that monster being towed over....

PhilipG
08-11-2007, 08:49 PM
Giant Pontoon Cruises into Liverpool
01 Feb 2007

The Canada Graving Dock in Liverpool is playing host to an unfamiliar type of construction. The dock, which was the largest in Europe when it was built in the 1880s, has seen the construction of the Cunard Liners Lusitania and Mauretania.


They weren't built in Liverpool, and didn't the liners berth in the river, not in docks?

BTW, shipbuilding in the 20th century (on the Mersey) was just at Cammell Laird's.

kat2
08-12-2007, 02:00 AM
Historical correction for Philip, *lol* perhaps you should tell the people that wrote the article too as I simply copied and pasted it.
here are the following corrections
>RMS Mauretania (also known as "Maury"), sister ship of the Lusitania, was an ocean liner built by Swan, Hunter & Wigham Richardson at Wallsend, Tyne and Wear, and was launched on September 20, 1906.

>RMS Lusitania was a British luxury ocean liner owned by the Cunard Steamship Line Shipping Company and built by John Brown and Company of Clydebank, Scotland. Christened and launched on Thursday, June 7, 1906

like all information I usually post a reference link
kat
:rolleyes:
like all things if information or links are incorrect then please advise on sites of correction (reference)
regards
kat:)

kat2
08-12-2007, 02:52 AM
complete with photographs of the construction
http://www.gifford.uk.com/news%20articles/Press%20Release%20Construction%20News%20161106.pdf

At Canada Gravelling dock
The new facility includes the construction of a floating concrete platform 240m long by 28m wide in plan and up to 5m deep, with a draft of approximately 3m
kat:)

PhilipG
08-12-2007, 03:08 AM
complete with photographs of the construction
http://www.gifford.uk.com/news%20articles/Press%20Release%20Construction%20News%20161106.pdf

At Canada Gravelling dock
The new facility includes the construction of a floating concrete platform 240m long by 28m wide in plan and up to 5m deep, with a draft of approximately 3m
kat:)

Kat2.
I've tried to send you a private email but I can't.
I don't know where you're getting these pieces from, but the word is Graving Dock.
BTW, I'm not an expert on shipping!

kat2
08-12-2007, 03:18 AM
Ive set not to recieve emails as I like to be open and honest, like I said normally I post links to all information as I find it, I am sorry about my miss spelling of the word Graving for Gravelling. I too am not an expert and can only post what I beleive to be correct from the scource sites, I do not cross reference information that I feel is from a national company of such importance as not to get their information wrong.
like all things this is a trend with the internet, (sadly) where there can be inaccuracys of information.
kat:)

naked lilac
08-12-2007, 04:14 AM
If any of you have the chance to see the QE2.. (and the landing in Liverpool ), is ready for its arrival.. then, by all means get your cameras loaded and ready..

It is a magnificent liner.. and was here in Hawaii in all its glory.. It had come from California.. Just superb to see it in the HARBOR.. maybe one day have a cruise on it.. that would be lovely...
Great Info.. Kat..ta

PhilipG
08-12-2007, 04:45 AM
The QE2's been to Liverpool twice before, and I took photos each time (with my not very good Zenith camera).
One that did turn out well has the Royal Iris alongside (and the Royal Liver Building in the background.)
I think the QE2's coming again in 2008 on its final tour before being pensioned off.
I wonder if we'll get the Queen Mary 2 in the Mersey?
I'd love to see that.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/99/290831879_cf9e709f76_o.jpg

kat2
08-12-2007, 11:39 AM
I think, (and I could be wrong) that the QE2 is coming here on September 21 2007 to open the Cruise Liner terminal, after that she will do her rounds to other UK ports before retiring to Dubia, where she will become a floating hotel
kat:)

the pool08
08-12-2007, 08:11 PM
hello, this is a good view of the waterfront, QE2 in sep
wirral webcam [60 sec reload]

http://www.wirralcam.org/waterfront.shtml

A.D.W
08-13-2007, 01:25 PM
Any news on the movement of the Cruise Liner facility?

:PDT_Xtremez_42:

kat2
08-13-2007, 04:02 PM
it was supposed to be towed across today Monday, I cannot get out and about due to a leg injury, (on sticks) *sobs* so dunno, I have been watching the webcams but so far I havent seen anything.
kat:)

phredd
08-13-2007, 07:27 PM
Went down to said location and it was not there.
Spoke to a IOM worker and they have been told it maybe towed to location later tonight. About midnight he said.

Phredd

A.D.W
08-13-2007, 08:18 PM
Went down to said location and it was not there.
Spoke to a IOM worker and they have been told it maybe towed to location later tonight. About midnight he said.

Phredd

Be worth checking the Mersey vessel movements map?

http://www.aisliverpool.co.uk/currentmap.php?map=docks

:PDT_Xtremez_42:

kat2
08-13-2007, 08:26 PM
thanks, under the cover of darkness, mind u I do keep watching the webcams to see if it turns up, looks like low tide at the moment though
kat

A.D.W
08-14-2007, 11:41 AM
Nothing as yet and with the weather as it is I can't see it being towed over anytime this week.

:PDT_Xtremez_42:

kat2
08-14-2007, 01:12 PM
thanku, for the updates, cant wait till my leg gets better so I can get out and about again, but its nice everyone is watching out for the pontoons crossing over.
kat:)

kat2
08-15-2007, 01:27 AM
A lovely set of photographs (copy right) of the crossing of the pontoons to Birkenhead, credits to skyscrapercity for posting the links to this feature.
http://www.irishseashipping.co.uk/photofeatures/ports/princesstageworks0607/princesstageworks0607.htm#August_11cl
kat:)

ChrisGeorge
08-15-2007, 01:33 AM
A lovely set of photographs (copy right) of the crossing of the pontoons to Birkenhead, credits to skyscrapercity for posting the links to this feature.
http://www.irishseashipping.co.uk/photofeatures/ports/princesstageworks0607/princesstageworks0607.htm#August_11cl

kat:)

Hello kat

What's going on here? Are the pontoons going to be floated across the Mersey from Birkenhead, or what's the plan? Thanks in advance for explaining.

Chris George
(Scouser exiled in the US)

kat2
08-15-2007, 01:49 AM
Hi, Chris, I think what has happend has been brilliantly illustraited and talked about by the photographer John Luxton, and Alan Lee, they go into some detail as to what had supposedly happend to the pontoon, and why it is over in a Birkenhead shipyard. There is a claim that water leaked into the dock were the pontoons were being constructed. The pontoons were due to be moved back across from Birkenhead to Liverpool On Monday but due to bad weather reports, this was not the case. I have been posting in this thread and watching the webcams to see or spot the pontoons going back, if my leg wasnt injured then I would be out and about
kat
:)

ChrisGeorge
08-15-2007, 01:54 AM
Hi Kat

Many thanks for your explanation. Hope you feel better soon. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Chris

marky
08-15-2007, 03:03 AM
I note that Balfour Beatty are being very quiet about the reason for the delay. Maybe if I was speculating, I might say that the company wanted the concrete so stiff that it didn't reach the bottom of the steelwork resulting in 'honeycombing' of the structure. I could also speculate that Canada dock gate was damaged by concrete slurry jamming the gates shut. Maybe the company will confirm the reason for the 6 week delay (I don't think they will)

A.D.W
08-15-2007, 09:03 AM
They are cutting it very fine for the arrival of the PRINSENDAM on September 2nd.

Sigh!

:PDT_Xtremez_42:

kat2
08-15-2007, 12:13 PM
sadly intentions where meant well, I think the origional plan was to make a steel structure, but due to the cost of steel it was later decided to make it in concrete. With regards to how and why,dunno, no doubt it will need to pass another safety inspection before it leaves dry dock here and that might be the cause of the delay? once they have the safety certificate I would imagine it would be towed straight across to its final position.
kat:)

kat2
08-16-2007, 12:51 PM
Race against time to put liner ternal in place

Aug 16 2007 by Tony McDonough, Liverpool Daily Post

CONSTRUCTION giant Balfour Beatty last night said it was confident of putting Liverpool’s new cruise liner terminal in place within the next 24 to 48 hours.

However, it still faces a race to ensure it is operational in time for the visit of a string of major vessels, including the QE2, in September.

The £19m landing stage currently lies in a dry dock at Cammell Laird where it has undergone last minute checks and so-called snagging repairs.

A spokeswoman for Balfour told the Daily Post that discussions were now taking place about the exact timing for the stage to be moved across the Mersey.

Last week fears were raised that the platform may not be in place in time for the start of September, when a procession of cruise liners are due to visit Liverpool.

The biggest date is September 21 when the QE2 is to visit the Mersey for the official launch of the new stage as part of the famous vessel’s farewell tour. It also needs to be in place to allow the visit of HMS Ark Royal to Liverpool on September 14.

The Balfour spokeswoman said: “There are meetings taking place now to decide exactly when we will able to float the terminal into position.

“It does depend on factors like tides but the plan is to begin floating it in the next 24 to 48 hours.”

Once the stage is floated into position it will then have to be attached to a line of piles sunk into the river bed, and then the roadways linking the stage with the quayside will have to be lifted into place.

Safety trials and tests will then need to carried out, leaving little time before the arrival of the first vessels.
kat, your roving undercover news reporter, an special agent *g*"":)

kat2
08-16-2007, 07:37 PM
hmm, still not moved, are we there yet?

A.D.W
08-17-2007, 01:29 AM
Friday's high tide is 1430 so maybe something will happen then? Fingers crossed!

:PDT_Xtremez_42:

kat2
08-17-2007, 03:17 PM
http://www.aisliverpool.co.uk/currentmap.php?map=docksits on the move, friday 17th August
see here trafalgar tug. http://www.aisliverpool.co.uk/currentmap.php?map=docks
should be on view any minute now (hopefully)
kat:)

marky
08-17-2007, 07:05 PM
It came, and then went back again. It was still in the water outside the dry dock when I last saw it (about 6 P.M.)

kat2
08-17-2007, 07:27 PM
Ive noticed on the shipping map there both in the middle of the mersey,
I would guess looking at the Map that they are waiting for darkness for reasons best left to them *lol*, I mean its not as though its a secret anymore, that and the risks of having the pontoon stuck out in the mersey all this time, i can see the waterloo, and trafalgar are still towing a section of the pontoon, time 1930
kat:)

the pool08
08-17-2007, 08:30 PM
Visible on Wirralcam now.
8.30 pm

kat2
08-17-2007, 09:22 PM
you can see the pontoon on the british waterways webcam
also heres a live shipping map which you can zoom in on
http://www.aisliverpool.
org.uk/gmap2.php (http://www.aisliverpool.org.uk/:)gmap2.php)
here is a pic of the pontoon
http://www.aptb09.dsl.pipex.com/lcl_n.jpg
kat:)

marky
08-18-2007, 12:47 AM
Here's some pics of its' first journey.
After leaving dry dock it went South a bit, before turning around. This attempt had to be aborted and it returned to just outside the dry dock to wait.
Irishseashipping website has the full story:
http://www.irishseashipping.co.uk/photofeatures/ports/princesstageworks0607/princesstageworks0607.htm#August_11cl

Paul D
08-18-2007, 04:32 PM
Mersey’s £19m cruise liner terminal tugged into place

LIVERPOOL’S new cruise liner terminal finally started to arrive at its new riverfront home last night.

River tugs were drafted in to start the process of towing the £19m berth into place in an operation likely to last until Monday.

It means the new terminal will be ready and operational in time for its official opening ceremony on September 21, when the QE2 will steam up the river as part of its 40th anniversary cruise.

The ceremony will be one of the highlights of the city’s 800th birthday year, attracting tens of thousands of visitors to the banks of the river in Liverpool and Wirral.

A week earlier, the Royal Navy’s flagship, Ark Royal, is scheduled to visit the River Mersey.

It will tie up alongside the stage if the set-up is operational.


The first of four segments of the stage were floated out of the dry dock at Cammell Laird’s Birkenhead yard on the afternoon tide yesterday. Tugs brought it across the river and it spent several hours mid-river last night waiting for the departure of the Isle of Man Super Seacat so it could be towed into place at around 9pm. The other three stages will be floated into place in an operation expected to be completed over the next few days.

Depending on weather and tidal conditions marine experts are confident the landing stage will be fully installed by Monday.

Once the landing stage is towed to the Liverpool waterfront, the sections will be linked to a series of piles that have been sunk into the hard rock river bed.

The landing stage will rise and fall with the tides.

Balfour Beatty engineers will be working throughout the weekend to complete the operation.

While the four sections of the stage are being brought to the riverfront, work teams will be busy completing a new road bridge link that will enable heavy traffic to reach the new landing stage from the riverfront.

A separate pedestrian bridge is also under construction along Princes Parade.

Once everything has been put in place, an essential series of safety trials and tests will then need to carried out.

Originally, the landing stage was due to move into place in June.

Unseasonably wet weather – that saw large areas of the country flooded – made it impossible for the new stage to be moved into place.

It was taken instead to Cammell Laird to enable checks and last- minute works to take place. The city council plan is for dozens of cruise liners and Royal Navy vessels to visit the Mersey, bringing tens of thousands of visitors to the city and potentially earning several million pounds a year for the city economy.

kat2
08-18-2007, 05:43 PM
LIVERPOOL’S new cruise liner terminal finally started to arrive at its new riverfront home last night.

River tugs were drafted in to start the process of towing the £19m berth into place in an operation likely to last until Monday.

It means the new terminal will be ready and operational in time for its official opening ceremony on September 21, when the QE2 will steam up the river as part of its 40th anniversary cruise
http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/liverpoolpost/aug2007/5/0/7862B4CB-C254-A30E-5763898C94068F89.jpghttp://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/liverpoolpost/aug2007/4/0/78639665-91A7-83C6-0E11426BFB37E0AC.jpg
More here:->
http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/08/18/mersey-s-19m-cruise-liner-terminal-tugged-into-place-64375-19654634/
kat:)

miguel
08-18-2007, 08:01 PM
Looks like they got that right then, Kat. Good . . . and thanks for the up-date.

skgogosfan
08-19-2007, 04:26 AM
Excellent! I feared that was going to be late and the opening would have to be delayed.

Dave.

kat2
08-19-2007, 02:32 PM
Mersey Mamouth (water craine) at work today on the pontoons, can be seen near the pier head, if you have internet explorer, you can zoom in on the wirral waterfront webcam.
kat:)http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/7676/p1010026qy0.jpg
scoop by Doug Roberts, of skyscrapercity credits as always to the photographer
thanku:)

Howie
08-20-2007, 08:30 AM
Aug 20 2007

THE landing stage at Liverpool’s new cruise liner terminal should be finished today.

All pieces of the stage should be secured and work teams are also busy completing foot and road bridges.

More (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/08/20/cruise-liner-landing-stage-may-be-completed-today-64375-19660729/)...

marky
08-20-2007, 09:26 AM
By early afternoon there was still only the first section in place. A tug moved alongside this section, and another one by the dry-dock, but I didn't hang around to see if another section was to be fixed in place.

A.D.W
08-20-2007, 11:15 PM
http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/pierhead/princes/pd19080710.jpg

kat2
08-20-2007, 11:24 PM
Nice photo, I wonder why they brought another pontoon across yesterday but dunno where its gone, it went over though?
according to the local papers it was supposed to be installed today, (monday) I cannot see it to be the weather?
any ideas/
kat:)

A.D.W
08-21-2007, 10:04 AM
Another piece is being moved into place on the http://www.wirralcam.org/waterfront.shtml.

:PDT11

marky
08-21-2007, 12:57 PM
There was still only one section late yesterday, but this morning I went down and another piece was being fixed into place.

kat2
08-21-2007, 10:31 PM
Another lovely collection of photos,
I like the night shot, very eery.
kat:)

kat2
08-22-2007, 12:15 AM
More photos of the landing stage being installed here
http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/pierhead/princes/princes8.html
kat:)

marky
08-23-2007, 03:33 PM
The third section was there yesterday. The fourth section was installed just after Noon today. It's quite a long structure when all put together.

kat2
08-23-2007, 03:36 PM
its just a pity that ark royals now not coming, I was looking forward to seing a modern day warship *sighs* and the significance of ark royal too.
another bad glitch.
kat:shock:

marky
08-23-2007, 06:18 PM
Pic 1 shows the 3 sections, just before Noon. The last pic shows a bolt which secures the last clamp...success.

marky
08-23-2007, 06:21 PM
All four sections.

kat2
08-23-2007, 08:06 PM
THanku, Marky, lovely collection of photographs, showing the final sections of the pontoon coming together at last, it was good of you to take time out to show the whole experience
kat:)

0683
08-24-2007, 12:18 AM
I had a boat trip over to the Isle of Man today and saw the last section being floated along by three tugs. Will post some pictures in the morning.

0683
08-24-2007, 08:28 AM
Hi
A couple of pictures showing the landing stage section being floated along the Mersey 23/08/07.Taken from the IOM seacat.

kat2
08-24-2007, 01:32 PM
its nice to see another project nearing completion.
kat:)

Kev
08-28-2007, 09:12 AM
LIVERPOOL’S cruise liner terminal is finally in place, paving the way for a return of the ocean-going cruise liners to the world-famous waterfront. Read (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/08/28/city-ready-for-the-big-ships-64375-19695524/)

miguel
08-28-2007, 09:08 PM
It brings back great memories. I was a Cunard Yank and of course the Britannic, along with so many others; Sylvania, Carinthia, Ivernia, Saxonia, MV Georgic, Reina del Mar, Pacifico del Mar (?), the Empress liners
. . . . can't believe we took everything for granted. It never occurred to us that it would all come to an end so abruptly. Those Days of Excitement, Elegance, Glamour, Ostentatious Grandeur. We we all Cunarders then.

MY CUNARD JUMPER

'Twas just an old blue jumper,
With the words 'Cunard' in red;
But it served as winter warmer, and
A pillow for my head.
It saw the watch and stood the wheel,
Till coldness of the dawn,
From masthead to the keel and aft,
Where future dreams are borne.

I wish that old blue jumper,
With its 'Cunard' words in red,
Was on my shoulders even now,
To share the past unsaid.
To bear the chill of passing time,
And comfort me from sin,
When I was in that jumper,
With the future looking in.

naked lilac
08-28-2007, 09:22 PM
Very impressive pics Marty.. So, there ya go... Cruise liners to your port of call.. They are beautiful to see in OUR harbor here.. so majestic..

phredd
08-28-2007, 10:52 PM
miguel Hi

To pick up on your (?) = It was the Reina Del Pacifico :slywink:
Right words, wrong way round.:)
Phredd.

miguel
08-28-2007, 11:11 PM
Oh well, difference between sea and Pacific. So size does matter - I knew it did . . . thank God. Hey, cheers, Phredd

AK1
08-29-2007, 10:21 AM
The new road bridge to the cruise liner berth:

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa60/AK1_photo/DSC00527.jpg

marky
08-29-2007, 11:33 AM
Walkway in place (pics taken yesterday)

miguel
08-29-2007, 12:39 PM
The old one that; re-painted. You're not kidding Michael

snappel
08-29-2007, 05:25 PM
The foot walkway may be the old one, but the road bridge is new, having been constructed on-site to specific designs.

kat2
08-29-2007, 07:21 PM
Looks nice, and nice photos too, I beleive the first ship is due on the 2nd of September, but it will probably anchor in the usual place rather than use the terminal.
kat:)

kat2
08-29-2007, 08:07 PM
Cross-river lasers – Innovative lighting displays to showcase Liverpool’s world-famous waterfront, with laser shows linking Liverpool and Birkenhead. The first show will coincide with the launch of the new cruiseliner facility in September
More from herehttp://www.nwda.co.uk/news--events/press-releases/200701/mersey-waterfront-unveils-%C2%A391m.aspx
kat:)

Kev
09-08-2007, 08:26 AM
LIVERPOOL’S new £19m cruise liner landing stage will be given its big test tomorrow when it welcomes its first visitor. Read (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/09/08/liner-berth-heralds-new-era-64375-19752985/)

(Three threads merged)

taffy
09-08-2007, 09:38 AM
It would be nice if this landing stage could be called by its original name " Princes Landing Stage". It would maintain continuity with the past in much the same way as the term Pier Head and Mann Island have survived. "Cruise Liner Landing Stage" is probably a misnomer anyway. I suspect other ships will tie up there including the Royal Navy's Ark Royal when it finally returns.

kat2
09-08-2007, 10:19 AM
http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/videos-pictures/videos/videos-news/2007/09/07/landing-stage-opens-in-liverpool-64375-19752553/
Below is one to keep for your diary, (flash video)
http://videos.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolpost/video-64375-19752553.flv
kat:)

jon_hall
09-08-2007, 10:46 AM
As i'm not going out tonight, might go for an early wander in the morning as it's only 5 mins walk from me.

Kev
09-08-2007, 10:58 AM
I had the same thought Jon.

jon_hall
09-08-2007, 07:58 PM
Just got to drag myself out of my pit by 7am.

HollyBlack
09-08-2007, 08:14 PM
So has someone snapped up the berth vacancy created by Ark Royal's cancellation? Anyone grabbed it? Someone must have an interesting ship at a loose end next weekend. Perhaps the Irish Navy?

jon_hall
09-09-2007, 09:57 AM
Got there about 7.40am, couldn't see the liner as i was walking through Princes Dock but could see the water cannons from the tugs coming down the River.

Not a massive ship but looks very nice and every room comes with a balcony.

Only got a pic via mobile phone. Any clues on how to upload it or could i text/email to it anyone via my phone. Unless Kev was there taking pics?

A.D.W
09-09-2007, 10:00 AM
Greetings Jon. I never noticed Kev there, but I shall upload a few pictures I took soon.

:PDT_Piratz_26:

jon_hall
09-09-2007, 10:04 AM
I don't know what anyone looks like but fancied a wander as i live not far from there.

At least it will save me posting a phone pic.

Looks like a few of them are going to Chester for a tour as well as the ones going round in the open top buses.

A.D.W
09-09-2007, 10:30 AM
http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/pierhead/princes/ssv/bssv0909071.jpg

A.D.W
09-09-2007, 10:35 AM
http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/pierhead/princes/ssv/bssv0909072.jpg

A.D.W
09-09-2007, 10:43 AM
http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/pierhead/princes/ssv/bssv0909073.jpg

robbo176
09-09-2007, 11:07 AM
nice pics AD :PDT_Piratz_26:

Kev
09-09-2007, 12:32 PM
Well I've woken up to some fab views this afternoon (the longest lie in I've had for years, alcohol induced).

Excellent :PDT11

A.D.W
09-09-2007, 12:38 PM
Well I've woken up to some fab views this afternoon (the longest lie in I've had for years, alcohol induced).

Excellent :PDT11

Here you are, Kev.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XQdWKA45Gvs

:PDT_Xtremez_42:

Kev
09-09-2007, 01:06 PM
Is the Ferry going to use it too or is it separate?

A.D.W
09-09-2007, 01:10 PM
The ferry is going to get its own landing stange, Kev.

Kev
09-09-2007, 01:18 PM
That's what I thought. The BBC Liverpool site have got it ferry wrong then: Liner docks at new ferry terminal (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/6985836.stm)

A.D.W
09-09-2007, 01:23 PM
That's what I thought. The BBC Liverpool site have got it ferry wrong then: Liner docks at new ferry terminal (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/6985836.stm)

That article is wrong on so many levels!

:Smiliz_Kingz_PDT_13

A.D.W
09-09-2007, 01:28 PM
http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/pierhead/princes/ssv/bssv0909076.jpg

A.D.W
09-09-2007, 03:36 PM
Anybody know what time this leaves tonight?

Paul D
09-09-2007, 06:03 PM
Tomorrow, a second vessel, the Deutschland, owned by German cruise company Peter Dellimann, will arrive at 6am at the landing stage for a two-day visit as part of a European tour.:)

Paul D
09-09-2007, 06:08 PM
Anybody know what time this leaves tonight?

5:30pm.

A.D.W
09-09-2007, 06:20 PM
5:30pm.

Thanks, Paul.

:crybaby:

AK1
09-09-2007, 07:49 PM
Some I took toay:

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa60/AK1_photo/DSC00565.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa60/AK1_photo/DSC00566.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa60/AK1_photo/DSC00567.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa60/AK1_photo/DSC00568.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa60/AK1_photo/DSC00569.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa60/AK1_photo/DSC00575.jpg