jimmy
02-05-2008, 12:10 AM
Fresh produce terminal for city
It is hoped the terminal will be up and running by September
A new £6m terminal is to be built in the Port of Liverpool
It is designed to help cut truck journeys and carbon emissions by shipping them further north rather than driving the fruit from a southern port.
It is hoped that the new Liverpool Produce terminal will be up and running by September.
Lewis Clements, joint Managing Director of Go-Associates, said it made environmental and economic sense to ship the produce to Liverpool.
He said :"Ten million tonnes of fresh produce are shipped into the UK each year and half of it comes up to the North of England.
"It makes economic and environmental sense to bring that volume to the deepsea port that is closest to the population of 30 million people and is served by the best motorway network for rapid distribution direct to supermarkets."
Waterways
02-05-2008, 12:52 AM
Where will the terminal be? This stuff came in years ago. After Thatcher character assassinated the city people ignored the port.
shoney
02-05-2008, 10:40 AM
Where will the terminal be? This stuff came in years ago. After Thatcher character assassinated the city people ignored the port.
the port was being ignored before 1979 ,admit it , it was never in it's heyday until then was it, regardless of politics it was not economic otherwise the place would have been mad busy
Waterways
02-05-2008, 01:34 PM
the port was being ignored before 1979, admit it, it was never in it's heyday until then was it, regardless of politics it was not economic otherwise the place would have been mad busy
It was nothing to do with economics it was always economic to use the port. Companies wouldn't even look at the city dismissing it without any thought. It never entered their minds.
The south end Dock were closed in 1971, with Brunswick and Coburg Docks lasting until 1975 as the silo was still operating. Too small they said the docks were. Yet Garston Docks further upstream in a dredged channel that costs to dredge, remained and are still operational today.
Liverpool in the 1970s had excellent motorway and rail links yet the port was ignored for more expensive options mainly in the south.
The Tesco Seaforth - Manchester wine container shuttle shows how cheap the port can be. They are saving tons of money by not using southern ports and transporting by road using a fleet of trucks. If Tesco had the brains to have put their wine bottling plant on a lay-by on the ship canal, the operation would have been far cheaper again. No one thought - only after the event did they realise a large port was 30 miles down the road so let's use it.
I worked at Jame Troop on the Dock Rd. In the late 1960s the south end docks were busy. Yet a few years later they were closed down - prematurely in my view and clear bad management. Not all cargo goes by containers. Even today the north ends docks still has ships berthing with traditional holds and dockers unloading.
While Liverpool declined, with fantastic transport infrastructure, other ports started to expand. Liverpool is also in the centre of the industrial heartland too. While the population increasing and generally the country was getting wealthier and most people with more expendable income and imports rising, the perfectly more than adequate port declined.
Now that fuel is more expensive and road haulage is more expensive, the port will expand and be more attractive. Taking cargo to the port and short rail/road trips to nearby towns will make the transportation more economic.
Post Panamax container ships are trans-ocean. There will be only a few places they will berth and being near to one of the ports will reduce times and money in shipping. Liverpool has a lot going for it as a port, which was always there. The usage of the North west passage to the Pacific will benefit the port too. The transport connections and the fuel price hypes will focus on economy..and not to mention the environment getting all these trucks off the road. In the yea olden dayes, industry clustered in towns around the ports as transportation was expensive. Cheap road haulage and motorways changed that, and vindictive politicians used that for their own ends too.
Liverpool was character assassinated by the Thatcher government - Tory backers P&O moved to Mostyn a village in in Wales on The River Dee accessed by a narrow channel. Naturally it failed and they had to return to the big port nearby. Just an example.
shoney
02-05-2008, 06:52 PM
No argument thatcher did have it in for the city, however the city was in decline before she started kicking it in the balls, then degsy hatton comes along and gives the whole country an opportunity to kick it in the balls too, in 1984 I used to do grant work on run down properties in the dingle and toxteth, thanks to hatton and his supermen that work was stopped almost overnight which meant no work for local tradesmen and localeyesores and sub-standard housing remained ..