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Gerimensch
11-28-2007, 09:07 AM
Hi,
I'm Gerhard. I'm a stundent of architecture in Nürnberg(Germany).
I have to write an article about the constructione of the St. George Church in Everton.
Especially about the ironconstruction on the roof.
I search over a week at the internet, libary....but I find no realizable informationes.
Maybe sombody of you can help me....PLEASE
greetings
Gerhard
taffy
11-28-2007, 03:45 PM
Hi,
I'm Gerhard. I'm a stundent of architecture in Nürnberg(Germany).
I have to write an article about the constructione of the St. George Church in Everton.
Especially about the ironconstruction on the roof.
I search over a week at the internet, libary....but I find no realizable informationes.
Maybe sombody of you can help me....PLEASE
greetings
Gerhard
Here's a link to the church's somewhat out of date web site. It has a good photo of the internal structural ironwork
http://www.neighbourhoodservices.com/stgeorgeschurch/
The church has published its own history. You might care to contact the vicar to purchase a copy. It has a lot of information about the building of the church plus several photos.
Another church built around the same time is St Michael in the Hamlet, Toxteth Park, Liverpool. This has a greater use of cast iron in the structure.
TonyS
11-28-2007, 04:29 PM
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robbo176
11-28-2007, 04:33 PM
Hiya Gerhard
I have a book "St Georges Church Everton, the Iron Church" by RF Mould
email me with the information you would like & I'll see if its in the book
Mandy
chippie
11-28-2007, 06:32 PM
Hiya Mandy, well done, I,ve been looking for my copy all afternoon. I was going to send it to Gerhard but couldn,t find it at all.
Gerimensch
11-29-2007, 06:44 AM
Hi together,
thank you for your fast replies. Your posts help me very well. :handclap:
Andy if you have more details and drawings about the for me post it please.
Thank you very much indeed!
Gerhard
robbo176
11-29-2007, 07:33 AM
heres some recent photos for you
chippie
11-29-2007, 02:53 PM
Thanks for them Mandy, I,ve saved the first one. My dad and Auntie Lil had their service from here before they were laid to rest. Mind you, you can hardly say my dad is" laid to rest" floating in the Mersey, can you?
robbo176
12-01-2007, 11:35 AM
Hiya Gerhard
heres a few scans from the book
robbo176
12-01-2007, 11:39 AM
and here are a few photos I took yesterday
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chippie
12-03-2007, 12:11 AM
lovely Mandy, thank you for those smashin, photos. I correct myself when I said that I had two relatives had their service in St Georges, it was three, dad, Auntie Lil and Uncle Bill. My other uncle was buried in Glasgow, that,s half my dad,s family gone now.:PDT_Aliboronz_11:
Gerimensch
12-03-2007, 07:30 AM
Thank you Mandy for this helpful pictures!! :handclap:
Now I can start my work.
greats
Geri
Well done Mandy, great pics. There's just room under those inscriptions for Robbo woz ere 2007.
robbo176
12-12-2007, 12:30 AM
here's some pics of the interior
Waterways
12-12-2007, 12:09 PM
Thank you Mandy for this helpful pictures!! :handclap:
Now I can start my work.
greats
Geri
Look at the Churches
- St. Michaels in the Hamlet (built by the same man who built St George's)
- St James' Church
Both of iron construction.
Also look at Oriel Chambers in Water St in Liverpool (the world's first iron framed glass curtain walled building (1864) and 16 Cook St, similar, two years later. Most modern buildings are based on the construction methods of these two buildings.
16 Cook St is my favourite building of any anywhere. A magic little building that even has a cantilevered encased in glass, spiral staircase at the back (out of view for the public).
Gerimensch
01-08-2008, 01:06 PM
Hi,
frist: happy new year. :-)
Now my question: Does somebody of you know why the door of the st. george church is red?
I have know idea and for me it make no sense. ;-)
greats
geri
Waterways
01-08-2008, 01:40 PM
Hi,
frist: happy new year. :-)
Now my question: Does somebody of you know why the door of the st. george church is red?
I have know idea and for me it make no sense. ;-)
greats
geri
It just looks like someone had bad taste.
Prefabricated iron churches were made in Liverpool - a kit. I believe the odd one or two is still lying around Africa.
ChrisGeorge
01-08-2008, 01:58 PM
Lovely photographs, Mandy! :handclap: :PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Following is a poem of mine that I posted on the Liverpool 800 Poems site (http://www.poem800.com).
The Blake Mistake
Henri took Ginsberg to St. George’s, Everton,
chill church interior constructed of cast iron:
iron columns, vaulted ribs, window tracery,
all transported via horse-drawn dray from
Cragg’s Forge, Toxteth. As they emerged
from the iron cathedral, the scribes laughed
to see “Blake Street,” reminded of William Blake,
eighteenth century poet, madman, artist: unaware
the street name derived not from the Tyger man
who had warned of England’s dark satanic mills,
but Cromwell's ironsided admiral, Robert Blake.
Each cherished the talismanic moment in his heart;
William Blake’s ghost fertilized his muse to the root.
Christopher T. George
taffy
01-08-2008, 05:55 PM
Lovely photographs, Mandy! :handclap: :PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Following is a poem of mine that I posted on the Liverpool 800 Poems site (http://www.poem800.com).
The Blake Mistake
Henri took Ginsberg to St. George’s, Everton,
chill church interior constructed of cast iron:
iron columns, vaulted ribs, window tracery,
all transported via horse-drawn dray from
Cragg’s Forge, Toxteth. As they emerged
Wasn't Cragg's foundry off Dale Street?
robbo176
01-12-2008, 10:11 AM
I've just found this short video of St Georges
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/videos-pictures/videos/echo-tv/2007/12/04/st-george-s-church-100252-20200867/
naked lilac
01-12-2008, 06:43 PM
Ta Mandy.. even though that video clip was very short.. it was informative.. I never new it had a caste iron frame.. and is the highest point in Liverpool.. thanks for that info.. :snf (41):
robbo176
04-26-2008, 09:15 PM
here some photos from St Georges tower from today
the clock
Great those Mandy. :handclap:
lindylou
04-27-2008, 08:59 AM
Some good views there Mandy :handclap:
John(Zappa)
04-27-2008, 10:13 AM
Good pics there Mandy.Well done:PDT11:handclap:
robbo176
04-27-2008, 10:17 AM
thank you Ged,Lindy & Zaps:PDT_Piratz_26:
chippie
04-27-2008, 07:55 PM
How did you get up there Mandy, you,re not absailing again are you?
Great views from what has become the family church since St Benedicts was pulled down. Our lot seem to have their services from there now.
Well done Mandy.:hug:
sacredgate
05-02-2008, 09:05 PM
This church is one of my most favorites. This is probably because I really adore the way iron steels were erected on the ceiling, better than any other steel commercial buildings that has ever existed.
killerbot
05-07-2008, 09:53 PM
This church is one of my most favorites. This is probably because I really adore the way iron steels were erected on the ceiling, better than any other steel commercial buildings that has ever existed.
^ I totally agree with you. its good to think about how a considerably old church still could attract lots of admirers. :handclap:
metaltecnicas
11-30-2008, 01:53 AM
Taffy wrote:
< Frances Morton and Co Ltd was of course based in Garston and was a major steel fabrication company. A particular speciality was prefabricated buildings, churches etc which they exported world wide. The business had its roots in Cable St Liverpool in 1766. Unfortunately like most of the original dockside industry in Garston, it is no more. >
Please could you tell me more about the history of this Company. I think was founded by two engineers but I couldn't find any information about them.
Could you tell me what happened with this Co.? Are they still working with another name?
I am from Buenos Aires and we have very important iron buildings from 1910-1920. The most famous is the Railroad Central Terminal that has cost 2.000.000 pounds of those years.
Thank you very much for your attention.
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