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bdm
09-18-2007, 12:59 AM
Which of these areas in Merseyside would you say has the highest average household income:

Heswell, Wirral
Hoylake, Wirral
Southport
Formby
Woolton
Allerton (Calderstones Area)
Mossley Hill
Aigburth
Grassendale
Other?


Also, which area of Merseyside would you say is more synonomous with "old money." In other words, in which area would you find wealth handed down over several generations, and not recently achieved.

Trust me, I'm not trying to be snobby here. I'm merely doing some very unscientific research for a thesis I hope to be writing soon.

Thanks!

PhilipG
09-18-2007, 03:47 PM
Actually, Southport - along with most seaside resorts - is classed as quite poor these days, on average.
I think I'd say Woolton is probably, on average, the richest area, but I'd love to know what others think.
For example, I don't think there are any poor areas in Formby.

Ged
09-18-2007, 04:22 PM
You could throw the whole coastline from Little Crosby up to the beginning of Southport into that lots too, Hightown, Freshfield, Ainsdale.... How about Caldy, Irby and Thurstaston on N. Wirral if you're including Heswall and Hoylake. Parts of Childwall too perhaps?

Cadfael
09-18-2007, 04:28 PM
Certain parts of Childwall are quite exclusive, moreso the end bordering Woolton where Childwall Park Avenue can command nearly up to £1mill.

Our family home used to be in Woolacombe Road and we sold that for £110,000 14 years ago. The same property today is now £325,000.

For me, I would say Woolton is the most exclusive when it comes to money, there are lots of detatched houses fetching well over £1mill in the right hands.

Ged
09-18-2007, 04:34 PM
I was up in your beloved Childwall Abbey Hotel sat night after I'd dropped my girls off to meet their mates, one of whom lives in Woolacombe.

Cadfael
09-18-2007, 05:31 PM
I was up in your beloved Childwall Abbey Hotel sat night after I'd dropped my girls off to meet their mates, one of whom lives in Woolacombe.

A small world my son :PDT_Aliboronz_24: I lived right behind Hope Uni (St Kath's college) and used to annoy the security guards somewhat :ninja:

miguel
09-18-2007, 10:55 PM
Definately Caldy: the wealth in property alone is awesome. I wouldn't be surprised if the average house price was a million plus. I was chatting with a very ordinary couple who explained where they lived in Caldy. Having an idea where their home was (not the most expensive) I erred on the side of caution and said: 'Must be valued at £500,000.'
Double it." the old boy said.
Forty years ago there was what's described in fiscal terms as three 'blue-chip' communities in England. Places where the properties are valued over a certain amount. Two of these communities were in the Home Counties. The other one. Caldy.
By the way several Liverpool FC players live there . . . and Benitez. His house is 'gulp' wonderful.

Howie
09-19-2007, 12:30 AM
Which of these areas in Merseyside would you say has the highest average household income:

Heswell, Wirral
Hoylake, Wirral
Southport
Formby
Woolton
Allerton (Calderstones Area)
Mossley Hill
Aigburth
Grassendale
Other?

Heswall, Wirral

taffy
09-19-2007, 08:50 AM
Which of these areas in Merseyside would you say has the highest average household income:



Trust me, I'm not trying to be snobby here. I'm merely doing some very unscientific research for a thesis I hope to be writing soon.

Thanks!

For Liverpool, all is revealed in this Liverpool City council Ward by Ward analysis

http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/Business/Economic_development/Key_statistics_and_data/Ward_profiles/index.asp

bdm
09-19-2007, 11:49 AM
Now remember, I'm not only asking about wealth, I'm also inquiring about "Old Money" neighbourhoods around Merseyside. I'm aware of certain areas where there are a bevy of new built McMansions, populated mainly by footballers, footballer wives, drug dealers, show business types, lottery winners, and common rabble like the rest of us who just happened to hit it big. Ostentatious displays of wealth, usually shows a lack of breeding, and thus are good indicaitors of new money. However, "new money" is not what I'm looking for. I'm more interested in looking at areas around Liverpool that are not only wealthy, but dignified and elegant in their ambiance. Again, old money is usually defined as people of means who've inherited money over several generations. More importantly, they not only hold wealth, power, prestige and priviledge, but they almost always are educated in the best public schools, as well as university training at Oxbridge. Thus, they usually have the class and the breeding to back up their wealth. These are the people I am most interested in finding where around Liverpool one would see them in large numbers. I am not only interested in what areas this class of people reside in Liverpool, I'm also curious as to which paricular local clubs and associations they would belong to here in town. Which Liverpool social events of the year would they most likely be seen at? What merchants and shops in Liverpool would they frequent? However, first and foremost, let's get back to where they live.

Again, I am not some sleazy social climber who's new in town and trying to hitch on a star. I wish. No, instead I am a poor postgraduate trying to solicit local opinions on matters I soon shall be writing a thesis. Thanks again!:034::rolleyes::unibrow:

miguel
09-19-2007, 03:18 PM
Bet you're a cat burglar. Can't fool us

Cadfael
09-19-2007, 03:53 PM
Although this thread looks at the current situation of Liverpool's districts, go back to the 1800's and look at places like Edge Hill. Now partially left to rot with abandoned pubs and buildings, this was once the area for the Gentry in and around Joseph Williamson's era.

Walk up Mason Street today and you're faced with deralict buildings, walk up Mason Street 200 years ago and you were shown massive 3/4 story mansions of all shape and size.

Ged
09-19-2007, 04:06 PM
Yes the same with Everton as merchants looked down from the ridge at their ships coming in (so much diverse housing as existed in Everton that it is to be the themed area in the new museum of Liverpool life - mansions, villas, terraces, tenements, high rise, estates. St. Anne street too was full of wealth, there was a bowling green behind the judges quarters, those dwellings becoming doss houses as the Gentry escaped to the South end as overcrowded slum courts and squalid cellar property encrouched too near.

PhilipG
09-19-2007, 07:46 PM
By "old money" I presume you mean the people who built mansions in places like Aigburth?
It looks like most of them had gone as early as the First World War.

gorgeous
09-20-2007, 12:10 AM
I'd have to along with Heswall , my brother lives there & some of the properties are to die for .I'd also go along with the majority of these properties being inherited ,

Personally i'd much prefare the likes of Cressington Park, one can wish ehh.

Howie
09-20-2007, 08:08 AM
WHAT are Merseyside’s most expensive areas to live?
Sep 20 2007
by David Bartlett, Liverpool Daily Post

VICTORIA Road, in Formby, may be known as Millionaire’s Row, but one area of Wirral is giving the footballer’s favourite in Sefton a run for its money.

Caldy, on the west side of the Wirral peninsula, sees the limited number of homes in the village routinely change hands for huge amounts, including several for more than £4m.

Last year, estate agent Paul Lea, of Bradshaw, Farnham and Lea, sold the three most expensive homes in Wirral, all in Caldy.

The village dates back to the late 17th century, and because of covenants on a lot of the homes the plots have to remain at least an acre in size.

The majority of the village was designated a conservation area in October, 1974.

Mr Lea said the area was popular because of the privacy the homes offered and a number also had views of the Dee estuary.

Another up and coming spot for the those at the higher end of the market is Rufford, in West Lancashire.

John Rider, property manager at the Kennedy Partnership, which covers West Lancashire, said the perennial favourite’s popularity increased with the opening of Tesco in Burscough in 2005.

Coupled with developments at Rufford’s marina, the village has become one of the most desirable places to buy in the area.

Source: Liverpool Daily Post (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/09/20/what-are-merseyside-s-most-expensive-areas-to-live-64375-19817045/)

Shapers
09-20-2007, 07:00 PM
Like of Freshfeilds and Birkdale have lovely houses, home to a few footballers, both active and retired.

lindylou
09-20-2007, 07:09 PM
Have you seen the houses in Hightown ! ? :eek:

that's an affluent area

Max
09-20-2007, 07:47 PM
I'd mention Hale as Hale was Merseyside until the 70's.

Some houses In that Village that look like you'd have to be loaded to live In.