Alsatian dogs in "fanlight" windows, 1950's,

[chasevans]

Growing up in Everton in the 1950's I remember a lot of houses with Alsatian (German shepherd) dog figurines in the "fanlight" window above the front door. My family didn't have a figurine although we did have an Alsation dog, Rex.

Traveling to Walton to visit my cousins they were less numerous. Was this a local Everton fashion of the 50's or was it something city wide?
Regards,
Chas ;)

[Ged]

In the early 70s we had 2 matching Alstation (that's how I said it) dog faces on a rounded plaque that hung on the wall either side of the mirror in the kitchen. By the way back then, the living room was called the kitchen and where you cooked was the back kitchen for some reason. I remember religious pictures hanging up too such as a 3d sacred heart and an our lord - in my parents bedroom. Don't forget the ash try on a stand with that knob you pressed down and the ash disappeared into the silver tray.

[chasevans]

So right, Ged, and the front room or parlour was off limits unless we had visitors. I still think of our kitchen as the back kitchen.
Chas:PDT11

[hmtmaj]

You forgot the Holy Water font, hanging in the hall
"Bless yourself before you go out" :PDT11

[lesley1]

I lived in Everton, and in our street you always saw Alsation dogs in the fanlights, I remember our next door neighbour was standing on a chair to polish her dog and dropped it, it broke into pieces and it was made of chalk, us kids had a field day using her dog to chalk in a hopscotch.

Talking about a holy water font, my mother-in-law has one in her hall and she blesses us all going in and out.

[chasevans]

You forgot the Holy Water font, hanging in the hall
"Bless yourself before you go out" :PDT11
Although my relatives are in the main RC I was brought up in the C of E faith. No holy water in our house, sorry Hmtmaj.
Regards,
Chas:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

[Ged]

You forgot the Holy Water font, hanging in the hall
"Bless yourself before you go out" :PDT11

Or on your way back in from the pub ;)

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So right, Ged, and the front room or parlour was off limits unless we had visitors. I still think of our kitchen as the back kitchen.
Chas:PDT11

Parlour - ha ha, not in the tennies mate lol.

[GeorgePorgie]

front room or parlour was off limits unless we had visitors.

Yep,it was for when me sisters were a courting and me when I got bored and take the budgie for a walk...used put a lazzy band round its body to trap its wings then stick the budgie on the gramphone turntable and turn it to 33rpm. :)

[Ged]

Your sisters had boyfriends and your bird was a budgie - classic :handclap:

[Marty1]

We were so skint we couldn't afford Holy Water !:eek:

[chasevans]

Parlour - ha ha, not in the tennies mate lol.
I'm sure you're right, Ged. Although I was born in Kempston St tennies( behind the Green Door), I can't remember a front room. I grew up in the Everton area from age 3. That's my first memories of a parlour. There were lots of houses that had parlours beside ours. When we moved to Heyworth St it was the same. I know that there were smaller dwellings of 2up, 2 down, but parlour houses are not a fagment of my menageration.
GeorgePorgie's confirmed my memory.
Cheers,
Chas:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

[GeorgePorgie]

Actually the origin of the Parlour was the living room and the other room was where you were supposed to have your dinner/tea,then things changed because of the noise kids made outside in the street and it became the norm for the living room to be at the back of the house. :)

[chasevans]

Can't argue with that, George, having been one of the kids playing football in back Rossy I can see the sense behind it.
I had a thought about the Alsatians. Were they the working class equivalent to the middle class aspidistra?
Chas:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

[gregs dad]

Never had a parlour but had mates who did, it was rarely used and kept tidy for visitors.There was usually a piano in there. The man of the house was allowed to read his Sunday papers in there

[Ged]

A couple of pics for Chas.

Kempston street refuse collector in 1933

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Back Rossy in 1965. I may have posted this one before on the Rossy thread


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[chasevans]

We had a piano that was kept locked, but I can remember my mam playing it at "do's". It's final tune was played on Bommy night 1958 or 59 as it was consigned to the bonfire in Back Rossy.
Our parlour had the usual glass cabinet. Pride of place was a small figure of Winston Churchill smoking a cigar. The cabinet contained Elizabeth 11 coronation memorabilia etc., together with the usual shire horse.
Still smoking after all these years.
Cheers gregs dad,
Chas:smoke:

[grekko]

We had a collie that was a pain.,called glassie.

[chasevans]

A couple of pics for Chas.

Kempston street refuse collector in 1933

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Back Rossy in 1965. I may have posted this one before on the Rossy thread


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The Kempston St pic is a corker. No wonder the fog in my days was so thick, how un-PC is the message on the horse cart? Shame I can't see the tenements clearly, I think we lived on the 3rd floor.
You're right, I did get the back Rossy pic off you a while ago.
Cheers,
Chas:PDT11

[ItsaZappathing]

Speaking of homes and things...
Homes and houses will be the subject on tomorrow nights Linda Mac show.:handclap:

[grekko]

Bin mans dog.22537 Click image to enlarge.

[chasevans]

Ruff,Ruff, Grecko,
Would that be Rin Tin Bin?
:D
Chas

[grekko]

Ruff,Ruff, Grecko,
Would that be Rin Tin Bin?
:D
Chas ....
Looks like me an you had same thought...great minds eh:PDT11

[chasevans]

:PDT11I'd say minds more grating than great, Gekko:PDT11

[Prefrab]

Ruff,Ruff, Grecko,
Would that be Rin Tin Bin?
:D
Chas
what a "waste" of a pun

[grekko]

what a "waste" of a pun

No, No, not more punishment !!:eek:

[collegepudding]

In our house the front room is still called the Parlour....... couldn't call it anything else.... wouldn't seem right.
The Kitchen used to be called the Back Kitchen,and mostly still is within the family,but to outsiders it is called the Kitchen..only because some people look at you funny if you prefix with Back :sad:

We never had the alsations but had plenty of small figures of cats won from the Fair in Newsham Park,along with plenty of goldfish carried home in those little see through plastic bags
:D

collegepudding

[grekko]

plenty of goldfish carried home in those little see through plastic bags
:D

collegepudding[/QUOTE]
Go nice with boil in the bag rice , cook 'em together.

[collegepudding]

plenty of goldfish carried home in those little see through plastic bags
:D

collegepudding
Go nice with boil in the bag rice , cook 'em together.[/QUOTE]

:eek::shock::smirk:


collegepudding

[GeorgePorgie]

The Kitchen was where the room were the firegrate was ie me ma cooked the dinner and boiled the water for washing and where we had a bath in front of(Tin Bath).
The Backitchen was where she done the laundry and washed the pots,pans,crockery in.

The firegrate
22544

[Oudeis]

Ah yes, Zebrite...

http://sandradodd.com/history/zebrite

[grekko]

Ah yes, Zebrite...

http://sandradodd.com/history/zebrite

I remember my mam using Zebo with a curved brush which I was amazed to discover you can still buy.
It fell out of use in my mam's house for polishing the range in the 50's but I found a use for it in the early 60's when I was in the forces, it brought my A.P boots to a brilliant shine.Even after leaving the R.A.F I continued using it on my black shoes but with moves over the years it ,along with many other items, got left behind somewhere. 22545

[Oudeis]

I used to wonder at the industry and effort of my mother trying to make a black thing more black. It had something to do with pride in the home, I suppose.

My, how far we have come from cooking on an open fire.

[lindylou]

In our house the front room is still called the Parlour....... couldn't call it anything else.... wouldn't seem right.
The Kitchen used to be called the Back Kitchen,and mostly still is within the family,but to outsiders it is called the Kitchen..only because some people look at you funny if you prefix with Back :sad:

We never had the alsations but had plenty of small figures of cats won from the Fair in Newsham Park,along with plenty of goldfish carried home in those little see through plastic bags
:D

collegepudding

Me and my mum still say parlour - which my husband finds highly amusing. :rolleyes:
.. and also because we say vestibule ! .. but we do have a vestibule - that's what it is called. The space between the front door and the door into your hallway - a vestibule ! :nod:

ps, Collegepudding, I always worried about the poor little fish in plastic bags. Very cruel,I hate to think what became of half of them. :sad: most people never knew how to look after fish properly - poor things stuck in a glass bowl.

[Ged]

Something else becoming a thing of the past.


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[grekko]

Something else becoming a thing of the past.


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Ah yes, the days when you could say in all innocence.....nice companion set your mum's got, any chance of a poke?

[lindylou]

Oh yes, I remember them ! :snf (41):

[Ged]

And putting the echo up against the dying fire to reignite it and watching through the paper as it flared up again almost swallowing the paper which had to be quickly dragged away.

[lindylou]

And putting the echo up against the dying fire to reignite it and watching through the paper as it flared up again almost swallowing the paper which had to be quickly dragged away.

I remember my dad doing that.

I used to watch him making up the fire, first of all he would rake over the old coals and ash, then he'd use the hoover to suck up surplus ash.

One day, I thought I'd be a big help ( I was only about 7 or 8) .. and I attempted to hoover out the old ash - - only I'd switched the hoover onto 'blow' instead of suction mode --- :surprised :retard: OMG ! pandemonium ! there was a fine layer of ash all over the living room !! :PDT_Xtremez_42:

[chasevans]

I used to wonder at the industry and effort of my mother trying to make a black thing more black. It had something to do with pride in the home, I suppose.

My, how far we have come from cooking on an open fire.
An old saying " The devil finds work for idle hands" was often quoted at that time, maybe it's still relevant today.
I never got used to the "stewed tea" taste, but meat/ veg cooked in the oven side was lovely and tender( and maybe added a little iron to our mealtimes).
Chas:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

[Ged]

We used to do toast on extended forks in front of the coal fire.

[GeorgePorgie]

22546

[chasevans]

Is it Paganini's "The Devil's Trill"?:handclap:

[Marty1]

a vestibule !

Thanks Lindy, now I know I will use it, for a laugh ! Scullery is another word I heard used in a lot Ireland !

[chasevans]

Our back room had a "larder" . I remember it being called the pantry sometimes. It had a small metallic grill to keep flies out in the summer and we used this room to keep cheeses and meats fresh. It was always cool in there, probably due to it's location in the middle of the house, with the cellar running underneath and the stairs being overhead.
Chas:PDT11.

[lindylou]

Our back room had a "larder" . I remember it being called the pantry sometimes. It had a small metallic grill to keep flies out in the summer and we used this room to keep cheeses and meats fresh. It was always cool in there, probably due to it's location in the middle of the house, with the cellar running underneath and the stairs being overhead.
Chas:PDT11.

Yes, that's where ours was - under the stairs.

[Marty1]

What about coal-hole, we had our coal dumped under the stairs which led from the back kitchen !

[chasevans]

What about coal-hole, we had our coal dumped under the stairs which led from the back kitchen !
We had a grid at the front of the house that could be lifted to dump the coal into the cellar. For some reason we sometimes used a section of our back yard for coal storing, I think it may be due to the coal man's hailing coming from the front or back.

[Marty1]

The Coalman came up the hall through our Kitchen out into the back Kitchen with a bloody Sack of Coal, as he dumped it the stour of dust landed everywhere and him as black as F***.

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We used to do toast on extended forks in front of the coal fire.

Aye, for Sunday Lunch too !

[Ged]

When we lived in one lot of tenements, there was a coal chute next to the front door and the coal was tipped into here which was basically a cupboard and accessed from inside the house, the hallway or lobby as we called it.

In another part of Gerard Gardens we didn't have a chute but the coal was tipped directly into the cupboard which could only be accessed by the coal man actually coming into the lobby.

We also had one of those round sieves and my dad would shovel the coal onto it and sieve the 'slack' out of it so that only the large lumps of coal - or sometimes coke was put on the fire.

[chasevans]

The Coalman came up the hall through our Kitchen out into the back Kitchen with a bloody Sack of Coal, as he dumped it the stour of dust landed everywhere and him as black as F***.

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Aye, for Sunday Lunch too !
:handclap::D:handclap:
Marty, happy days,

We couldn't afford bread, so me dad would slap a piece of lard on a chunk of cardboard, if it were our birthday he,d give us a scraping of coal dust on top.
Chas:005::005:

[Marty1]

We couldn't afford bread, so me dad would slap a piece of lard on a chunk of cardboard, if it were our birthday he,d give us a scraping of coal dust on top.

What's Lard Chas ? You lot sound very Posh to me :lol:

[GeorgePorgie]

What's Lard Chas ?

The stuff yer fried yer bread with. :)

[Oudeis]

Toasting forks go with rattan carpet beaters, when the rug would be hung over the washing line.

My mistake (first?) when helping rekindle the fire was to do the shovelling of the ash from under the great.

"I'll just tip it in this bucket mum?...No, NO!!...not from that height...too late."

The ash made a very satisfying muffled 'krumph' sound as it hit the bucket bottom...and then billowed out all over the room.
"You're as bad as Scouse Linda!" Could have been the cry. ;)

[Marty1]

satisfying muffled 'krumph'

Yes Oudeis, and not a very nice taste either !

[lindylou]

the stour of dust landed everywhere


Here's me thinking I'm good at English ! - - but I had to look that word up ! I've never heard of the word stour :surprised http://www.yourdictionary.com/stour

[Marty1]

Thought I'd look it up myself, I don't know where it came from !:confused:

[lindylou]

:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

[collegepudding]

Me and my mum still say parlour - which my husband finds highly amusing. :rolleyes:
.. and also because we say vestibule ! .. but we do have a vestibule - that's what it is called. The space between the front door and the door into your hallway - a vestibule ! :nod:

ps, Collegepudding, I always worried about the poor little fish in plastic bags. Very cruel,I hate to think what became of half of them. :sad: most people never knew how to look after fish properly - poor things stuck in a glass bowl.


Hi lindy.

would you believe it, the fair is at Newsham Park from tomorrow until Monday......probably complete with fish in bags aswell :eek:


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collegepudding

[Diane Louise]

My poor grandparents had cockroaches but thank goodness I never saw any!

[Oudeis]

My poor grandparents had cockroaches but thank goodness I never saw any!

Cockroaches?

Such is a real sign of affluence. Domestic vermin, the tell-tale sign of plenty, would only consider living in a veritable palace of warmth and plenty. ;)

Silver fish, on the other hand...

[Marty1]

My poor grandparents had cockroaches but thank goodness I never saw any!

We had lot's of cockroaches and mice, oh yes, and nits, fleas, never had a cat though !

[Diane Louise]

We had lot's of cockroaches and mice, oh yes, and nits, fleas, never had a cat though !

You seem to have had the lot!

I had nits and my mum combed my hair into newspaper, how gross but I never heard of any lads getting them! The nit comb broke the blighters backs!

[collegepudding]

My poor grandparents had cockroaches but thank goodness I never saw any!


I worked on an empty property conversion in Anfield road a few years back and the place was swarming with the horrible little things......i disappeared for a few weeks until the pest control had done their stuff


collegepudding

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We had lot's of cockroaches and mice, oh yes, and nits, fleas, never had a cat though !


Never mind not having a cat,with that lot did you have any friends!:rolleyes:


collegepudding

[Marty1]

Never mind not having a cat,with that lot did you have any friends!

HaHa, I thought it was normal !


The nit comb broke the blighters backs!

You almost make it sound like cruelty to nits !

[Diane Louise]

[QUOTE=collegepudding;359440]I worked on an empty property conversion in Anfield road a few years back and the place was swarming with the horrible little things......i disappeared for a few weeks until the pest control had done their stuff


collegepudding

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My grandparents never got rid of them!

[collegepudding]

[QUOTE=Marty1;359442]HaHa, I thought it was normal !


:eek::shock::)



collegepudding

[Diane Louise]

HaHa, I thought it was normal !



You almost make it sound like cruelty to nits !

I was very pleased that their little back were broken! I think everyone had them but of course children still get them today although mine didn't have them thank goodness!

[collegepudding]

My grandparents never got rid of them![/QUOTE]

my God ! Dianne. My heart goes out to them.......thank goodness their appearances are rare nowadays


collegepudding

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Another place i had to work in was a large house split into 11 bedsits full of asylum seekers off Lodge lane.....in each room they had these sheets of sticky paper on the floor to catch the orrible little things with,,,,eeeehh !

as soon as i got home that day it was strip off....clothes straight into the washing machine...shoes left outside and dive straight into the shower!


collegepudding

[Sydernee]

My poor grandparents had cockroaches but thank goodness I never saw any!

We have plenty of cockroaches here in Sydney.
Some of them look more like a workmans boot scurrying across the floor than an insect.
They make a bloody mess when you squash em too.:unibrow:

Pud:ninja:

[lindylou]

Collegepudding,

re photos of the fairground. Lots of memories for me of teenage days spent at Newsham Park fair :celb (23):

[Marty1]

There used to be a travelling fair down by Fox st in the 60s too !

[grekko]

You just don't seem to see more than a few of the old type travelling fairs. Once upon a time they would turn up at the same sites regular as clockwork, could it be the work of the Stealth and Hafety dictators?

[Marty1]

More than likely grekko, the fairs were just lashed up in no time, they were great fun, I never heard of many accidents although I know that doesn't matter to the dicks that want to keep us safe.

[Diane Louise]

We have plenty of cockroaches here in Sydney.
Some of them look more like a workmans boot scurrying across the floor than an insect.
They make a bloody mess when you squash em too.:unibrow:

Pud:ninja:

You seem to have all the nasty insects and reptiles!

[Marty1]

You seem to have all the nasty insects and reptiles!

We have more than enough here only we call them politicians, Reptile is better though !

[Diane Louise]

We have more than enough here only we call them politicians, Reptile is better though !

Ah yes but I wouldn't like to live with the Black Widow or crocs in the garden!

[collegepudding]

Collegepudding,

re photos of the fairground. Lots of memories for me of teenage days spent at Newsham Park fair :celb (23):

Yes happy days eh! lindy, The fair is still situated,as always, at the Lister drive end of the park next to Donkeys Hill,and when they move out the site, as always, will resemble a furrowed field but it seems to recover ok. I remember the stall where you had to throw three darts at a board full of playing cards,and if you scored 21 you would win a prize...trouble was the darts strangely enough, :rolleyes: were always blunt and more often than not even if you hit the correct cards the dart just bounced back out :sad: strangely enough we tended to go back for another go later on :034:


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