Help with a Liverpool ghosts and hauntings book

[johnreppion]

Hi all,
As some of you might already have read in this thread (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5607), I'm currently working on some sample chapters for a book about Liverpool's ghosts and hauntings (not in any way connected to Tom Slemen's work).

I'd love to hear from anyone who has any ghostly accounts of their own to share or some haunted places they'd like to recommend for inclusion.

I'm aiming to make the book as factual as possible, including as much of the documented history of the buildings/areas/people as I can find and interviewing witnesses personally if possible.

Obviously, I can't give too much away about what I'm working on but, if you're interested in seeing a sample of my work, you can read my article about The Childe Of Hale on the Fortean Times website HERE (http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/146/the_childe_of_hale.html)

Thanks in advance for your help.

Cheers.

[DaisyChains]

hiya
I am sorry to be vague, but I know one of the houses on Princes Avenue/Road were haunted.
I am sure it's near Princes Park gates somewhere

[johnreppion]

I found mention of a poltergeist in Madryn Street (one of the Welsh Streets) during the 90's online but, other than that, the only haunted Toxteth stuff I've turned up thus far is some of Tom Slemen's work (which I definitely don't want to use as a source).

[SteveFaragher]

Tell tom what you want to hear and he'll make sure the story fits wahtever you want,

[johnreppion]

Tell tom what you want to hear and he'll make sure the story fits whatever you want.Yeah well, I certainly have no intention of questioning the validity of Mr. Slemen's work publically - he's written a lot of books and articles and people are obviously interested in what he has to say. However, many of the stories he writes (especially those related to hauntings and anomalies) are very difficult to find other evidence for (such as newspaper articles, etc). Also, all of his work is copywrited so, even if I did want to use him as a source, I couldn't.

At the moment I'm specifically interested in any hauntings or ghostly encounters in north and east Liverpool. Haunted pubs anyone? Some of you must know a landlord or two surely? :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

[PhilipG]

A lot of people have a deep-seated need to believe in the fantastic (and unbelievable).
I don't understand this need, but it prevents them from attempting to listen to any sort of logical explanation for their outrageous claims.
I suppose it's best not to try to enter into a "discussion" with them.

[johnreppion]

A lot of people have a deep-seated need to believe in the fantastic (and unbelievable).
I don't understand this need, but it prevents them from attempting to listen to any sort of logical explanation for their outrageous claims.
I suppose it's best not to try to enter into a "discussion" with them.Not quite sure what promoted that Phil as no one's actually made any fantastic claims here (more's the pity). I've got no particular beliefs of my own concerning ghosts and the supernatural but I think that strange or unexplained phenomena can often be very interesting. I'm all for investigating such cases, I don't think things should just be blindly believed. However, if someone genuinely believes they have had a supernatural experience then it's a reality to them and I'm definitely not in favor of trying to talk people out of their beliefs, however much I might disagree.

[Ged]

The Punch Bowl in Thornton, Sefton is supposed to be one of the most haunted pubs in Britain but the only spirits I've ever seen in there were behind the bar on a shelf. Perhaps only certain susceptible people are privy to seeing them, of which i'm not one.

[Cadfael]

Funny this thread has come up while I've been watching a DVD with Richard Felix and his UK Ghost Tour.

For what it's worth, I have seen a ghost - or something that would explain it as a ghost and it scared the crap out of me, but at the same time, gave me comfort that there is something in the afterlife. I can recall the story like it was yesterday and am a rational person who just wasnt expecting what I saw.

Believing in ghosts has nothing to do with religion at all or the need for something fantastic. But I also believe that some people don't have the (if this is the right word), 'ability' to ever see a ghost.

If you think ghosts don't exist (and people are welcome to believe what they see until they are proved othewise), take a dog in to a well known haunted location and see how they react. They'll normally chew through their own leg to get out of there.

[Ged]

Tell us more Jona (if you wanna)

I'm a sceptic but open minded all the same (mainly because my missus said she's seen one and when she enquired about it to her parents/grandparents when they were all living together - it was hushed up) besides, she'd kill me if I called her a liar.

She's been told at a reading that she is 'spiritual/open to these things' without her mentioning it. (though don't get me started on mediums or psychics either ha ha)

The thing is, I don't necessarily believe that these ghosts or people who have passed on have the choice or not whether they make a re-show. My dad told me he'd show back up if possible, he was very philisophical about his impending death (even arranging his own wake, funeral and thank you verse) , - he hasn't shown so far and it's been 19 years, perhaps a ghost is in turmoil?

[Cadfael]

Happened around the time of my nan's death. I was taking a drink in the kitchen in our house. We live in a small semi so the downstairs rooms are the lounge and the kitchen/diner is another room.

By the sink there is a window and the blind was pulled down. The only light that was on was in the lounge and all blinds downstairs were pulled.

I was the only chap in the house and was getting a drink when going up to bed when I noticed a figure (shadow of a person) move across the window. At first I thought that there was someone outside and they were going to break in (good luck to em!) but then the shadow then moved to the inside wall next to the window - so it would be impossible to be cast from outside directly. There was no one in the house and there was no one walking past outside as the blinds were pulled. I started to go very cold at this point - not because of what I had seen, but the room got cold - I sensed I had seen something strange and naffed off to bed quick time!

The next night, I set up the blinds like it was the previous night and noticed that I could recreate the shadow when I walked in the lounge but could only cast part of the shadow on the inner wall - whatever it was had clearly either gone through the kitchen or was walking in the lounge casting the shadow.

To this day I've no idea what it was, but I can tell you that it was the figure of someone's shadow going past me.

[ChrisGeorge]

The Punch Bowl in Thornton, Sefton is supposed to be one of the most haunted pubs in Britain but the only spirits I've ever seen in there were behind the bar on a shelf. Perhaps only certain susceptible people are privy to seeing them, of which i'm not one.


Interesting story, Cadfael. Thanks so much for sharing it. I would be inclined to think that you really did experience something.

In regard to your post, Ged, similarly when I toured part of Battlecrease House, the former Maybrick mansion on Riversdale Road, Aigburth, at the time of the 2003 Ripper convention at the Adelphi, the tenant told us that he had experienced something when he drank Stella Artois! A facetious reply, of course.

Chris

[johnreppion]

The Punch Bowl in Thornton, Sefton is supposed to be one of the most haunted pubs in Britain but the only spirits I've ever seen in there were behind the bar on a shelf. Perhaps only certain susceptible people are privy to seeing them, of which i'm not one.Cheers Ged, I'll look into that.:PDT_Piratz_26:

[johnreppion]

Happened around the time of my nan's death. I was taking a drink in the kitchen in our house. We live in a small semi so the downstairs rooms are the lounge and the kitchen/diner is another room.

By the sink there is a window and the blind was pulled down. The only light that was on was in the lounge and all blinds downstairs were pulled.

I was the only chap in the house and was getting a drink when going up to bed when I noticed a figure (shadow of a person) move across the window. At first I thought that there was someone outside and they were going to break in (good luck to em!) but then the shadow then moved to the inside wall next to the window - so it would be impossible to be cast from outside directly. There was no one in the house and there was no one walking past outside as the blinds were pulled. I started to go very cold at this point - not because of what I had seen, but the room got cold - I sensed I had seen something strange and naffed off to bed quick time!

The next night, I set up the blinds like it was the previous night and noticed that I could recreate the shadow when I walked in the lounge but could only cast part of the shadow on the inner wall - whatever it was had clearly either gone through the kitchen or was walking in the lounge casting the shadow.

To this day I've no idea what it was, but I can tell you that it was the figure of someone's shadow going past me.Thanks for sharing that Cadfael. It's funny just how many people seem to have had these smaller, urban experiences. I think it's stuff that gets written off very often but there must be a reason why people remember these experiences years later. Whereabouts were you living at the time by the way?

[johnreppion]

By the way, my proposal was accepted so I'm definitely writing the book now. All help greatly appreciated.

[Cadfael]

Thanks for sharing that Cadfael. It's funny just how many people seem to have had these smaller, urban experiences. I think it's stuff that gets written off very often but there must be a reason why people remember these experiences years later. Whereabouts were you living at the time by the way?

Living in the family home. My nan always wanted to be cremated in our back garden so we scattered the ashes in a dark corner.

The only other experience that my family have had is that both my grandad and my aunty have seen my late father on two occasions after he passed away in 1983. They were both level and would have not concocted any story to upset us kids if it wasn't true.

Although ghosts are not to do with religion, I believe in the afterlife purely because I know (or at least want to know) that I'll meet up with my family members again someday.

[verdi]

Have not had any encounters as such myself. But was told about the Madryn street one by the man who it happened to !! It is a interesting and funny story, concerning a wardrobe?? :shock:

[johnreppion]

Have not had any encounters as such myself. But was told about the Madryn street one by the man who it happened to !! It is a interesting and funny story, concerning a wardrobe?? :shock:Really? :eek: Is there any chance you could pout me in touch with the man in question or that you could recount his story to me? I've not been able to find much out on that one at all. You can send me a message on here or my email is haunted_liverpool@btinternet.com.

Cheers.

[Wallasey Al]

I don't know if you have written the book or what? I saw a ghost in my old house years ago. It wasn't until some years later that my brother said he saw it all the time. He had never said anything about it until then.

I did tell a certain Mr Slemen this story but when I read his version, I had changed into a female (ouch) and the whole story had been changed. I don't know the copyright laws but the true story has not been told.

[Ged]

Ha ha, If the whole story had been changed, then it clearly wasn't your one.

Unless....... da ra daaaar.

We now have first hand evidence of ghoulie tinkering ;)

[Max]

I don't know if you have written the book or what? I saw a ghost in my old house years ago. It wasn't until some years later that my brother said he saw it all the time. He had never said anything about it until then.

I did tell a certain Mr Slemen this story but when I read his version, I had changed into a female (ouch) and the whole story had been changed. I don't know the copyright laws but the true story has not been told.

Did you describe you as some woman out of a fairy tale with gorgeous red hair and a little freckle?:eek:

[Wallasey Al]

Oh dear not put my case very well have I? I meant it was my story but he had tinkered with it no doubt so that I couldn't claim copyright or any credit. As if I would but it is annoying.

Just the names and locations have been changed to protect ..... well it isn't the innocent put it that way.

You are Tom S and I claim my five bob!! :ninja:

[Ged]

There is a thread on T.S. read it and his books and determine if any real credibility is to be given.

[johnreppion]

Alright Al, currently putting the finishing touches to the book. Not much room left (especially for stuff that's outside of Liverpool and just in Merseyside generally) but I'd love to hear your story. You can email me at haunted_liverpool@btinternet.com or PM me on here.

Cheers

[johnreppion]

Right, I have finished the book; the manuscript and images are winging their way towards the publisher as I type.

Thanks to everyone here who has helped with Haunted Liverpool, I genuinely could not have written it without your assistance.

I've set up a blog at www.hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com (http://www.hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com) which has an abridged piece from the book up already. Please take a look and let me know what you think. I hope to get it a bit more sorted quite soon so do keep checking.

Thanks again

Cheers.

[DaisyChains]

Right, I have finished the book; the manuscript and images are winging their way towards the publisher as I type.

Thanks to everyone here who has helped with Haunted Liverpool, I genuinely could not have written it without your assistance.

I've set up a blog at www.hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com (http://www.hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com) which has an abridged piece from the book up already. Please take a look and let me know what you think. I hope to get it a bit more sorted quite soon so do keep checking.



Cheers.

good stuff.
Please let us know when it's out!
Thanks again

[johnreppion]

good stuff.
Please let us know when it's out!
Thanks again
Will do. ;)

[johnreppion]

I am very pleased to report that I am now taking pre-orders for the the special edition of 800 Years of Haunted Liverpool (limited to 26 lettered and 24 numbered copies) featuring an exclusive bookplate by artist Mo Ali and signed by myself.

Also included is a special bonus article “The Underground Empire of Joseph Williamson” in the form of a handmade booklet signed by myself and its illustrator Leah Moore.

Each volume costs £9.99 (plus postage and packing).

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Click on the banner above to reserve your copy (books will ship in early July 2008).

Cheers. :D

[johnreppion]

I'm also trying to get a launch sorted for late June in the city center. I'd be made up if some you would be interested in coming; the people on this forum have been an enormous help in writing the book and I'm very grateful to all of you.

[Cadfael]

I am very pleased to report that I am now taking pre-orders for the the special edition of 800 Years of Haunted Liverpool (limited to 26 lettered and 24 numbered copies) featuring an exclusive bookplate by artist Mo Ali and signed by myself.

Also included is a special bonus article “The Underground Empire of Joseph Williamson” in the form of a handmade booklet signed by myself and its illustrator Leah Moore.

Each volume costs £9.99 (plus postage and packing).

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm319/hauntedliverpool/Haunted-Liverpool-banner.gif (http://moorereppion.bigcartel.com/product/pre-order-800-years-of-haunted-liverpool-limited-edition)

Click on the banner above to reserve your copy (books will ship in early July 2008).

Cheers. :D

Be interesting to read your Williamson book seeing as the last one was utter tripe. Did you get your sources from the usual places, Richard WE, Charles Hand, James Stonehouse?

[johnreppion]

Be interesting to read your Williamson book seeing as the last one was utter tripe. Did you get your sources from the usual places, Richard WE, Charles Hand, James Stonehouse?Which last one is that then?

[Cadfael]

Which last one is that then?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/1411617924/ref=dp_olp_2

'Years of research'. And 99% of it 'hearsay' and 'stories'. :rolleyes:

[johnreppion]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/1411617924/ref=dp_olp_2

'Years of research'. And 99% of it 'hearsay' and 'stories'. :rolleyes:Oh, I hadn't heard of that before. I take it you wouldn't recommend it then? :unibrow:

My little article is unlikely to knock the socks off anyone already familiar with Mr. Williamson and his life's work. It's an updated version of an piece that was originally published in Strange Attractor Volume Three back in 2006. Hopefully, it will be an interesting and pleasant little bonus though, especially with the new illustrations and everything.

So far as getting my sources from the "usual places" goes; yeah, I suppose I did looking at the short list you've given. My end notes/references for the original article read thusly:


[1] Charles R. Hand: Joseph Williamson “The King Of Edge Hill” (Transactions of the Historical Society of Lancashire and Cheshire 1927).
[2] The Story (www.williamsonstunnels.com).
[3] The Story (www.williamsonstunnels.com).
[4] Richard Whittington-Egan: Joseph Williamson Maker Of Catacombs.
[5] Richard Whittington-Egan: Joseph Williamson Maker Of Catacombs.
[6] The Story (www.williamsonstunnels.com).
[7] The Story (www.williamsonstunnels.com).
[8] Richard Whittington-Egan: Joseph Williamson Maker Of Catacombs.
[9] James Stonehouse: The Streets Of Liverpool (1869).
[10] Richard Whittington-Egan: Joseph Williamson Maker Of Catacombs.
[11] James Stonehouse: The Streets Of Liverpool (1869).
[12] The Story (www.williamsonstunnels.com).
[13] Charles R. Hand: Joseph Williamson “The King Of Edge Hill” (Transactions of the Historical Society of Lancashire and Cheshire 1927).
[14] Charles R. Hand: Joseph Williamson “The King Of Edge Hill” (Transactions of the Historical Society of Lancashire and Cheshire 1927).
[15] Tom Slemen: Haunted Liverpool 2, page 59 (Bluecoat Press, Liverpool 2000).
[16] Charles R. Hand: Joseph Williamson “The King Of Edge Hill” (Transactions of the Historical Society of Lancashire and Cheshire 1927).
[17] Email interview with Frank Hodges (FOWT Company Secretary and Membership Secretary).
[18] Email interview with Frank Hodges (FOWT Company Secretary and Membership Secretary).
[19] The Story (www.williamsonstunnels.com).
[20] FOWT Information Pack, page 20 (2001).

With thanks to Chris Sharples (FOWT Chairman) for all his assistance.

[Cadfael]

Oh, I hadn't heard of that before. I take it you wouldn't recommend it then? :unibrow:

My little article is unlikely to knock the socks off anyone already familiar with Mr. Williamson and his life's work. It's an updated version of an piece that was originally published in Strange Attractor Volume Three back in 2006. Hopefully, it will be an interesting and pleasant little bonus though, especially with the new illustrations and everything.

So far as getting my sources from the "usual places" goes; yeah, I suppose I did looking at the short list you've given. My end notes/references for the original article read thusly:

You've gone to some good sources there. I know Chris and Frank personally (via the FOWT) so they'll have given lots of information and of course the website is a wealth of information too.

I'm in the middle of doing 'the' book on Williamson and the Tunnels too at the moment. I've been a guide at the Paddington/House section for many years now and saw the Heritage Centre when it was still the Stable Yard (see my www.smithdownlane.com)

Good luck with it! :PDT11

[fortinian]

I don't hold much hope for your book Cad if your research techniques led you to believe Researchwriter was David Clensy - a bloke who lives in Bristol and seems to live his life exclusively for his own self-promotion. :D

[Cadfael]

I don't hold much hope for your book Cad if your research techniques led you to believe Researchwriter was David Clensy - a bloke who lives in Bristol and seems to live his life exclusively for his own self-promotion. :D


I've not once said that RW is David Clensy??

[ChrisGeorge]

I've not once said that RW is David Clensy??

In fact, going by his new blog on Haunted Liverpool (http://www.hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com/), researchwriter is John Reppion, described as a "Freelance writer of articles, short stories and comic books."

Chris

[fortinian]

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I am very pleased to report that I am now taking pre-orders for the the special edition of 800 Years of Haunted Liverpool (limited to 26 lettered and 24 numbered copies) featuring an exclusive bookplate by artist Mo Ali and signed by myself.

Also included is a special bonus article “The Underground Empire of Joseph Williamson” in the form of a handmade booklet signed by myself and its illustrator Leah Moore.

Each volume costs £9.99 (plus postage and packing).



Click on the banner above to reserve your copy (books will ship in early July 2008).

Cheers.


Be interesting to read your Williamson book seeing as the last one was utter tripe. Did you get your sources from the usual places, Richard WE, Charles Hand, James Stonehouse?

Maybe I mis-read this Cad. I thought you implied that RWs last book was utter tripe - then linked to David Clensys book page!

I haven't seen Clensys book or RWs but i'm looking forward to it.

__________________

[Cadfael]

Maybe I mis-read this Cad. I thought you implied that RWs last book was utter tripe - then linked to David Clensys book page!

I haven't seen Clensys book or RWs but i'm looking forward to it.


Haha you really think I would insult another member of Yo as direct as that?

Nope, you've misread, I've only seen DC's book and THAT was tripe.
RW clearly has researched information on the new book and I'm looking forward to a read of that.

:PDT11

[fortinian]

Ho ho... sorry Cad! I thought it was a little out of character for you to insult someone like that, I got rather defensive on RWs part!

[johnreppion]

Blimey! Sorry to have caused any confusion chaps. My name is John Reppion as Chris rightly said. Thanks for jumping in anyway Fortinian, nice to know who's on your side if it comes to a fight. And cheers to you too Cadfael, I didn't know you were involved with the FOWT. Make sure you keep us up to date with the book too, I'll look forward to that.

[Cadfael]

Blimey! Sorry to have caused any confusion chaps. My name is John Reppion as Chris rightly said. Thanks for jumping in anyway Fortinian, nice to know who's on your side if it comes to a fight. And cheers to you too Cadfael, I didn't know you were involved with the FOWT. Make sure you keep us up to date with the book too, I'll look forward to that.

:hug: all round hehe.

Yeah, I've been in every accessible part of the network, including the Triple Decker tunnel - which about 20 people have ever seen since the 1800's.
Any other info you need, shout!

[johnreppion]

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800 Years of Haunted Liverpool will be officially launched at the Unity Theatre (http://www.unitytheatreliverpool.co.uk/findus.htm) in Liverpool on Saturday the 5th of July 2008 between 6 and 8pm. The Unity bar is fully licensed with Cains Bitter (http://www.cains.co.uk/index/articles_view.php?main_cat=1&cat_id=44&article_id=34&logger_name=Cains%20Finest%20Bitter) on tap *slurp*.

I'll do my very best to give a short talk giving a bit of background on how the book came about and what it was like to work on. Limited edition copies of 800 Years of Haunted Liverpool will also be on sale for £9.99.

If you do plan on coming, please post here or drop me an email at haunted_liverpool@btinternet.com, as places will be limited.

Looking forward to seeing you there!

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Also, if you're still undecided as to whether you fancy investing in a copy of the 800 Years..., you can pick up a copy of Fortean Times Magazine #238 (http://www.forteantimes.com/) at the end of this month which will feature an excerpt from the book all about the infamous Spring Heeled Jack and his visits to Liverpool.

More info and updates over at www.hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com

Cheers! :D

[ChrisGeorge]

Very good, John. Good luck with the book launch! :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

I've given your book a plug on a couple of Ripper forums.

Chris

[johnreppion]

Very good, John. Good luck with the book launch! :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

I've given your book a plug on a couple of Ripper forums.

ChrisCheers Chris, very much appreciated. :PDT11

[Ged]

Good luck John. Though i'm sceptical of such things, there's a place for everything and there's nothing like a good ghost story and I see at least you've tried to verify your findings.

[johnreppion]

Good luck John. Though i'm sceptical of such things, there's a place for everything and there's nothing like a good ghost story and I see at least you've tried to verify your findings.Thanks Ged.

I'm not exactly a "believer" myself but I try to keep an open mind. With this book I've simply taken people at their word and reported what they've told me of their experiences. Then I've tried to look at the history surrounding the happenings (if any exists) and place the whole thing in context. It's as much a book about local history as anything really.

[AntiPathos]

Well done on getting this published. I suppose CoC helped some(?). I've read a few bits you have written and it's clear that you do know how to assemble words on pages in a thoroughly legible manner.

It's a pity that this isn't listed on Amazon because I have really been looking forward to another dazzling review by "Cryptid Frank (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/pdp/profile/A3UP8I3J94TCDJ/ref=cm_cr_dp_pdp)", whose views of other Liverpool author's books are so enlightening. Frankie doesn't much like other people writing about Liverpool and it's ghosts but he sure loves his Tom Slemen books!!!

Hang on a minute. . . No, surely not ... it can't be. Can it? He wouldn't. Would he? Nah... That's beneath him.

...or is it? :)

AP.

[Ged]

I wouldn't bank on the CoC having had anything to do with it, and I speak from experience.

[johnreppion]

I've read a few bits you have written and it's clear that you do know how to assemble words on pages in a thoroughly legible manner.Thank you, that's what I'm aiming for. ;)

Should be listed on Amazon by the time of the launch I think. Looking forward to seeing what "Cryptid Frank" thinks of it (I'll get my pinch of salt ready).

No help from the CoC with the book in terms of getting it written or published but maybe the interest might help sales a bit (I can dream).

Anyone fancy a pint in the Unity on the 5th of July then? :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

[Ged]

I would but for being at a wedding at SFX but good luck with it.

[johnreppion]

I would but for being at a wedding at SFX but good luck with it.Ah well, that's a decent enough excuse I suppose. I'll let you off.

[spooky]

Hi all if you want to so see some of toms stories reinacted then book a ghost walk in conjunction with freshfields animal rescue centre, i went the other night it was great got the details off the animal charity website www.freshfieldsrescue.org bring a torch the walk arround the cemetary is very spooky...thats strange because thats my name !!!!!!!

[johnreppion]

Hi all if you want to so see some of toms stories reinacted then book a ghost walk in conjunction with freshfields animal rescue centre, i went the other night it was great got the details off the animal charity website www.freshfieldsrescue.org bring a torch the walk arround the cemetary is very spooky...thats strange because thats my name !!!!!!!I think you've got the wrong Haunted Liverpool thread here Spooky. Now then, for MY haunted walking tour... no, I'm only kidding. Good luck to Mr Slemen and, of course, it's all for a worthy cause.

By the way, did I mention this? Book launch. Unity Theatre. 5th July. 6-8 pm. Hope to see you there. ;)

[Ged]

I see Tom sl-ags off the Shiverpool tour on his homepage. Hmmm.

[fortinian]

That's like Kev saying: 'YoLiverpool does not recommend icLiverpool'

Is little Tommy feeling threatened?

[johnreppion]

Only a few days to go until the launch now. Really hope to see some of you there in spite of the Doctor Who finale clashing (we all use Sky+ or BBCi now anyway don't we? Or there's always the video of course).

[johnreppion]

All pre-ordered limited editions have been posted out today so, if you bought one (thanks if you did) you can expect a book in the next few days. :PDT_Piratz_26:

[crusoe]

Yes indeed, the book arrived this morning all numbered and signed and all, and looks very interesting - looking forward to starting to read it around midnight or so when the candles burn down low... Thanks John!

[sohel1]

There is an awful lot that I do know, privately within my family and I wish sometimes it were known publicly of the mental torment and heartbreak endured to my great grandparents and grandparents and great uncles during the trial and after Uncle Georgie's execution. To this day we still carry the scars and heartache in many different ways.

[AntiPathos]

There is an awful lot that I do know, privately within my family and I wish sometimes it were known publicly of the mental torment and heartbreak endured to my great grandparents and grandparents and great uncles during the trial and after Uncle Georgie's execution. To this day we still carry the scars and heartache in many different ways.

Why the quote from Emma Gill and why in this thread ?

[johnreppion]

Yes indeed, the book arrived this morning all numbered and signed and all, and looks very interesting - looking forward to starting to read it around midnight or so when the candles burn down low... Thanks John!Thanks crusoe, I really hope you enjoy it. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

[johnreppion]

Why the quote from Emma Gill and why in this thread ?Yeah, a bit random that. Spam?

[Max]

I buy the Fortean Times each month and sometimes post on their forum.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Not read the article yet but like the old photos of Everton In the article.

[johnreppion]

I buy the Fortean Times each month and sometimes post on their forum.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:Then you're a better man than I; I've been trying for years to get their message board to work. I've had dozens of confirmation emails and can sometimes log in and SEE the posts but I've never actually been allowed to post anything. :neutral:


Not read the article yet but like the old photos of Everton In the article.Yeah, they look good don't they? That was actually FT's doing - nice bit of research on their part.

[Singlesnights]

Hi,

Very interested to read your post. I am the Webmaster of the No. 1 site on Google for true ghost stories. I know it would be naughty to mention my site's url here, but if you want the full url, please contact me and I would be happy to email it to you.

I am sure you will find my site very interesting, as have the many thousands of people who visit it every month!

[johnreppion]

Hi,

Very interested to read your post. I am the Webmaster of the No. 1 site on Google for true ghost stories. I know it would be naughty to mention my site's url here, but if you want the full url, please contact me and I would be happy to email it to you.

I am sure you will find my site very interesting, as have the many thousands of people who visit it every month!Erm, how come your signature is a link to a singles night? Why are my threads getting spammed so much? This is quite odd...

[Edited - due to the dreaded "post pub post" syndrome]

[Ged]

Oh pray tell - does he make them up like somebody else we know?

Is there a top google site for 'untrue' ghost stories then?

Anyway, the signature for a ghost site is like a singles night: Nothing any good ever shows up!

[AntiPathos]

The clue was in his opener. Search Google for the text string given (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=True+Ghost+Stories&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a). Not the busiest forum ever but hey...

AP.

[Singlesnights]

The reason why my signature links to a singles site is because I have just set that site up and want some new members.

I can't very well put ALL my urls in my signature, can I? Of course, if you want the url for the True Ghost Stories site, I would be perfectly happy to send it to you. Alternatively, you can type in the search term "true ghost stories", and you will get there.







Erm, how come your signature is a link to a singles night? Why are my threads getting spammed so much? This is quite odd...

[Edited - due to the dreaded "post pub post" syndrome]

[cobbett clayton]

Hi
I used to run a website about spirits and one time someone sent me a story of a spirit in Liverpool for the site. It was a 'ghost' that had been seen a few times in Liverpool, but this story went, Young lad approaches a bus stop, there's a young girl there freezing, so the boy lends her his jacket, they talk for a while but realising she's missed the last bus so she decides to walk home cutting through the grave yard. (Say her name was Susan cos I cant remember), the boy decides its not a good idea she walks home alone and takes off through the grave yard after her to escort her safely home, when he comes upon his jacket hung on a grave stone, and the name on the grave is Susan's. She had died years previous on a cold night after having missed the last bus home.
Has any one else heard this one before?
and how many books did you sell on your launch?

[Ged]

Yes, that one is in one of the early Tom Slemen books before I got 'onto them'

This is the only spirits site i've ever found to be of worth and the text is true.


http://www.cooletc.com/gb/home.asp





.

[PhilipG]

It's interesting to have some clue about what Librarians think of Slemen's fans. :PDT_Piratz_26:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3075/2653219064_f1b7e84a34_o.jpg

[johnreppion]

Hi
I used to run a website about spirits and one time someone sent me a story of a spirit in Liverpool for the site. It was a 'ghost' that had been seen a few times in Liverpool, but this story went, Young lad approaches a bus stop, there's a young girl there freezing, so the boy lends her his jacket, they talk for a while but realising she's missed the last bus so she decides to walk home cutting through the grave yard. (Say her name was Susan cos I cant remember), the boy decides its not a good idea she walks home alone and takes off through the grave yard after her to escort her safely home, when he comes upon his jacket hung on a grave stone, and the name on the grave is Susan's. She had died years previous on a cold night after having missed the last bus home.
Has any one else heard this one before?
and how many books did you sell on your launch?Yeah, it rings a bell - I think Ged might be right that it's a Slemen-ism.

I've shifted 66 books in total so far and I'm going to be doing another signing very soon.

[johnreppion]

The reason why my signature links to a singles site is because I have just set that site up and want some new members.

I can't very well put ALL my urls in my signature, can I? Of course, if you want the url for the True Ghost Stories site, I would be perfectly happy to send it to you. Alternatively, you can type in the search term "true ghost stories", and you will get there.It does seem that it might make more sense, purely from a relevance stand point, to use a ghost related name and have a ghost related URL if you were A) affiliated with such a site an trying to promote it and B) posting in an existing thread about ghosts. Just my opinion obliviously.

However, as you're obviously posting elsewhere on the site and talking about other things I suppose it's fair enough. Still, it did seem a bit odd the way you jumped in on the thread.

[Ged]

It's interesting to have some clue about what Librarians think of Slemen's fans. :PDT_Piratz_26:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3075/2653219064_f1b7e84a34_o.jpg


Another Slemen mystery.

Where is book No.3?

The answer will be in Haunted Liverpool 19.

[Max]

Haha, I remember on the Pricey show that he said he and his publishers agreed that they would stop at Haunted Liverpool 10.

[Ged]

Why kill the cash cow ;)

[Max]

Why kill the cash cow ;)

Good point, theres many gullible Liverpudlians well Into him.

[matt]

Another Slemen mystery.

Where is book No.3?

The answer will be in Haunted Liverpool 19.


There's one copy in my house. . . .

[johnreppion]

I braved the weird world of local radio today for the first time ever. The results can be heard here http://hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com/2008/...-bbc-radio.html (http://hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com/2008/07/listen-to-johns-interview-on-bbc-radio.html). It didn't go too badly but I think I should maybe have talked about ghosts a bit more. :(

[ChrisGeorge]

Yeah, it rings a bell - I think Ged might be right that it's a Slemen-ism.

I've shifted 66 books in total so far and I'm going to be doing another signing very soon.

Congratulations, John. We can't all be Tom Slemen! Keep up the good work.

Chris :hug:

[johnreppion]

Well done on getting this published. I suppose CoC helped some(?). I've read a few bits you have written and it's clear that you do know how to assemble words on pages in a thoroughly legible manner.

It's a pity that this isn't listed on Amazon because I have really been looking forward to another dazzling review by "Cryptid Frank (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/pdp/profile/A3UP8I3J94TCDJ/ref=cm_cr_dp_pdp)", whose views of other Liverpool author's books are so enlightening. Frankie doesn't much like other people writing about Liverpool and it's ghosts but he sure loves his Tom Slemen books!!!

Hang on a minute. . . No, surely not ... it can't be. Can it? He wouldn't. Would he? Nah... That's beneath him.

...or is it? :)

AP.Well, guess what. He's only gone and done it! Yes Crytid Frank has given my book one star on Amazon and called it a "pale imitation of Slemen". :disgust:

Now I know that we'd joked about it happening previously and it is quite funny so long as you're in on the gag but sadly most people aren't and obviously it's not good for me to have my only review on Amazon be a negative one. Therefore, can I appeal to all you generous folk here who have already purchased a copy of the book to perhaps take a few moments to leave an HONEST review please? Cheers. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

In other (slightly less controversial) 800 Years of haunted Liverpool news: I have an article in #27 of the new, re-launched Paranormal Magazine which covers some of the smaller stories which didn't make it into the book. Also, I was interviewed by Roy Basnett on City Talk FM last week which went pretty well (although I "uhm"ed and "ah"ed a bit too much). You can listen to the interview online now at http://hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com/

Thanks again to everyone here for all their help and support; I genuinely could not have written this book without you . In closing, I feel a quote from Crytid Frank's review might be appropriate: "In some cases the author does not cite first-hand research, but Wikipedia and even a FORUM(!) for his sources"; imagine that! A forum of all things! Whatever next? :unibrow:

[Max]

Read the book and enjoyed the read.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Felt spooked a bit going home from Formby beach after reading about black dogs though. I get spooked at night alot anyway though just because It's dark haha.

Enjoyed reading about some local history In the book too about the history of the areas you covered.

Would you ever try another Liverpool ghost stories book?

Glad It's not It's not written like a fairytale like Lemens books, after my experiences with Lemen(won;t post any stories though about It, unless your curious enough to PM me) chances are that's him writing the review. No wonder he hasn't finished his Ripper book after 7 years.

He posted this review on Billy Roberts book too.:Smiliz_Kingz_PDT_13

http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/product/1905266421/ref=cm_cr_dp_all_helpful?_encoding=UTF8&coliid=&showViewpoints=1&colid=&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

[johnreppion]

Cheers Max. Very glad to hear that you enjoyed the book mate. A bit of spookage is always a good sign too; makes me feel I've done my job.

I don't think I'd write another book about Liverpool's ghosts because the market is a bit flooded to be honest. However, I'll definitely continue to write about the region's history, folklore and all that kind of thing.

[Last Of The Timelords]

I've received your book today from Amazon (or rather a seller on Amazon's marketplace). Looking forward to reading it :)

[johnreppion]

I've received your book today from Amazon (or rather a seller on Amazon's marketplace). Looking forward to reading it :)Excellent news! Hope you enjoy the book mate. :PDT11

[julieoapw]

Glad some other, more objective people, have reviewed the book, research writer.
I notice in cryptic's review of your book, he manages to mention Slemen's name 5 times - how strange!!! I clicked to see the other 8 books he has reviewed - nearly all ghost books on Liverpool (bad reviews with recommendations to read Tom Slemen) with one review of Pete Price's biography (bad review) and one on Tom Slemen's vampire book (5 stars!)
Uncanny!

[johnreppion]

Glad some other, more objective people, have reviewed the book, research writer.
I notice in cryptic's review of your book, he manages to mention Slemen's name 5 times - how strange!!! I clicked to see the other 8 books he has reviewed - nearly all ghost books on Liverpool (bad reviews with recommendations to read Tom Slemen) with one review of Pete Price's biography (bad review) and one on Tom Slemen's vampire book (5 stars!)
Uncanny!Yes thanks julie, it's nice to know that there are people out there who have enjoyed the book enough to leave a review and they've all been very positive barring Mr Frank's.

By the way, I'm going to be giving a talk and signing copies of 800 Years of Haunted Liverpool for the Liverpool Holistic Circle (http://www.liverpool-holistic-circle.org/) on Tuesday the 9th of September 2008.

The Liverpool Holistic Circle meets at 7.30pm every Tuesday evening at the Rosicrucian Chapter, 19, Dovedale Road, Liverpool, L18 1DN.

There will be no charge for attending the talk and books will be selling for ?9.99 each. If you are planning on attending please contact the LHO (http://www.liverpool-holistic-circle.org/page16.htm) as spaces will be limited. I hope to see some of you there.

Cheers.

[tony parker]

lo

Hi all,
As some of you might already have read in this thread (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5607), I'm currently working on some sample chapters for a book about Liverpool's ghosts and hauntings (not in any way connected to Tom Slemen work).

I'd love to hear from anyone who has any ghostly accounts of their own to share or some haunted places they'd like to recommend for inclusion.

I'm aiming to make the book as factual as possible, including as much of the documented history of the buildings/areas/people as I can find and interviewing witnesses personally if possible.

Obviously, I can't give too much away about what I'm working on but, if you're interested in seeing a sample of my work, you can read my article about The Childe Of Hale on the Fortean Times website HERE (http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/146/the_childe_of_hale.html)

Thanks in advance for your help.

Cheers.

[chazsam]

I WORKED AT RENSHAWS IN CROWN STREET TOXTETH
BY THE WOMENS HOSPITAL I HEARD THERE HAD BEEN
A LOT OF GHOST SIGHTINGS THERE OVER THE YEARS,
NOT THAT I SEEN ANYTHING MYSELF BUT I DID HAVE A
FEW SHIVERS AND STRANGE FEELINGS WHEN I WAS WORKING ON MY OWN IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE FACTORY AND I AM NOT THE TYPE OF PERSON WHO SCARES EASELY.ALSO I HAVE READ ALL OF TOM SLEMEN BOOKS AND I HAVE NOT READ ANYTHING IN HIS BOOKS ABOUT RENSHAWS SO MAYBE THAT COULD BE A PLACE TO START GOOD LOOK WITH THE BOOK:PDT_Piratz_26::PDT_Aliboronz_24:

[johnreppion]

I WORKED AT RENSHAWS IN CROWN STREET TOXTETH BY THE WOMENS HOSPITAL I HEARD THERE HAD BEEN
A LOT OF GHOST SIGHTINGS THERE OVER THE YEARS, NOT THAT I SEEN ANYTHING MYSELF BUT I DID HAVE A FEW SHIVERS AND STRANGE FEELINGS WHEN I WAS WORKING ON MY OWN IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE FACTORY AND I AM NOT THE TYPE OF PERSON WHO SCARES EASELY.ALSO I HAVE READ ALL OF TOM SLEMEN BOOKS AND I HAVE NOT READ ANYTHING IN HIS BOOKS ABOUT RENSHAWS SO MAYBE THAT COULD BE A PLACE TO START GOOD LOOK WITH THE BOOK:PDT_Piratz_26::PDT_Aliboronz_24:Cheers Chazsam, the book is all done and dusted now but I'm always interested in hearing about other local occurrences anyway. I assume you mean Renshaw Scott Ltd‎ Renshaw (http://www.renshawscott.co.uk/) the food manufacturers. Do you know how long the factory has been there?

[johnreppion]

I will be appearing on the Linda McDermott show on Wednesday the 26th of November at around 11pm (the show starts at 10pm) discussing 800 Years of Haunted Liverpool.

You can listen live online at BBC - Liverpool - BBC Radio Merseyside - Radio Mside (http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/local_radio/index.shtml) and the show will be available for 7 days on Listen Again after the initial broadcast.

[naked lilac]

I will be appearing on the Linda McDermott show on Wednesday the 26th of November at around 11pm (the show starts at 10pm) discussing 800 Years of Haunted Liverpool.

You can listen live online at BBC - Liverpool - BBC Radio Merseyside - Radio Mside (http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/local_radio/index.shtml) and the show will be available for 7 days on Listen Again after the initial broadcast.

Congradulations Researchwriter.. You have worked countless hours on your books, etc.. and now broadcasted live.. brilliant!!:handclap: Good luck..

[johnreppion]

Congradulations Researchwriter.. You have worked countless hours on your books, etc.. and now broadcasted live.. brilliant!!:handclap: Good luck..Cheers naked lilac. :PDT11

[johnreppion]

Postponed until next Wednesday, 10 pm. Sorry.

[ItsaZappathing]

Well done Research writer in getting a book out there.
I will offer to stay in any "so called" haunted place for the night (if the price is right).
"Ghost my $&se" as Jim Royale would say. :handclap:

[Ged]

I have done in Chingle Hall (supposedly very haunted) for free - and the only spirits that night came from our vodka bottle.

[ItsaZappathing]

I have done in Chingle Hall (supposedly very haunted) for free - and the only spirits that night came from our vodka bottle.

You mean you never even seen an orb ? :handclap:

[Ged]

Saw a carrot in my spew next day and that's about it.

Orbs usually don't appear to the naked eye, so I dress mine up in womens clothing.

They only appear on photos and t.v. cameras, usually it's dust particles floating around that have probably been disturbed by yvette fielding scurrying and screaming as Degzy goes into his 'Sam' trance like state - aka acting.

[Cadfael]

researchwriter :PDT11

Many Many thanks for a mention in your book which I picked up yesterday!!!

:handclap::handclap:

[johnreppion]

No problem mate. Thanks for all your help (and to everyone else here who pitched in).

Hope you enjoy the book.

[captain kong]

A HAUNTING EXPERIENCE.

I have seen many ghosts.
This is one of them. He was violent and he broke my ankle. So it was not imagination.


I joined the Esso Yorkshire, a 90,000 ton tanker, in San Francisco, in January 1975, with my brother, John, who is now the brewer from Knowlsley. The lad who was paying off was just leaving the cabin as I moved in .
He said you won`t get much sleep in here it`s Effing haunted. I just laughed thinking that he was joking.
It started on the first night at sea as we sailed across the Pacific for the Gulf , a 42 day trip.
I was 4 to 8 watch and at midnight the cabin lights came on and there was a guy wearing a white boiler suit, Esso logo, but face was just like a mist. He grabbed my leg and heaved me out of my bunk and I crashed onto the deck, I shouted and got to my feet and he was gone,
I legged it up to the mess room and the only guy around was the 12 -4 standby man, smoking a ciggy and drinking coffee, "Some ba*t*rd has pulled me from my bunk" I said " Have you seen any one?" He replied no, he had been there all alone.
On watch at 4am I told the Mate all about it, he had known about it but there were no spare cabins on board as we had 12 NIKO workers on board doing maintenance .so I would have to stay there.
This went on for several nights and my brother who had the cabin next door woke up one night and saw a man in a white boiler suit walk through his cabin door and then he heard the shouting and banging coming from my cabin, the coward legged it up to the mess room and stayed there for night , he did not come in to see what was happening to me.
The ghost could pick me up as if I was completely weightless and throw me across the cabin at the formica bulkhead and bounce me off it, The bulkheads were all badly cracked.. Then one night he got my ankle and twisted it round and heaved me out including the mattress and crashed me onto the deck and broke my ankle, the cabin was completely wrecked and I was lying there in screaming agony, My brother legged it up and got the Mate and the Captain and they were horrified at the destruction of the cabin and what they saw. Though they had known about it they didn`t realise how bad it was, .
The Captain said he could not log it as no one in the Office would believe it so he said he would log it as if I had fallen down a ladder. My ankle was strapped up with elastic bandages. I was off watch and laid up. I stayed up all night until about 2am to give the ghost time to sort himself out. I wasn?t in the bunk at midnight.
The Captain went through the old Log Books and discovered that a man, who was on the 8 to 12 watch had received a dear John letter from his wife and so he hung himself. in the cabin. So every night at just after midnight this man`s ghost was going to turn in and I was in his bunk.
At Ras Tannurah in Saudi 3 weeks later I went to the hospital; and had it x rayed and it seemed that it had healed OK and I was kept on light duties on day work for another two weeks just to make sure it had healed. We sailed for Guam in the Mariannas in the Pacific. When I got to Guam, I got a telegram to say my dear old Dad had died. The haunting stopped after that. So maybe Dad had a word with this guy.

[*Lyra*]

I lived in number 23 Madryn Street... the things I could tell you about that house and what I experienced. See if you can find anything out about that house... I'd love to read what happened or the people in my old house.

Good luck with the book :)

[jimmy]

Lyra, 23 Madryn Street, please do tell more.

[johnreppion]

Captain Kong - great story! Not often you hear of something so physical happening as a result of haunting.

*Lyra* - was this the council house on Madryn where Anthony and Alison Santos lived in the late 1980s? Lots of poltergeist activity reported there. So much, in fact, that the council moved them out temporarily.

For anyone who is interested, I'll be giving a talk about Liverpool ghosts and hauntings at Liverpool World Museum on Friday the 30th of October at 12:30. Entry is free. More info at http://hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com/

[johnreppion]

Regrettably, the talk has now been cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances. Apologies. :sad:

[fortinian]

Bloody shame, I was looking forward to meeting you!

[ItsaZappathing]

Regrettably, the talk has now been cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances. Apologies. :sad:

Someone got spooked:PDT_Xtremez_42:

[wsteve55]

Regrettably, the talk has now been cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances. Apologies. :sad:

Come on....admit it,you've been exorcised,yeh!! ;)

[ItsaZappathing]

A HAUNTING EXPERIENCE.

I have seen many ghosts.
This is one of them. He was violent and he broke my ankle. So it was not imagination.


I joined the Esso Yorkshire, a 90,000 ton tanker, in San Francisco, in January 1975, with my brother, John, who is now the brewer from Knowlsley. The lad who was paying off was just leaving the cabin as I moved in .
He said you won`t get much sleep in here it`s Effing haunted. I just laughed thinking that he was joking.
It started on the first night at sea as we sailed across the Pacific for the Gulf , a 42 day trip.
I was 4 to 8 watch and at midnight the cabin lights came on and there was a guy wearing a white boiler suit, Esso logo, but face was just like a mist. He grabbed my leg and heaved me out of my bunk and I crashed onto the deck, I shouted and got to my feet and he was gone,
I legged it up to the mess room and the only guy around was the 12 -4 standby man, smoking a ciggy and drinking coffee, "Some ba*t*rd has pulled me from my bunk" I said " Have you seen any one?" He replied no, he had been there all alone.
On watch at 4am I told the Mate all about it, he had known about it but there were no spare cabins on board as we had 12 NIKO workers on board doing maintenance .so I would have to stay there.
This went on for several nights and my brother who had the cabin next door woke up one night and saw a man in a white boiler suit walk through his cabin door and then he heard the shouting and banging coming from my cabin, the coward legged it up to the mess room and stayed there for night , he did not come in to see what was happening to me.
The ghost could pick me up as if I was completely weightless and throw me across the cabin at the formica bulkhead and bounce me off it, The bulkheads were all badly cracked.. Then one night he got my ankle and twisted it round and heaved me out including the mattress and crashed me onto the deck and broke my ankle, the cabin was completely wrecked and I was lying there in screaming agony, My brother legged it up and got the Mate and the Captain and they were horrified at the destruction of the cabin and what they saw. Though they had known about it they didn`t realise how bad it was, .
The Captain said he could not log it as no one in the Office would believe it so he said he would log it as if I had fallen down a ladder. My ankle was strapped up with elastic bandages. I was off watch and laid up. I stayed up all night until about 2am to give the ghost time to sort himself out. I wasn?t in the bunk at midnight.
The Captain went through the old Log Books and discovered that a man, who was on the 8 to 12 watch had received a dear John letter from his wife and so he hung himself. in the cabin. So every night at just after midnight this man`s ghost was going to turn in and I was in his bunk.
At Ras Tannurah in Saudi 3 weeks later I went to the hospital; and had it x rayed and it seemed that it had healed OK and I was kept on light duties on day work for another two weeks just to make sure it had healed. We sailed for Guam in the Mariannas in the Pacific. When I got to Guam, I got a telegram to say my dear old Dad had died. The haunting stopped after that. So maybe Dad had a word with this guy.

And to us sceptics...what would you say ?
I believe you but not the ghost:PDT_Xtremez_42:

[pablo42]

There was an old record years back called Camouflage. I was telling a gang of kids here about it. It was about a dead Marine coming back to help his mates. I told them the story as though it happened to me in Vietnam. The head teacher got to hear of it and asked me to talk to all the kids about my experiences in Vietnam. Took me a while explaining that it was a record and I'd never fought in Vietnam.

[pablo42]

Had a weird experience a few years ago. We went to see the film Titanic on the pictures. I was telling my sister how good it was. She said she couldn't watch any movies about the Titanic cos she found she had difficulty breathing. Funny cos I had the same tightness around me chest when I was watching it. I'm pretty certain we had no relatives on that ship, but it's a bit weird.

[wsteve55]

Have you ever checked the passenger list? I've seen part of it somewhere,but can't remember where! It would be interesting to find out,dont you think?

[ItsaZappathing]

Had a weird experience a few years ago. We went to see the film Titanic on the pictures. I was telling my sister how good it was. She said she couldn't watch any movies about the Titanic cos she found she had difficulty breathing. Funny cos I had the same tightness around me chest when I was watching it. I'm pretty certain we had no relatives on that ship, but it's a bit weird.

Sure is weird but.....a figment of the imagination I imagine.
Sorry, I 've yet to see proof of things that go "bump" in the night.:PDT11

[pablo42]

Sure is weird but.....a figment of the imagination I imagine.
Sorry, I 've yet to see proof of things that go "bump" in the night.:PDT11

Strange indeed. Got no explanation though. Me Nan was alive in 1912 and she woulda told us if we lost anyone on there.

[scouse smurf]

Wasn't the passenger list in the maritime museum ?

Also on here http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic_passenger_list/

[ItsaZappathing]

Strange indeed. Got no explanation though. Me Nan was alive in 1912 and she woulda told us if we lost anyone on there.

My mum said she'd come and haunt me when she died. No visits yet!!
I am open minded but all this ghost stuff is still mumbo jumbo to me.
I would stay in ANY haunted place to prove there's sod all there.
I do believe there's something we don't know about but what I don't know (figure that out).:PDT_Piratz_26:

[pablo42]

I understand that Zap. I don't believe in ghosts and ghoulies, total garbage. Heard of some strange stuff though.

[Mark R]

I believe any supernatural 'occurances' are due to scientific reasons, more than 'spiritual' or 'ghostly' reasons.
Regarding the Titanic - Futility, or the Wreck of the Titan was a novella written by Morgan Robertson in 1898. The story features the ocean liner Titan, which sinks in the North Atlantic after striking an iceberg. The Titan and its sinking have been noted to be very similar to the real-life passenger ship RMS Titanic fourteen years later...The similarities are remarkable, all the more so when you consider the novel was written before the Olympic-class Titanic had even been designed, there are some remarkable similarities between the fictional and real-life counterparts. Like the Titanic, the fictional ship sank in April in the North Atlantic, and there were not enough lifeboats for the passengers. There are also similarities between the size (800 ft long for Titan versus 882? ft long for the Titanic), speed (25 knots for Titan, 23 knots for Titanic) and life-saving equipment.

Similarities between Titanic and Titan:

Unsinkable
The Titanic was the world's largest luxury liner (882 feet, displacing 53,000 long tons), and was once described as being (nearly) "unsinkable".
The Titan was the largest craft afloat and the greatest of the works of men (800 feet, displacing 75,000 tons), and was considered "unsinkable".
Lifeboats
The Titanic carried only 20 lifeboats, less than half the number required for her passenger capacity of 3000.
The Titan carried "as few as the law allowed", 24 lifeboats, less than half needed for her 3000 capacity.
Struck an iceberg
Moving too fast at 23 knots, the Titanic struck an iceberg on the night of April 14, 1912 in the North Atlantic 400 miles away from Terranova.
Also on an April night in North Atlantic 400 miles from Newfoundland (Terranova) , the Titan hit an iceberg while traveling at 25 knots.
The Unsinkable Sank
The unsinkable Titanic sank, and more than half of her 2207 passengers died screaming for help.
The indestructible Titan also sank, more than half of her 2500 passengers drowning, their "voices raised in agonized screams"

[lindac8941]

Hi, I actually have a video of a ghost, which my daughter took by accident, but unfortunetly my daughter never actually saw it herself, but her 2 friends did, but I know they wont even talk about it. I am a paranormal investigator myself, and had the video footage examined. No fakery involved. My daughter was only 15 at the time, her friends 15/16. Because the 2 girls wouldnt be interviewed by Paraprojects that where investigating , they say they cant rule out that the girls didnt do this themselves (which I am quite certain they have not) because they cant see what sort of character they have. But I know the truth, I have the video as evidence. I have been back to the site, on the anniversary, and had numerous pieces of equipment E.g K2 Meters, EMF Meters (ghost radar0 all going off at the same time, at around the same time the sighting happened. Also, I do know a very good place, in St Helens which is very active.

[Ged]

Come on then let's see it. And the vid.

[Debra]

I've heard ghostly shuffles in the past ..

[dazza]

Hahaha hilarious! What a load of ole mumbo-jumbo! Some people will believe anything, absolutely anything? Even Arthur Conan Doyle was taken by spiritualist, psychic and paranormal stories of the day. He was well away with the fairies! The Cottingley fairies, that is.

[pablo42]

Me girls say that we are haunted by me dad. My youngest lad even seen him. He never met him in life though.

[dazza]

Another question:

Why is it that the majority of UFO sightings only appear to crackpot mid-western US farmers, rather than to the rest of us? Hmmmm??? Could it be that they're making it all up? The British government released a series of top secret UFO files to the public yesterday.

One overwhelming observation was noted - the sightings reflected the technology and culture of the day. ie: sightings in the 1920's UFO's were shaped like Zeppelin airships, the 60's more like flying saucers [image below], and today, similar to stealth fighter bombers. Full article here. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7398108.stm)

I repeat my claim, that some people will believe anything, absolutely anything.

[Debra]

I have never believed in a UFO daz , but then again i never believed in bad spirits until i moved into a house that was over a hundred years old , i never seen a ghost , but boy was the atmoshpere horrible .. I just knew something wasn't right ..

[dazza]

I have never believed in a UFO daz , but then again i never believed in bad spirits until i moved into a house that was over a hundred years old , i never seen a ghost , but boy was the atmoshpere horrible .. I just knew something wasn't right ..

I'm the same, I don't believe...and can't watch a horror movie by myself? When I have, it's from behind the sofa. What a wuss!

[Debra]

I'm the same, I don't believe...but I can't watch a horror movie by myself? When I have it's from behind the sofa. What a wuss!

I know , i hate them ! I hate sleeping in the dark too , I always imagine i can see things moving about in the shadows ...

[dazza]

Oh, the things moving in the shadows are real. I was just talking about UFO's.

[ChrisGeorge]

Hahaha hilarious! What a load of ole mumbo-jumbo! Some people will believe anything, absolutely anything? Even Arthur Conan Doyle was taken by spiritualist, psychic and paranormal stories of the day. He was well away with the fairies! The Cottingley fairies, that is.

It might also be said that there are such things as fads. Spiritualism was a fad in British society in Conan Doyle's day. He did though play in goal for Portsmouth. Maybe he got hit on the head a few times? :PDT_Xtremez_12:

[Debra]

Oh, the things moving in the shadows are real. I was just talking about UFO's.

Don't be saying that , I'll never sleep again !!!

[dazza]

It might also be said that there are such things as fads. Spiritualism was a fad in British society in Conan Doyle's day. He did though play in goal for Portsmouth. Maybe he got hit on the head a few times? :PDT_Xtremez_12:
Arthur Conan Doyle a Pompey! All bets are off - I'll believe in anything now.

[dazza]

Don't be saying that , I'll never sleep again !!!
Get yourself one of these pillows then?

[ChrisGeorge]

Arthur Conan Doyle a Pompey! All bets are off - I'll believe in anything now.

That could be his ghost behind the Portsmouth goal. . .

By the way, talking of ghosts and mysteries and such, you may have heard that the mystery writer Dick Francis (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4SUNA_enUS307US213&q=%22Dick+Francis%22+Grand+National+1956), a former jockey, died a few days ago, age 89. He rode the Queen's horse in the 1956 Grand National and was leading going to the finishing post. But the horse fell unexpectedly, apparently having seen something on the track, a shadow or something, and he ended up losing the lead. Dick Francis never did win the National.

C

[pablo42]

Get yourself one of these pillows then?

What is it Dazza?

[Debra]

Get yourself one of these pillows then?

Ohh i like the look of that , where do you get them from ?

[dazza]

What is it Dazza?

It's called the "Boyfriend Pillow" for ladies who have trouble sleeping. Can you see the hand, and shirt buttons?

[dazza]

Ohh i like the look of that , where do you get them from ?

It's called the "boyfriend pillow" £24.99 from here. (http://www.buy1or2.com/boyfriend/).

Pablo's going to be upset....being replaced by a pillow?

[dazza]

That could be his ghost behind the Portsmouth goal. . .

By the way, talking of ghosts and mysteries and such, you may have heard that the mystery writer Dick Francis (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4SUNA_enUS307US213&q=%22Dick+Francis%22+Grand+National+1956), a former jockey, died a few days ago, age 89. He rode the Queen's horse in the 1956 Grand National and was leading going to the finishing post. But the horse fell unexpectedly, apparently having seen something on the track, a shadow or something, and he ended up losing the lead. Dick Francis never did win the National.

C

I saw the footage on the news, very spooky.

[Debra]

It's called the "boyfriend pillow" £24.99 from here. (http://www.buy1or2.com/boyfriend/).

Pablo's going to be upset....being replaced by a pillow?

I can see the shirt buttons , but what does the hand do ?

[dazza]

I can see the shirt buttons , but what does the hand do ?

Women, never satisfied...well, that what they tell me?

[Debra]

Arrgghh !!!!!!!!!!! Dazza i just noticed the white hand ... Oh that would freak me out , it looks terrifying , i'd rather sleep with my cat !

[dazza]

I understand - it'd be like sleeping with Michael Jackson [the white glove]. They do them in different colours though?

[suzi]

Arrgghh !!!!!!!!!!! Dazza i just noticed the white hand ... Oh that would freak me out , it looks terrifying , i'd rather sleep with my cat !

I think you're right Debra.

[Debra]

I think you're right Debra.

Imagine it Suzi , waking up with a hand around your throat ?

[suzi]

Imagine it Suzi , waking up with a hand around your throat ?

I think not thank you very much

[Debra]

I think not thank you very much

Hahahaha ...

[dazza]

As we're talking about horror...they do a range of Blood bath Pillows as well? Any takers?

[pablo42]

Imagine it Suzi , waking up with a hand around your throat ?

Wouldn't be the first time...

[Debra]

Oh my goodness !

[pablo42]

As we're talking about horror...they do a range of Blood bath Pillows as well? Any takers?

That's just so weird...

[dazza]

That's just so weird...

No this is Weird. The Godfather pillow - the perfect freaky gift for Les?

[pablo42]

No this is Weird. The Godfather pillow - the perfect freaky gift for Les?

Now that's funny. I know a few folk that would freak out.

[dazza]

Especially if you snuck in and placed it there?

[lindac8941]

A small snippet of it is on you tube, put on, by someone , I am not happy about this person putting my video on, but you can take a look on Whiston Station Ghost Video. There is only a very small section of the video, and you cannot hear what the girls are shouting. Also what you do not see is, the camera comes off the figure for a couple of seconds, when the camera returns the figure is gone. There is a long story connected about this video. But too long to go into. But believe me, although some are none believers. This is very real. I dont have any reason to make this up as I am not getting any money out of this, nor did my 15 year old, who has no interest atall in the paranormal, it just happened.

[Debra]

A small snippet of it is on you tube, put on, by someone , I am not happy about this person putting my video on, but you can take a look on Whiston Station Ghost Video. There is only a very small section of the video, and you cannot hear what the girls are shouting.

Linda , i was driving through Hoyton by Asda , it was foggy , and i could have sworn i drove straight through a man walking in the road ! I think he was a ghost ..

[pablo42]

Linda , i was driving through Hoyton by Asda , it was foggy , and i could have sworn i drove straight through a man walking in the road ! I think he was a ghost ..

Just keep your foot down babe.

Keep telling yourself it was a ghost...

[dazza]

Nice video. I think I've seen this guy somewhere else though? Not very original...It looks like a character from the Shiverpool walking tours, done in a Blair witch shaky cam, low res mobile. I'm going to file this in unsubstantiated made up stuff.

[Debra]

Just keep your foot down babe.

Keep telling yourself it was a ghost...

Well if he wasn't a ghost then , he sure is now !!!

[pablo42]

Well if he wasn't a ghost then , he sure is now !!!

Hit me at 40, and there's an 80% chance I'll die
Hit me at 30, and there's an 80% chance I'll live
Avoid hitting me, and there's a 99% chance I'll become obese

Of course if they're already obese, the stats change somewhat...

Driving at 30, the only way to avoid hitting them is to throw chocolate onto the other side of the road

Hit them at 40, and they'll do more damage to you then you will to them....

[lindac8941]

A small snippet of it, can be seen on You Tube. Whiston Station Ghost footage.

[Debra]

A small snippet of it, can be seen on You Tube. Whiston Station Ghost footage.

Oh i'll have a look at that Linda ..

[lindac8941]

Really you need to see the full video. It is not a male it is female, as the figure was about 4ft 8, also wearing a long grey skirt, boots. the footage is wobbly at that precise moment, cos the girls where frightened. earlier in the video the it was not wobbly. I cant put the full video on unfortunetly. And I dont care what anyone thinks. It is not a fake. as i say to appreciate what is happening you have to hear the girls reaction and see the figure disipitate. If you knew the exact site, and the postion of the figure, you would realise that there is no way the figure, (If someone was playing a game) could get away without being noticed by the girls.

[Debra]

Oh that gave me shivers , it was horrible ...

[Cadfael]

http://www.para-projects.com/images/Whiston%20Apparition%20Footage%20Analysis_web.pdf

[Samp]

Get yourself one of these pillows then?

You have got nice legs Dazza!

[ChrisGeorge]

Hahaha hilarious! What a load of ole mumbo-jumbo! Some people will believe anything, absolutely anything? Even Arthur Conan Doyle was taken by spiritualist, psychic and paranormal stories of the day. He was well away with the fairies! The Cottingley fairies, that is.

Hi Daz

Here's a doctor who it seems took the opposite view to Dr. Arthur Conan Doyle, that people who believe in apparitions or paranormal phenomenon are deceiving themselves.

Review of a book by Dr. Harold Dearden in the British Medical Journal, June 27, 1936. The book is interesting in that it appears to give Dr. Dearden's views on eyewitnesses to certain phenomena. The case of Spring-Heeled Jack's reported appearance in Everton comes to mind, for example.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2743/4371261484_3006e9c038.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2768/4371261482_9a86fa7dda.jpg

[ItsaZappathing]

Ghost my Ass!
Prove it and I will believe you. My mind is a parachute - It don't work unless it's open. :D

[dazza]

You have got nice legs Dazza!

I shave them twice a day.

[dazza]

Hi Daz

Here's a doctor who it seems took the opposite view to Dr. Arthur Conan Doyle, that people who believe in apparitions or paranormal phenomenon are deceiving themselves.

Review of a book by Dr. Harold Dearden in the British Medical Journal, June 27, 1936. The book is interesting in that it appears to give Dr. Dearden's views on eyewitnesses to certain phenomena. The case of Spring-Heeled Jack's reported appearance in Everton comes to mind, for example.

Thanks Chris, the year of the article is dated 1936 - the year Agatha Christie sets Hercule Poirot in [tv's 'Death in the Nile', at least]. I don't think he'd be taken in by paranormal activity either?

[Samp]

I encountered several spirits in my local pub. It affected me so much that I had to be helped home.

[lindac8941]

Alas I cannot prove or disprove the video. as I say unless you see the whole video people should not be so judgemental. I dont consider my daughter or friends to be liars After all they were 15 year old girls at the time.. I am not a liar either. Everyone to their own opinions I suppose. Thats what makes the world go round. I was going to post some spooky pics that I have taken on investigations, but I have decided against it now. lol. I will just keep them for like minded people on paranormal forums. An open invitation to anyone who doesnt believe, join our para group and come along on an investigation, then give me your opinion. lol.

[Cadfael]

I think that there are many sides to a ghost sighting

a, You just believe
b, You don't believe
c, You believe when you've seen something in person

I believe that there are ghosts as I have seen my nan and my aunty has seen my late dad. No reason to make anything up. No drugs involved, no stressful times of our lives. Just there one second and not the next.

However, I do believe that there are many situations in which a ghost will appear.

A, the person is more suseptable (sic?) to changes in temperature or has a strange feeling
B, the person may have a slight slant towards believing.

I do believe that video and pictures have done nothing FOR ghost sightings, if anything they have created many hoaxes and muddied the water of what may be truth or fiction.

Dogs go mad if they are near 'ghosts' and will chew their own leg off to get away from a situation like that - what do they have that we don't?

There was also something I read years ago when that scientists altered the frequency in a room to a certain level, it distorted something enough in the sensory part of the brain to start forming images in front of your eyes (just shapes).

Lastly - if you don't believe then you won't and we respect that. If you do and you've seen something then it's amazing to know that there has to be something after death - it doesn't prove an afterlife it just suggests that their energy cannot be removed.

I've no book to sell, no pictures to publish yet I've seen my nan and that did it for me.

[Debra]

My daughter and I have just been talking about the night we were driving home from Blackpool , it was last year .. We had been to see the Illuminations , Driving back home on the motoraway all of us seen this :

A man and woman on the other side of the motorway , they looked like they had ran out of a field , the woman was wearing white panties and a bra, she ran across the motorway and ducked down on the central reservation ...The man appeared dressed , the woman ran in front of our car and stopped on the other side , then she ran back over the other sode of the motorway , the man was running after her !!

All of us , me and my two daughters were silent for about 30 seconds , before we all said WTH was that ! We pulled over and gave this exact descrpition to the police , the police rang us to say there had been no reported sightings of anyone , they even deployed the helicopter in case it was a rape or murder ! Nothing was seen of found !

[lindac8941]

I dont believe everything I see or hear, in fact I take the scientific approach and try to debunk things first, looking for a rational answer. On quite a few occasions there have been rational answers, but their are some where their is no ordinary explanation.

[lindac8941]

Cadfael, It is most probably the Electro Magnetic Field, that the scientists have altered, High readings of EMFs can lead to nausea, hallucinations, headaches, dizziness etc. You find high EMF readings near a strong electric source, but when there is an onset of a sudden EMF reading,( taking into account there are no electrics around,) this can as some people believe, the start of a manifestation of spirit.

[wsteve55]

Get yourself one of these pillows then?

Well,you can have the pillow!:unibrow:

[wsteve55]

Another question:

Why is it that the majority of UFO sightings only appear to crackpot mid-western US farmers, rather than to the rest of us? Hmmmm??? Could it be that they're making it all up? The British government released a series of top secret UFO files to the public yesterday.

One overwhelming observation was noted - the sightings reflected the technology and culture of the day. ie: sightings in the 1920's UFO's were shaped like Zeppelin airships, the 60's more like flying saucers [image below], and today, similar to stealth fighter bombers. Full article here. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7398108.stm)

I repeat my claim, that some people will believe anything, absolutely anything.

The Wirral seems to be the place to see these "objects" whatever they might be! It's been orange orbs,lately!

[Debra]

Cadfael, It is most probably the Electro Magnetic Field, that the scientists have altered, High readings of EMFs can lead to nausea, hallucinations, headaches, dizziness etc. You find high EMF readings near a strong electric source, but when there is an onset of a sudden EMF reading,( taking into account there are no electrics around,) this can as some people believe, the start of a manifestation of spirit.

I belive this to be true Linda , My house backed onto the railway line , funny goings on in there .. A lecky ghost i think we had !!

[wsteve55]

Imagine it Suzi , waking up with a hand around your throat ?

That might be the least of your worries!!!:unibrow: (ahem!)

[Debra]

That might be the least of your worries!!!:unibrow:

:neutral:

[wsteve55]

:neutral:

just joking!:nod:

[Debra]

just joking!:nod:

Haha , i know !!! I was just thinking about the hand:eek:

[wsteve55]

Haha , i know !!! I was just thinking about the hand:eek:

The neutral smiley threw me!:nod:

[Debra]

The neutral smiley threw me!:nod:

Sorry Steve it was meant to be a worried look !!

[lindac8941]

True Debra, The ghost in the pic, only appeared, whilst an express train was passing through the station. Spirits feed off electrical energy.

[ItsaZappathing]

Ghost my Ass!
Prove it and I will believe you. My mind is a parachute - It don't work unless it's open. :D

I will say it again. :D

[Debra]

I will say it again. :D

Just you wait until your visited by the ghost of Christmas past Mr Zapp ! :)

[lindac8941]

ha ha ha. I will send over to you a ghostie. lol. If you have never had an experience of the paranormal kind I dont expect you to believe. But have you ever seen electricity coming out of the electrical sockets?????? No, but it is there. Put your finger in the socket, and you will definetly know it is there, just cos certain people dont see things, doesnt mean that it doesnt exist. lol. I dont care what people believe to be quite honest. I have recordings just from last week, at an investigation, where there was a drum answering to our questions the actual drum was an old discarded one in a room below us we had locked off cameras , so we know there was definetly no one there in that room we had a, cat crying, whilst there was no cat in the building, yet the cat is also caught on the tape. I have photos that where taken last year, of a figure on the balcony, this time we all took pics of the same area trying to achieve the same effect, none of us could, except for one person who got the part manifestation of the figure, at first we thought maybe it was the back wall and some markings, but looking at the 2nd pic, the person is in a slightly different location, of about 3 or 4 feet. and everyone else who took pics of the same area didnt get nothing.

[ItsaZappathing]

Just you wait until your visited by the ghost of Christmas past Mr Zapp ! :)

When my mum was alive and I used to annoy here she would say that she would come back and haunt me. She used to say this often so I made her promise me.
No sign yet.:noid:

[Debra]

When my mum was alive and I used to annoy here she would say that she would come back and haunt me. She used to say this often so I made her promise me.
No sign yet.:noid:

Do you know what zapp , I have never seen sight nor light of my mother since she died , and if i did , i would probably faint !

[ItsaZappathing]

Do you know what zapp , I have never seen sight nor light of my mother since she died , and if i did , i would probably faint !

I think I'd s*it meself and faint if me ma came back.

[Debra]

I think I'd s*it meself and faint if me ma came back.

Me too , I think they know how scared we'd be , that's why they would'nt do it to us !

[ItsaZappathing]

Me too , I think they know how scared we'd be , that's why they would'nt do it to us !

Na, me ma would. She promised me and I know she never broke a promise. :D Meanwhile I'll wait till I get to the great gig in the sky to see her :D

[Debra]

Na, me ma would. She promised me and I know she never broke a promise. :D Meanwhile I'll wait till I get to the great gig in the sky to see her :D

I reckon they'll come for us at the end , and we'll die of fright !

[dazza]

Bedtime advice: don't look at the curtains in the dark, that's when twitch, and move by themselves.......Woooooooooo!!!!!! There's a lot of scared-e-cats on this thread.

http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/scared/scared0016.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-msn-smileys.php)

[Debra]

Bedtime advice: don't look at the curtains in the dark, that's when twitch, and move by themselves.......Woooooooooo!!!!!! There's a lot of scared-e-cats on this thread.

http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/scared/scared0016.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-msn-smileys.php)

Haha .. I love that little sofa :)

[dazza]

I was too scared to put anything else on.....this being a scary thread and all.

http://www.gashing.com/smile/scared/scared0003.gif (http://www.squidoo.com/scuba-diving-guide)

[Debra]

I was too scared to put anything else on.....this being a scary thread and all.

http://www.gashing.com/smile/scared/scared0003.gif (http://www.squidoo.com/scuba-diving-guide)

It'll give ya shivers in yer timbers !!
I was going to say ' It'll shiver ya timber' but i thought it best not !!

[dazza]

It'll give ya shivers in yer timbers !!
I was going to say ' It'll shiver ya timber' but i thought it best not !!

Haha, especially with this lot.

[Debra]

Haha, especially with this lot.

I'll say no more :)

[Partsky]

Terrified of Ghosts. Always have been. Its the Catholic in me. Cant watch Ghostie things either. However, I managed many sheltered schemes in my job and it was quite common for elderly people to tell me that they had been "visited" by dead relatives and, frequently, they would die shortly afterwards. What always struck me was they were NOT afraid and often described these visits as being very normal and often during the daytime.. No storms of dark spooky incidents. More often than not they would wake up or go into a room and see whoever it was just sitting in a chair. None of this transparent stuff. The last person who told me of one of these incidents was a very elderly lady I was very fond of. In her case, her long dead Sister was sitting on the bed as she woke up. She was not frightened by said to her "You should not be here". Her Sister told her "I have just come to keep you company". She told me she was not afraid of her in life so wasnt in death. It used to terrify me although a couple of brushes with Cancer have made me realise that its probably comforting for people to think there is someone they love waiting for them. I always noticed it was the person they cared about most who appeared. I dont know whether it was actual Ghosts of whether they wished to see them. Much as I loved my Mum and Dad, I dont want to see them!!! My Husband says he would like to so he could tease them about Everton doing so well lately!

[Debra]

I do beleive that our loved ones will come to us , when it's our time ..
Thank you for this comforting post Partsky ..

[lindylou]

When my mum was alive and I used to annoy here she would say that she would come back and haunt me. She used to say this often so I made her promise me.
No sign yet.:noid:

I've got very close people who I know would come to me - - one in particular who, when we would discuss if there's an afterlife, would say that they would send some sort of sign - - - and I'm still waiting. :rolleyes:

Our house is the hub of our family for 5 generations, and two died at home here - so ours is the place where any ghosty family members would visit ! - - but not a sign of them :neutral:
I was particularly close to my grandmother- - no sign of her !
I can't say what happens after death, but I don't believe in visitations and suchlike. It's all in the imagination. There will always be a rational explaination for so called apparitions.

[dazza]

That's right Lindy.

Notice it's always "a sign" rather than...a conversation! Mystics play with people's gullibility, for their own profit, and reframe things that they know people want to hear. It's all in the imagination, and stories like these on this and other threads deserve their title as Woo.

Woo, or Woo woo - "refers to ideas considered irrational or based on extremely flimsy evidence or that appeal to mysterious occult forces or powers", from the Sceptic's dictionary.

[pablo42]

ha ha ha. I will send over to you a ghostie. lol. If you have never had an experience of the paranormal kind I dont expect you to believe. But have you ever seen electricity coming out of the electrical sockets?????? No, but it is there. Put your finger in the socket, and you will definetly know it is there, just cos certain people dont see things, doesnt mean that it doesnt exist. lol. I dont care what people believe to be quite honest. I have recordings just from last week, at an investigation, where there was a drum answering to our questions the actual drum was an old discarded one in a room below us we had locked off cameras , so we know there was definetly no one there in that room we had a, cat crying, whilst there was no cat in the building, yet the cat is also caught on the tape. I have photos that where taken last year, of a figure on the balcony, this time we all took pics of the same area trying to achieve the same effect, none of us could, except for one person who got the part manifestation of the figure, at first we thought maybe it was the back wall and some markings, but looking at the 2nd pic, the person is in a slightly different location, of about 3 or 4 feet. and everyone else who took pics of the same area didnt get nothing.

Too much Jack Daniels linda...

[pablo42]

Me too , I think they know how scared we'd be , that's why they would'nt do it to us !

Ever thought it's because they are dead?

[pablo42]

Bedtime advice: don't look at the curtains in the dark, that's when twitch, and move by themselves.......Woooooooooo!!!!!! There's a lot of scared-e-cats on this thread.

http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/scared/scared0016.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-msn-smileys.php)

I couldn't give a monkeys for the dead. It's the living that hurt you..

[pablo42]

I do beleive that our loved ones will come to us , when it's our time ..
Thank you for this comforting post Partsky ..

ha, If that were true, I'd be well visited. Nonsense.

[lindac8941]

Too much Jack Daniels linda...

I dont drink Pablo. lol.

[pablo42]

I dont drink Pablo. lol.

Ha, maybe you should...

[lindac8941]

My father told me that if there was an afterlife he would let me know. He did. I didnt actually see him, but I have felt him touch my face, this was at a show at the Neptune theatre, where there where mediums on stage. Also A transfiguration medium has shown me his face, she named him by his first name. He passed messages on through her, who no one would have any knowledge of, except me and my father.

[pablo42]

My father told me that if there was an afterlife he would let me know. He did. I didnt actually see him, but I have felt him touch my face, this was at a show at the Neptune theatre, where there where mediums on stage. Also A transfiguration medium has shown me his face, she named him by his first name. He passed messages on through her, who no one would have any knowledge of, except me and my father.

Me dad is here with us too.

[lindac8941]

Cant drink anymore, dont know why, just gone off it, and get the most awful heartburn if I do attempt a drink, so I keep well alone, and stick to tea and coffee.

[suzi]

Cant drink anymore, dont know why, just gone off it, and get the most awful heartburn if I do attempt a drink, so I keep well alone, and stick to tea and coffee.

I do too

[lindac8941]

I got given 4 bottles of wine and a bottle of Baileys as Christmas Presents, and ended up giving them away. lol.

[pablo42]

I got given 4 bottles of wine and a bottle of Baileys as Christmas Presents, and ended up giving them away. lol.

You don't drink!! Now I don't believe you...

I just couldn't imagine that.

[lindylou]

My father told me that if there was an afterlife he would let me know. He did. I didnt actually see him, but I have felt him touch my face, this was at a show at the Neptune theatre, where there where mediums on stage. Also A transfiguration medium has shown me his face, she named him by his first name. He passed messages on through her, who no one would have any knowledge of, except me and my father.

wonder what's happened to my lot then !!? who also promised they would let me know about the afterlife. :neutral:


I went with my aunty to the Neptune theatre many years ago, to see mediums on stage - my aunt's eldest son had been murdered and she was vulnerable and desperate for some comfort.


... of course we got no sign or no message from my dead cousin.



This kind of thing feeds off peoples' grief and vulnerability. Only gullible people and the easliy influenced believe it.

[ItsaZappathing]

This kind of thing feeds off peoples' grief and vulnerability. Only gullible people and the easliy influenced believe it.

Exactly!!!

[Ged]

I went to the Neptune with my better half, i'm a sceptic prepared to be swayed but nothing doing there. It was Billy Roberts, hosted by Russell Grant, it was being filmed as a pilot tv show which didn't come off. They even proposed to have a horse on stage with an injury and a phsycic was going to find it, the horse wouldn't come out of the lift so they had to abandon that idea. My missus and her mate have been given encouraging readings, stuff only they could know so I don't disbelieve there is something in it, she's also been told she is slightly phsycic. I might just be one of those people who will never see anything.

As for heartburn when drinking, have yous been checked out for a haitus hernia?

[ItsaZappathing]

.

As for heartburn when drinking, have yous been checked out for a haitus hernia?

What are you, a doctor?

[pablo42]

What are you, a doctor?

It could be a hiatus hernia Zap. I done me medical training all over the World. Mainly West Midlands.

[Ged]

What are you, a doctor?

I'd rather be a gynocologist. Fingers into everything them.

[lindac8941]

Hey Ged, I went to that also, this guy from GLADIATORS was sat next to us on the back row, then he got up, remember? Do you remember them 2 women getting up and they gave them some `pins` off the lifeboats off The Titanic? I think the show was rather poor, and was laughing my head off, when they said the horse wouldnt get into the lift. That was a few years back wasnt it?

[dazza]

I'd rather be a gynocologist. Fingers into everything them.
If you can wallpaper your hall from your letterbox, then I'd recommend a switch in career? :)

[lindac8941]

If your not easily scared lindylou, try and get to see Maureen Graham, she is a transfiguration medium. I used to have her number when she lived in Liverpool, so not sure if she still does it now, as she has moved back to my area and has had a child since. But I have never experienced anything like it atall. Her face doesnt actually change, a blackness falls over her face, then you see images in FRONT of her face, which are similar to a negative. Different faces come on and then metamorphasise into another face. I saw my dad and sister in law. My daughter saw her nan, and everyone who attended saw their loved ones and came out so shocked. Some were in tears.

[Ged]

Now if that's true, something tangible that I can see for myself, then i'd go to that.

Yes linda, I remember the titanic artefacts bit and was going to mention that, I mean the way she said, 'oh I can feel a drowning sensation' - after being told it was from the Titanic - doh. The fella, Tommy from the group Space was there in the front row too.

[lindac8941]

As I say Ged, Not sure if she is still doing it, but will try and find out, if so will let you know. My friend had her to her house a couple of years ago, now this friend of mine lost her brother who was killed on the M62. Maureen didnt know of any of this, as my friend lives in Widnes, but she actually told her all about the accident and about him being hit by numerous cars, and unfortunetly that his head was decapitated. Also my friend had, at the time just lost a twin boy, the other survived, up until 1 yr ago. Anyhow she told her, all about her little boy, who had died and what complications he had. No one knew the full extent of his problems, even I didnt know everything, but it turned out, the poor thing didnt have all his brain. This Maureen picked up on also. When I walked in, she told me Joan had walked in beside me, now, she didnt know that I had a sister in law called Joan who had died, and this really upset me. Of course she could have just guessed at a name, but I find that hard to believe, she should hit the nail on the head with a name like that.

[Ged]

Sounds fascinating. I bet she charges a good wack though, and this is what makes me sceptical. If those negative images appear before her face though, i'd pay to see that.

[lindac8941]

Last time I saw her, I think she charged either £20 or £25 , she will come to the house, but think she has to have a certain amount of people there, like minimum of 6 or something. I have seen lots of scary stuff in the past, but this was the scariest thing I had ever saw. The first time I ever saw her, I was a none believer, in fact I would say it was because of her, that my interest in the paranormal first began. Also , a few years before I saw her, my ex used to knock about with his cousin and this woman was at my ex`s aunties, doing readings, well my ex, who at the time was about 17 was laughing with his cousin at her. She turned around and said," Dont make fun of me, You dont believe me do you? Well tonight you will break your leg," That night my ex went to Manchester and started argueing with his cousin this lead to them fighting and he went to kick him, but missed and kicked the car instead, and broke his leg!!!! So I dont know if it was a premonition that she predicted or whether it was a curse.

[Ged]

I take it that's 25 smackeroos each - so £150. Still, if she does have those powers....

You see, if I could do that, I don't know if i'd charge - hmmm, have to think about it.

I do have an interest in the paranormal although i'm sceptical, my interest is that if I search long enough, I might find something believable. Do you think a person with these powers would just pack up doing it?

[lindac8941]

She was brought up around near where I live, then she moved to the town centre, she iis well known in my area, as being a bit spooky. lol. anyhow someone mentioned her to me not long ago and said they thought she had packed it all in, as she now had a baby, but to be truthful, if I was earning that sort of money, I would deffo get a babysitter. Anyhow Ged, my paranormal group is always looking for new members, if your interested let me know by pm. I will give you details of the meetings. We have a good investigation coming up in March. Bacup Theatre, its a fab little old theatre, we have done it before, and last time, me and 2 others had our chairs pulled out from under us. I also have a pic taken there, where there is a shadowy figure in the balcony.

[lindac8941]

Oh and forgot to mention, a ghostly person sat in one of the seats too.

[ItsaZappathing]

If you can wallpaper your hall from your letterbox, then I'd recommend a switch in career? :)

PMSL.:handclap::PDT_Aliboronz_24:

[Samp]

I'd rather be a gynocologist. Fingers into everything them.

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[BernadetteG]

Here's one for you - I've just posted it then found your request for stories ... also I have seen and heard several ghosts from the late 1980's up to around 2002 when I seemed particularly psychically aware of these things. My first was a legless monk who I saw gliding along the pavement just before the flyover on Queen's Drive near Broadgreen. It was about 5.30pm and I was driving home from work in Netherley heading for Waterloo. There was lots of traffic and there was a tailback and I had my eye on the road but could see to the left of me a monk in a brown habit heading towards Childwall Fiveways. I'm not sure but I think there was a school there because I also remember iron railings in the background as he was gliding past them. He had his hood up and his arms were folded inside his sleeves and there was a rope around his waist. At first I just thought, "Wow! I haven't seen a monk dressed like that since I was in primary school and the missionaries came to talk to us." I took my eyes off the road for a second look and just registered that something wasn't quite right about the monk but then I had to quickly pay attention to the road ahead again. Then it registered that the monk was gliding along, not walking, and that below the knee he just disappeared, no legs, no feet were visible, yet above the knee he looked as solid as I did. I can tell you I gripped my steering wheel so tight I thought my knuckles would break, the hair on the back of my neck stood up and as the monk got level with my car I sort of watched him out of the corner of my eye, too afraid to turn my head. I saw him glide past and I looked in my rear view mirror and he wasn't there, which amazed me because he certainly wasn't a misty phantom, he was solid from head to knee, but below the knee there was just nothing. After he passed, the tailback suddenly started shifting quickly forward and I should have got done for speeding that day because I drove home like a bat out of hell. All the way home I was saying to myself "You've just seen a ghost! You have just - seen - a - ghost!" When I got home I was speechless and I don't drink alcohol but I poured myself a glass of wine and gulped it down. My husband walked into the room and stared at me and said "What's wrong with you? You look as if you've just seen a ghost!" All I could say at the time was "I have." Amongst other experiences around that time, the one below was another very vivid sighting.

Ghosts and Timeslips ...
... has anyone ever had a strange experience in Bold Street, Liverpool? Several years ago I was coming out of the exit from Central Station that leads directly into Bold Street and I thought I'd walked into a film set! There were cobblestones and horses and carriages and people dressed in bonnets and long dresses. I'm not sure what period it was but they looked like the people on the Quality Street tin. I was totally disorientated for a few seconds because in my mind I was just going to cross Bold Street and into Waterstones but suddenly all these horses and carriages and people were in the way. First thing I thought was "They're shooting a film and I've walked onto the set, silly me." But as soon as I'd told myself that, everything was back to normal, present day and I was left scratching my head as to what had happened. I definitely needed a cuppa before I did anything else and I think I sat in Cafe 53 for about an hour trying to work out what on earth I'd just experienced. Has anyone else had a similar experience there or can throw any light on what it all means.

[Ged]

Is that you Tom?

[Cadfael]

A ghost Monk 'walking' on Queens Drive by the Fiveways?

The whole area between Fiveways past the Flyover was excavated for Queens Drive so that area isn't at the same level of the fields that once stood there. If this monk was appearing on this road then he must have passed away recently because the floor level of what we have now and what we had then is about 6ft difference so he would have been floating 6ft above the ground if he was walking on the original field level.

[fortinian]

Silly Cad... he wasn't by the Fiveways he was by Broadgreen before the flyover. How BernadetteG knew he was going to the Fiveways is another matter altogether... my bet he was on for a pint... or maybe some spirits. :P

As for the Bold Street time slips... I suggest it happened because you are

a) slightly gullible and open to suggestion
b) mental
c) Shamelessly ripping off one of Tom Slemen's stories
d) Tom Slemen in disguise

If you are genuine Bernadette then I apologise for being rude, I mean no personal insult it's just I find it hard to believe that you've experienced a time slip on Bold Street and came HERE to ask if it's happened before.

A quick Google search for "bold street time slips liverpool" brings up 5,700 hits.

[dazza]

Well said fortinian...a toe bung to the forces of unsubstantiated wibble, that dare to show their ghoulish faces around here.

[lindac8941]

I think Bernadettes first story is interesting, as I have seen something not to far from there, which I cannot explain, mine was more like a shadow of an animal, but not a full blown apparition. But I am not sure about the time slip story, Tom Slemens story of the ex policeman coming out of the exit of Central station is quite well known and one of the most famous time slip storys regarding The Bold Street area. Maybe Bernadette is telling the truth, if so maybe she should get in touch with Tom , as I am sure he would be interested in hearing that.

[lindylou]

[QUOTE=fortinian;235224]As for the Bold Street time slips... I suggest it happened because you are

a) slightly gullible and open to suggestion
b) mental

QUOTE]


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/rubinda/avatars/lol.gif :handclap:

[Kid_Amigo]

Seems a certain Mr Slemen has a huge impact on one or two posters on here. Mental can also come under obsession. Whether you think his stories are tripe, fair enough, but to be practically on anyone like a Lurcher to a kitten who seem to have a interest or similar experience to one of his stories, well, glad I don't arouse such 'interest' from such people.

PS no I am not him before no doubt some of you will predictably ask :rolleyes:

[lindylou]

I laugh at the people being so gullible, not at Tom Slemen. He's just writing books.



people who believe in Bold st timeslips and the like ... ... ... yes well.

[pablo42]

I laugh at the people being so gullible, not at Tom Slemen. He's just writing books.



people who believe in Bold st timeslips and the like ... ... ... yes well.

Oh you cynic Lindy...

[Kid_Amigo]

Do you think people who believe in God are gullible, Lindy?

I find a lot of Mr Slemens stories a stretch, but I know so many people who have claimed to have had a paranormal experience that I keep an open mind. I myself brushed off what could be considered a Paranormal experience in my old flat, due to the fact I was over-tired, could not sleep and worked all that particular week doing erratic shifts at my place of work. So I don't consider myself gullible, just open to possibilities.

[johnreppion]

I have to say this thread seems to have taken a bit of a nasty turn.

Whether you believe in people's stories or not (and some are certainly more unbelievable than others) I don't think there's really any reason to "laugh at people who are so gullible", call them mad, etc. All seems a bit out of order to me to be honest. You wouldn't attack people's religious beliefs (for example) just because they might not be your own. I'm not sure why, if people are genuinely not bothered or interested in the supernatural (or "unexplained" or however you want to put it), they'd bother having a go at others who are.

I should point out that I am not someone who has ever seen a ghost or had a profound supernatural experience but neither do I just dismiss anything that whiffs of the paranormal as nonsense. I'm very interested in folklore and history and the supernatural is very often a big feature of both - stories (true or not) of ghosts and apparitions often provide a fascinating and engaging link to the history of a place.

That's not to say that every story is important (or credible or even interesting) but just because some aren't that doesn't automatically make the entire field a load of rubbish. If you want to just take the p**s and have a laugh I think there are plenty of other threads for that.

I'm not defending anyone's stories here but I think just spending post after post giving people stick and not actually adding anything to the topic seems a bit sad. Gang of bored kids talking loudly at the back of the bus so everyone else has to listen whether they like it or not. Know what I mean?

[lindac8941]

I have read all of Tom`s Books and do know Tom personally. Even I cant get my head around `time slips` although I wish it would happen to me. Well thinking about it, it does happen to me sometimes.........when I look in my wardrobe.

[lindac8941]

I have most probably had more paranormal experiences than a lot of people on here, but I dont blame anyone who doesnt believe, each to their own opinion. No one can change my mind in what I think, as to many things have happened to me for me to deny things.