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researchwriter
08-15-2007, 05:53 PM
Hi all,
As some of you might already have read in this thread (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5607), I'm currently working on some sample chapters for a book about Liverpool's ghosts and hauntings (not in any way connected to Tom Slemen's work).

I'd love to hear from anyone who has any ghostly accounts of their own to share or some haunted places they'd like to recommend for inclusion.

I'm aiming to make the book as factual as possible, including as much of the documented history of the buildings/areas/people as I can find and interviewing witnesses personally if possible.

Obviously, I can't give too much away about what I'm working on but, if you're interested in seeing a sample of my work, you can read my article about The Childe Of Hale on the Fortean Times website HERE (http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/146/the_childe_of_hale.html)

Thanks in advance for your help.

Cheers.

DaisyChains
08-16-2007, 01:08 PM
hiya
I am sorry to be vague, but I know one of the houses on Princes Avenue/Road were haunted.
I am sure it's near Princes Park gates somewhere

researchwriter
08-16-2007, 02:08 PM
I found mention of a poltergeist in Madryn Street (one of the Welsh Streets) during the 90's online but, other than that, the only haunted Toxteth stuff I've turned up thus far is some of Tom Slemen's work (which I definitely don't want to use as a source).

SteveFaragher
08-16-2007, 06:14 PM
Tell tom what you want to hear and he'll make sure the story fits wahtever you want,

researchwriter
08-17-2007, 03:02 PM
Tell tom what you want to hear and he'll make sure the story fits whatever you want.Yeah well, I certainly have no intention of questioning the validity of Mr. Slemen's work publically - he's written a lot of books and articles and people are obviously interested in what he has to say. However, many of the stories he writes (especially those related to hauntings and anomalies) are very difficult to find other evidence for (such as newspaper articles, etc). Also, all of his work is copywrited so, even if I did want to use him as a source, I couldn't.

At the moment I'm specifically interested in any hauntings or ghostly encounters in north and east Liverpool. Haunted pubs anyone? Some of you must know a landlord or two surely? :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

PhilipG
08-18-2007, 07:55 AM
A lot of people have a deep-seated need to believe in the fantastic (and unbelievable).
I don't understand this need, but it prevents them from attempting to listen to any sort of logical explanation for their outrageous claims.
I suppose it's best not to try to enter into a "discussion" with them.

researchwriter
08-27-2007, 02:52 PM
A lot of people have a deep-seated need to believe in the fantastic (and unbelievable).
I don't understand this need, but it prevents them from attempting to listen to any sort of logical explanation for their outrageous claims.
I suppose it's best not to try to enter into a "discussion" with them.Not quite sure what promoted that Phil as no one's actually made any fantastic claims here (more's the pity). I've got no particular beliefs of my own concerning ghosts and the supernatural but I think that strange or unexplained phenomena can often be very interesting. I'm all for investigating such cases, I don't think things should just be blindly believed. However, if someone genuinely believes they have had a supernatural experience then it's a reality to them and I'm definitely not in favor of trying to talk people out of their beliefs, however much I might disagree.

Ged
09-05-2007, 01:02 PM
The Punch Bowl in Thornton, Sefton is supposed to be one of the most haunted pubs in Britain but the only spirits I've ever seen in there were behind the bar on a shelf. Perhaps only certain susceptible people are privy to seeing them, of which i'm not one.

Cadfael
09-05-2007, 01:20 PM
Funny this thread has come up while I've been watching a DVD with Richard Felix and his UK Ghost Tour.

For what it's worth, I have seen a ghost - or something that would explain it as a ghost and it scared the crap out of me, but at the same time, gave me comfort that there is something in the afterlife. I can recall the story like it was yesterday and am a rational person who just wasnt expecting what I saw.

Believing in ghosts has nothing to do with religion at all or the need for something fantastic. But I also believe that some people don't have the (if this is the right word), 'ability' to ever see a ghost.

If you think ghosts don't exist (and people are welcome to believe what they see until they are proved othewise), take a dog in to a well known haunted location and see how they react. They'll normally chew through their own leg to get out of there.

Ged
09-05-2007, 02:36 PM
Tell us more Jona (if you wanna)

I'm a sceptic but open minded all the same (mainly because my missus said she's seen one and when she enquired about it to her parents/grandparents when they were all living together - it was hushed up) besides, she'd kill me if I called her a liar.

She's been told at a reading that she is 'spiritual/open to these things' without her mentioning it. (though don't get me started on mediums or psychics either ha ha)

The thing is, I don't necessarily believe that these ghosts or people who have passed on have the choice or not whether they make a re-show. My dad told me he'd show back up if possible, he was very philisophical about his impending death (even arranging his own wake, funeral and thank you verse) , - he hasn't shown so far and it's been 19 years, perhaps a ghost is in turmoil?

Cadfael
09-05-2007, 03:26 PM
Happened around the time of my nan's death. I was taking a drink in the kitchen in our house. We live in a small semi so the downstairs rooms are the lounge and the kitchen/diner is another room.

By the sink there is a window and the blind was pulled down. The only light that was on was in the lounge and all blinds downstairs were pulled.

I was the only chap in the house and was getting a drink when going up to bed when I noticed a figure (shadow of a person) move across the window. At first I thought that there was someone outside and they were going to break in (good luck to em!) but then the shadow then moved to the inside wall next to the window - so it would be impossible to be cast from outside directly. There was no one in the house and there was no one walking past outside as the blinds were pulled. I started to go very cold at this point - not because of what I had seen, but the room got cold - I sensed I had seen something strange and naffed off to bed quick time!

The next night, I set up the blinds like it was the previous night and noticed that I could recreate the shadow when I walked in the lounge but could only cast part of the shadow on the inner wall - whatever it was had clearly either gone through the kitchen or was walking in the lounge casting the shadow.

To this day I've no idea what it was, but I can tell you that it was the figure of someone's shadow going past me.

ChrisGeorge
09-05-2007, 03:46 PM
The Punch Bowl in Thornton, Sefton is supposed to be one of the most haunted pubs in Britain but the only spirits I've ever seen in there were behind the bar on a shelf. Perhaps only certain susceptible people are privy to seeing them, of which i'm not one.


Interesting story, Cadfael. Thanks so much for sharing it. I would be inclined to think that you really did experience something.

In regard to your post, Ged, similarly when I toured part of Battlecrease House, the former Maybrick mansion on Riversdale Road, Aigburth, at the time of the 2003 Ripper convention at the Adelphi, the tenant told us that he had experienced something when he drank Stella Artois! A facetious reply, of course.

Chris

researchwriter
09-05-2007, 10:07 PM
The Punch Bowl in Thornton, Sefton is supposed to be one of the most haunted pubs in Britain but the only spirits I've ever seen in there were behind the bar on a shelf. Perhaps only certain susceptible people are privy to seeing them, of which i'm not one.Cheers Ged, I'll look into that.:PDT_Piratz_26:

researchwriter
09-05-2007, 10:10 PM
Happened around the time of my nan's death. I was taking a drink in the kitchen in our house. We live in a small semi so the downstairs rooms are the lounge and the kitchen/diner is another room.

By the sink there is a window and the blind was pulled down. The only light that was on was in the lounge and all blinds downstairs were pulled.

I was the only chap in the house and was getting a drink when going up to bed when I noticed a figure (shadow of a person) move across the window. At first I thought that there was someone outside and they were going to break in (good luck to em!) but then the shadow then moved to the inside wall next to the window - so it would be impossible to be cast from outside directly. There was no one in the house and there was no one walking past outside as the blinds were pulled. I started to go very cold at this point - not because of what I had seen, but the room got cold - I sensed I had seen something strange and naffed off to bed quick time!

The next night, I set up the blinds like it was the previous night and noticed that I could recreate the shadow when I walked in the lounge but could only cast part of the shadow on the inner wall - whatever it was had clearly either gone through the kitchen or was walking in the lounge casting the shadow.

To this day I've no idea what it was, but I can tell you that it was the figure of someone's shadow going past me.Thanks for sharing that Cadfael. It's funny just how many people seem to have had these smaller, urban experiences. I think it's stuff that gets written off very often but there must be a reason why people remember these experiences years later. Whereabouts were you living at the time by the way?

researchwriter
09-05-2007, 11:21 PM
By the way, my proposal was accepted so I'm definitely writing the book now. All help greatly appreciated.

Cadfael
09-06-2007, 10:56 AM
Thanks for sharing that Cadfael. It's funny just how many people seem to have had these smaller, urban experiences. I think it's stuff that gets written off very often but there must be a reason why people remember these experiences years later. Whereabouts were you living at the time by the way?

Living in the family home. My nan always wanted to be cremated in our back garden so we scattered the ashes in a dark corner.

The only other experience that my family have had is that both my grandad and my aunty have seen my late father on two occasions after he passed away in 1983. They were both level and would have not concocted any story to upset us kids if it wasn't true.

Although ghosts are not to do with religion, I believe in the afterlife purely because I know (or at least want to know) that I'll meet up with my family members again someday.

verdi
09-10-2007, 09:27 AM
Have not had any encounters as such myself. But was told about the Madryn street one by the man who it happened to !! It is a interesting and funny story, concerning a wardrobe?? :shock:

researchwriter
09-10-2007, 11:02 AM
Have not had any encounters as such myself. But was told about the Madryn street one by the man who it happened to !! It is a interesting and funny story, concerning a wardrobe?? :shock:Really? :eek: Is there any chance you could pout me in touch with the man in question or that you could recount his story to me? I've not been able to find much out on that one at all. You can send me a message on here or my email is haunted_liverpool@btinternet.com.

Cheers.

Wallasey Al
02-25-2008, 03:23 PM
I don't know if you have written the book or what? I saw a ghost in my old house years ago. It wasn't until some years later that my brother said he saw it all the time. He had never said anything about it until then.

I did tell a certain Mr Slemen this story but when I read his version, I had changed into a female (ouch) and the whole story had been changed. I don't know the copyright laws but the true story has not been told.

Ged
02-25-2008, 03:37 PM
Ha ha, If the whole story had been changed, then it clearly wasn't your one.

Unless....... da ra daaaar.

We now have first hand evidence of ghoulie tinkering ;)

Max
02-25-2008, 04:10 PM
I don't know if you have written the book or what? I saw a ghost in my old house years ago. It wasn't until some years later that my brother said he saw it all the time. He had never said anything about it until then.

I did tell a certain Mr Slemen this story but when I read his version, I had changed into a female (ouch) and the whole story had been changed. I don't know the copyright laws but the true story has not been told.

Did you describe you as some woman out of a fairy tale with gorgeous red hair and a little freckle?:eek:

Wallasey Al
02-25-2008, 05:35 PM
Oh dear not put my case very well have I? I meant it was my story but he had tinkered with it no doubt so that I couldn't claim copyright or any credit. As if I would but it is annoying.

Just the names and locations have been changed to protect ..... well it isn't the innocent put it that way.

You are Tom S and I claim my five bob!! :ninja:

Ged
02-25-2008, 11:29 PM
There is a thread on T.S. read it and his books and determine if any real credibility is to be given.

researchwriter
03-04-2008, 10:50 PM
Alright Al, currently putting the finishing touches to the book. Not much room left (especially for stuff that's outside of Liverpool and just in Merseyside generally) but I'd love to hear your story. You can email me at haunted_liverpool@btinternet.com or PM me on here.

Cheers

researchwriter
03-19-2008, 11:35 AM
Right, I have finished the book; the manuscript and images are winging their way towards the publisher as I type.

Thanks to everyone here who has helped with Haunted Liverpool, I genuinely could not have written it without your assistance.

I've set up a blog at www.hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com (http://www.hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com) which has an abridged piece from the book up already. Please take a look and let me know what you think. I hope to get it a bit more sorted quite soon so do keep checking.

Thanks again

Cheers.

DaisyChains
03-19-2008, 01:13 PM
Right, I have finished the book; the manuscript and images are winging their way towards the publisher as I type.

Thanks to everyone here who has helped with Haunted Liverpool, I genuinely could not have written it without your assistance.

I've set up a blog at www.hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com (http://www.hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com) which has an abridged piece from the book up already. Please take a look and let me know what you think. I hope to get it a bit more sorted quite soon so do keep checking.



Cheers.

good stuff.
Please let us know when it's out!
Thanks again

researchwriter
03-19-2008, 02:27 PM
good stuff.
Please let us know when it's out!
Thanks again
Will do. ;)

researchwriter
04-11-2008, 03:03 AM
I am very pleased to report that I am now taking pre-orders for the the special edition of 800 Years of Haunted Liverpool (limited to 26 lettered and 24 numbered copies) featuring an exclusive bookplate by artist Mo Ali and signed by myself.

Also included is a special bonus article “The Underground Empire of Joseph Williamson” in the form of a handmade booklet signed by myself and its illustrator Leah Moore.

Each volume costs £9.99 (plus postage and packing).

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm319/hauntedliverpool/Haunted-Liverpool-banner.gif (http://moorereppion.bigcartel.com/product/pre-order-800-years-of-haunted-liverpool-limited-edition)

Click on the banner above to reserve your copy (books will ship in early July 2008).

Cheers. :D

researchwriter
04-11-2008, 03:08 AM
I'm also trying to get a launch sorted for late June in the city center. I'd be made up if some you would be interested in coming; the people on this forum have been an enormous help in writing the book and I'm very grateful to all of you.

Cadfael
04-11-2008, 10:03 AM
I am very pleased to report that I am now taking pre-orders for the the special edition of 800 Years of Haunted Liverpool (limited to 26 lettered and 24 numbered copies) featuring an exclusive bookplate by artist Mo Ali and signed by myself.

Also included is a special bonus article “The Underground Empire of Joseph Williamson” in the form of a handmade booklet signed by myself and its illustrator Leah Moore.

Each volume costs £9.99 (plus postage and packing).

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm319/hauntedliverpool/Haunted-Liverpool-banner.gif (http://moorereppion.bigcartel.com/product/pre-order-800-years-of-haunted-liverpool-limited-edition)

Click on the banner above to reserve your copy (books will ship in early July 2008).

Cheers. :D

Be interesting to read your Williamson book seeing as the last one was utter tripe. Did you get your sources from the usual places, Richard WE, Charles Hand, James Stonehouse?

researchwriter
04-11-2008, 02:02 PM
Be interesting to read your Williamson book seeing as the last one was utter tripe. Did you get your sources from the usual places, Richard WE, Charles Hand, James Stonehouse?Which last one is that then?

Cadfael
04-11-2008, 03:02 PM
Which last one is that then?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/1411617924/ref=dp_olp_2

'Years of research'. And 99% of it 'hearsay' and 'stories'. :rolleyes:

researchwriter
04-11-2008, 04:04 PM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/1411617924/ref=dp_olp_2

'Years of research'. And 99% of it 'hearsay' and 'stories'. :rolleyes:Oh, I hadn't heard of that before. I take it you wouldn't recommend it then? :unibrow:

My little article is unlikely to knock the socks off anyone already familiar with Mr. Williamson and his life's work. It's an updated version of an piece that was originally published in Strange Attractor Volume Three back in 2006. Hopefully, it will be an interesting and pleasant little bonus though, especially with the new illustrations and everything.

So far as getting my sources from the "usual places" goes; yeah, I suppose I did looking at the short list you've given. My end notes/references for the original article read thusly:

[1] Charles R. Hand: Joseph Williamson “The King Of Edge Hill” (Transactions of the Historical Society of Lancashire and Cheshire 1927).
[2] The Story (www.williamsonstunnels.com).
[3] The Story (www.williamsonstunnels.com).
[4] Richard Whittington-Egan: Joseph Williamson Maker Of Catacombs.
[5] Richard Whittington-Egan: Joseph Williamson Maker Of Catacombs.
[6] The Story (www.williamsonstunnels.com).
[7] The Story (www.williamsonstunnels.com).
[8] Richard Whittington-Egan: Joseph Williamson Maker Of Catacombs.
[9] James Stonehouse: The Streets Of Liverpool (1869).
[10] Richard Whittington-Egan: Joseph Williamson Maker Of Catacombs.
[11] James Stonehouse: The Streets Of Liverpool (1869).
[12] The Story (www.williamsonstunnels.com).
[13] Charles R. Hand: Joseph Williamson “The King Of Edge Hill” (Transactions of the Historical Society of Lancashire and Cheshire 1927).
[14] Charles R. Hand: Joseph Williamson “The King Of Edge Hill” (Transactions of the Historical Society of Lancashire and Cheshire 1927).
[15] Tom Slemen: Haunted Liverpool 2, page 59 (Bluecoat Press, Liverpool 2000).
[16] Charles R. Hand: Joseph Williamson “The King Of Edge Hill” (Transactions of the Historical Society of Lancashire and Cheshire 1927).
[17] Email interview with Frank Hodges (FOWT Company Secretary and Membership Secretary).
[18] Email interview with Frank Hodges (FOWT Company Secretary and Membership Secretary).
[19] The Story (www.williamsonstunnels.com).
[20] FOWT Information Pack, page 20 (2001).

With thanks to Chris Sharples (FOWT Chairman) for all his assistance.

Cadfael
04-11-2008, 05:51 PM
Oh, I hadn't heard of that before. I take it you wouldn't recommend it then? :unibrow:

My little article is unlikely to knock the socks off anyone already familiar with Mr. Williamson and his life's work. It's an updated version of an piece that was originally published in Strange Attractor Volume Three back in 2006. Hopefully, it will be an interesting and pleasant little bonus though, especially with the new illustrations and everything.

So far as getting my sources from the "usual places" goes; yeah, I suppose I did looking at the short list you've given. My end notes/references for the original article read thusly:

You've gone to some good sources there. I know Chris and Frank personally (via the FOWT) so they'll have given lots of information and of course the website is a wealth of information too.

I'm in the middle of doing 'the' book on Williamson and the Tunnels too at the moment. I've been a guide at the Paddington/House section for many years now and saw the Heritage Centre when it was still the Stable Yard (see my www.smithdownlane.com)

Good luck with it! :PDT11

fortinian
04-12-2008, 12:15 AM
I don't hold much hope for your book Cad if your research techniques led you to believe Researchwriter was David Clensy - a bloke who lives in Bristol and seems to live his life exclusively for his own self-promotion. :D

Cadfael
04-12-2008, 10:28 AM
I don't hold much hope for your book Cad if your research techniques led you to believe Researchwriter was David Clensy - a bloke who lives in Bristol and seems to live his life exclusively for his own self-promotion. :D


I've not once said that RW is David Clensy??

ChrisGeorge
04-12-2008, 10:43 AM
I've not once said that RW is David Clensy??

In fact, going by his new blog on Haunted Liverpool (http://www.hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com/), researchwriter is John Reppion, described as a "Freelance writer of articles, short stories and comic books."

Chris

fortinian
04-12-2008, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by researchwriter View Post
I am very pleased to report that I am now taking pre-orders for the the special edition of 800 Years of Haunted Liverpool (limited to 26 lettered and 24 numbered copies) featuring an exclusive bookplate by artist Mo Ali and signed by myself.

Also included is a special bonus article “The Underground Empire of Joseph Williamson” in the form of a handmade booklet signed by myself and its illustrator Leah Moore.

Each volume costs £9.99 (plus postage and packing).



Click on the banner above to reserve your copy (books will ship in early July 2008).

Cheers.


Be interesting to read your Williamson book seeing as the last one was utter tripe. Did you get your sources from the usual places, Richard WE, Charles Hand, James Stonehouse?

Maybe I mis-read this Cad. I thought you implied that RWs last book was utter tripe - then linked to David Clensys book page!

I haven't seen Clensys book or RWs but i'm looking forward to it.

__________________

Cadfael
04-12-2008, 11:16 AM
Maybe I mis-read this Cad. I thought you implied that RWs last book was utter tripe - then linked to David Clensys book page!

I haven't seen Clensys book or RWs but i'm looking forward to it.


Haha you really think I would insult another member of Yo as direct as that?

Nope, you've misread, I've only seen DC's book and THAT was tripe.
RW clearly has researched information on the new book and I'm looking forward to a read of that.

:PDT11

fortinian
04-12-2008, 01:05 PM
Ho ho... sorry Cad! I thought it was a little out of character for you to insult someone like that, I got rather defensive on RWs part!

researchwriter
04-12-2008, 05:11 PM
Blimey! Sorry to have caused any confusion chaps. My name is John Reppion as Chris rightly said. Thanks for jumping in anyway Fortinian, nice to know who's on your side if it comes to a fight. And cheers to you too Cadfael, I didn't know you were involved with the FOWT. Make sure you keep us up to date with the book too, I'll look forward to that.

Cadfael
04-12-2008, 05:40 PM
Blimey! Sorry to have caused any confusion chaps. My name is John Reppion as Chris rightly said. Thanks for jumping in anyway Fortinian, nice to know who's on your side if it comes to a fight. And cheers to you too Cadfael, I didn't know you were involved with the FOWT. Make sure you keep us up to date with the book too, I'll look forward to that.

:hug: all round hehe.

Yeah, I've been in every accessible part of the network, including the Triple Decker tunnel - which about 20 people have ever seen since the 1800's.
Any other info you need, shout!

researchwriter
06-09-2008, 05:29 PM
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm319/hauntedliverpool/Untitled-1copy.jpg

800 Years of Haunted Liverpool will be officially launched at the Unity Theatre (http://www.unitytheatreliverpool.co.uk/findus.htm) in Liverpool on Saturday the 5th of July 2008 between 6 and 8pm. The Unity bar is fully licensed with Cains Bitter (http://www.cains.co.uk/index/articles_view.php?main_cat=1&cat_id=44&article_id=34&logger_name=Cains%20Finest%20Bitter) on tap *slurp*.

I'll do my very best to give a short talk giving a bit of background on how the book came about and what it was like to work on. Limited edition copies of 800 Years of Haunted Liverpool will also be on sale for £9.99.

If you do plan on coming, please post here or drop me an email at haunted_liverpool@btinternet.com, as places will be limited.

Looking forward to seeing you there!

-----------------------

Also, if you're still undecided as to whether you fancy investing in a copy of the 800 Years..., you can pick up a copy of Fortean Times Magazine #238 (http://www.forteantimes.com/) at the end of this month which will feature an excerpt from the book all about the infamous Spring Heeled Jack and his visits to Liverpool.

More info and updates over at www.hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com

Cheers! :D

ChrisGeorge
06-09-2008, 05:31 PM
Very good, John. Good luck with the book launch! :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

I've given your book a plug on a couple of Ripper forums.

Chris

researchwriter
06-09-2008, 06:03 PM
Very good, John. Good luck with the book launch! :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

I've given your book a plug on a couple of Ripper forums.

ChrisCheers Chris, very much appreciated. :PDT11

Ged
06-09-2008, 09:23 PM
Good luck John. Though i'm sceptical of such things, there's a place for everything and there's nothing like a good ghost story and I see at least you've tried to verify your findings.

researchwriter
06-09-2008, 09:42 PM
Good luck John. Though i'm sceptical of such things, there's a place for everything and there's nothing like a good ghost story and I see at least you've tried to verify your findings.Thanks Ged.

I'm not exactly a "believer" myself but I try to keep an open mind. With this book I've simply taken people at their word and reported what they've told me of their experiences. Then I've tried to look at the history surrounding the happenings (if any exists) and place the whole thing in context. It's as much a book about local history as anything really.

AntiPathos
06-10-2008, 09:17 AM
Well done on getting this published. I suppose CoC helped some(?). I've read a few bits you have written and it's clear that you do know how to assemble words on pages in a thoroughly legible manner.

It's a pity that this isn't listed on Amazon because I have really been looking forward to another dazzling review by "Cryptid Frank (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/pdp/profile/A3UP8I3J94TCDJ/ref=cm_cr_dp_pdp)", whose views of other Liverpool author's books are so enlightening. Frankie doesn't much like other people writing about Liverpool and it's ghosts but he sure loves his Tom Slemen books!!!

Hang on a minute. . . No, surely not ... it can't be. Can it? He wouldn't. Would he? Nah... That's beneath him.

...or is it? :)

AP.

Ged
06-10-2008, 09:22 AM
I wouldn't bank on the CoC having had anything to do with it, and I speak from experience.

researchwriter
06-10-2008, 03:17 PM
I've read a few bits you have written and it's clear that you do know how to assemble words on pages in a thoroughly legible manner.Thank you, that's what I'm aiming for. ;)

Should be listed on Amazon by the time of the launch I think. Looking forward to seeing what "Cryptid Frank" thinks of it (I'll get my pinch of salt ready).

No help from the CoC with the book in terms of getting it written or published but maybe the interest might help sales a bit (I can dream).

Anyone fancy a pint in the Unity on the 5th of July then? :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Ged
06-10-2008, 04:06 PM
I would but for being at a wedding at SFX but good luck with it.

researchwriter
06-10-2008, 10:41 PM
I would but for being at a wedding at SFX but good luck with it.Ah well, that's a decent enough excuse I suppose. I'll let you off.

spooky
06-14-2008, 07:41 PM
Hi all if you want to so see some of toms stories reinacted then book a ghost walk in conjunction with freshfields animal rescue centre, i went the other night it was great got the details off the animal charity website www.freshfieldsrescue.org bring a torch the walk arround the cemetary is very spooky...thats strange because thats my name !!!!!!!

researchwriter
06-16-2008, 11:35 PM
Hi all if you want to so see some of toms stories reinacted then book a ghost walk in conjunction with freshfields animal rescue centre, i went the other night it was great got the details off the animal charity website www.freshfieldsrescue.org bring a torch the walk arround the cemetary is very spooky...thats strange because thats my name !!!!!!!I think you've got the wrong Haunted Liverpool thread here Spooky. Now then, for MY haunted walking tour... no, I'm only kidding. Good luck to Mr Slemen and, of course, it's all for a worthy cause.

By the way, did I mention this? Book launch. Unity Theatre. 5th July. 6-8 pm. Hope to see you there. ;)

Ged
06-17-2008, 09:51 AM
I see Tom sl-ags off the Shiverpool tour on his homepage. Hmmm.

fortinian
06-17-2008, 08:42 PM
That's like Kev saying: 'YoLiverpool does not recommend icLiverpool'

Is little Tommy feeling threatened?

researchwriter
07-02-2008, 11:09 AM
Only a few days to go until the launch now. Really hope to see some of you there in spite of the Doctor Who finale clashing (we all use Sky+ or BBCi now anyway don't we? Or there's always the video of course).

researchwriter
07-02-2008, 07:41 PM
All pre-ordered limited editions have been posted out today so, if you bought one (thanks if you did) you can expect a book in the next few days. :PDT_Piratz_26:

crusoe
07-05-2008, 11:24 AM
Yes indeed, the book arrived this morning all numbered and signed and all, and looks very interesting - looking forward to starting to read it around midnight or so when the candles burn down low... Thanks John!

sohel1
07-05-2008, 11:54 AM
There is an awful lot that I do know, privately within my family and I wish sometimes it were known publicly of the mental torment and heartbreak endured to my great grandparents and grandparents and great uncles during the trial and after Uncle Georgie's execution. To this day we still carry the scars and heartache in many different ways.

AntiPathos
07-05-2008, 03:10 PM
There is an awful lot that I do know, privately within my family and I wish sometimes it were known publicly of the mental torment and heartbreak endured to my great grandparents and grandparents and great uncles during the trial and after Uncle Georgie's execution. To this day we still carry the scars and heartache in many different ways.

Why the quote from Emma Gill and why in this thread ?

researchwriter
07-06-2008, 09:26 PM
Yes indeed, the book arrived this morning all numbered and signed and all, and looks very interesting - looking forward to starting to read it around midnight or so when the candles burn down low... Thanks John!Thanks crusoe, I really hope you enjoy it. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

researchwriter
07-06-2008, 09:27 PM
Why the quote from Emma Gill and why in this thread ?Yeah, a bit random that. Spam?

Max
07-06-2008, 10:13 PM
I buy the Fortean Times each month and sometimes post on their forum.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Not read the article yet but like the old photos of Everton In the article.

researchwriter
07-07-2008, 12:10 PM
I buy the Fortean Times each month and sometimes post on their forum.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:Then you're a better man than I; I've been trying for years to get their message board to work. I've had dozens of confirmation emails and can sometimes log in and SEE the posts but I've never actually been allowed to post anything. :neutral:

Not read the article yet but like the old photos of Everton In the article.Yeah, they look good don't they? That was actually FT's doing - nice bit of research on their part.

Singlesnights
07-07-2008, 09:48 PM
Hi,

Very interested to read your post. I am the Webmaster of the No. 1 site on Google for true ghost stories. I know it would be naughty to mention my site's url here, but if you want the full url, please contact me and I would be happy to email it to you.

I am sure you will find my site very interesting, as have the many thousands of people who visit it every month!

researchwriter
07-08-2008, 12:04 AM
Hi,

Very interested to read your post. I am the Webmaster of the No. 1 site on Google for true ghost stories. I know it would be naughty to mention my site's url here, but if you want the full url, please contact me and I would be happy to email it to you.

I am sure you will find my site very interesting, as have the many thousands of people who visit it every month!Erm, how come your signature is a link to a singles night? Why are my threads getting spammed so much? This is quite odd...

[Edited - due to the dreaded "post pub post" syndrome]

Ged
07-08-2008, 09:39 AM
Oh pray tell - does he make them up like somebody else we know?

Is there a top google site for 'untrue' ghost stories then?

Anyway, the signature for a ghost site is like a singles night: Nothing any good ever shows up!

AntiPathos
07-08-2008, 10:07 AM
The clue was in his opener. Search Google for the text string given (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=True+Ghost+Stories&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a). Not the busiest forum ever but hey...

AP.

Singlesnights
07-08-2008, 11:21 PM
The reason why my signature links to a singles site is because I have just set that site up and want some new members.

I can't very well put ALL my urls in my signature, can I? Of course, if you want the url for the True Ghost Stories site, I would be perfectly happy to send it to you. Alternatively, you can type in the search term "true ghost stories", and you will get there.






Erm, how come your signature is a link to a singles night? Why are my threads getting spammed so much? This is quite odd...

[Edited - due to the dreaded "post pub post" syndrome]

cobbett clayton
07-09-2008, 01:40 AM
Hi
I used to run a website about spirits and one time someone sent me a story of a spirit in Liverpool for the site. It was a 'ghost' that had been seen a few times in Liverpool, but this story went, Young lad approaches a bus stop, there's a young girl there freezing, so the boy lends her his jacket, they talk for a while but realising she's missed the last bus so she decides to walk home cutting through the grave yard. (Say her name was Susan cos I cant remember), the boy decides its not a good idea she walks home alone and takes off through the grave yard after her to escort her safely home, when he comes upon his jacket hung on a grave stone, and the name on the grave is Susan's. She had died years previous on a cold night after having missed the last bus home.
Has any one else heard this one before?
and how many books did you sell on your launch?

Ged
07-09-2008, 09:32 AM
Yes, that one is in one of the early Tom Slemen books before I got 'onto them'

This is the only spirits site i've ever found to be of worth and the text is true.


http://www.cooletc.com/gb/home.asp





.

PhilipG
07-09-2008, 04:56 PM
It's interesting to have some clue about what Librarians think of Slemen's fans. :PDT_Piratz_26:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3075/2653219064_f1b7e84a34_o.jpg

researchwriter
07-10-2008, 12:48 AM
Hi
I used to run a website about spirits and one time someone sent me a story of a spirit in Liverpool for the site. It was a 'ghost' that had been seen a few times in Liverpool, but this story went, Young lad approaches a bus stop, there's a young girl there freezing, so the boy lends her his jacket, they talk for a while but realising she's missed the last bus so she decides to walk home cutting through the grave yard. (Say her name was Susan cos I cant remember), the boy decides its not a good idea she walks home alone and takes off through the grave yard after her to escort her safely home, when he comes upon his jacket hung on a grave stone, and the name on the grave is Susan's. She had died years previous on a cold night after having missed the last bus home.
Has any one else heard this one before?
and how many books did you sell on your launch?Yeah, it rings a bell - I think Ged might be right that it's a Slemen-ism.

I've shifted 66 books in total so far and I'm going to be doing another signing very soon.

researchwriter
07-10-2008, 12:51 AM
The reason why my signature links to a singles site is because I have just set that site up and want some new members.

I can't very well put ALL my urls in my signature, can I? Of course, if you want the url for the True Ghost Stories site, I would be perfectly happy to send it to you. Alternatively, you can type in the search term "true ghost stories", and you will get there.It does seem that it might make more sense, purely from a relevance stand point, to use a ghost related name and have a ghost related URL if you were A) affiliated with such a site an trying to promote it and B) posting in an existing thread about ghosts. Just my opinion obliviously.

However, as you're obviously posting elsewhere on the site and talking about other things I suppose it's fair enough. Still, it did seem a bit odd the way you jumped in on the thread.

Ged
07-10-2008, 09:43 AM
It's interesting to have some clue about what Librarians think of Slemen's fans. :PDT_Piratz_26:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3075/2653219064_f1b7e84a34_o.jpg


Another Slemen mystery.

Where is book No.3?

The answer will be in Haunted Liverpool 19.

Max
07-10-2008, 10:44 AM
Haha, I remember on the Pricey show that he said he and his publishers agreed that they would stop at Haunted Liverpool 10.

Ged
07-10-2008, 01:23 PM
Why kill the cash cow ;)

Max
07-10-2008, 01:49 PM
Why kill the cash cow ;)

Good point, theres many gullible Liverpudlians well Into him.

matt
07-14-2008, 01:14 PM
Another Slemen mystery.

Where is book No.3?

The answer will be in Haunted Liverpool 19.


There's one copy in my house. . . .

researchwriter
07-14-2008, 05:02 PM
I braved the weird world of local radio today for the first time ever. The results can be heard here http://hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com/2008/...-bbc-radio.html (http://hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com/2008/07/listen-to-johns-interview-on-bbc-radio.html). It didn't go too badly but I think I should maybe have talked about ghosts a bit more. :(

ChrisGeorge
07-14-2008, 07:37 PM
Yeah, it rings a bell - I think Ged might be right that it's a Slemen-ism.

I've shifted 66 books in total so far and I'm going to be doing another signing very soon.

Congratulations, John. We can't all be Tom Slemen! Keep up the good work.

Chris :hug:

researchwriter
08-07-2008, 11:03 AM
Well done on getting this published. I suppose CoC helped some(?). I've read a few bits you have written and it's clear that you do know how to assemble words on pages in a thoroughly legible manner.

It's a pity that this isn't listed on Amazon because I have really been looking forward to another dazzling review by "Cryptid Frank (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/pdp/profile/A3UP8I3J94TCDJ/ref=cm_cr_dp_pdp)", whose views of other Liverpool author's books are so enlightening. Frankie doesn't much like other people writing about Liverpool and it's ghosts but he sure loves his Tom Slemen books!!!

Hang on a minute. . . No, surely not ... it can't be. Can it? He wouldn't. Would he? Nah... That's beneath him.

...or is it? :)

AP.Well, guess what. He's only gone and done it! Yes Crytid Frank has given my book one star on Amazon and called it a "pale imitation of Slemen". :disgust:

Now I know that we'd joked about it happening previously and it is quite funny so long as you're in on the gag but sadly most people aren't and obviously it's not good for me to have my only review on Amazon be a negative one. Therefore, can I appeal to all you generous folk here who have already purchased a copy of the book to perhaps take a few moments to leave an HONEST review please? Cheers. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

In other (slightly less controversial) 800 Years of haunted Liverpool news: I have an article in #27 of the new, re-launched Paranormal Magazine which covers some of the smaller stories which didn't make it into the book. Also, I was interviewed by Roy Basnett on City Talk FM last week which went pretty well (although I "uhm"ed and "ah"ed a bit too much). You can listen to the interview online now at http://hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com/

Thanks again to everyone here for all their help and support; I genuinely could not have written this book without you . In closing, I feel a quote from Crytid Frank's review might be appropriate: "In some cases the author does not cite first-hand research, but Wikipedia and even a FORUM(!) for his sources"; imagine that! A forum of all things! Whatever next? :unibrow:

Max
08-08-2008, 01:01 AM
Read the book and enjoyed the read.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Felt spooked a bit going home from Formby beach after reading about black dogs though. I get spooked at night alot anyway though just because It's dark haha.

Enjoyed reading about some local history In the book too about the history of the areas you covered.

Would you ever try another Liverpool ghost stories book?

Glad It's not It's not written like a fairytale like Lemens books, after my experiences with Lemen(won;t post any stories though about It, unless your curious enough to PM me) chances are that's him writing the review. No wonder he hasn't finished his Ripper book after 7 years.

He posted this review on Billy Roberts book too.:Smiliz_Kingz_PDT_13

http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/product/1905266421/ref=cm_cr_dp_all_helpful?_encoding=UTF8&coliid=&showViewpoints=1&colid=&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

researchwriter
08-08-2008, 02:04 AM
Cheers Max. Very glad to hear that you enjoyed the book mate. A bit of spookage is always a good sign too; makes me feel I've done my job.

I don't think I'd write another book about Liverpool's ghosts because the market is a bit flooded to be honest. However, I'll definitely continue to write about the region's history, folklore and all that kind of thing.