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Ged
07-17-2011, 11:53 PM
A recent book written by Echo reporter Ken Rogers with an accompanying website which allows you find anyone living within the Everton district in 1960 when the slum clearance programme was underway has created massive interest for not just those affected, but anyone who can emphathise with their plight as planning disasters still go on. Not that everyone wanted their damp, squalid, cold and mouldy surroundings saved but at least rehoused together locally as the vibrant community still intact, and certainly not in lonely sanitised boxes in the sky.

Saturday 16th July saw a mass gathering, which for something that happened so long ago that many have died and many were not even born, was quite remarkable. It was a pleasure to attend even though my patch was a couple of miles further south. It was also great meeting all the forumers that I did.


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Nobody warned us that you needed a month on the slimfast diet to make it up the narrow staircase.

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The clock mechanism - at a rest point on the way up. (it's broke by the way)

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I notice Mart counted the steps up as 108. I wondered why he had his shoes and socks off at the top and was struggling after 20. This pic gives you some idea of how narrow it was so well done to Mart and George espacially ;)

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The view was well worth the climb though. Everton Library and Anfield.

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Not a downed plane but the new Academy School on Heyworth Street.

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Skyscrapers (of sorts) Old and New

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Toawards the Mouth of the Mersey.

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Northwards past Crete & Candia Towers.

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Albion Street estate.

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After parachuting back to terra firma.

The packed hall for a talk on Everton by author of the Lost Tribe of Everton and Echo reporter, Ken Rogers.

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The beautiful ornate ceiling and cast iron pillars forged by John Cragg at his Liverpool foundry. St. Georges church is now grade I listed because of them.

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The sea of heads as a steady stream of those who were ex tribesmen and women and those who were not ebbed and flowed throughout the day.

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Some stained glass. I believe Johnny stained his knickers at the thought of those steps earlier.

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Friends, Romans, Countrymen - lend me your ears.

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Johnny, Debra, Linda and Mart. I felt ashamed when Mart asked the vicar for some wine.

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Arrrgh - Spotted again!! There was just no losing the beggars :)

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Ex Rossy scholars and old neighbours including my wife's aunty Brenda (Breen) and George Rimmer from former streets that were cleared for Everton Park.


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Johnny exchanging details with Margy Anderson once of Clarence Grove and he hadn't even crashed into her - dirty sod.

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julieoapw
07-17-2011, 11:56 PM
Some great shots there Ged. Great to see inside the iron church too - must make an effort to get there - perhaps during Heritage Open Days this year.

Ged
07-18-2011, 12:09 AM
Thanks Julie.

SteH
07-18-2011, 12:14 AM
Great pics there Ged, you got me on the one from the balcony of Ken giving his talk, I'm to the right of the first pillar from the left with the black jacket, glad to see I'm paying attention!
I've no residential comnnection to the area but having worked there for six and a half years prior to this March have developed a great affinity for the place as I know there's some really good people there, loved the photo exhibition in the school and scandalous what they did to the community there, as Ken said population of 128,000 in 1960, now its down to four figures I think.
Unfortunately I had to get off at 1 so couldnt wait around to go up the tower, there must have been a great view from up there.

hmtmaj
07-18-2011, 12:21 AM
Great pics and accompanying text Ged.
I noticed Johnnie is never "Off Duty" eh

Mart

chasevans
07-18-2011, 12:23 AM
Some nice photos, Ged. Especially considering the weather that day, you've made some cracking shots. Couldn't make it myself on the day but it looks like the reunion was successful.
Cheers mate,
Chas :PDT11

Doris Mousdale
07-18-2011, 12:35 AM
Great photos Ged,
Nice to see my brother looking well ( George Rimmer from Roscommon St school and lived in Conyers St ) would have liked to have been there its a b*****r sometimes being 12,000 miles away. Have to say the old neighbourhood looks all green and smart but where are the people?

Gerard Fleming
07-18-2011, 12:52 AM
Excellent photos Ged.. well done lad, particularly like the roof ones..

BlueJeans
07-18-2011, 07:48 AM
Great pics Ged

Stanier
07-18-2011, 10:43 AM
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Sitting next to the column, 3rd pew from the front, centre row is I.

Getting my bearings from The Thistle, I could approximately work out were my old house was in Abbey Street and someone had thoughtfully provided a bench there where I sat for half an hour and pondered the good old days.

lindylou
07-18-2011, 11:00 AM
Really good pictures Ged. :PDT11

I took these -
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I took another snap as Debra was looking away on the first one.

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Everyone looks well ! :PDT11

GeorgePorgie
07-18-2011, 11:02 AM
Double exposure mrsLou. :)

lindylou
07-18-2011, 11:02 AM
:)

GeorgePorgie
07-18-2011, 11:07 AM
Could some take a photo of looking down the ramp of the back of the church,next time they're there....twas where I tried to fly on windy days many times...don't half get windy there ya know. :)

Ged
07-18-2011, 12:42 PM
Thank you everyone for your replies. I'm glad the weather didn't put too many people off.

JMLE
07-18-2011, 02:00 PM
Is that Hinge and Bracket (not Ged and Mart) behind Johnny and Debra?

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Ged
07-18-2011, 03:46 PM
Ha ha - didn't notice them. They're the Everton spacemen tribe.

burkhilly
07-18-2011, 06:19 PM
Well I was sitting virtually next but one to Stainer (to his left)! You can see the back of my head. Great pictures Ged.

Ronijayne
07-19-2011, 01:05 AM
As always Ged. terrific photos. Thank you.

Pegasus
07-22-2011, 01:16 PM
GED.

Great Pic's Mate.

My Maternal Grandfather was Christened at St Georges (or The Iron Church, as it's known).

Ged
07-22-2011, 03:00 PM
Cheers Pegasus. A lot of the visitors that day had some connection with the church, some of them having been married there.

Pegasus
07-22-2011, 06:36 PM
Ged.

I used to live 3-4mins walk away from St Georges (Till I was @5Yrs old), when I first started researching My Family History I met the St Georges Vicar (Rev Black), He made me feel right at Home & He looked through their Registers for Pops Christening, when He found it he let me copy out all the info for free (unlike some Church Ministers).

P.S.
I popped a Donation in their Charity Box when I was leaving.:slywink:

chasevans
07-22-2011, 07:17 PM
:nod:

barizla 66
07-22-2011, 07:30 PM
Brilliant Ged, I was christened at St Georges,many moons ago,thanks for the pics.

lesley1
07-22-2011, 08:21 PM
I wasn't able to attend the reunion at St. Georges but my sister and her husband went and told me all about the day. We were moved from our little house in Upper Potter St. in 1961 and a lot of our friends and neighbours were moved to Kirkby ,Cantril Farm, and some went to Ellesmere Port.
Luckily my Mam insisted along with some others to stay in the area, which meant we went to high rise off Roscommon Street.
All my sisters and brother went to St.Georges Primary school, in fact I was there for the Churches centenary celebrations, when we all got dressed up and the Lord Mayor attended. I would have love to have seen those phpto's.

GeorgePorgie
07-22-2011, 08:43 PM
All my sisters and brother went to St.Georges Primary school

The old school? with Fletcher as the headmaster,baldy fella.

lesley1
07-22-2011, 08:56 PM
That's right.. My eldest sister is eighty, one more Seventy seven, my brother ,then me, then the youngest sister and we all had the same teacher at some point a Miss Cragg and my eldest sister said she was old when she was taught.
Our name was Cairns.

GeorgePorgie
07-22-2011, 09:29 PM
Funnily enough don't remember any of the teachers except the heady,musta made an impact on me for some unknown reason?

1960/1 I first attended there,every morning assembly in the school yard next to the gate at the side wall that led to the church and sing hymns in de church.

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The clock mechanism - at a rest point on the way up. (it's broke by the way)

Well it was workin when we moved,so that gets me off the hook...maybe it was the fella that hanged himself from the bell tower? :)

lesley1
07-22-2011, 09:34 PM
Hi George.. I can remember the outside toilets in the winter... that made an impact on me !!!

Ronijayne
07-23-2011, 02:58 AM
Is that Hinge and Bracket (not Ged and Mart) behind Johnny and Debra?

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I know I am going to hate myself in the morning but, who are Hinge and bracket?

Doris Mousdale
07-23-2011, 05:29 AM
They were a couple of guys dressed as old women who did a double act and sang opera- sounds tood hard but they were funny I think they were university students when they started out

Pegasus
09-10-2011, 07:21 PM
There is a short Vid of Hinge & Bracket on this link:

http://www.hingeandbracket-official.co.uk/DVDS%20of%20Hinge%20&%20Bracket/tvcomedy.htm