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Max
07-23-2007, 10:28 AM
Anyone got It?

Won't open for me.:Smiliz_Kingz_PDT_13

I mostly wanted It for the HDR's and seems that most people must prefer Halo HDR's and stuff like that on flickr.:Smiliz_Kingz_PDT_13

I'm just jelous that worse photos get the comments.:PDT10

baztop3
07-23-2007, 10:53 AM
I have Lightroom what is it doing when you try to open it?

Max
07-23-2007, 11:05 AM
Just won't open.

Max
07-23-2007, 11:08 AM
It's Vignetting I want as well but when I open my Raws I only have White Balance and the styles of White Balance, Rotating the RAW, Zooming In or Exposure composition.

I'm supposed to have Vignetting already when I open my Raws.:PDT_Aliboronz_11:

Gerard
07-23-2007, 11:54 AM
It's Vignetting I want as well but when I open my Raws I only have White Balance and the styles of White Balance, Rotating the RAW, Zooming In or Exposure composition.

I'm supposed to have Vignetting already when I open my Raws.:PDT_Aliboronz_11:


I'd bring them Raws back if I were you Maxie.

Max
07-23-2007, 08:30 PM
?????

Gerard
07-23-2007, 09:15 PM
?????


" when I open my Raws "..Take em back then..


A joke Max..Ha ha and all that...Jaeeeeeeeesss

Max
07-23-2007, 09:25 PM
Show It's a joke then next time.:eek:

Gerard
07-23-2007, 09:32 PM
Show It's a joke then next time.:eek:

How do yer show its a Joke Maxie ?

Yerve either gorra sense of humor or not..

Lighten up Lad..gerrit...Adobe Lightroom.. Lighten up.....Arrrrrrrr forget it

Nice one me :handclap:

Gerard
07-23-2007, 10:17 PM
Anyone got It?

Won't open for me.:Smiliz_Kingz_PDT_13

I mostly wanted It for the HDR's and seems that most people must prefer Halo HDR's and stuff like that on flickr.:Smiliz_Kingz_PDT_13

I'm just jelous that worse photos get the comments.:PDT10



Max.. a bit of advise if you want people to comment on your pictures Lad.
Try saying "Nice picture" now and again and I reckon you will be amazed
by the comments you receive about your great pictures..

People look up to you on here Max..Believe me mate.
Them comments Max about people with worse photo's are uncalled for so get down of your High horse lad.

Max
07-24-2007, 12:27 AM
Max.. a bit of advise if you want people to comment on your pictures Lad.
Try saying "Nice picture" now and again and I reckon you will be amazed
by the comments you receive about your great pictures..

People look up to you on here Max..Believe me mate.
Them comments Max about people with worse photo's are uncalled for so get down of your High horse lad.

Huh?

I say nice pics to alot of people what are you on about?

I don't think theirs nothing wrong with saying people have commented on worse HDR's with the halo and theirs nothing egotistic so your clearly thinking something else.:Smiliz_Kingz_PDT_13

I'm just trying to get the best out of my HDR's by not having Halos or white lines and noticed how people have like that and seem to prefer commenting on that more even though HDR's aren't supposed to be so cooked up .

I don't have to say to people nice photo I don't want to.

I was mostly fustrated because this lightroom won't open for me and I was asking.

My Intent Is to ask for help about Adobe Lightroom.

And your brandname snobbery advice wasn't Uncalled for just because you don't know the difference between constructive criticism and having a go?

I wasn't naming anyone either.

kebabman
07-24-2007, 02:37 AM
Anyone got It?


Yes I have got it?:D

Check out your email for details;)

baztop3
07-24-2007, 09:02 AM
Have you tryed to reinstall it and were did you get the serial key from?

Max
07-24-2007, 10:04 AM
Thanks, got It from a t rent.

snappel
07-24-2007, 01:25 PM
You shouldn't have any trouble doing the things you want in Photoshop, including adding vignetting effect.

And don't get hung up on people commenting on other photos - everyone has their own idea of what they like or what they think is/isn't good. It's all about opinion and point of view. If you're happy with your own work, it shouldn't matter what others think.

Max
07-25-2007, 09:38 AM
You shouldn't have any trouble doing the things you want in Photoshop, including adding vignetting effect.

And don't get hung up on people commenting on other photos - everyone has their own idea of what they like or what they think is/isn't good. It's all about opinion and point of view. If you're happy with your own work, it shouldn't matter what others think.

Is Vignetting white balance? That, zooming In or out, Rotating or exposure comp Is what I get when I open my raws.

Lightroom won't open now either.:Smiliz_Kingz_PDT_13

Says the procedere entry point check remote debugger present could not be located In the dynamic link library kernel32.dll.

snappel
07-25-2007, 11:19 AM
Sounds like it's not installed properly.

No, white balance isn't vignetting. When I open a RAW in Photoshop I have a whole load of features to use. I'll stick up a screenshot tomorrow showing what I mean.

Max
07-27-2007, 12:09 AM
How could It of Installed wrong though?

I've gone through agreeing with the licence and clicking next and If reinstalling It I click on repair.

kat2
07-27-2007, 01:35 AM
Your issues might be centred around the operating system? or components of the operating system (min requirements) I some times had problems with program installs on windows 2003 server edition. Somebody posted in one of the Adobe Forums that Microsoft brought out a program (free) you install this program and look for the setup.exe file of the program your trying to install and put some information in to the address fields and hey presto it loads. I did try compatiblity mode but that didnt work but this program does. I will try and look it up off one of my disks as I did a reformat this morning and put vista on. There is a freeware program out on the net to do with HDR, looks way complicated for me though.
kat

Max
07-27-2007, 01:46 AM
I make the HDR"s In photoshop, I want lightroom for the skies and composition.

Photomatix Is the HDR software but It wouldn't let me merge 3 differently exposed Images for some reason. I put one In the box to merge then wouldn't put another In the generate HDR box and just replaced the previous one I selected.

On Photoshop, you have to manually set the EV unlike on Photomatix.

Gerard
07-27-2007, 02:01 AM
HDR stuff...Im looking for something myself but where does one start one asks one's self...
Bladdy bewildering ??

Was gonna go for CS2 but not many favourable HDR reviews..


http://www.flickr.com/groups/myfirsthdr/discuss/72157594240978519/

snappel
07-27-2007, 08:49 AM
You'll find a pretty comprehensive guide here (http://vanilladays.com/hdr-guide/).

Photomatrix is the best way to do it, and will give the best results. It's got lots of features and is a very powerful bit of software. Photoshop's HDRs aren't really up to much.

Gerard
07-27-2007, 09:43 AM
You'll find a pretty comprehensive guide here (http://vanilladays.com/hdr-guide/).

Photomatrix is the best way to do it, and will give the best results. It's got lots of features and is a very powerful bit of software. Photoshop's HDRs aren't really up to much.

Cheers snappel :PDT11
I got the 2.5 pro 30 day trial last night... Is this the best one?
What else do I need..Will Paint shop pro 11 do or do I need CS2 or lightroom..
Or Do I just Import the piccies into photomatix and away I go?

I also have Elements 5 but I like Paint shop Pro 11 better as I find it easy to use..
Thanks again Lad..G.

baztop3
07-27-2007, 09:44 AM
Yes i agree with snappel Photomatrix is your best bet i use it all the time.

Gerard
07-27-2007, 09:50 AM
Yes i agree with snappel Photomatrix is your best bet i use it all the time.

Hello Baz...but what else do i need with it ?

Gerard
07-27-2007, 09:53 AM
Im getting 2 different names as well
Photomatix and Photomatrix...(with an R)

These are both on the web...are they the same company ?

baztop3
07-27-2007, 10:12 AM
I make the HDR"s In photoshop, I want lightroom for the skies and composition.

Photomatix Is the HDR software but It wouldn't let me merge 3 differently exposed Images for some reason. I put one In the box to merge then wouldn't put another In the generate HDR box and just replaced the previous one I selected.

On Photoshop, you have to manually set the EV unlike on Photomatix.

With Photomatix you can load just one RAW file. Just drag it into photomatrix and you will get this box:

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9318/61568797hn2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Then it will display this:

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3145/48029128uv4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Then at the top click the HDR tab and Tone Mapping:

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7675/35451181sa8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Then basically mess aboult with all the settings till you get the pic you want.

baztop3
07-27-2007, 10:25 AM
Hello Baz...but what else do i need with it ?

Sorry yes it's photomatix, To use it you need to load multiple exposures wich you can do in a few ways, you can either take a picture you have and change the exposure your self for example open the pic in Photoshop, CS2 or similar then change the exposure to -2 then save that pic the save it again at 0 then again to +2 so you end up with 3 pictures at 3 different exposures -2, 0, +2, then you just drag them 3 pics into photomatix.

or you can take the same photograph 3 times with multiple exposures with the bracketing function on your camera but you will also need to use a tripod.

or if you shoot in RAW you can use just the one image like i explained in my last post.


Sorry if im makeing no sense at all im terrible with instructions :PDT_Xtremez_42:

If you need more help when you get it can can take more screenshots and talk you through it if you need.

Max
07-27-2007, 11:42 AM
It gave me a Pseudo HDR image It said every time I loaded one raw Into Photomatix.

I would of kept It If It let load 3 raws in the generate but wouldn't everytime I reinstalled It.

Bracket Exposures don't need the EV manually set In photoshop If their Jpeg I think.

I got no auto bracketing on my D40, so I have to set the exposures manually.:Smiliz_Kingz_PDT_13

Sometimes It watermarked my pics. :mad:

baztop3
07-27-2007, 12:03 PM
It gave me a Pseudo HDR image It said every time I loaded one raw Into Photomatix.

I would of kept It If It let load 3 raws in the generate but wouldn't everytime I reinstalled It.

Bracket Exposures don't need the EV manually set In photoshop If their Jpeg I think.

I got no auto bracketing on my D40, so I have to set the exposures manually.:Smiliz_Kingz_PDT_13

Sometimes It watermarked my pics. :mad:

That's right it converts to pseudo-HDR then you need to click Tone mapping.

And also try saving your 3 RAWS to TIFF or JEPG and then try to load them into photomatix. And your right if you use the bracket function you wont need to load them into photoshop. Have you registered it with a serial key if not what version do you have 2.4.1? because i might have a key for ya wich should get rid of the watermark.

Max
07-27-2007, 12:16 PM
I do the TIFF option alot because of the manual settings I have to do on my camera.

Dunno about serial key, I downloaded the trial version.

Uninstalled It though after It wouldn't let me generate 3 raws or tiffs.

baztop3
07-27-2007, 12:23 PM
If your useing raw then you dont need to use 3 just the one will do photomatix wont let load more than one. If you want to load 3 you will have to use Jpeg's.

Max
07-27-2007, 12:31 PM
I thought the point of HDR though was 3 differently exposed Images Into one though?

baztop3
07-27-2007, 12:37 PM
I thought the point of HDR though was 3 differently exposed Images Into one though?

yes it is but with a RAW file all the information is there in one file thats the advantages of useing it.

snappel
07-27-2007, 12:52 PM
Yes, as baz says, you can use one RAW file. You can put it into Photomatrix, or split it into three files (+2 EV, 0 EV, -2 EV) and then put them into Photomatrix.

You'd never need to use three RAW files. The RAW contains far more data than you can see - just go into Photoshop and adjust the exposure (NOT brightness) level. This is why RAW is so good, as you can easily created exposure errors later.

I don't know how many times I've posted this now, but anyone interested in HDR should at least read this comprehensive HDR guide with lots of example images as a starting point. Then get a copy of Photomatrix - a FULL copy that includes the tone mapping utility. If you're not doing the tone mapping, then you're only halfway there. But anyway, it's all in the guide I linked to above.

Funny how this thread has gone from Lightroom to HDR though...

Max
07-27-2007, 12:52 PM
Just reinstalled full version photomatix and loaded 3 raws from batch processing.

One result In underexposed and the other Is watermarked.

They don't look different to the results I could get In photoshop.

snappel
07-27-2007, 12:53 PM
Are you using the Tone Mapping facility after you've created the HDR?

Max
07-27-2007, 12:55 PM
Yeah.

Max
07-27-2007, 12:58 PM
As for the Lightroom the only answer I've got Is to read adobe forums.

baztop3
07-27-2007, 01:19 PM
It's probably just a case of messing ablout with all the settings in the tone mapping it dose take a bit of time to figure it out and sometimes no matter how hard you try some pictures just never come out looking any good.

Max
07-27-2007, 01:25 PM
Aye sometimes they come out looking monkey balls. Some buildings or things don't suit HDR I reckon.

All I need now Is to sort lightroom as I want the vignetting option for the skies like In this pic.

http://www.vanilladays.com/

Max
07-27-2007, 04:25 PM
I'll try an sort all the lightroom stuff later.

Upgrading to PS Cs3 at the moment and I feel Inspired by Pete's latest silhouette photos to make my own silhouettes of some night shots I took, so I'm making a silhouette photo at the moment.

Gerard
07-27-2007, 05:54 PM
Sorry yes it's photomatix, To use it you need to load multiple exposures wich you can do in a few ways, you can either take a picture you have and change the exposure your self for example open the pic in Photoshop, CS2 or similar then change the exposure to -2 then save that pic the save it again at 0 then again to +2 so you end up with 3 pictures at 3 different exposures -2, 0, +2, then you just drag them 3 pics into photomatix.

or you can take the same photograph 3 times with multiple exposures with the bracketing function on your camera but you will also need to use a tripod.

or if you shoot in RAW you can use just the one image like i explained in my last post.


Sorry if im makeing no sense at all im terrible with instructions :PDT_Xtremez_42:

If you need more help when you get it can can take more screenshots and talk you through it if you need.


Thanks Baz.You made a lot of sense mate,I found the bit about only using 1RAW piccie helpful as I didn't know that.
Below is my 1st Photomatix attempt at HDR photography.
Baz,If you have a License key I'd be Interested mate..I'll pay you of course

Thanks snappel and Baz for all your help.
What do you reckon..be honest..have I overdone or underdone this that or the other ??

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/FLOWERS%20AND%20THINGS/ORANGECROCOSMIAHDR.jpg


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/FLOWERS%20AND%20THINGS/PALMHOUSEHDR.jpg


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/FLOWERS%20AND%20THINGS/BACKPERCYSTHDR.jpg


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/FLOWERS%20AND%20THINGS/MARIGOLDHDR.jpg


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/FLOWERS%20AND%20THINGS/HUSKISSONSTHDR.jpg


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/FLOWERS%20AND%20THINGS/1stHDRPICCIE.jpg

snappel
07-27-2007, 06:39 PM
All I need now Is to sort lightroom as I want the vignetting option for the skies like In this pic.

http://www.vanilladays.com/

Or in CS2 like this...


http://tk41.powweb.com/photos/vignetting.jpg

baztop3
07-27-2007, 06:42 PM
No probs Gerard. A good first attempt with ya HDR's mate they are all have halo's around objects though that can get rid of them by fiddleing aboult with the strength and the light smoothing but the are pritty much like all mine when i just started doing them. Give it a week and youll be rite on it.

PS ive pm'd you a key. No i havnt because the pm thingy aint there anymore.

Gerard
07-27-2007, 07:03 PM
No probs Gerard. A good first attempt with ya HDR's mate they are all have halo's around objects though that can get rid of them by fiddleing aboult with the strength and the light smoothing but the are pritty much like all mine when i just started doing them. Give it a week and youll be rite on it.

PS ive pm'd you a key. No i havnt because the pm thingy aint there anymore.


No probs Baz mate..Yer tried Lad..I appreciate that.:handclap:

baztop3
07-27-2007, 07:08 PM
Here is one ive just done and a screenshot of the settings. And i added vignetting just to tease Max :)

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/2737/dsc0004na3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/5995/tonekw9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Gerard
07-27-2007, 07:23 PM
Here is one ive just done and a screenshot of the settings. And i added vignetting just to tease Max :)

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/2737/dsc0004na3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/5995/tonekw9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



Right Baz..Im gonna av a go with them same settings.
Nice piccie by the way..
I had a blimp on yer website earlier..Brilliant photo's mate :handclap:

baztop3
07-27-2007, 07:25 PM
cheers mate much appreciated.
PS you have mail.

Kev
07-27-2007, 07:55 PM
Well, I'm proud to say I haven't got a clue what you are all on about.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1170/919206174_7add500f44_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/919206174/)

Gerard
07-27-2007, 08:05 PM
Well, I'm proud to say I haven't got a clue what you are all on about.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1170/919206174_7add500f44_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/919206174/)


Nice one Kev :handclap:

Max
07-27-2007, 08:41 PM
Or in CS2 like this...


http://tk41.powweb.com/photos/vignetting.jpg

I get something totally different when I open a raw In Cs2 like below. My sister deleted paint so I couldn't do a print screen In paint.

Max
07-27-2007, 08:51 PM
Right done my screenshot In photoshop of what happens when i open my raws.

I don't get all of what you get.

Max
07-27-2007, 09:06 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/maxmolyneux/sets/72157600338380551/

I wanted vignetting for the Georgian houses pic mostly.

The other ones will be deleted soon since I only want quality on my flickr and they were learning experiences.

Max
07-29-2007, 10:21 AM
I think Lightroom Is not supported on my version of Windows Xp to why It won't work.

baztop3
07-29-2007, 03:39 PM
I think Lightroom Is not supported on my version of Windows Xp to why It won't work.


are you sure you didnt download the Vista version?

Max
07-29-2007, 06:19 PM
are you sure you didnt download the Vista version?

No, I didn't.

I think I need XP service pack 2 but can;t download that because of my copy of windows XP I was told.

Max
07-29-2007, 06:58 PM
Update, my DNG converter needed updating so I have the same as Snappel's when I open a raw.

robbo176
07-29-2007, 07:14 PM
Well, I'm proud to say I haven't got a clue what you are all on about.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1170/919206174_7add500f44_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/919206174/)

I'm glad I wasn't the only one :PDT_Piratz_26:

snappel
07-29-2007, 07:18 PM
Update, my DNG converter needed updating so I have the same as Snappel's when I open a raw.
You should be sorted now then.

Max
07-29-2007, 07:37 PM
I am Indeed.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Max
07-29-2007, 08:17 PM
Now all I have to do Is wonder why Photomatix won;t generate 3 differently exposed raws In the HDR then Generate option. I use Batch processing and as soon as I tone map them they watermark them. :mad:

baztop3
07-29-2007, 08:41 PM
Now all I have to do Is wonder why Photomatix won;t generate 3 differently exposed raws In the HDR then Generate option. I use Batch processing and as soon as I tone map them they watermark them. :mad:


You cant use more than one RAW in photomatix youll have to jpeg them first, Have you registered it? thats the only resin i can think why it's putting a watermark on them if not i can email you a serial if you need.

Max
07-29-2007, 08:52 PM
I don't think I have a serial for It.

Used Vignetting on this.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=942022869&size=o

baztop3
07-29-2007, 08:57 PM
Nice pic i take it you have Lightroom up an runnin, I can email you a serial that should get rid of the watermark

Max
07-29-2007, 09:00 PM
Nah, I sorted out the Raw opening thing.

I just needed to update to Adobe Camera Raw and It turns them to DNG.

I need Xp Service Pack 2 for Lightroom to work.

petecarr
08-02-2007, 01:17 AM
You cant use more than one RAW in photomatix youll have to jpeg them first, Have you registered it? thats the only resin i can think why it's putting a watermark on them if not i can email you a serial if you need.

Better to convert 1 RAW to 3 16 bit TIFF's than JPG's. They retain more data.

Max
09-23-2007, 11:16 AM
I now have Photomatix, Adobe Photoshop Cs2 and Adobe Lightroom!

Such POWA!:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

petecarr
09-23-2007, 11:19 AM
Nah you need CS3. You've currently got as much powaaaaaaaaa!!!! as gay he-man. "I have a rainbow!!!!"

Max
09-23-2007, 11:22 AM
I will get Cs3 soon, just been so long since I've worked on pics that CS2 was the fastest to get.:PDT10

I only needed any Cs Photoshop for the resizing and stuff, Lightroom works stuff Grrrrrreat.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Never call He-man gay.:eek:

He-Man had lots of powa from the castle of Greyskull so your saying I have the powa of grayskull.:PDT_Aliboronz_24: