New Anfield is back on track after £10m grant

A MAJOR breakthrough in Liverpool FC's plans for a new stadium is revealed today.

Government officials have privately agreed to pump around £10m into the regeneration of the area around the club's planned £150m ground at Stanley Park, the ECHO has learned.

It means the Reds' stadium project is still on track after months of uncertainty.

A spokeswoman for the Northwest Development Agency, which holds the purse strings, today said no formal decision had been made.

The news of the cash boost comes a day after the ECHO revealed that property giant Peel Holdings has offered to build Everton FC a new stadium at Switch Island. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16702118%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=new%2danfield%2dis%2dback%2don%2dtrack% 2dafter%2d%2dpound%2d10m%2dgrant-name_page.html)

Will they do more than Football with it and hold massive events? They should do and should of with old anfield!

can we actually afford to build it and at the same time carry on putting money into the team like we have been? the longer it's left the more it costs to build it. thats what worries me. it's probably the only chance I've got of coming off the waiting list for a season ticket and actually gettin one if they build it, but will it come at a price? at the price of success on the pitch? we seem to be struggling to prove we actually do have the money :confused: :neutral:

Its all a bit of a gamble.

I think the transfer budget has already been spent - hence the freebie for Fowler. Think if Benetiz had some cash lying about, he would have been in for Defoe.

Whether that transfer budget is empty due to money being put aside for the ground or not, I don't know?!

But with Uniteds stadium holding near-on 60k, and no doubt plans to increase, Arsenal moving this season, and Chelsea looking at other developments, I guess we need to move in order to compete and generate the money through the turnstyles.

can we actually afford to build it and at the same time carry on putting money into the team like we have been? the longer it's left the more it costs to build it. thats what worries me. it's probably the only chance I've got of coming off the waiting list for a season ticket and actually gettin one if they build it, but will it come at a price? at the price of success on the pitch? we seem to be struggling to prove we actually do have the money :confused: :neutral:


It could have other investors to keep it going and hold other events other than football like Wembley does like having music concerts.

It could have other investors to keep it going and hold other events other than football like Wembley does like having music concerts.

i think thats the only way it would happen. I still don't think stanley park is the ideal site for it for a lot of obvious reasons thou. tradition is all well and good but you've also got to look at practicality too. I wouldn't say stanley park is the most practical site to build a new 55 to 65k football stadium.

as for us buying fowler jock m8, the transfer budget hasn't been spent. we do have money to spend right now, it's the in future i mean. getting fowler on a free was nothin to do with being on a budget. it was just the right move for both the club and fowler at the time. simple as.

I just wish that our north west teams could build a bloody stadium like every other team seems to have done so quickly :rolleyes: without all the faffin' about

I just wish that our north west teams could build a bloody stadium like every other team seems to have done so quickly :rolleyes: without all the faffin' about

definately :thumbsup:

I just wish that our north west teams could build a bloody stadium like every other team seems to have done so quickly :rolleyes: without all the faffin' about


None of them would be as big as Old Trafford though.

LIVERPOOL Football Club is falling behind other leading Premiership clubs because of delays over building its new stadium at Stanley Park, directors were warned last night. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16741896%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=new%2dstadium%2ddelays%2dhitting%2dlive rpool%2dfc%2dfinances-name_page.html)

:rolleyes:

Plans for Liverpool FC's new stadium have been re-approved by city councillors without any alterations to the original scheme.

Plans for the stadium in Stanley Park, next to its current Anfield ground, were first given the go-ahead by Liverpool City Council in 2005.

The club had to resubmit plans for the 60,000-seater ground to make sure they conformed to new planning laws.

The club is looking for investors to help fund the £160m venture.

Shareholders were told at the club's recent AGM that it could be four years before the stadium was completed.

source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/4901164.stm)

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ANOTHER hurdle to Liverpool FC's stadium plans was today being removed by council chiefs.


They have started looking for a developer to restore parts of Stanley Park, alongside the planned 60,000-seater ground.


The news will please European and government officials, who had demanded the council and the club show their commitment to the £160m scheme before handing over millions of pounds.


But they still want the Reds to confirm they have the money to pay for the stadium, or the cash may be lost. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16966135%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=stadium%2dsupport-name_page.html)

EUROPEAN millions are still available for Liverpool FC's new stadium dream despite fears funding could be pulled. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=17001415%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=millions%2dfor%2dnew%2danfield-name_page.html)

Liverpool FC has been given two months to prove it has the funding to build a new football stadium.

Part of the plan for the £190m stadium in Stanley Park involves regenerating the area around its current Anfield Road ground with European Union cash.

The area could get £9m of Objective One Funding - money earmarked by the EU to revive depressed areas.

Officials who distribute the funds said the club had to provide evidence the stadium funding was in place.

Financial statement

A spokesman for the Objective One programme monitoring committee said it had received written assurances from the club and Liverpool City Council about the funding.

But he added that the committee wanted to see detailed financial statements and accounts before authorising the project.

A two month appraisal is to take place with a sub-committee deciding by 28 September if the club has given adequate proof of its financial package for the new ground.

But the committee is also looking at alternative uses for the money in case the club fails to satisfy its requirements.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/start_quote_rb.gifIt is time for the club to put up or shut up http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/end_quote_rb.gifCoun Flo Clucas

Coun Flo Clucas, the city's head of ecnonomic development warned the club "the clock is ticking."

She added: "The club has had 18 months to bring forward its proposals and it is are now competing with other projects which have already been appraised.

"Put simply, it is time for the club to put up or shut up."

The European cash would pay for environmental and infrastructure improvements in the Anfield area and would not go towards the cost of the stadium.

Nobody at the club was available for comment.

Threat to LFC stadium project
Jul 28 2006
By Sam Lister Daily Post Staff

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LIVERPOOL FC'S plans to build a new stadium were dealt a massive blow last night after officials told them they were no longer front-runners for a £9m grant.

The club failed to come up with a "cast-iron" assurance that they had private financial backing, despite being given 18 months to secure a deal.

Committee members in charge of handing out the European cash fear the scheme has now become so risky they stripped the club of preferred bidder status.

It means the grant is no longer ring-fenced for the ambitious Stanley Park plans, and LFC will now have to compete with dozens of other Merseyside regeneration schemes for the money.

More (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=17465178%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=threat%2dto%2dlfc%2dstadium%2dproject-name_page.html)...

LIVERPOOL Football Club should not be allowed to build its new £180m stadium on Stanley Park unless the rest of the Anfield Regeneration programme goes ahead, councillors were told yesterday. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=17477770%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=no%2dregeneration%2d%2dthen%2dno%2dstad ium%2d-name_page.html)

LIVERPOOL Football Club should not be allowed to build its new £180m stadium on Stanley Park unless the rest of the Anfield Regeneration programme goes ahead, councillors were told yesterday.

It should be allowed to be built on the park full stop. Both club's should be forced out to suitable locations in non-residential areas.

Both club's are an embrassment to the city. For 10 years EFC have been talking about a move - they haven't even got a site yet. For the past 5 years LFC have been on about one. They even have a site and a design - no stadium. Arsenal come in the last minute and build a beauty.

The council should be firm and say no deal in Anfield or Walton, get out and offer them sites - again. They offered a part of Garston Docks and Speke to both club's.

The club's propogate the idea of an indecisive argumentative city that does nothing, even when they throw public money at them.

CITY politicians are set to lease a slice of historic Stanley Park, paving the way for work to start on a new stadium for Liverpool FC early in 2007. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=17675093%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=city%2dto%2dsign%2dlfc%2dstadium%2dleas e-name_page.html)

Its a crying shame that the prefered site for the new stadia, is a Public park.. :(

Lets hope that with the full restoration of the rest of the park that is planned alongside the ground, the Anfield area will benefit as a whole through community facilities etc...

By all means attempt to regenerate the area.. but don't use public open space to achieve it .. :(

By all means attempt to regenerate the area.. but don't use public open space to achieve it .. :(

Of course, hopefully once the park has been fully restored it will be more accessable and attractive to the folk its meant for not the antisocial minority.

I'm all for the intent of doing good for the Anfield community.. but there were brownfield sites available tobuild the ground such as down Prescot rd and the Docks such as Kings dock that were ignored in favour of a public open space..

I'm all for the intent of doing good for the Anfield community.. but there were brownfield sites available tobuild the ground such as down Prescot rd and the Docks such as Kings dock that were ignored in favour of a public open space..

Should build it at Vauxhall. Clear all those Chavs out and do something good there. :)

Yeah!... see everyone noddin' and agreeing with you ;)


Bloody Churchills eh?

Liverpool have received the go-ahead from the city council to build a new 60,000 all-seater stadium.

Council leaders approved a 999-year lease on Friday for a piece of land in the city's Stanley Park, just 300 yards away from their Anfield home.

"It's all systems go. All we need now is the club to confirm the funding," said council leader Warren Bradley.

Liverpool have until the end of September to convince the council it can come up with £180m for the project.

If financing is approved, building work could begin early next year with the first match pencilled in for August 2009.

Bradley added: "If Liverpool have the funding in place, they can start on the site from January."

The overall cost of the first phase of the project will be £215m.

It includes the new stadium which incorporates a centre with facilities for education, sport and community activities, along with a fully restored Stanley Park. source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/5327426.stm).....

I remember seeing a post regarding the ashes spread at Anfield, and what would be happening to them. Tho. I can't find it now. So I'll post this here...Just to add a few word to the ashes question. I would think that when the management allowed this practice, they entered into a tacit agreement with the families of the people whose ashes were placed on the field, that they undertake to be gardians of the remains. This would indeed be a legal undertaking, whether agreed to or not. So the management would be legaly bound to re-deposit the remains to a safe place, even if identities could not be confirmed.
In this case I feel that if enough pressure was brought to bear, (as in a class action ) That maybe the top 12 ins. of the present field would be transfered to the new field and mixed in there. Just a thought.

Good thinking Bobbymac.

Ta luv. As of this evening I believe the Echo will be looking into this matter.

Benitez: Stadium plan vital to LFC
Sep 9 2006
By Sam Lister Daily Post Staff

LIVERPOOL FC manager Rafael Benitez yesterday told how plans for a new stadium were vital for the club as senior councillors issued a warning that vital funding could be lost in just seven days.

The city council's executive board yesterday agreed to rent out one-third of Stanley Park so the club can build a 60,000-seater ground.

But the club must prove it has the £180m it needs to build the stadium within a week, or lose vital European cash without which the scheme would almost certainly collapse.

Yesterday, Benitez said: "It is very important that we have this new stadium to have more room for our fans. It will help us provide very important extra funds for our future, and it will help us to compete with clubs like Manchester United, Chelsea and Arsenal.

"We have fantastic support at Liverpool and the Kop is a very special place, but our capacity is just 45,000. It would be even better for everyone if we had 60,000 fans in the ground."

More (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=17722149%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=benitez%2d%2dstadium%2dplan%2dvital%2dt o%2dlfc-name_page.html)...

Some people view a new home for the club as the star attraction in what will be a £200m regeneration strategy for north Liverpool.

They argue that never again in this lifetime will such an opportunity present itself to transform an area dominated by an ageing football ground, surrounded by hundreds of terraced homes.

The new ground, costing £180m, will spearhead a new-look Anfield, with a futuristic Plaza on the site of the existing ground, coupled with a hotel, home improvements and a safer environment.

Critics argue that one of Britain's great Victorian Parks will be ruined for ever by the arrival of a huge modern stadium and all the ancillaries that go with it - car parks, transport problems, congestion.

They also argue that politicians have vowed never to sell off parkland areas, the so-called 'Crown Jewels'.

The counter argument is that the land earmarked for the stadium is already a concrete area used for match day parking.

The city council's executive board has agreed to the project, though it now faces scrutiny at a council Select Committee later this week.

The critical issue is whether the New Anfield Vision can be delivered without the inclusion of Liverpool FC.

The football ground is, both historically and currently, a critical part of the community.

The next few weeks will determine whether the Anfield dream will be a reality.

larryneild@dailypost.co.uk

Once-in-a-lifetime chance for community

YES SAYS Cllr Flo Clucas, executive member for economic development and a member of the Objective 1 committee

PART of Stanley Park has been leased to Liverpool FC so that the regeneration plans for Anfield and Breckfield can go ahead.

Unless there is a new stadium the public funding from Objective 1 and NWDA would be lost to this part of North Liverpool which, as one of the most deprived areas in the country, desperately needs this injection of funding.

If the stadium does not go ahead, the potential for all that employment, new business and injection of confidence in Anfield and Breckfield is likely to go forever.

And it is important to to point out that there will be no net loss of green space at all. Much of what is going to be built on is currently a tarmaced car park.

We consulted 19,000 people on this scheme and a huge majority wanted the club to stay here. It was an enormous consultation.

The scheme enables us to do what many of the people in the local area want us to do.

We talk to the people most directly affected by these changes and it is worth noting that of those that made formal objections, some were from Middlesex, Formby and Crosby. Of course, these people have a right to object but I am convinced that the overwhelming majority of local people see this scheme as not just providing a new home for Liverpool FC but as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity of regenerating their community.

The majority of people who live in the area recognise how vital it is to ensuring young people have a future.

It will transform Anfield and Breckfield beyond recognition by creating extensive new jobs.

There will be a hotel complex, the park will have its third lake restored, the Gladstone Conservatory will be restored.

It will create jobs in heritage, culture and business and make a real difference to people's lives.

If you look at the area there are a number of things that strike you. There is significant expansion but there is an inability of local people to access quality employment.

There is the new North Liverpool Academy, but we need to be able to give those young people very real opportunities that will allow them to stay in the local area.

This is not a decision that we would take lightly. But we must remember that the park is not wholly going out of council control.

The lease is to the joint venture company that will be 50% city council and 50% LFC.

For five years this scheme has been developed with the Anfield Breckfield Partnership Forum, which has focused on gaining the best regeneration plan for the area.

Without the stadium there will be no public sector cash to carry out those plans, which will provide a much-need boost for the area.

The right plan, but in the wrong place

NO SAYS Steve Radford, Leader of Liberal Group, Liverpool Council

EVERYONE in the Save Stanley Park campaign recognises the benefit of a new world-class international stadium for Liverpool Football Club.

We want the proposal to be commercially viable, but it must be in the right location with excellent motorway and rail connections. To be commercially viable, thousands more football fans will need to be able to reach the new stadium without becoming trapped in heavy congestion.

The current plans will add 15,000 extra cars to the most congested and densely populated part of Liverpool. Congested traffic will add to dangerous levels of air pollution.

We believe the city council has failed miserably to develop alternative, and preferable, sites at Speke, or along the East Lancs corridor.

The promised park and ride/park and walk" scheme is a delusion - already one of the sites, (Craven Park) has become a housing estate.

The proponents claim the people of Anfield have voted for this scheme.

The council voted to hold a referendum in October 2000. Having done so, senior officers and councillors, terrified at the prospect, set about a phoney consultation whereby residents' opinions were claimed to have been reported, only after the reading of a wish list of promises, set to bias the outcome.

Residents never saw the answers submitted to the council on their behalf, they were not allowed to view the form or sign it proving it to be a correct record.

The council say they consulted 19,000 homes: not true. They only did 4,102 in Kirkdale, Walton, Breckfield, Tuebrook, Kensington, and Anfield. All the other areas have their own local park, and as such will not be affected by building on Stanley Park.

We challenge the council to put the issue to a local referendum.

During the public inquiry against the demolitions the council told the inspector housing renewal was NOT linked to LFC building on Stanley Park, yet every week Lib Dem press releases claim the regeneration of Anfield IS dependent on LFC's proposals.

The present stadium is 27 metres high, the new stadium will be 78.9 metres high, an increase of 225%.

A yes vote will give the council and large financial interests the green light to encroach on local parks.

Walton Hall, Croxteth, Newsham, Sefton, Calderstones and Princes Park, and Otterspool will be under threat.

We are asking you to vote NO, to save all our parks and ensure a new international stadium is built somewhere else with excellent transport links.

A yes vote will give the council and large financial interests the green light to encroach on local parks.

Walton Hall, Croxteth, Newsham, Sefton, Calderstones and Princes Park, and Otterspool will be under threat.

We are asking you to vote NO, to save all our parks and ensure a new international stadium is built somewhere else with excellent transport links.

Yes, No it should be. This is the thin end of the wedge. Similar with West Waterloo Dock. Let one historic dock be filled in and planning proposals by the week will come in for the rest of them. Same with parks.

The coucil offered EFC a site in Speke, which was originally offered to LFC. There are countless suitable sites in Liverpool for a large football stadium - Stanley Park is not one of them.

Interesting that there is gonna be a hotel. imagine going on holiday to Anfield!

Interesting that there is gonna be a hotel. imagine going on holiday to Anfield!

It will be either the first 25 day a year hotel or the fastest closure in history of any hotel.

Let's face it. If all the new developments promised by LCC and LFC actually come to fruition, then this is a scheme no right-thinking person can oppose. However, LFC do not posses the best recorded of taking an interest in the quality of the community surrounding thier ground. LFC have over a number of years continually purchased houses around the area with big ideas of ground expansion, and then proceeded to allow them to remain derelict for year upon year, bringing down other house prices in the area, and encouraging any decent people to get the hell out as quickly as possible. As environment shapes the people it produces, Anfield has now descended to scum central. Are LFC truly interested in their surrounding community? Or is it simply hyperbole in order to pacify local residents, secure additional funding for the stadium, and get taxpayers to foot the bill for transport links and corporate hospitality facilities around the ground? I suspect the latter.

Could be, I would hope that LFC would have to deliver on their promises though with local community regeneration etc.... Once this happens then it could be a catylist for further regeneration, fingers crossed.

Welcome and thanks for your support :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Welcome to the forum ThinkingScouser. :)

As an Anfield resident I can say that you are quite correct in your views - and yes, all the decent people are fleeing away from the deterioration of this area.

LIVERPOOL FC today denied it is facing a 48-hour deadline to decide the future of the club's stadium plans. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=17787559%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=rick%2dparry%2d%2dthe%2dtruth%2don%2dan field-name_page.html)

Liverpool close in on new stadium

The club aims to start building the stadium later this year
Liverpool's plans to build a new 60,000-capacity all-seater stadium have moved a step closer after the club secured crucial European funding.
The European Union Objective One grant of £9m will be spent on regenerating the area around the Stanley Park site.

Liverpool were given the money after guaranteeing that the £180m funding for the entire project is in place.

They can now claim £5m from Liverpool City Council and £8.9m from the Northwest Regional Development Agency.

The city council approved a 999-year lease on the stadium site - which is 300 yards away from Anfield - on 8 September.

Planning permission for the scheme came with the proviso that investment would be made in the surrounding area, including the park.

The European money will not be spent on the new stadium but on schemes such as the creation of a shop-lined plaza on the site of their current Anfield home.

Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry said: "It's another significant step forward in our plans for the building of a new stadium, which we have always seen as a catalyst for the regeneration of the whole area."

Councillor Flo Clucas, chairman of the Objective One project selection sub-committee, added: "This is a major step forward for the people of Anfield.

"It will underpin substantial investment by other partners, whose commitment will help transform the neighbourhood."

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Like the cooobraaa, they should strike and build now!

Rush for a new Anfield


LIVERPOOL could be in the hands of Dubai International Capital (DIC) by early February at the latest.

A confidential update on the £450m takeover of the Reds outlines a rigid programme to conclude the deal and immediately start building a Liverpool FC for the 21st century.

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=rush-for-a-new-anfield%26method=full%26objectid=18348247%26siteid =50061-name_page.html

It looks like a new ground is a nailed on certanty now.:)

Rush for a new Anfield


LIVERPOOL could be in the hands of Dubai International Capital (DIC) by early February at the latest.

A confidential update on the £450m takeover of the Reds outlines a rigid programme to conclude the deal and immediately start building a Liverpool FC for the 21st century.

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=rush-for-a-new-anfield%26method=full%26objectid=18348247%26siteid =50061-name_page.html

It looks like a new ground is a nailed on certanty now.:)


I would think so too. Of that £450 million, only about £150 million is for control of the club, the rest is to clear debts and build the stadium.

Takeover of Liverpool 'imminent'

Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry says he expects the club's takeover by Dubai International Capital to be completed "relatively quickly".
"A huge amount of work has been going on, we'll have something to say soon," he told BBC Five Live's Sportsweek.

"Yes, the deal is looking positive and yes, I'm confident it will go through. This will take us to the next level.

"But it's not a quick fix, a rich man's plaything. It's a long-term model for success, based around the new stadium."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6260399.stm

Liverpool One group favourite for stadium

Liverpool Daily Post

THE construction firm which is already building Grosvenor's Liverpool One project is favourite to win the contract to build Liverpool FC's new Stanley Park stadium.

Laing O'Rourke said it was in talks with the Premiership club - on the day the club agreed a sale to two American sports moguls in a £450m deal.

A source at the firm last night said: "We are in discussions with the club about the build. We are in talks, but no contract has been signed." Multi-millionaires George Gillett and Tom Hicks yesterday became the new owners of the club.

Work on the new ground could commence within weeks.

Rick Parry, chief executive of Liverpool, said the pair "made clear their intention to move as quickly as practicable on the financing and construction of our proposed new stadium at Stanley Park".

He added: "This has been an important time for the club. We now have the right partners for the future. I am absolutely certain we have now ended up in the right place, with owners who will help the club succeed and prosper."


Laing O'Rourke also built the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff, which was opened in October 1999. It took two years to build and has a retractable roof.


Laing O'Rourke Building North is the division that would undertake the building of the Stanley Park stadium, if its bid is successful. The division is currently building Grosvenor's £920m shopping complex in Paradise Street, known as Liverpool One, as well as the new stand at Aintree Racecourse.


Other Laing O'Rourke divisions have built the new Ascot Racecourse, the Snow Centre in Dubai and the Cardiff International Sports Centre.


Based in Dartford, Kent, Laing O'Rourke is the largest privately owned construction firm in the UK. The company has offices in Germany, India, Australia and United Arab Emirates, with over 23,000 employees worldwide. Led by chairman and chief executive, Ray O'Rourke, the business has grown rapidly since the merger of Laing and R.O'Rourke & Son Ltd in 2001.


The company's Construction North Liverpool Office is situated at Columbus Quay, Riverside Drive

Hicks and Gillett want to review the stradium design, but the council has warned any major changes (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_headline=lfc-shareholders-wooed-with-priority-ticket-rights%26method=full%26objectid=18591493%26siteid= 50061-name_page.html)will have to be agreed with planners.

New stadium plans go on display


Plans for Liverpool Football Club's new stadium and the regeneration of Stanley Park are to go on show.
Residents are being asked for their views on the proposals for the park, which houses the Isla Gladstone Conservatory.

Liverpool FC's new owners George Gillett and Tom Hicks agreed to make funds available to build the new stadium as part of the purchasing deal.

The exhibition is at the Vernon Sangster Sports Centre.

The Stanley Park work is part of wider plans for New Anfield and Breckfield.

The £215m project is expected to bring new community facilities, jobs, homes and business to the area.

The exhibition will be open on 26 and 27 February.

Councillor Berni Turner said: "This will be a chance for residents and others to see what the Stanley Park of the 21st Century will look like.

"It involves major works in restoring the park to a standard which will make it one of the leading recreational spaces in the region."

The wider regeneration project will be one of the largest urban parks restoration schemes in the country.

It involves the repair and restoration of the park's structures including bridges, walls, pavilions and the park lodge.

The new 60,000-seater stadium includes a Community Partnership Centre, a replacement for the Vernon Sangster Sports Centre.

It is due to open at the start of the 2009/10 Premiership season.

Here's a good website for you reds,it has images to click on and information on the new stadium.Under stadium info it says the new ground can be extended in the future which is great news.

http://www.newanfield.co.uk/designs.html

Thats a great site and good to see at least things are happening with the ground tests today and Vernon Sangster to be demolished 16th March. Somehow I cant see them ever getting planning permission to expand unless there's some major transport improvements.

What's this I'm hearing that the new American owners want to cancel the planned stadium in favour of lookin' at an 80,000 seater?

What's this I'm hearing that the new American owners want to cancel the planned stadium in favour of lookin' at an 80,000 seater?
Just found this on the Radio City website:

http://www.radiocity.co.uk/Article.asp?PT=News+%26+Sport&id=368511

80,000 sound good to me

80,000 sound good to me
Would the transport infrastructure cope with the extra capacity?

Just flatten a bit more of stanley park, that should do the trick, i'm kidding of course - good point, where would the extra parking go?

Just flatten a bit more of stanley park, that should do the trick, i'm kidding of course - good point, where would the extra parking go?

Underground?

The BBC report is playing it down, saying a review is taking place including ways of increasing capacity is taking place but completion in 2009 is still the target. I really cant see how it can go to 80,000 without a total redesign and fresh new planning application and even then, would be amazed if the council agree to that capacity.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6450893.stm

Liverpool get groundshare request

Liverpool's new owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett have been asked by city council leaders to look again at sharing their new stadium with Everton.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40841000/jpg/_40841669_livstadium_inside203.jpg
Liverpool hope to increase capacity
at their planned new stadium

The American tycoons want to make Liverpool's proposed new stadium bigger than the planned 60,000-capacity.

Liverpool have always ruled out sharing with Everton but council leader Warren Bradley wants them to reconsider.

He told the Liverpool Echo: "If they can consider an increase in size, why can't they consider a shared stadium?"

Liverpool have yet to confirm the decision to suspend preparatory work on the £215m project in Stanley Park, but have revealed a review will be undertaken.

And Bradley, a Blues season-ticket holder, feels Hicks and Gillette could be persuaded to allow Everton to share the new ground.

He added: "They have got their guys (Dallas firm HKS) looking at designs, infrastructure and everything.

"Are you telling me a commercial business in America doesn't sweat the asset? They sweat that asset until they can't get any more out of it.

Everton are considering moving to a new site outside Liverpool in Kirkby but Bradley also thinks redeveloping their current home Goodison Park should not be ruled out.

"I think in a few years' time they'll be playing in a new stadium and I think it will be in Liverpool," Bradley explained.

"I would be happy with a joint stadium, I've got to be honest, but my gut feeling is probably not.

"I don't see any reason why Goodison Park can't be redeveloped. You could quite easily fit an additional footprint and some commercial activity - a hotel, for example - into a new development."

Source: BBC SPORT (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6503097.stm)

Liverpool get groundshare request

Liverpool's new owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett have been asked by city council leaders to look again at sharing their new stadium with Everton.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40841000/jpg/_40841669_livstadium_inside203.jpg
Liverpool hope to increase capacity
at their planned new stadium

The American tycoons want to make Liverpool's proposed new stadium bigger than the planned 60,000-capacity.

Liverpool have always ruled out sharing with Everton but council leader Warren Bradley wants them to reconsider.

He told the Liverpool Echo: "If they can consider an increase in size, why can't they consider a shared stadium?"

Liverpool have yet to confirm the decision to suspend preparatory work on the £215m project in Stanley Park, but have revealed a review will be undertaken.

And Bradley, a Blues season-ticket holder, feels Hicks and Gillette could be persuaded to allow Everton to share the new ground.

He added: "They have got their guys (Dallas firm HKS) looking at designs, infrastructure and everything.

"Are you telling me a commercial business in America doesn't sweat the asset? They sweat that asset until they can't get any more out of it.

Everton are considering moving to a new site outside Liverpool in Kirkby but Bradley also thinks redeveloping their current home Goodison Park should not be ruled out.

"I think in a few years' time they'll be playing in a new stadium and I think it will be in Liverpool," Bradley explained.

"I would be happy with a joint stadium, I've got to be honest, but my gut feeling is probably not.

"I don't see any reason why Goodison Park can't be redeveloped. You could quite easily fit an additional footprint and some commercial activity - a hotel, for example - into a new development."

Source: BBC SPORT (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6503097.stm)


Just how many times do the Blues need to be told to get the message -LIVERPOOL ARENT INTERESTED IN A GROUND SHARE.

Maybe they are now, who knows? Seems a coincidence Liverpool's has been deleyed, then they get another share request.

In my opinion a ground share will not work. End of.

:disgust:

Yet another delay! We have gone from the stadium not happening, to it actually being built, to it being stopped again. The people that are losing out yet again are local residents. This delay in building the stadium has also delayed any regeneration that can take place in the surrounding area.
Warren Bradley confuses me. When the takeover was announced he said that the council where pleased and where eager to get started on regeneration works in Anfield. Then yesterday he throws in this proposal which will innevitably delay regeneration and the stadium further.
I personally think that the fans have made there stance on this issue very clear, we don't want a ground share. I think that Everton fans are starting to warm to the idea of moving to kirkby as it is still the Liverpool City Region and is seen as Liverpool by many peolple. I just hope that the new owners throw out this idea and press ahead with the new stadium.
:034:

If Everton move out of Liverpool, then I can just imagine the taunts from Liverpool fans that Everton have deserted the city. Kirkby and anywhere else that doesn't pay Council Tax to Liverpool City Council, are clearly not in Liverpool. The funniest place I could think for them to move to would be 'Anfield' after Liverpool move out.

The funniest place I could think for them to move to would be 'Anfield' after Liverpool move out.


No chance!!!

Just how many times do the Blues need to be told to get the message -LIVERPOOL ARENT INTERESTED IN A GROUND SHARE.


It was a councillor speaking not the Everton fans, dont care if he is an Evertonian. he dont speak for us.


Just how many times do the Reds need to be told to get the message- WE DONT WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU LOT.

Exactly Tony. I thought the message you replied to was a bit conceited. Us Blues don't need to be told anything. At the end of the day it's up to Hicks and Gillette, they'll do what any developer does, think of their own pockets.

For me, Kirkby, which is approximately 2 miles from Goodison is nearer than many other places in 'Liverpool' that could be touted. It's full of ex Scottie roaders, try telling them they're not in Liverpool just because admin boundary changes occurred in 1974 and they pay their taxes to Knowsley now.

There is a feature in today's Echo about it. Both sides have played down the suggestion and Liverpool seem pretty sure they don't want it.

I'm glad to hear it,we have two big teams that deserve two great stadiums.

Think Bradley is out of order myself. He's clearly abusing his position to try and influence the Americans. He knew what impact the piece in the Echo would have and is desperatly trying to keep the option open.

Rick Parry has told him on more than one occasion that we will never share with Everton "over our dead bodies" in fact.

Sorry Ged, Kirkby is at least 4 miles from Goodison. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I think the Blues should jump at the chance of their own stadium with better facilities. The traditions of the game have long gone anyway.

Think Bradley is out of order myself. He's clearly abusing his position to try and influence the Americans. He knew what impact the piece in the Echo would have and is desperatly trying to keep the option open.

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I agree and im a Blue.

I think he should pack it in and start shouting for the council to get behind Everton`s new ground the way they supported Liverpool`s. lets do up Goodison and stay put.

To be fair, they did give you a lot of support with the Kings Dock stadium. Not sure what went wrong there.

There's only so much they can do for you without any real funding or a business plan for a stadium in the city. Tesco have obviously targeted that specific site in Kirkby, and without any real investment to build on a site offered by Bradley, that's about your only option.

Yes, measured it in my A-Z, it's 3 miles up Wally Hall Avenue to Gillmoss ind Est and a further half a mile to the M57 Kirkby. As the crow flies though to the new site 3.8 miles. Imagine for arguments sake they bought Aigburth cricket ground they'd be moving over twice as far but that would be alright because it'd be in ''liverpool'' wouldn't it.

I think the road and rail links to Kirkby would be great, far better than what both sets of fans have to put up with currently. I see cars parked as far away as Lambeth Road and Fountains Road for Liverpool games and in Bootle and by the old Mons at Everton games.

I wonder if Bradley is making a veiled threat that if Liverpool want council planners to consider an increase in capacity then they'll have to be willing to share. I'm sure the people living in the area will be made up with that - 80,000 every week instead of 60,000 every fortnight.

Don't think he's any position to make veiled threats, or he could end up having no football clubs in the city at all. I doubt the Americans will be as easy going as Davy Moores and Rick Parry.

It angers me to be honest. If this was any other city in the world the stadium would have been built now, especially for one of its prized assets. The Red tape we've had to go to to get to this stage has been unreal, and it's still going on.

Gillett wants 'expandable' new stadium
Apr 1 2007

Liverpool co-owner George Gillett wants room to expand when the Reds go ahead with their plans to build a new stadium.

Former chairman David Moores and the board had gained planning permission to build a new stadium in nearby Stanley Park, but Gillett and fellow co-owner Tom Hicks are looking at ways the stadium can be improved within the accepted proposal - most crucially that there is an option to increase capacity should they want to in the future.

Gillett said: "To be competitive we must be patient because any decision we make today will have to last for 50 or more years. And so with this in mind we want to be very cautious. What I am asking for is that everyone shows patience and gives us a little time. We have to be very mindful and respectful of the planning process."

He added: "There is a plan in place for which approval has already been granted and we have to operate to the extent we can within that process and approval. Decisions about modifications will be taken very carefully. What we want to do is build a stadium that will comply with the seating capacity approval but be expandable. As the fans demand more seats we want to be able to give them to them."

The original proposal was for a 60,000-seater stadium, but Gillett clearly has in mind a desire to eventually have a ground rivalling Old Trafford in size.

Story continues (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0200sport/roundup/tm_headline=gillett-wants--expandable--new-stadium&method=full&objectid=18842965&siteid=50061-name_page.html#story_continue)...

It makes sense to ensure that whatever they build doesnt have a finite capacity considering it'll still only be 75% the size of Old Trafford.

I'll believe it when I see it, but work is now set to start in May with actual construction starting in July, although the anticipated completion is now 2010.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6517517.stm

Final whistle on shared stadium
Apr 2 2007
by Nick Coligan, Liverpool Echo

A SHARED stadium for the city’s two football clubs was today killed off for good.

Council leader Warren Bradley resurrected the idea last week when he told the ECHO he would support it.

But in announcing that work would start on the new Anfield in May, Liverpool FC said there was no chance of Everton becoming involved.

A joint statement by the Reds and the city council said that despite “full and frank talks” about stadium sharing, it had “too many unknowns” and would cause “significant delays”, putting the entire redevelopment of Stanley Park and the Anfield area at risk.

Today’s announcement made it clear that Liverpool are fully committed to their own £215m project, despite the ongoing review of the proposal by their new American owners. It says:

Story continues (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=final-whistle-on-shared-stadium%26method=full%26objectid=18847093%26siteid =50061-name_page.html#story_continue)...

There's a couple of grainy pictures of the New Anfield on SSC,it looks awesome.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=240309

Trying to get hold of some better pics, but won't post them if i do. A few people have been warned about legal action. Think the new application goes in next week.

A few people i know said they had a likeness to something Frank Gehry would design.

Since i've only seen those two and no others i have no idea.

Looks fantastic, really hope that it gets built.

No other stadium in the world looks like that.

KOP THAT UNITED
EXCLUSIVE New owners are planning Britain's biggest stadium

LIVERPOOL are set to unveil plans that will make their new stadium the biggest in British club football.

American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett will submit a revised design to the local council later this month for a 60,000- capacity ground which could eventually hold 80,000.

That expansion will eventually make the stadium bigger than Old Trafford.

AdvertisementLiverpool co-owner Tom Hicks said: "The city council's planners will receive the final plans on July 25.
"The initial capacity will be the 60,000 previously approved, but the design will accommodate an eventual capacity in the high seventies."

Manchester United can fit 76,000 fans into Old Trafford but further expansion would be difficult. So the news that Liverpool are planning a £250m home which could dwarf that of their biggest rivals will delight Anfield fans.

Good news :PDT11

Liverpool have over 60,000 people on the season ticket waiting list so building a stadium that couldn't be made any bigger didn't make sense.

THE ECHO can today reveal the detailed timetable to deliver Liverpool FC’s
new stadium.

Anfield officials have delivered precise plans to the city council which
would lead to work starting in Stanley Park by the end of the year. Despite
calling back the bulldozers who were due to start work in May, the club is
confident the 60,000-capacity stadium will still be ready for the start of
the 2010 season. The £280m project’s new timescale was revealed today as
city officials waited for the club to unveil its redrawn proposals for New
Anfield.

Reds’ owners George Gillett and Tom Hicks decided to go back to the drawing
board after buying the club to see if stadium capacity could be increased
beyond 60,000. As revealed in Monday’s ECHO, the American owners intend to
retain the original capacity, but redesign it significantly so it can be
expanded later. Now Liverpool council is being given a firm timescale which
the club hopes to stick to. It would mean:

A planning application being lodged on July 25.

The council granting planning permission by the end of October.

Government officials agreeing not to intervene by the end of November.

Work starting at the end of the year.

Councillors will also be asked to agree a 999-year lease for the site to new
company Stadco, which is being set up by Liverpool to develop the ground.
The club would have to pay rent of £300,000 a year. Plans to refurbish the
rest of Stanley Park have not changed, although a proposal to convert the
Isla Gladstone conservatory into a facility similar to Sefton Park’s palm
house has now emerged.

Cllr Berni Turner, executive member for the environment, said: “We are
thinking about something like a cafe bar, which would be available for
weddings, funerals and bar mitzvahs.”

Rent money received from Liverpool, along with £350,000 a year from the
council’s own budget, will be used to maintain the park and conservatory for
years to come. The plans will be discussed by councillors at a meeting next
week.

The timetable

JULY 25 , 2007 – this is the date that Liverpool co-owner Tom Hicks says the
revised plans will be submitted to Liverpool council, a month later than
originally planned.

OCTOBER 2007 – the council will then face a race against time to re-examine
the proposals and decide whether to grant planning perm-ission. To meet this
deadline, the club will have to make sure the scheme is not dramat-ically
different to its predecessor in terms of capacity and impact on the
surrounding area. The original scheme was approved in summer 2004.

NOVEMBER 2007 – possibly the most crucial date. The government office for
the north west will have to decide whether Liverpool’s plans should be
“called in” for further investigation, sparking a public inquiry. This would
delay the scheme by several months.

I posted pictures of the stadium weeks ago in the appropriate thread.

I posted pictures of the stadium weeks ago in the appropriate thread.

Hi Paul

Have I moved Mouse's post to the right thread? If not do you want to direct us to the thread where you posted the pics (I assume you might mean the "grainy" photographs you referenced up above)... in which case we can delete our last two posts, yours and mine. Thanks.

Chris

Yes that grainy picture was removed off a load of forums at the request of Liverpool F.C,it's supposed to be genuine but nobody can say for sure.It's in the Liverpool's new stadium thread somewhere.

First pics of the new stadium will be shown on Wednesday at 11 AM.

First pics of the new stadium will be shown on Wednesday at 11 AM.

It sounds like the miserable b#ggers on Liverpool city council are making Liverpool stick to the 60,000 that was aproved earlier.:disgust:

60.000 to start off with, but unlike the other design of the new stadium this one can be made much bigger over time.

It sounds like the miserable b#ggers on Liverpool city council are making Liverpool stick to the 60,000 that was aproved earlier.:disgust:

This new planning application was only ever going to be for 60,000, with the idea they'd apply again in furture for extensions. The council have hinted extra capacity would only be granted if infratructure improvements take place, such as opening a station on the freight line that runs cross Utting Avenue near Cherry Lane.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2007/07/25/revealed-the-first-pictures-of-the-new-anfield-100252-19516474/

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/liverpoolpost/jul2007/0/5/FCC9F606-D42C-D9AD-8E19C04C01A02E49.jpg
Picture of Liverpool FC's new stadium plans

THIS is the £300m football stadium Liverpool Football Club expect to playing in from August 2010.

The football club has submitted new plans for a stadium they hope to build on Stanley Park over the next three years.

Made largely of glass and steel, it will be able to seat 76,000 - 18,000 of who will be in an 18,000-seater Kop - (if planning councillors approve)

The new single-tier Anfield Kop, complete with specially designed roof, will be steeply raked and its seats tightly packed, retaining the world famous Anfield atmosphere.

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/liverpoolpost/jul2007/7/4/FCCA8D1B-D7DD-6222-42F898E20A26E790.jpg

To Liverpool will dig an eight metre hollow into the park near Arkles Lane and Priory Road, so the height of the stadium does not cause controversy or breach current planning laws.

That means the pitch and many of the seats on its front rows will be below ground level.

There will also be a car park and below the stadium there will be house presidential style secure bunker suites among a range of top-class corporate facilities, with glass fronts to meeting rooms and suites which will look out over Stanley Park.

Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry said: “It was always the aim of the club, with the backing of Tom Hicks and George Gillett, to be world class on and off the pitch.

“When they took over, the first thing they wanted to do was review the stadium in terms of design and capacity.

“This is the immensely impressive result of their deliberations.”

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/liverpoolpost/jul2007/0/9/FCCAEF84-EDF4-D42A-3E6D2BC711A332C7.jpg

The revised plan has been produced by leading world architects Dallas-based HKS, following the American takeover by Tom Hicks and George Gillett.

The club also intends establishing a joint venture company with Liverpool council to manage Stanley Park, improving its historic facilities, including a major restoration of Gladstone Pavilion.

Liverpool will create an Anfield Plaza on the site of the current ground, and will soon consider what to do with artefacts including the Hillsborough Memorial, the Bill Shankly Statue and the Shankly and Paisley Gates.

It is also expected that Liverpool will look into re-opening the Bootle branch line to provide rail access to the stadium, a fact revealed by the Daily Post last week.

Parry said: “We make no secret of the fact that we want a greater capacity and will consider putting in a second planning application when appropriate.

“However, we fully recognise for this to happen that all the associated transport requirements need to be in place.

“To increase the capacity above 60,000 we need a further step change in our approach which is why we, together with Liverpool city council and Merseytravel, are investigating the possibility of reopening the Bootle branch railway line for passenger use.

“That would be a fantastic solution, not just for the club, but for all the people of north Liverpool.”

The Reds’ new ground will also incorporate dedicated facilities for the Anfield Sport and Community Centre and Liverpool Hope University, and external facilities will include tennis courts and new multi-use games area.

The stadium will have a stone- work base on the north, west and east sides with mainly glass facades above. The south side will be clad in metal and overlook the Plaza.

One striking feature will see the south east and south west corners of the stadium visually open, providing views from the park deep into its heart.

IC Liverpool

Another fantastic piece of architecture for the city.:handclap:

It looks good inside. Externally it looks like a George Foreman grill.

Would be good If bands played their too, Instead of going to places like Machester or London to see them.

That's what the new arena's for.

Another fantastic piece of architecture for the city.:handclap:

I couldn't agree more.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Thank god we didn't just opt for one of those boring bowls, the design is truly unique and should ensure that the atmosphere and noise is even better at the new Anfield.:handclap:

It looks good inside. Externally it looks like a George Foreman grill.

Maybe it was designed by George and his sons George,George,George,George and George. Their grills are fantastic and this should be taken as a compliment by the designers.:handclap:
I am not a football fan, really couldn't care less about it, but this looks like it will be an asset not just to the club and fans but to the whole city.
Properly organised and it seems like the new owners are using their experience in American sports, with transport facilities etc. It will get rid of a lot of the chaos that takes place now.
If the rail link is put in, park'n''ride could be really easily organised with a huge secured car park remote from the ground.:cha (5):

Would be good If bands played their too, Instead of going to places like Machester or London to see them.

There's no way Hicks an co are going to leave this stadium lying idle for most of the year believe me.This stadium will stage some of the biggest bands around but there's no way they're going to announce that yet incase it affects planning permission but it will happen.

first post lads..



LOVE IT, awesome and unique
Thank you Tom and George. You have given us excatly what we wanted as in the fans survey. It is modern , and at the same time it is traditional with the four stands. The kop is out of this world.
Thank god you never give us a souless bowl-shaped stadium , these dont generate any atmosphere.

Imagine the players coming out at pitch level looking up to this massive steep kop. It will scare the **** out of them. Well done.

It is now over to you Liverpool city council , DONT LET US DOWN.

Welcome aboard :)

The new stadium; I say free tickets should be given out to us Anfield residents - so we can be the first to go in and have a look at the place - we could have a free invite to the first match or something :) :) :)

Well I love It.

And yes it will end up a 76,000/78,000 seater one day.

I am so glad I put my name down for a season ticket a few years back, I may actually have a chance of getting one in my lifetime now:handclap:

LIVERPOOL FC wants to raise £100m in a deal that will see a corporate sponsor awarded naming rights to its new stadium, it emerged last night. Read (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/07/26/anfield-naming-rights-worth-100m-64375-19520801/)

A NEW train station needed to allow Liverpool FC to have an expanded 76,000-seater stadium can be ready by the time the ground opens in 2010. Read (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/07/26/lfc-new-5m-train-station-could-be-ready-in-time-for-ground-opening-64375-19520803/)

I'd be wary of arists impressions and the eventual reality. For example, Coventry's Ricoh Arena...

Artists impression...
http://www.sportsvenue-technology.com/projects/coventry/images/coventry_02.jpg

Real thing...
http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/sports/gallery2/d/205-1/coventry-arena-air-aa09017b.jpg

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2854/aerialstadiumsoutheastsw3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Will be a sad sad sad day the day we leave, wonder if they'll let us in with screwdrivers to remove our seats :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

New stadium looks stunning, mind the internal pics are definately rush jobs.

I disagree with giving away public park-land to any private business. If L.F.C. can't make it's way in this economic world then it deserves to go bust, the same as any other business. It's the thin end of the wedge as more and more park-land is given away. Any other private organisation will expect the same consideration. It does prove one thing, though ...don't expect Liverpool Council to be the custodians of anything that was donated for the benefit of the people.

Spot on.:034:

Why couldn't they build it in 'Kirkby'???:unibrow:

LIVERPOOL FC wants to raise £100m in a deal that will see a corporate sponsor awarded naming rights to its new stadium, it emerged last night. Read (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/07/26/anfield-naming-rights-worth-100m-64375-19520801/)

A NEW train station needed to allow Liverpool FC to have an expanded 76,000-seater stadium can be ready by the time the ground opens in 2010. Read (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/07/26/lfc-new-5m-train-station-could-be-ready-in-time-for-ground-opening-64375-19520803/)


In 5 - 10 years every stadium in the Premier League will have corporate names like in the USA. Personally i've got no problem with it.

LIVERPOOL FC’s new Anfield stadium will have a “skywalk” at the top of the Kop offering views across the city to Wales, the Daily Post can reveal. Read (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/08/09/turbine-and-skywalk-plan-for-new-anfield-stadium-64375-19597959/)

I disagree with giving away public park-land to any private business... ...It does prove one thing, though ...don't expect Liverpool Council to be the custodians of anything that was donated for the benefit of the people.

The 'park' at this point was a run-down sports centre, a sea of broken tarmac and some scruffy grass and has been from many, many years.

Council sold a lease to LFC at a nominal rent (how much would you have paid for a couple of acres of tarmac?) and will reap the reward of regeneration of swathes of Anfield from funds generated by the development.

Good management of assets and a good deal I think and one the council should be congratulated on.

I disagree with giving away public park-land to any private business. If L.F.C. can't make it's way in this economic world then it deserves to go bust, the same as any other business. It's the thin end of the wedge as more and more park-land is given away. Any other private organisation will expect the same consideration. It does prove one thing, though ...don't expect Liverpool Council to be the custodians of anything that was donated for the benefit of the people.


this is mostly a car park and the park has been run down for years, this will give a well needed lift to the whole area, you must be a blue nose.

this is mostly a car park and the park has been run down for years, this will give a well needed lift to the whole area, you must be a blue nose.

I am a former Anfield Road season ticket holder and I don't agree with them building the new ground in the park.

:)

I'm a Kemlyn Road side standy type seasie holder and if it wasn't for LFC and the new ground then Anfield would never have any chance to make any kind of recovery.

So some peoples' argument seems to be, that if any land in the custody of the Council becomes run-down, then it should be given away to a private company. I know this is the Councils' policy, but they aren't honest enough to admit it.
I thought the Council had a duty to protect green-spaces...but I guess that's just another duty they neglect.

The area has been maintained by the city with precious little funds from the likes of us.

There has been a car park on this site for at least 30years used only on match days. Others days you might see one man and his dog and hypodermic using the space.

Council have not given it away but have leased it LFC and have got substantial funds for regeneration of the area. There will be new homes and reviatilised areas (currently a gangland of yobs and arsonists). The vernon sangster centre will have a new home in the stadium. The park as a whole will be refurbished and maintained.

Hundreds of thousands will enjoy the new stadium and millions will be generated in rates. A great stadium and a great image of the city will be beamed around the world.

But, no; you prefer to have a few acres of scrubland so that you can have something to moan about.

The parks of Liverpool are not a land-bank for private development (or schools or hospitals) but belong to the people of Liverpool and future generations.
Other considerations come second to that important point.
As I remember it, L.F.C. intended to expand by purchasing local houses...until they suddenly noticed a "run down park" over the road.

A park that we are mainly building on the car park section as well as sorting out a new Vernon Sangster sports facility. A park thet LFC are paying a rent every year to the council, a park that LFC will ensure is kept up to scratch. A park that has been left to rot and decay for years without either the locals or the council that arsed about it.

Hundreds of millions of pounds will now be kept in the local economy.

If LFC had moved to say speke, then the whole of that part of North Liverpool would decay even further as it would take many many years to get any half arsed investment to do anything in the area.

The fact that the train line will now more than likely reopen to passenger traffic to give more transport options also will help.

Maybe we should ask Knowsley council if they have any space for us as well?

dead-on jon.

Nobody gave a tinker's curse for this piece of grotty car park. When somebody wants to do something positive with it, it suddenly becomes a much-loved and cherished, lush and verdant park.

What is this - jealousy?? or let's be honest, sour grapes and a massive inferiority complex.

All these people coming here making money and making the city a great place again - should be banned the lot of them!!! I like poverty, I like dereliction, I like a desperately run-down city - at least then I don't look so bad in comparison.

@petromax...you seem to be obsessed that it's only a car-park. How long does it take to dig up and plant trees? Must be beyond the 'powers that be' at the Council.
Using your approach, any park in Liverpool is at risk of development if it has a car-park or has been run-down.
There were other options for L.F.C. but they want a nice setting overlooking a park, rather than being amongst the local population.
And before you say it's 'only a car-park' again, I think you'll find that even the Council would describe the site as part of Stanley Park...and who are we to disagree.
Now before anyone asks me where L.F.C. should go, I say anywhere they want, so long as it's not on public green-space or Park-land within the City of Liverpool. I don't think I can state my position any clearer.

You are right LFC is a private company. They might have chosen to buy up a few more streets around the ground. Bulldozed the houses and left the rest to rot and as a private company would have every right to do so.

So, this is a good deal. Council are using this asset for the benefit of the people in the area; to improve the park; to keep it maintained, fix the lake, police the area and more to make decent places to live across a wide area. This is good managment of an otherwise unwanted asset for the purpose for which it is intended (ie the benefit of the people in the area) and they are to be congratulated.

It has the hugely valuable spin-off of being of great benefit to at least half of the rest of Liverpool, to it's international reputation and, a piece of good luck (but fortune favours the brave), may yet re-open more public transport for the people and a number of rail stations on the line between the north docks and Edge Hill, thus bringing new life to an even wider area.

However some people seem obsessed with knocking any change for reasons I know not why but I guess it's got something to do with jealousy, short-sightedness or they've got nothing better to do. Since I don't know why, perhaps you might explain why you object to all these good things.

Why would Liverpool want to move from the area they've always been in Marky?

Just because Everton might be moving to Kirkby when they've had various grounds in a similar area over their history, doesn't mean that Liverpool should move more than a few hundred yards.

Maybe we should move somewhere better and completely and utterly screw up the whole regeneration plan, as it won't go ahead without us.

Would you go through Stanley Park at night time? It'll be far safer in the future and with the rent the club are paying to the council for it as well as renewing the sports centre and trying to make the Anfield area better for the residents with more facilities.

You can't surely blame LFC for trying to do what is best for them in the area that they have always been in since the club was formed.

Maybe you should speak to a guy called Mick Stanley, afterall the park is named after his family.

As one of the many who didn't want us to move grounds in the 1st place, I have to say the excellence of the new design makes it all seem slightly more bearable. The original "justanotherdome" type stadium wasn't good enough. It had to be special. The original wasn't, this is.
Except for one thing.
I can't quite get my head round the fact the end opposite the new Kop will only hold about 4,500 seats. Won't it look a bit odd and make the ground look out of proportion? No wonder they don't show computer generated pictures of what that part of the ground will look like. Or if they have and anyone's got them, I wouldn't mind seeing them.
I'm assuming it was due to the fact that at this stage it had to be that way to fit in with the 60,000 limit that they had planning permission for, and that will be the 1st part to be extended in years to come.
Considering it is all so different to the original plan, surely a bit more tinkering wouldn't have done any harm and could have avoided this.
Or maybe I'm just splitting hairs?

Rather than unbalanced it would put greater emphasis on the kop and play down the supporter's end.

It's been assumed (though no one has said) that this is end where the extra seats to make the bigger capacity will be, but this would mean changing the roof (which is sloped now).

I had hoped the corners would get filled in to make the extra capacity (with no need to change roof). It still needn't be a bowl but more like the way the corners are filled in now at Anfield.

I think these open corners 'leak' atmosphere and Parry has previously said that open corners were not right for the club.

It will only hold that number initially, but it will be expanded when they get permission to increase the capacity.

Well, you'll never hear me object to a developer building anything they like on their own land. It's a bit rich, though, when they grab community assets because their own land is suddenly not good enough for them.

They have paid US for an asset which will ENABLE not only the preservation of that asset but so much more besides.

Everybody wins (except maybe Evertonians, but they are frying their own fish, or Kirkby's or Tesco's)

new stadium vid...wow

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N156710070817-1409.htm



Its Going to be The Best stadium in the world

It is now over to you Liverpool city council , DONT LET US DOWN.

new stadium vid...wow

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N156710070817-1409.htm



Its Going to be The Best stadium in the world

It is now over to you Liverpool city council , DONT LET US DOWN.

Great video, pool08! I really like the way the new owners of Liverpool, Hicks and Gillette, have tuned into the importance of the Kop to Liverpool FC and the supporters overall. The new Anfield looks as if it is going to be an extra intimidating place for rival teams to come to and wonderful for the Reds team and supporters!

Chris :handclap: :handclap: :handclap: :handclap: :handclap: :handclap:

THE final slice of public funding for the scheme that will see a new home for Liverpool FC in Stanley Park was agreed last night.

The board of the Northwest Regional Development Agency voted an award of £9.3m to add to the £9m already given from the European Objective 1 fund.

The decision paves the way for Liverpool FC’s new owners, George Gillett and Tom Hicks, to start work on a new home for the club once their new planning application is approved.

Last night, Steve Broomhead, chief executive of the NWDA, welcomed the decision of his board.

He said: “The £18m of NWDA and Objective 1 money will lever in a private investment of around £300m and that is a tremendous return. The scheme is extremely important for the regeneration of Anfield and Beckfield.

“The cash will go towards refurbishing the park and building a new community partnership centre alongside the new ground. The decision is a major step towards carrying out this project.”

Liverpool City Council has agreed to underwrite any losses incurred by the NWDA should the US-based owners fail to secure private sector cash for the new stadium.

But there is confidence within the council and the NWDA that there will be no financial hurdles for the two owners, despite reported problems due to the current credit crunch.

With the new planning application going to the planning committee within months it means work on the new ground could start early in 2008, with opening planned for the start of the 2010/11 season.

The cash has been earmarked for an improvement scheme in Stanley Park which will see the historic park given its biggest- ever facelift.

There was a slight possibility that the vital public funding may not have been granted, and that could have meant the entire project being halted or held up.

This is because the whole scheme is dependent on the new stadium being built as part of an overall regeneration package.

The NWDA, set up to help improve the quality of life and economic prosperity in the region, has awarded the grant in an attempt to drive forward the proposed development and regeneration of the Anfield area of the city.

The proposed scheme includes the creation of a shop-lined plaza on the current ground site and also the restoration of surrounding historic structures in the park, which was awarded planning permission earlier this week.

The new stadium will have a stone-work base on the north, west and east sides with mainly glass facades above. The south side will be clad in metal and overlook the Plaza.

One striking feature of the ground will see the south east and south west corners of the stadium visually open, providing views from the park deep into its heart.

The new LFC ground will also incorporate dedicated facilities for the Anfield Sport and Community Centre and Liverpool Hope University, with external facilities including tennis courts and multi-use games areas.

surprise surprise CABE are against the new design

http://www.cabe.org.uk/default.aspx?contentitemid=2096&refid=365&sl=3.2.3

surprise surprise CABE are against the new design

http://www.cabe.org.uk/default.aspx?contentitemid=2096&refid=365&sl=3.2.3

Thanks, SteH. From the URL you posted:

Whilst this proposal has the makings of an exemplary scheme, we are disappointed that at this stage the design does not successfully achieve a cohesive and graceful architectural response to the generating idea relating to the Kop. Notwithstanding this, we acknowledge the efforts to work with the park’s topography and the work that has gone into understanding the local context.

We think that more work is required to investigate thoroughly the consequences for the architecture of the idea. The success of the stadium will be dependent on how this strong idea is resolved in detail. For example, the meeting of the Kop and the adjoining stands is far from convincing in its execution; the two come across as separate buildings each with their own identity. These two distinct elements should come together in a more convincing manner for the stadium to be read as a successful whole. The ‘wrap’ around and over the Kop projecting over the stadium is a compelling, if intimidating idea. We think that the elegance and power of this idea needs to be reinforced in the architecture rather than diluted through unnecessary complexity of detail and materials. For example the two roofs projecting either side of the wrap are less significant elements which should be reflected in the way the different components meet, the roof edge detail, and the material chosen. We also wonder whether the material of the wrap itself is right for the job; the choice of metal-cladding will create a faceted effect where perhaps a more cohesive, unified solution might be better.

A key challenge is to ensure the stadium sits lightly in the park. Our concern is that the weight and bulk of the stadium will be unduly emphasised by the dominant roofline and the approach to key elevations, particularly those facing the park and Anfield Plaza. Both threaten to obscure the main idea of the architecture and undermine efforts made elsewhere to ensure the building sits well in the park. The idea is strong enough to ensure that each elevation responds well to its specific relationship to the park. We would like to see further work done on the elevations to resolve the relationships. With a more rigorous approach to the architecture, we think that the weaknesses in the elevations can be resolved. . . .

It will indeed be interesting to see if the American owners of LFC, George Gillett and Tom Hicks, will be convinced to modify the design, or if the design they approved will go ahead.

All the best

Chris

It would appear from Saturdays Daily Post that the designers are working alongside the council planners to make sure they get it right. Even though CABE can make their recommendations the council have the final say and with Everton moving to Knowsley I dont think the council would dare risk losing Liverpool as well.

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/10/13/date-set-to-decide-fate-of-liverpool-fc-s-new-stadium-64375-19944790/

It would appear from Saturdays Daily Post that the designers are working alongside the council planners to make sure they get it right. Even though CABE can make their recommendations the council have the final say and with Everton moving to Knowsley I dont think the council would dare risk losing Liverpool as well.

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/10/13/date-set-to-decide-fate-of-liverpool-fc-s-new-stadium-64375-19944790/

Unless CABE make enough fuss to get it 'called in' - when it will be out of the city's hands

Costs gone up to 400m.

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_headline=liverpool-stadium-costs-rise-to-pound-400m%26method=full%26objectid=20012545%26siteid=50 061-name_page.html

Costs gone up to 400m.

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_headline=liverpool-stadium-costs-rise-to-pound-400m%26method=full%26objectid=20012545%26siteid=50 061-name_page.html


That's alright, we'll finance it from all the Champions League money we now won't get. :rolleyes:

Chris

It's only half time yet Chris have faith (in the refs) ;)

We were talking about money spent by managers on the other thread weren't we Chris. A bloke on the phone-in mentioned that Rafa has spent 100m alone on Bellamy, Pennant, Torres, Crouch, Vorinin and Kuyt, Fowler was free - he was bemoaning the strike force saying that Kuyt and Vorinin do a lot of running but they'll be judged on their goals return, mind you Clattenberg could help out in that matter :unibrow:

I expect the yanks can dig a bit deeper when it comes to financing the ground, i've never seen a project yet run on time or in budget.

It's only half time yet Chris have faith (in the refs) ;)

We were talking about money spent by managers on the other thread weren't we Chris. A bloke on the phone-in mentioned that Rafa has spent 100m alone on Bellamy, Pennant, Torres, Crouch, Vorinin and Kuyt, Fowler was free - he was bemoaning the strike force saying that Kuyt and Vorinin do a lot of running but they'll be judged on their goals return, mind you Clattenberg could help out in that matter :unibrow:

I expect the yanks can dig a bit deeper when it comes to financing the ground, i've never seen a project yet run on time or in budget.

Voronin came from Bayer Leverkusen on a free transfer. As for all the running around, it was the same last year, with Kuyt and Bellamy doing a lot of running for not much result. It seems that when Crouch is there to knock the ball down or make some of his clever touches we get something going but otherwise it's more or less the big boot up the field which goes out of the touchline. They should work the ball forward from the back but they don't. :(

Chris

On the contrary, this bloke reckons it's the big boot with crouch on, especially when introducing him late to chase games ebbing away. I also note that Rafa said lfc was the only team playing football in the Derby yet the equaliser came from our corner and a boot out to Vorinin and a boot down the centre for Gerard to pick up and chase.

Furthermore, he said that Vorinin and Kuyt coming back into midfield is encrouching on areas that are Gerrard's department and crowding the area out.

Mmmm, well watch how many times Reina boots the ball up the field and it goes out the opposite touchline, or else one of the backs does the same thing. That is what I think is wasteful, not so much a directed ball to Crouch's head.

Chris

I'm looking forward to the Lfc - Arsenal game on Sunday.

Hopefully, we'll have won by then, even though our earlier kick off comes after a thursday night game.

I mean 'some' people might moan about that.

I mean 'some' people might moan about that.

Not you though eh, Ged? :) Actually I wonder if Everton could have arranged to have the day of the match changed so there wouldn't be this short interval between the matches. I will also be interested to see how Liverpool will fare against Arsenal. Normally I would say we will give a good account of ourselves but after our recent pedestrian form I am fearful. :rolleyes:

Chris

There's only one outcome Chris - rest assured.

Arsenal knocked in seven wonder goals and Liverpool are struggling - no contest - a Liverpool win of course - I mean it.

I think the 'top 4' big clubs might have some sway with officialdom - moving games, removing refs etc etc - we know our place :disgust:

I think the 'top 4' big clubs might have some sway with officialdom - moving games, removing refs etc etc - we know our place :disgust:

Something else for you to feel Blue about. :(

I wonder if this price hike includes building the new train station and much bigger stadium,bigger attendence wise I mean? If not that's some increase.

Liverpool's stadium move granted (http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/click/rss/1.0/-/1/hi/england/merseyside/7081610.stm)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44018000/jpg/_44018653_newliverpool49.jpg (http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/click/rss/1.0/-/1/hi/england/merseyside/7081610.stm)

Liverpool Football Club's plans for a new £400m stadium are passed by Liverpool City Council.

Liverpool's stadium move granted (http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/click/rss/1.0/-/1/hi/england/merseyside/7081610.stm)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44018000/jpg/_44018653_newliverpool49.jpg (http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/click/rss/1.0/-/1/hi/england/merseyside/7081610.stm)

Liverpool Football Club's plans for a new £400m stadium are passed by Liverpool City Council.

Some strong rumours sweeping round now that this isnt going to happen and they are reverting back to Plan A.

http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=54158
http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=43785

Seen that in the Daily Mirror,Liverpool have got themselves a pair of charlatans to run the club,they're out to screw Liverpool for everything they can get.Looks like they took the wrong offer when they knocked back the DIC bid,any friends of George Bush were always going to be corrupt.

The stadium share never really went away...and may emerge again. Both clubs have no firm project in place that says they are going to build 100%.

PARRY: WE ARE COMMITTED TO NEW STADIUM

Liverpoolfc.tv 15 December 2007
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drill...71215-1353.htm


Following press speculation on Saturday morning concerning Liverpool's new stadium in Stanley Park, Rick Parry today said: 'We remain absolutely committed to the building of a new stadium which will improve on the original design'
Chief Executive Rick Parry told liverpoolfc.tv: "We remain absolutely committed to the building of a new stadium which will improve on the original design inherited by Tom Hicks and George Gillett when they came into the club.

"It will have a capacity of around 70,000, be higher quality and have a substantially increased Kop which will form the centrepiece of the new plans.

"Ever since the original designs were unveiled, we have been continuously revising and refining with the intention of delivering the best possible solution to our future needs.

"The situation in the credit markets has not affected our design, programme, or implementation of building our new stadium. The priority has always been to build a winning team on the pitch and everything else we do is geared towards that."

LFC: Reds rubbish 'stadium scrapped' reports
Dec 15 2007

LIVERPOOL FC today rubbished reports they had pulled the plug on plans for the new Anfield.

Certain media outlets reported the club were set to scrap plans for their new £400m stadium because funding for it has been hit by the crackdown on worldwide credit markets.

It was claimed the volatile financial situation was going to force American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett into taking on a smaller loan and see them ditch the revised plans for a 70,000 seat arena in favour of the original 60,000-capacity project.

The reports also stated the project would cost around £700m.

But Reds chief executive Rick Parry has today moved to assure fans there is nothing in the reports and the Stanley Park scheme is still on-track.

Parry told the club website: “'We remain absolutely committed to the building of a new stadium which will improve on the original design inherited by Tom Hicks and George Gillett when they came into the club.

“It will have a capacity of around 70,000, be higher quality and have a substantially increased Kop which will form the centrepiece of the new plans.

“Ever since the original designs were unveiled, we have been continuously revising and refining with the intention of delivering the best possible solution to our future needs.

“The situation in the credit markets has not affected our design, programme, or implementation of building our new stadium.

“The priority has always been to build a winning team on the pitch and everything else we do is geared towards that.”

The ECHO exclusively revealed the proposed look for the new stadium back in July.

It will be built next to a community partnership centre, club museum and shop, club offices and a conference and banquet centre.

LFC also want to build a car park for 970 vehicles together with a hotel, commercial offices, retail outlets for food and drink, and housing on the existing Anfield site.

The unique glass and steel dominated structure will ultimately be capable of housing almost 80,000 fans, hopefully before the first game is played in August 2010.

The stadium share never really went away...and may emerge again. Both clubs have no firm project in place that says they are going to build 100%.

It wont emerge again if Everton are only willing to chip in £50 million, Keith Wyness is probably cheeky enough to ask though.

Rick Parry today reassured Liverpool fans they will have a stadium to be proud of in time for the 2011-12 season.

17 December 2007

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drill...71217-1419.htm


Parry admits the Reds have had to rethink plans for the futuristic designs revealed earlier in the year, but he is confident the new 70,000 seater stadium will still be a fitting home for the club.

He said: "We are now considering two schemes but the stadium will be a 70,000 seater.

"The new stadium will be a significant improvement on the original plans and a slightly different version of the new ones.

"And it will be a massive improvement on where we were 12 months ago, if not quite as dramatic as the plans unveiled in the summer.

"The single tier Kop remains fundamental to the design and we are not expecting any delays – it should be on schedule for 2011."

"The single tier Kop remains fundamental to the design and we are not expecting any delays – it should be on schedule for 2011."

Shouldnt he mean "any further delays". I got a new A-Z the other day and it has "Liverpool Fc stadium - opening 2007" on the page where Stanley Park is:rolleyes:

It has been nothing but delay after delay with this project. I hope for everyones sake they hurry up with the new design and start building the bloody thing. I have got a strong feeling that these new designs are going to be a bit of a let down. I agree with steH, the original design was meant to be finished in 2009, this design in 2010 and these new designs have now pushed it further back to 2011! Will we ever get a new stadium? I really don't know anymore.
I feel sorry for the people of Anfield who now have to wait even longer before any regeneration can take place. For the sake of the people, just make a decision and start building it! :angry::angry::lfc:

As I said, both clubs are dragging their feet - not one of the stadia has a firm construction project planned, just drawings and models. And prices for stadia are spiraling upwards!!!!!

It is no secret that the LFC owners wanted a shared stadium...as did the EFC owners too. Watch this space.....

.

I wonder if 'Tesco' may show an Interest?:unibrow:

I wonder if 'Tesco' may show an Interest?:unibrow:

The price of the LFC stadium must be way out of reach to talk about a share to pacify the fans, and then Tesco may come over the hill to Rescue.

According to tonights Echo the 'council spokesman' has said a new planning application will be needed of they are looking at 70,000 as a environmental study will be required. There is no way this will be ready for 2011. I really feel sorry for the people in the surrounding area whose lives are on hold due to the uncertainty. the incompetence and arrogance of those in charge is overwhelming

Liverpool Football Club's plans for a new stadium have been delayed by a year due to spiralling costs.

According to local newspaper reports, the news means that the scheme – designed by Texas-based HKS Architects – will have to apply for a third planning application.

It is understood that the designs will have to be scaled back as the club tries to rein in costs, which had been estimated at around £400 million.

Liverpool originally hoped to open its glamorous new stadium in time for the 2010/11 season, but the club's website now claims the stadium is 'on track' to open in the 2011/12 season.

It is also rumoured that Atherden Fuller Leng Architects' original stadium plans – dropped when the club came under new ownership – have resurfaced, but this has yet to be confirmed.

Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry issued a release stating the new ground will be 'slightly downgraded'.

'We are now considering two schemes but the stadium will be a 70,000-seater,' he said.

'The single-tier Kop stand [which will project the voices of fans across the playing surface] still remains fundamental to the design and we are not expecting any delays – it should be on schedule for 2011.'

As I said, both clubs are dragging their feet - not one of the stadia has a firm construction project planned, just drawings and models. And prices for stadia are spiraling upwards!!!!!

It is no secret that the LFC owners wanted a shared stadium...as did the EFC owners too. Watch this space.....

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Have you got inside info or something cos I cant see how this would logistically work?

Everton only need £50 million for Kirkby, Liverpool need at least £300 million for Stanley Park. How can a 50-50 share happen given the vast differences in what each team will contribute. Everton will be loving this, pressing ahead with their own plans while Liverpool are in disarray. They are happy to come to Liverpool with the begging bowl when they are desperate but they wont be offering any assistance now, not by way of arrangements that would be acceptable to Liverpool anyway.

Remember when Liverpool were wondering what to do about Anfield in the late 90s and Everton had Kings Dock and only needed £30 million to have a 50% share in it - they werent asking Liverpool then, they were going on and on about how their home would be an iconic building on the watefront before they admitted they could never afford it and let the whole city down.

Have you got inside info or something cos I cant see how this would logistically work?

Everton only need £50 million for Kirkby, Liverpool need at least £300 million for Stanley Park. How can a 50-50 share happen given the vast differences in what each team will contribute. Everton will be loving this, pressing ahead with their own plans while Liverpool are in disarray. They are happy to come to Liverpool with the begging bowl when they are desperate but they wont be offering any assistance now, not by way of arrangements that would be acceptable to Liverpool anyway.


A stadium share will be a totally new arrangement with other interested parties (council, Tesco, etc). ..and probably a new location. Anfield/Walton are poor for transport infrastructure - a predominantly residential area that should not have a large stadium near it.


Remember when Liverpool were wondering what to do about Anfield in the late 90s and Everton had Kings Dock and only needed £30 million to have a 50% share in it - they werent asking Liverpool then, they were going on and on about how their home would be an iconic building on the watefront before they admitted they could never afford it and let the whole city down.

Kings Dock was a Council initiative. They approached EFC. It was to be a multi-purpose arena and two club's using it would have precluded other events. EFC were in no position to bring in LFC.

EFC could have afforded it - poor management. the cost went up to £50K plus, but still a bargain. Banks would throw money at you for that project.

It was a good thing as that stadium would have been totally out of place on th