Get it all off your chest here.

And keep it off the Old Brook House thread.

PLEASE. :)

I won't generalise cos I was one not long ago, and most of my mates were too. Not all of them are bad but the bad ones spoil it for the rest.

As for the old thing of "scrounging off the tax payers" while they don't pay tax they pay the universities thousands, likewise to their landlords, to the pubs and clubs, shops, etc.

But I can sympathise with people living in "student city" along Smithdown Road (I'm off the edge of it) though. I knew someone who lived in one street, a long long street, and he was in one of the last non-student houses in the road and had endless trouble with late night parties on either side and half-eaten takeaways and vomit in the front yard. Even round ours, it's not so bad but it's a disgrace seeing chips of trays over people's front walls and all along the pavements. There was greasy remains of something smeared over someone's car windscreen not long back.

Attitudes leave a lot to be desired too. I realise for a lot it's their first time away from home (I was there too) but Liverpool wasn't built for their purpose, there's other people around you too and they're not there to clean up after you. A lot are oblivious to this.

Ironically the ones I've had most trouble with are the postgrads and mature students. They've gone through the student life and grown up, but then suddenly reverted to obnoxious arrogant childishness.

Get it all off your chest here.

And keep it off the Old Brook House thread.

PLEASE. :)

I am sure students are pretty much the same worldwide. My wife Donna and I own a condo apartment in a small apartment building (http://flickr.com/photos/29106019@N00/477045897/) that is only a block away from the Johns Hopkins University campus in Baltimore. There are a number of students renting in the building and unfortunately on occasions they have loud parties and we have to either stamp on the floor and/or call the police to shut the parties down. :(

Chris

Calling Students lazy is a bit questionable. A lot work as well as study and don't recieve a penny in help. The Majority are doing something worthwhile with there lives and not sitting round on there backsides. Yet there are plenty of unemployed wasters who will never work in this city and never contribute to society.

Students are generally young kids, 18 to 22 and leave home comforts for pastures new, which i give them credit, though some do just send there washing home. Without there parents, they have the freedom they not had before to basically enjoy themselves in a more adult way. Thats just a natural reaction from young people. Yes it not nice that some maybe selfish and don't think of the other residents when they hold parties, but am sure these issues can be tackled.

I am someone whos partied, and still does occaisonaly, with a few students. Can't say they hold more noiser parties than some people in my road who like to carry on after closing time. Parties are good and being sociable.

You learn a lot of students struggle and end up in great debt just to pass there chosen causes. I know a student girl who holds down 2 part time jobs as well as study and still able to party. Far from lazy.

Does anyone know how many the student population of Liverpool is?

Does anyone know how many the student population of Liverpool is?


Very high, theres is a load of Student Accomodations. I have had the pleasure to know and work with a few, from home and abroad. Yes there are some a**holes, i can think of a few posh boys who act like there all working class then turn there nose at genuine working class, Donny Tourettes Syndrome i call it.

I won't generalise cos I was one not long ago, and most of my mates were too. Not all of them are bad but the bad ones spoil it for the rest.

As for the old thing of "scrounging off the tax payers" while they don't pay tax they pay the universities thousands, likewise to their landlords, to the pubs and clubs, shops, etc.

But I can sympathise with people living in "student city" along Smithdown Road (I'm off the edge of it) though. I knew someone who lived in one street, a long long street, and he was in one of the last non-student houses in the road and had endless trouble with late night parties on either side and half-eaten takeaways and vomit in the front yard. Even round ours, it's not so bad but it's a disgrace seeing chips of trays over people's front walls and all along the pavements. There was greasy remains of something smeared over someone's car windscreen not long back.

Attitudes leave a lot to be desired too. I realise for a lot it's their first time away from home (I was there too) but Liverpool wasn't built for their purpose, there's other people around you too and they're not there to clean up after you. A lot are oblivious to this.

Ironically the ones I've had most trouble with are the postgrads and mature students. They've gone through the student life and grown up, but then suddenly reverted to obnoxious arrogant childishness.

I'm one of the only non student houses In my street too!:eek:

Good job the majority of them are small and skinny and eat mostly junk food which saps their power.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Nah, there are Uni students In the boxing gym I go to and have gotten on with them ok.

One goes to the Greenbank gym too where I lift my weights.

Does anyone know how many the student population of Liverpool is?
Yes, it is now just over 50,000.

That's 50,000 pint glasses required cos the women drink them too yet they're always supposedly skint and I thought gap years were supposed to be between/after study, not before like these days.

TO be honest Max, they sound like they are having a better time than you with all there debauchery. Give me parties and sex anyday over boxing.

Sex can be waited for, I'd prefer It with a partner and not someone you'd pull In a club like most people my age do.:PDT10

I'm not a big people person though otherwise I might of partied more, I find It hard to mix with people.:PDT10

You dare compare boxing with something as nutty and weak as parties! :mad:

To be honest too, i think that Liverpool girls are very fashion!! They are buying make up, fragances, clothes, etc. all the time. They have birds in her head!

In the life, are more importants things, not only boys and clothes!!

Students. What do you think of them?
With the expansion of universities as the government pursues a target of getting 50% of school leavers into higher education and the consequent widened access and increased student choice on offer the student body is now very diverse in its make-up. Maybe some of the old stereotypes of students will now change also. With the new funding arrangements (loans rather than grants, and higher tuition fees) an increasing number of them are also workers as well as students.

That's 50,000 pint glasses required cos the women drink them too yet they're always supposedly skint and I thought gap years were supposed to be between/after study, not before like these days.

I knew 3 gap year students, and they all had trouble with their courses, and all dropped out. They each had their reasons but what each one boiled down to, I think, was that the one year break got them out of the mindset of studying, and they couldn't get back into it, compared to the rest of us who went from school to college to uni without a break.

That's 50,000 pint glasses required cos the women drink them too yet they're always supposedly skint and I thought gap years were supposed to be between/after study, not before like these days.

Aye theres tons on Smithdown Road In the pub everyday and the ones round here always seem to be able to afford at least a six pack of something.

I'm not a big people person though otherwise I might of partied more, I find It hard to mix with people.

Max, strangers are just potential friends you didn't meet yet.

Max, strangers are just potential friends you didn't meet yet.

:eek:

I don't like getting to know people In clubs though. Not a fan of pubs much either unless I'm taking a pic of one or watching sky sports.

I think the problem of them creating havoc in residential areas will be solved with the building of designated student accommodation-examples of such can be seen on Greek street and behind Lime street station.These centralised locations are within walking distances of the city centre and universities (John Moores at least.
Although,most of the problems described in iain's post can be witnessed on any given match day.

There was something in the Echo about the council not being too keen on having many areas of dedicated student accommodation as they don't want areas to be empty for weeks while students are away on holiday.
This was a few years ago and there seems to be loads of areas now.
The newest I can thing of is built around the Prince of Wales pub by the Royal.

I think the problem of them creating havoc in residential areas will be solved with the building of designated student accommodation-examples of such can be seen on Greek street and behind Lime street station.These centralised locations are within walking distances of the city centre and universities (John Moores at least.
Although,most of the problems described in iain's post can be witnessed on any given match day.

Do that many students use the accommodated flats though?

There is loads of student accommodation around the Great Crosshall, Tithebarn St, Marybone junction by the superlamb banana.

I have no problem with students. I was one for four years here in Liverpool, and plenty of times had people (non students) with a chip on their shoulder criticising me for being one. Yes, they can be noisy and thoughtless, and irresponsible and messy, but on the whole they're not inherantly evil like most of the scallies I've encountered.

Also, they're an income for Liverpool. Let's face it, there's no shipping left really, and what other industry is there? Not much. Students bring in a hell of a lot of money, and if they're blowing it all in the local shops and pubs that's fuelling the local industry.

Yes, they're not paying tax when at University, but they're not really costing the state much. Too often I've heard jobless people on benefits whining about students, probably more out of jealousy than anything else. I sure as hell pay a lot of tax now, and it more than makes up for tax I would've paid if I'd not bothered with University and taken up full-time employment in MacDonalds.

Students aren't a problem for Liverpool, not like unemployment, guns and gangs are. Sometimes I hear 'locals' going on about students but they never seem to have any explanation for the chip on their shoulder.

I agree with you in essence and certainly you can't generalise with students as i'm sure there are as many swots as grots but to use Shipping in your example may not have been wholly correct. I'm in Shipping and Liverpool now handles more tonnage and makes more money through shipping than it ever did. It's just that it's all containerised now and the new post Panamax system still to come will see this increase even further.

Sorry Ged, maybe I was being blase there. Perhaps I just mean now compared to the days when Liverpool handled vast quantities of imports from all over the world, and when we (as a nation) were leaders in manufacturing and industry.

I hated students when I was a kid. I don't know why, must have been images of The Young Ones on TV or something. I never dreamt of being a 'typical student' and never aspired to become one. I gained entry to John Moores for a 4 year degree course at the I M Marsh Campus and Studied PE. I still lived at home and had a part time job. Becuase it was a PE course, most 'fellow' students were into sport and fitness rather than the scruffier students that were based Town.

Sorry Ged, maybe I was being blase there. Perhaps I just mean now compared to the days when Liverpool handled vast quantities of imports from all over the world, and when we (as a nation) were leaders in manufacturing and industry.


No need to apologise mate, I knew what you meant - I would say definitely the manufacturing industry whereby we now seem to have become a service industry but hopefully it can sway the other way though it'll never get back to those heady heights.

I can honestly say that I've not really noticed students ... obviously can't be many around Anfield then. :D ... no - we are bothered by anti-social families and scallies galore. :disgust:

I havn't taken much notice to what students get up to and I havn't encountered any problems with them.
I do notice every time I walk around Anfield hoards of hoodies dressed all in black - like swarms of nasty insects :disgust: :disgust:

I'm sure students are not as vile as them. :neutral:

Snappel your are spot on, i find it amusing people who don't work calling students all kinds. Also if a student is working they still pay national insurance. They contribute to the country a lot more than your average unemployable scallie ever will.

Do that many students use the accommodated flats though?

I did for 2 years but after that I wanted a "real" house. But looking back I'd rather have stayed in flats owned by a proper organisation. Had much trouble with private landlords.

I did for 2 years but after that I wanted a "real" house. But looking back I'd rather have stayed in flats owned by a proper organisation. Had much trouble with private landlords.

Theres a house opposite ours that kept getting new students In because of the Landlords DIY jobs. :lol:

None of the landlords around here won't get the houses they rent out alleygate keys either so we have to leave the gate open for them on wheely bin night or they leave the bins by the gate. I have to move them Into the bin meeting point where the bin men empty them otherwise.

Also if a student is working they still pay national insurance. They contribute to the country a lot more than your average unemployable scallie ever will.

Then the money some of em contribute goes partly to fix up the messes they've caused.

Max, maybe u think different coz u are young still. But I do not like share a flat with students.
They life in a party Monday to Sunday, and if i have to work, i need to sleep.

I don't really think hat much different.

They only wake me up when my sister wakes up and shouts at them outside.:PDT_Xtremez_42:

I agree they make ridiculous amounts of noise alot.

It is difficult to explain. It is a problem of education. I would not like that my parents were straining in working to pay a good university to me, and I to spend in money in clothes, makeup and drink...

I studied until few time and work from 15 years old. I have not gone to the university, coz I have not had time. In a future, if I can do it, I like to study History...

My parents always showed me that when you grow, you have more rights but more obligations. Everything grows relatively. I did not have hour to be in house. But if I went of party and come back to house to 6am, to 8 my alarm clock was sounding. This I teach myself to moderate the time of leisure.

Sincerely, it hurts me not to have had the opportunity to go to the University, and see young people who has the opportunity and do not like it. I think that they are lucky of having this opportunity in the life, and the estan throwing for the window.

I have nieces from 2 to 19 years. I have 27 and it is surprising since everything has changed in a little time. Not the situation in England. But I think that the young people were mas responsibly. Also went to pubs, also it was drinking, but it had other things in the head. I see the English mad girls buying clothes, makeup, drinking... I surprise them very much.

If theirs dreams are to be Victoria Beckham, theirs lifes are very unhappies.

I agree.

I agree.

Its the future!!
http://www.stardoll.com/es/dolls/157/Victoria_Beckham.html

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Nicole Richie
http://www.fresnobeehive.com/archives/upload/2006/12/nicole-richie-beach-01.jpg

And Anahi, Paty Navidad, Vanessa Guzman, Alicia Machado, Sasha Sokol, Gaby Spanic, Maria Conchita Alonso, Mary Kate Olsen, Calista Flockhart, Christina Ricci, ... Differents models to imitate, is not than somes years ago.

Its very sad that, in Spain, an actress who had anorexia, is in the publicity with food to diet fastest!! and its legal, i do not know.

The emaciated, gaunt look doesn't appeal to me at all. :Smiliz_Kingz_PDT_13

I like em reeeeal thick and juicy.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Nicole Richie
http://www.fresnobeehive.com/archives/upload/2006/12/nicole-richie-beach-01.jpg

And Anahi, Paty Navidad, Vanessa Guzman, Alicia Machado, Sasha Sokol, Gaby Spanic, Maria Conchita Alonso, Mary Kate Olsen, Calista Flockhart, Christina Ricci, ... Differents models to imitate, is not than somes years ago.

Its very sad that, in Spain, an actress who had anorexia, is in the publicity with food to diet fastest!! and its legal, i do not know.


Nicole Richie looks like this - -
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/rubinda/d.jpg

Nicole Richie looks like this - -
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/rubinda/d.jpg


I totaly agree Lindy :handclap: :PDT11

I'm not being in the least bit catty either .... she really does look like Dobby !!

I'm not being in the least bit catty either .... she really does look like Dobby !!


Dobby has a bit more flesh on him though:)

I like em reeeeal thick and juicy.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:


I'll put in a good word for you when I next see Bella Emberg :unibrow: :)

Ha,ha, Max will say 'who is Bella Emberg ?' :D


.... anyway Jona - you are a bit too young to know her !

I've just Googled her.

:unibrow:

I am going to ask who Is Bella Emberg?

This is Bella Emberg (http://www.aveleyman.com/ActorsE/P00030669.HTML)

This is Bella Emberg (http://www.aveleyman.com/ActorsE/P00030669.HTML)


:PDT_Aliboronz_11: I like her

Hi everyone!

I am a student myself and I can tell you guys we're not so evil! most people who complain about the noise we make when partying were students years before. But it all changes when you are studying and their sons won't shut up at every single hour of the day. You can't generalise, you can't say it is all of us who vomit in your front door and pee in your backyard. That's not fair! We study to earn ourselves a future and we ain't getting a penny for that. Many students have their jobs to pay their tuition fees so it is not fair to say that our parents kill themselves to give us the money so we can study and we spend it right away.
Partying and having fun is a mean part of a student's life. There has to be a balance, you can't live for your degree but can't either go partying everyday. There's time for everyithing.


Excuse my English... by the end of the year it'll be much better, since I'm moving to Liverpool ^^. I hope I won't bother any non-student.

PS: I didn't mean to be mean. And I know many of you don't generalise and have a different opinion. But it is just that I hate when people say we've got everything and we don't appreciate it. It's not our fault people couldn't go to university on a regular basis.

Hi everyone!

I am a student myself and I can tell you guys we're not so evil! most people who complain about the noise we make when partying were students years before. But it all changes when you are studying and their sons won't shut up at every single hour of the day. You can't generalise, you can't say it is all of us who vomit in your front door and pee in your backyard. That's not fair! We study to earn ourselves a future and we ain't getting a penny for that. Many students have their jobs to pay their tuition fees so it is not fair to say that our parents kill themselves to give us the money so we can study and we spend it right away.
Partying and having fun is a mean part of a student's life. There has to be a balance, you can't live for your degree but can't either go partying everyday. There's time for everyithing.


Excuse my English... by the end of the year it'll be much better, since I'm moving to Liverpool ^^. I hope I won't bother any non-student.

PS: I didn't mean to be mean. And I know many of you don't generalise and have a different opinion. But it is just that I hate when people say we've got everything and we don't appreciate it. It's not our fault people couldn't go to university on a regular basis.


Nothing arong with partying Students. I love them x

Hi Yer Mate. Where are you from ? Many of us on here have been students.

Matisse said, "We continue to study nature and human nature all of our lives."

I think I would go along with that, and add a Welcome to you.

I only generalise the ones who live In my street and are too stupid to turn the noise down when drunk as feck.

I've known many ok ones with jobs and stuff like you mention.

As long as they know I'm master of Langdale Road then there'll be no problem.:PDT10

Some taxi drivers know my street as student land.

If students really knew how to partay, they'd be partaying like this song.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6NUxMgzHdic

I don't live in a studenty area thak God! I have nothing against them as I was once one but I feel resentment against soft southerners sometimes when I see local kids getting nothing and these posh prats coming here, partying for three years then sodding off to a good job somewhere.

I know a lot of our kids go elsewhere to uni but there is still a lot who don't and it is them I feel sorry for.

We get posh southerners or Irish ones.

They're back! Just spent all day enrolling the first of our 25,000 students at LJMU. They'll all be here by Wednesday. The other Unis. follow shortly bringing the total student population in Liverpool to over 50,000. :unibrow:

It's time for the locals to hibernate then :unibrow:

The students certainly make their presence felt in the city centre between now and xmas. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

I like the first few weeks, when the new ones are wandering around, not so much aimlessly but lost and confused. Reminds me of when I first came to Liverpool :PDT11

It's the international students I feel sorry for - often the first time out of their own country with a different language and culture to cope with as well as their studies.

It's the international students I feel sorry for - often the first time out of their own country with a different language and culture to cope with as well as their studies.


Shows what strong determined people they are. Could teach a thing or 2 to the local lazy scroungers who want for nothing.

They're back! Just spent all day enrolling the first of our 25,000 students at LJMU. They'll all be here by Wednesday. The other Unis. follow shortly bringing the total student population in Liverpool to over 50,000. :unibrow:

Theres some new Girl students moving In next door to me.

My mum gave them an old chester drawers and I was at the gym so I didn't get to show off and carry It for them. :(

I carried It down the stairs and left It outside our house too. :(

My mum reckons there friendly too. :(

Hope my mum offers them a cupboard or something next time.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

They're back! Just spent all day enrolling the first of our 25,000 students at LJMU. They'll all be here by Wednesday. The other Unis. follow shortly bringing the total student population in Liverpool to over 50,000. :unibrow:

I saw loads of them moving Into the accommodation on Greenbank road with balloons and everything!

It's the international students I feel sorry for - often the first time out of their own country with a different language and culture to cope with as well as their studies.

My sisters going to Uni In Paris but It's part of the University of London and It's their Paris Institude so she'll be surrounded by crusty British students anyway. Plus she speaks French and German well and her and my dad go to watch Frog films lots too.

Most Paris people speak English anyway when I went to Paris.

Chester drawers??? What are those Maxie. Big bloomers in a mock tudor fashion?

Pure scouse dat wuz Ged, I understood him and I'm way outa practice.:002:

Chester drawers??? What are those Maxie. Big bloomers in a mock tudor fashion?

http://www.chrisdixonstudios.com/ajdgallery/images/chippendale-chest_bureau.jpg

I can pick it up by myself too.

So could I, I've got a car ;)

I have no car to use.

I carry It with my bare hands.

So when are you gonna introduce yourself to these girls, should they beware? No accidently dropping your towel on purpose now Max - that'd be naughty you know :)

I'll wait till my mum chats to them again.

I think it's a credit to the City that so many students want to come to Liverpool! Apart from the excellent educational oportunities the City affords, its people are the best and friendliest bar none! That's why many students choose to stay here after they've graduated.

I studied in London (many years ago) and I hardly knew my neighbours - compare that to the example Max quoted of his mum giving a chest of drawers to students moving next door to them - that's the friendly, welcoming face of Liverpool which personifies this City. :)

This probably well expresses my attitude to some of the students who have lived in our apartment building as well as those living nearby. . .

So Un-KOOL

Hip-hop Hopkins students are back; soon
they will be rip-rapping us with rococco rap.

I find an empty pack of KOOLs on the stoop,
a can of Bud Lite; a natcho swarms with ants.

I beeline for the dumpster, bunt their baggie
of beercans into the depths: HELLO HELLO!

As I turn back, a tourist Duck trundles past,
anorexic students, beer-bellied Ma'n'Pa blast

me with duck calls, ICK! QUACK QUACK QUACK.
I want to shove their pacifiers down their throats.

I have a scab on my scrotum, wish all goodwill:
hex 'em, flex 'em, a pox on the whole Student Body.

Christopher T. George

Tut tut and the seamen's mission is demolished.

You don't like students then? :unibrow:

As much as I despise Islamic fundamentalism I think its unfair of this govt to expect unis and lecturers to spy on radicals in their midst.

This is another example of big brotherism. How on earth can tutors do this?

Will someone simply interested in a less usual branch of Islam be suspected as a terrorist and banged up? Just reading the Koran will soon put someone under suspicion in a way that Das Kapital never achieved. It also erodes the trust and goodwill between university staff and students but the govt doesnt care.

I don't see that being workable. Like you say, are they going to treat everyone who reads the Koran as a suspect? Remember the shock and surprise in Leeds when it turned out one of the 7/7 London bombers was one of their neighbours, a "normal" lad with plenty of mates, who didn't seem interested in Islam?

You don't need a very long memory to recall how the Irish Catholic community in Britain were treated in darker days. Families were asked to inform on fathers, brothers and sons communities were divided and derided and many many innocent people went to prison.

The £15k debt facing every Mersey student
Sep 15 2007
EXCLUSIVE By David Higgerson, Liverpool Daily Post

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STUDENTS at Merseyside’s universities will graduate with an average debt of £15,000, with many expecting to owe more than £20,000, the Daily Post can reveal today.

The level of debt students in the region expect to accrue this year has risen by a quarter compared with last year.

Experts say it is largely down to the introduction of top-up fees which give universities the power to charge more for certain courses – up to £3,000 a year. And because the area’s universities have unusually high intakes of people living locally, economic experts fear rising graduate debt could damage the housing market in Merseyside in years to come.

Many students are having to borrow on average £50 a week just to get by, as well as putting in long hours in part-time jobs.

As universities prepare to return to class after the summer break this week, student bodies are warning top-up fees and a rapidly-rising cost of living would deter many students from going to university in the future.

They say it could also force those who do graduate into quick-to-find, but lower-paid, jobs so they could start clearing debt.

Figures just published show students attending the University of Liverpool (http://www.liv.ac.uk/) will, on average, add £4,730 to their debt over this academic year. Steady inflation would mean, after three years, that debt equating to £16,000.

The University of Chester (http://www.chester.ac.uk/) was not far behind at £4,646 of debt accrued over the next 12 months. Projected three-year debt is around the £14,300 mark.

Students at Liverpool John Moores University (http://www.ljmu.ac.uk/) expect to add £3,421 to their debt burden this year. The city’s third university, Liverpool Hope University (http://www.hope.ac.uk/), has students expecting to add £3,616 to their overdrafts, credit cards and student loans over the next 12 months. Once potential inflation is taken into account, the average debt will be above £13,000 over three years.

The highest figures for the region were from Edge Hill University (http://www.edgehill.ac.uk/), with campuses in Ormskirk and Liverpool, where students expect to add more than £6,000 to their debt levels this year, taking three years of debt to over £18,000.

Government figures suggest the average annual debt for students in 1998, after savings had been taken into account, was just £850.

Overall, that means the combined debt of all the undergraduates studying at universities in Cheshire, Merseyside and West Lancashire by the time they leave will be almost £500m.

Liverpool City Council surveys of high school students suggest their biggest fear about university was debt.

National Union of Students President Gemma Tumelty said “These figures show unequivocally that graduate debt is increasing because of the introduction of top-up fees.

“Creating a student funding package that doesn’t cripple students once they graduate isn't rocket science.

“The current student funding system means that graduates are hit with debt just as they are at their most vulnerable.

“Graduates face huge levels of debt and with that comes stark choices about whether they can afford to volunteer to raise their skill set, hold on for that ideal job, or add further qualifications. In many cases debt denies them any real choice at all.

“It is great to see numbers entering higher education are buoyant but the influence that rising debt has on students’ choices and the hours that they will need to dedicate to ow-paid part-time work, as well as their chances of saving, volunteering and retraining as graduates are ssues that need to be reconciled.”

Chris Rhodes, director of retail banking at Alliance & Leicester, which has a large presence in Liverpool, said the effects of student debt were most likely to hit people in their late 20s, and impact the housing market as a result.

He said: “The picture for the under-30s is dominated by student loans. A hangover of student debt is constraining their appetite for other borrowing and delaying their ability to get on the housing ladder.”

Walton MP Peter Kilfoyle said: “I voted against top-up fees because I could see this coming.

“A whole generation is now in debt and that is economically unsustainable for this country.”

The Liberal Democrats are now calling on banks to stop making getting into debt so easy, with many students holding large overdrafts with more than one bank.

Vincent Cable, shadow chancellor for the Liberal Democrats, said: “Banks are aggressively promoting debts among students, taking no account of the serious problems associated with getting heavily into debt at such a young age.

“There is an added issue that the government will not allow information about student debt to be included in pooled debt data that is shared among lenders. This means that banks are lending large sums of money to people because they are unaware of the debts they have already run up.”

Chester-based price comparison website moneysupermarket.com urged students not to open themselves up to temptation in the first year at university.

Spokesman Kevin Mountford said: “A tiered overdraft is often advisable. You need much more self-discipline if you go for an overdraft that lets you borrow the full amount in the first year. The danger is that, if you blow the full amount in year one, you leave yourself in a difficult situation in subsequent years.”

Source: Liverpool Daily Post (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/09/15/the-15k-debt-facing-every-mersey-student-64375-19794805/)

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Leader praises LJMU’s plan to prepare students for the real world
Sep 22 2007
by Alistair Houghton, Liverpool Daily Post

THE director-general of the Institute of Directors has praised a Liverpool John Moores University (http://www.ljmu.ac.uk/) scheme to make sure its graduates are ready for the world of work.

Miles Templeman yesterday launched the new Graduate Development Centre and backed LJMU’s graduate skills programme.

LJMU has overhauled all 420 undergraduate courses to include workplace-relevant skills. All students will be able to develop high-level World of Work skills – including leadership, finance, entrepreneurship and negotiation skills, to make them more sought after – devised by an advisory group featuring representatives from firms including Marks & Spencer, Airbus, Littlewoods and Sony.

Mr Templeman said: “LJMU is setting a template that will be copied the world over. I am confident LJMU will deliver because of what it has achieved already and because it fully understands the economic drivers facing business and industry today.”

LJMU’s vice-chancellor, Prof Michael Brown, said: “What we have decided to do is demanding and challenges the current status quo in higher education, but a strategic change of direction is essential if we are to prepare graduates.”

Source: Liverpool Daily Post (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/business/business-local/2007/09/22/leader-praises-ljmu-s-plan-to-prepare-students-for-the-real-world-64375-19828639/)

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I can honestly say that I've not really noticed students ... obviously can't be many around Anfield then. :D

Hi lindy,
I can come at this from both sides as 11 years ago I came here as a new student and lived in anfield for 7 years, long after I had finished my studies. I loved it there mainly because there weren't any students so I didn't get any hassle. Alot of students are scared of living in anfield for some reason but I can safely say that in all the years I lived there, the only puke and piddle I had on my step was a gift from the footy fans not students! :unibrow:

Alot of students do stay and put money back into the city for many years of their working lives so its not all bad.

Students do get a hard time from some mindless goons. Only yesterday I was in TJ's and a woman caught sight of my Uni swipe card (I work there) so immediately assumed I was a 'f****ng student' and started ranting about how she only gets £60 a week from the government and its not fair that students get all the handouts !!!! I was too shocked to speak :shock:
I lived on far less than that when I WAS a student and now I work 50-60 hour weeks to make sure I don't have to do it again.

However, I woud be the first to agree that there are some students doing pointless courses that have way too much time and money on their hands :)

the only puke and piddle I had on my step was a gift from the footy fans not students! :unibrow::)


This is unfair. Since standing on the kop went, they've gotta do it somewhere you know. :ninja:

:disgust: Hi lindy,
I can come at this from both sides as 11 years ago I came here as a new student and lived in anfield for 7 years, long after I had finished my studies. I loved it there mainly because there weren't any students so I didn't get any hassle. Alot of students are scared of living in anfield for some reason but I can safely say that in all the years I lived there, the only puke and piddle I had on my step was a gift from the footy fans not students! :unibrow:

Alot of students do stay and put money back into the city for many years of their working lives so its not all bad.

Students do get a hard time from some mindless goons. Only yesterday I was in TJ's and a woman caught sight of my Uni swipe card (I work there) so immediately assumed I was a 'f****ng student' and started ranting about how she only gets £60 a week from the government and its not fair that students get all the handouts !!!! I was too shocked to speak :shock:
I lived on far less than that when I WAS a student and now I work 50-60 hour weeks to make sure I don't have to do it again.

However, I woud be the first to agree that there are some students doing pointless courses that have way too much time and money on their hands :)

thanks for the reply Floyd.

What a horrible woman who spoke to you like that :disgust:

- - good job it wasn't me she spoke to like that - :angry: I'd have had my answer for her !

I know and have trained most of the 'Security' in your store. If you ever have a problem like that again > Ask for *Shadow* > they will know who you are talking about.

As for students ? What's wrong with them ? We have so many in this city that each family should be allocated a student to do housework and the chores for them. lol