Everton FC moves a step closer to Kirkby

May 4 2007

by Jennifer Thomas, Liverpool Daily Post Correspondent


Could Kirkby become Everton's new home?

EVERTON FC last night moved a step closer to a new stadium in Kirkby, after agreeing to progress to the next stage of its plans with partners Tesco and Knowsley council.

A major public consultation exercise is to be launched with Kirkby residents next month to seek their views on the development which would include a 55,000-seat stadium, a new Tesco superstore and a shopping complex.

The Liverpool Daily Post understands that Everton are likely to make a final decision on whether to go ahead with the move – subject to crucial fan approval in a ballot – within four to six weeks. All three partners issued a joint statement yesterday bringing fans and residents up to date with the progress of talks.

The statement said: “Knowsley council, Tesco and Everton Football Club have been involved in an exclusivity agreement for several months with a view to deciding whether to go ahead with propo- sals for a new retail centre and football stadium in Kirkby town cen

“At a recent high-level meeting, it was agreed to move to the next stage which is to start a major consultation process on the proposals for residents and businesses in Kirkby.”

It is hoped the proposed development would create around 2,000 jobs in Kirkby, around 1,750 of them permanent, boosting the town’s economy by up to £21.5m per year and significantly driving down unemployment rates in the area. Discussions have also been taking place with the owners of the existing town centre as Knowsley is hoping to consult on an all-encompassing town centre regeneration plan.

Everton chief executive Keith Wyness said last night: “We have been fully exploring our options for the future for some considerable time now.

“Talks with both Knowsley Borough Council and Tesco are continuing and we are encouraged by the progress which has been made.

“We hope to be in a position to deliver more news, and more information to our supporters in the not-too-distant future.”

While the club remained circumspect as it continues to weigh up the merits of the deal in the crucial negotiat- ions, the other two partners were rather more effusive.

Sheena Ramsey, chief executive of Knowsley council, said: “I am delighted that the next stage in realising this ambitious proposal is being reached. This is a major opportunity for Kirkby to be transformed into a premier leisure and retail destination for the region.

“The project could bring huge benefits.”

Council leader Ron Round added: “I am pleased with the progress that has been made to date. Although there is still a lot of work to be done, my priority now is to make sure that anyone with an interest is given an opportunity to tell us what they think should happen in Kirkby before any plans are submitted by the developer. I hope to start that consultation process in June.”

But the announcement drew critisism from the Keep Everton In Our City campaign, a group of fans who are opposed to the club leaving Liverpool.

Spokesman Dave Kelly said: “In spite of this announcement, the fight goes on, and we will be mobilising ourselves and upping the ante. We have cast iron insurance from Wyness and Kenwright that we will hold them to.

“They said a thorough consultation will be conducted and an independant body will sort out the votes and, if the result comes back as a no, then they will stick to that. The council have not once sat down and told us what this deal contains for both Everton and Kirkby.”

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http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/new-stadium-latest.html

I hope we don't miss the boat - AGAIN!!!

The move went a step closer today with the anouncement of a consultation exercise. I love that comment about the white flag and Liverpool having the city.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/6703429.stm

The move went a step closer today with the anouncement of a consultation exercise. I love that comment about the white flag and Liverpool having the city. The move outside of the Liverpool city line might benefit Everton. At least not being a Liverpool based team will rid us of the thug stigma, by association, that is associated with soccer fans from the Liverpool Football Club. We will be able to say with total honesty that we are not a Liverpool team. :)

I wouldn't go that far Sloyne old boy ha ha.

However, if the council don't feel we are a contributor to the city to the point where they don't mind losing us, then so be it.

I wouldn't go that far Sloyne old boy ha ha. It was a little TIC and a little, just a little, provocative. But you must admit that the fans of that partucular club have a terrible reputaion throughout the world and, justified or not, reflects very detrimentally on the image of Liverpool as a whole. Which (seriously) has just give me an idea for a new thread.

It was a little TIC and a little, just a little, provocative. But you must admit that the fans of that partucular club have a terrible reputaion throughout the world and, justified or not, reflects very detrimentally on the image of Liverpool as a whole. Which (seriously) has just give me an idea for a new thread.

A small minority of LFC fans give a bad name to the vast majority of decent fans 'of that particular club', sausage.

:)

A small minority of LFC fans give a bad name to the vast majority of decent fans 'of that particular club', sausage.

:)

Of course Sloyne knows that, but when you have got a big brush, a bucket of tar and lots of time on your hands you've got to find something to do.:rolleyes:

I wouldn't go that far Sloyne old boy ha ha.

However, if the council don't feel we are a contributor to the city to the point where they don't mind losing us, then so be it.

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Give Kirkby Town a few years Ged and yous may find yourselves second best up there too.:unibrow:

Since when was Everton second best in this city?

They are the best team here and dont give me all that weve won this and that.....i dont care.

and we dont care what the red side say, what the heck do we care:unibrow:

:handclap:Sooner the better.At least LFC fans dont walk out when they are
losing.
Ernie.

They did at goodison last season. none of them saw the last goal cause they left when the mighty blues went 2 up:PDT11

Since when was Everton second best in this city?


Since the day they kicked you out of Anfield and we moved in my friend. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

LFC can prattle all they like.

Everton is the peoples club and by far the best.

UP THE TOFFEE`S:):PDT_Piratz_26:

Everton is the peoples club and by far the best.



Methinks Gnomie has been reading the sportspage upside down for the last 20 years.:unibrow:

Me thinks not.

Peoples club we are and proud of it too:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Once a Blue, always a Blue
Once a s***e, you get your pic taken by Blues

http://h1.ripway.com/andalucia/irish.jpg


:PDT11

As my pa in law says, you wouldn't have seen these guys for dust back in the days when LFC were in the 2nd division for 8 years was it and they used to say the liver bird will fly when they ever win the F.A. cup. EFC were the school of science and Caterick won the league with 2 almost completely different sides. It just depends when you were born, you're either lucky or your not, look at Everton with Dean in the 20s and 30s all those pots. From 73 to 90 give LFC their dues but someone who has been supporting them now since they were say 10 in 1991, when you really start getting into footy for real will be 36 now and will never have seen them win the league - where a team is measured. On that score - were only 3 years apart (1987 and 1990) and many have come and gone.

Anyway, off out now.

:handclap:Sooner the better.At least LFC fans dont walk out when they are
losing.
Ernie. I remember a time when they didn't even walk in for the games. Remember, eleven years in the nether lands of English football. :) I was forced to take my two younger siblings to watch them at that time. Boy were they ever sh!te at that time but the admission to the pen was cheap.

A small minority of LFC fans give a bad name to the vast majority of decent fans 'of that particular club', sausage.

:) Which brings me to my idea for a new thread which I will post in the 'Alehouse' section of the forum. It is a genuine question and not meant to piss anyone off, though I know it will some.

A small minority of LFC fans give a bad name to the vast majority of decent fans 'of that particular club', sausage.:) Yes, I understand that and, if you have read my post, properly, would have noticed that I did acknowledge same. But surely every club has a thuggish element but, not every club are the cause, or at least blamed as the cause, of extreme violence leading to the death of rival fans. And you can't put all the criticism down to the reporters "hating Liverpool" and looking for any excuse to malign the club. At least some of the fault must be placed at the feet of the fans.

Here's a story for you. My brother-in-law and my nephew (aged 11) went to Athens to see the game. They arrived the night before and enjoyed a nice evening in the Greek capital. The next day they toured the city and had pre-arranged to meet friends at a bar restaurant before the game for the purpose of of giving the tickets, that he had been entrusted with for safe keeping, to these friends who had motored across Europe for the game. At the bar, which was overflowing with LFC supporters, he reunited the tickets with their owners and they all had a very enjoyable time. Before leaving the bar for the game my brother-in-law checked his pocket to make sure his and my nephews ticket was safe. They were not. His pocket had been slashed and the tickets removed. Needless to say, my nephew was devastated and not being able to watch his beloved Liverpool. The only none Scousers in the bar were the staff so, in all probabilty, it was a Scouser who stole these tickets. On their return to Liverpool my brother-in-law contacted the Roger Philips phone in on Radio Merseyside and related the story on air. A few tabloids picked up the story and got some mileage out of it. My brother-in-law and nephew are not, or were'nt, anti LFC, so you couldn't say that they were just out to besmirch the club and it's supporters reputation.

I remember a time when they didn't even walk in for the games. Remember, eleven years in the nether lands of English football. :)

That's what you remember is it ?:rolleyes:

Firstly it was eight seasons in Division 2 not eleven and secondly Liverpool averaged roughly the same amount of supporters per game over those 8 seasons that Everton have averaged over the last 8 seasons in the top flight.

With a memory like that it's no wonder you are shooting low scores on the golf course Sloyne.:unibrow:

Firstly it was eight seasons in Division 2 not eleven ELEVEN YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I never mentioned seasons.

ELEVEN YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I never mentioned seasons.

So you were including three seasons in Division 2 over 100 years ago ?

How strange.

And the time you "remembered" when Liverpool supporters "didn't bother to walk up" ?

When would that be that Sloyne ?

Your being unfair Sloyne by having a go at the character of the LFC fans. Argue over what goes on on the pitch yes but raking up all the tired calumnies about crime, theft, violence Heysel etc is unfair to LFC. No way are they like that and you know it! LFC is like a big family just like Everton, bawdy and loud yes but nowhere like the neo nazis of Italian clubs.

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Asda have announced their own Kirkby regeneration plans which could scupper Everton's plans.

Well, every little helps.

The feelings of Leahy and Kenwright as published in the local press today.

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/tm_headline=letters-reveal-feelings-of-everton-redevelopers%26method=full%26objectid=20312857%26s iteid=50061-name_page.html

Anyone wanting to see the details of the proposed new stadium can visit
the Kirkby council site. www.knowsley.gov.uk/consultation.
where all the plans are

As my pa in law says, you wouldn't have seen these guys for dust back in the days when LFC were in the 2nd division for 8 years was it and they used to say the liver bird will fly when they ever win the F.A. cup. EFC were the school of science and Caterick won the league with 2 almost completely different sides. It just depends when you were born, you're either lucky or your not, look at Everton with Dean in the 20s and 30s all those pots. From 73 to 90 give LFC their dues but someone who has been supporting them now since they were say 10 in 1991, when you really start getting into footy for real will be 36 now and will never have seen them win the league - where a team is measured. On that score - were only 3 years apart (1987 and 1990) and many have come and gone.

Anyway, off out now.

Wow being wrong just seems to run in the Family Ged.

Tell your 'pa in law' that Liverpools average attendance in our last season in the 2nd division was 42,000.

You can also tell him that Evertons average attendance this year is 36,000 you don't even match us when we were a second division team.

Times have changed. Your last season in div 2 obviously means you were pushing for promotion. The fact is yous were nothing back then, we'd won the more trophies (right up until about 1972 in fact) and they did used to say the Liver Bird would fly away if Liverpool won the f.a. cup such was it took you that long.

It's all about being around at the right time though isn't it. If you were a blue say in the 12 year period from 1927 to 1939 you'd have seen Everton win 7 trophies to Liverpool's none or is there an excuse for that too?

Times have changed. Your last season in div 2 obviously means you were pushing for promotion. The fact is yous were nothing back then, we'd won the more trophies (right up until about 1972 in fact) and they did used to say the Liver Bird would fly away if Liverpool won the f.a. cup such was it took you that long.

It's all about being around at the right time though isn't it. If you were a blue say in the 12 year period from 1927 to 1939 you'd have seen Everton win 7 trophies to Liverpool's none or is there an excuse for that too?

Here is Liverpools 3rd home Match of our last Season in the old 2nd Division, you are saying we were all aware of promotion 3 weeks in?

Liverpool 2 - 1 S****horpe
Game Date :: 09.09.1961
Competition :: 2nd Division Stadium :: Anfield
Spectators :: 46,837

Ohh and concerning your 1927-1939 seems you were born 50 years too late Ged.

No, not really, wouldn't have missed that 84-87 era for a big clock though some of my older contempories still say Catterick's 2 teams of 63 and 70 were the best.

Wasn't that the era when 76 thou would crush into Derby matches on the old terraces pfft. It is well known that attendances are greatly reduced these days because of seating, cost, live t.v. (one only had to look at the May day bank hol mon anfield game against Boro a few seasons ago that was on live, the sun looked lovely shining off those bright red seats)

I wonder what 14 years in the wilderness (as in efc 70-84) would do for lfc's attendances? It's easy to support the winning team as in the late 1970s band wagonners and I know it from school.

and they did used to say the Liver Bird would fly away if Liverpool won the f.a. cup such was it took you that long.



Oh I know they did Ged, but it wasn't for lack of trying, we got to the Finals but just couldn't do the finish.

Anyway we never won it until 1965 and now we have won it more times than you, but then again so have Newcastle and they haven't won anything since Noah was a lad.

So 1 f.a. cup more make Newcastle more successful? It's a bad comparison when their only league title was 1965.

Oh I know they did Ged, but it wasn't for lack of trying, we got to the Finals but just couldn't do the finish.

Anyway we never won it until 1965 and now we have won it more times than you, but then again so have Newcastle and they haven't won anything since Noah was a lad.

Everton, Blackburn and even Bolton fielded weakened teams in the last round of the FA cup, such is its importance these days. It is a competition for the reserves.

So 1 f.a. cup more make Newcastle more successful? It's a bad comparison when their only league title was 1965.

Don't you mean 1935?

So 1 f.a. cup more make Newcastle more successful? It's a bad comparison when their only league title was 1965.

Yes I said that because they're underachievers too. :unibrow:

Anyway enough banter ( although it has been fun and I do like our 'tennis matches' )

Can I ask you a serious question?

Where do you stand on the Kirkby move?

In all honesty if it was Liverpool going to kirby I wouldn't have any objection, because to me Kirkby is part of Liverpool anyway ( in heart if not geographically )

Both Anfield and Goodison were build originally outside the city boundaries, and no one was bothered back then, so why be bothered now?

Even Old Toilet is outside Manchester and in Salford, I doubt it bothers them, I honestly can't see what the fuss is about.

Wow being wrong just seems to run in the Family Ged.

Tell your 'pa in law' that Liverpools average attendance in our last season in the 2nd division was 42,000.


That was 1962. Everton packed 72,000 into GP in 1962.

That was 1962. Everton packed 72,000 into GP in 1962.

and all there sons now support Liverpool, and thats why you can only get 36,000 now...

Yes I said that because they're underachievers too.

Everton are the most successful club in history. They have more seasons in the top-flight that any other by a wide margin. Always in with the best. No 9 years in lower leagues playing the likes of Lincoln City.

Everton are the most successful club in history. They have more seasons in the top-flight that any other by a wide margin. Alway in with the best. No 9 years in lower leagues playing the likes of Lincoln City.


Thanks that made me laugh.

Everton, Blackburn and even Bolton fielded weakened teams in the last round of the FA cup, such is its importance these days. It is a competition for the reserves.


Yes I remember Oldham played reserves because of all the injuries thay had, but they still won didn't they?

Don't you mean 1935?

Yes of course ;)

Thanks that made me laugh.

It used to make me laugh too. As a kid I would run off to GP and watch Everton play Spurs and Greaves etc, et al, and the great Wolves too. My cousins would get the 27 to watch Liverpool play Lincoln City - "big game" they would say.

The great Busby Babes never played Liverpool. They played Everton and were tonked 5-2 at Old Trafford too.

Everton have never had the indignity to be 9 years playing dross. Always play the best - and tonk them too.

Asbo, I would love Everton to stay local but i'm not too concerned about a move to Kirkby either, as like you and Waterways, I also consider Kirkby to be Liverpool, try telling Phil Thompson or John Conteh it's not. For example Fazakerly hospital and the CoppleHouse pub are 3 minutes drive from the proposed site (if the lights are on green)

It used to make me laugh too. As a kid I would run off to GP and watch Everton play Spurs and Greaves etc, et al, and the great Wolves too. My cousins would get the 27 to watch Liverpool play Lincoln City - "big game" they would say.

The great Busby Babes never played Liverpool. They played Everton and were tonked 5-2 at Old Trafford too.

Everton have never had the indignity to be 9 years playing dross. Always play the best - and tonk them too.

Drowning men cling at Straws.

The biggest refereeing decision ( the one you don't moan about ) to effect Everton was the disallowed goal that kept you in the Prem.

Not many Evertonians mention that one though.

Which one was that Asbo?

If you were to list one off decisions instead of a whole seasons worth we could list....

Bryan Hamiltons disallowed goal 1977

Collina f.cking up in his very last game in charge

Hansen handling Heaths goalbound shot on the line - Milk cup final 84

Henchoz saving twice with his hands gainst Arsenal in the 'Owen' cup final.

The ref falling over at Anfield against Roma and missing the penalty incident

Poll disallowing the goal where Westerveld kicked it against the back of Hutchisons head and it rebounded in

Sammy Lee lying down prone in fronmt of the West Ham goalie in the League cup final and somehow 'wasn't' offside or interfering with play - what did the great BS say about 'interfering with play' - they wheel it out every now and again.

Some of the above, off the top of my head (not to mention the Clattenberg debacle this season) have gained you at least 3 trophies and possibly disallowed us a trophy so I don't think any liverpudlian could ever argue that ref decisions have not played a vital part in your history on a pro basis.

Everton are the most successful club in history. They have more seasons in the top-flight that any other by a wide margin. Always in with the best. No 9 years in lower leagues playing the likes of Lincoln City.

God are you still on about this Waterways ?

I suppose we've all got our own definitions of what success is, the likes of Everton think it's just being in the top flight............ours is actually winning it.

Say's it all really doesn't it ? :rolleyes:

I certainly don't think just taking part should be the goal but then for the last 21 years and 18 respectively, that's all both teams have done in the case of the title.

Tell your 'pa in law' that Liverpools average attendance in our last season in the 2nd division was 42,000.

You can also tell him that Evertons average attendance this year is 36,000 you don't even match us when we were a second division team.


Fact Everton's highest attendance for the old Division 2 is higher than Liverpool's highest ever attendance,take note.

Fact Everton's highest attendance for the old Division 2 is higher than Liverpool's highest ever attendance,take note.

What was it?

I only know you got under 8,000 in the 1930's and that was when Dixie was playing for you!

When one complete side of the ground was being rebuilt you mean?

Edit:

From toffeeweb - don't see any 8000 - do you mean a one off game, if so evidence please ?

BETWEEN THE WARS



1919-20 29,050 (7) 1929-30 32,989 (3)
1920-21 37,215 (3) 1930-31 26,039 (8)
1921-22 31,175 (7) 1931-32 35,451 (2) Football League
1922-23 30,905 (3) 1932-33 26,412 (6) suspended during
1923-24 29,185 (3) 1933-34 27,165 (7) during World War II
1924-25 26,030 (8) 1934-35 26,232 (6)
1925-26 26,876 (8) 1935-36 29,118 (7)
1926-27 31,416 (2) 1936-37 30,292 (7) 1946-47 40,854 (7)
1927-28 37,461 (2) 1937-38 30,324 (6) 1947-48 44,205 (6)
1928-29 29,513 (4) 1938-39 35,040 (3) 1948-49 45,138 (8)

When one complete side of the ground was being rebuilt you mean?

Oh that must be the side that held 60,000 people?

Your argument has just been blown outta the water Asbo - take a look above, you're fond of posting up lists and lists so please back the 8000 statement up then.

:unibrow:

Your argument has just been blown outta the water Asbo - take a look above, you're fond of posting up lists and lists so please back the 8000 statement up then.

:unibrow:

I don't tell lies Ged :) This is Everton records, you also hold the 'record' of having under 14,000 for a premiership match!

Attendances

* Highest League Attendance 78,299 v Liverpool, 18 September 1948
* Highest Premiership Attendance 40,552 v Liverpool, 11 December 2004
* Highest FA Cup Attendance 77,902 v Manchester United, FA Cup, 5th Round, 14 February 1953
* Highest League Cup Attendance 54,032 v Bolton, League Cup, Semi Final, 1st Leg, 18 January 1977
* Highest European Attendance 62,408 v Internazionale Milano, European Cup, 1st Round, 1st Leg, 18 September 1963

* Lowest League Attendance 7,802 v Sheffield Wednesday, 1 May 1934
* Lowest Premiership Attendance 13,667 v Southampton, 4 December 1993
* Lowest FA Cup Attendance 15,293 v Wimbledon, FA Cup, 3rd Round Replay, 12 January 1993
* Lowest League Cup Attendance 7,415 v Wrexham, League Cup, 2nd Round, 2nd Leg, 9 October 1990

Then that beats your lowest league attendance by 6,800 :unibrow::)

Then that beats your lowest league attendance by 6,800 then :unibrow::)

Not really mate because Liverpools pre WW1 of 1000 ( in the year 1895) isn't really counted, you seriously think Everton had more when they first moved?

Our 'real' lowest is 11,976

Edit, does your website list ground attendances pre 1900? Prove me wrong :)

Actually I'll give you that, because it is listed on our official website :D

Then that beats your lowest league attendance by 6,800 :unibrow::)

That season is weird because the derbys produced only 70,000 spectators adding up both matches


Everton 3 - 0 Liverpool
Game Date :: 13.10.1894
Competition :: 1st Division Stadium :: Goodison Park
Spectators :: 44,000

Liverpool 2 - 2 Everton
Game Date :: 17.11.1894
Competition :: 1st Division Stadium :: Anfield
Spectators :: 30,000

Forget that mate, thats the 84-85 season, the 1000 was when we were relegated the next year.

No, it's up to you to prove me wrong, both the published lowest attendances are there for all to see, Everton being the only team in the city were well supported back then and could even afford to move, leave Houlding and take the support with them and in fact had to move yet again from Priory Road for bigger premises adding stands etc etc.

Edit: Sorry, only just saw you were giving me that but there was a keyboard trailblaze in progress.

I'd say again though, 14 years in the wilderness and still decent support- even with Gordon 'Frankenstein 'Lee.

No, it's up to you to prove me wrong, both the published lowest attendances are there for all to see, Everton being the only team in the city were well supported back then and could even afford to move, leave Houlding and take the support with them and in fact had to move yet again from Priory Road for bigger premises adding stands etc etc.

Yep I did an add on mate, read it but your lowest is for the First Division and ours was in the 2nd, thats why we have it listed twice, the 12,000 is when we were in div one.

So as top flight teams you got less in the old division watching and less in the Prem too :p

No, it's up to you to prove me wrong, both the published lowest attendances are there for all to see, Everton being the only team in the city were well supported back then and could even afford to move, leave Houlding and take the support with them and in fact had to move yet again from Priory Road for bigger premises adding stands etc etc.

Edit: Sorry, only just saw you were giving me that but there was a keyboard trailblaze in progress.

I'd say again though, 14 years in the wilderness and still decent support- even with Gordon 'Frankenstein 'Lee.


Ah I remember the cushion throwing days, that was when my mates used to drag me to watch, they were real supporters and never threw cushions though, just booed a lot.

But that's not fair, we've had less to cheer about though oddly, toffeeweb points out that our highest average attendance season in the prem (which was under Moyes when Rooney burst on the scene) also resulted in our lowest league points tally ever.

I remember the night game against Coventry under Kendall when they threw them - as with Moyes, it proves that if you stick with your manager (if you do truly believe in him as a chairman), it may be well worth the wait.

So thought Martin Edwards too.

I remember the cushions being thrown in the 70's I think it was in the latter days of billy binghams time in charge

Thanks Ged and H_ASBO for giving me a good laugh at your row.

Thanks Ged and H_ASBO for giving me a good laugh at your row.

Your welcome SteH, its all meant in fun anyway, thats why I called it a tennis match ( I think I'm winning though :) )

Yep I did an add on mate, read it but your lowest is for the First Division and ours was in the 2nd, thats why we have it listed twice, the 12,000 is when we were in div one.

So as top flight teams you got less in the old division watching and less in the Prem too :p

I have it on good authority that Havant and Waterlooville have had lower attendances than both the Reds or Blues. :hug:

Havant and Waterlooville

Can you imagine how long the programme for the match will be ( 2 foot 5 inch ) with a name that long.

P.S get one, collectors items in years to come:PDT11

Food giants Tesco today revealed plans to join forces with Everton FC and move into the world of football with their own brand of mid-table finishers. Said Bert Krump, head of new product lines, ‘we wanted to provide a cheaper alternative for those football fans that prefer to enjoy their sport without the usual headaches of cup finals, championships, penalty shootouts, and victory parades. We want to help Everton FC continue to provide this valuable service for many more years to come.’ Going on to explain this new development in highstreet retail, Krump explained: ‘Most of our customers think the whole idea of winning takes too much time out of their daily routine and so, by providing ready-packed disappointment in every Tesco store, they can enjoy their football certain that need never have to buy new flags or scarves just to announce things like their team having become European Champions.’

Everton fans responded angrily to news that turnstyles will now be replaced by express checkouts and season tickets replaced by Tesco clubcards. ‘Gutted,’ said Jake Spinach, an Everton fan of twenty years. ‘On matchday, I queued up for an hour to get in the ground. Then they turned me away because I had more than ten items in my basket.’ A tearful Spinach explained: ‘I just got confused. I didn’t realise a cabbage was classed as an item of grocery. I’m more used to them playing defensive midfield.’ :unibrow:

Not a patch on your usual postings :)

'Unhelpful councillors to be ousted'

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/tm_headline=everton-fc-stadium-opponents-vow-to-stand-against-8220-unhelpful-8221-kirkby-councillors%26method=full%26objectid=20423737%26si teid=50061-name_page.html


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So... the trams look like they're going to be given central government backing.. even with the trams there still is not enough capacity to transport the fans away from Kirkby after a game within an hour.

So... the trams look like they're going to be given central government backing.. even with the trams there still is not enough capacity to transport the fans away from Kirkby after a game within an hour.

The trams appear a propaganda exercise to con the hard of thinking. They are a waste of expensive time.

I completely agree

I completely agree

Trundle, trundle, trundle, ding, ding, ding. We have in place a rapid rail transport system that only needs extending.

I don't disagree, I've said elsewhere that the £70million wasted on trams would have been enough to re-open the Waterloo/Victoria tunnel to the public. :)