A new thread for an old subject.

Picked this post card up at a boot fair. Can not tell what year it was, maybe you can. All I can say is:- it was before my time:)

Hi Phredd

Thanks for starting this thread, Phredd. Hey that rhymes! Both PhilipG and I are postcard collectors so no doubt we will have images of our cards to add before too long. At a guess, I would say the card you show is probably 1920's to 1930's based on the old Green Goddess trams on Mann Island. Perhaps Philip has a better idea of the date.

Chris

There have been a few posts on postcards:

1) Very good views. Most early postcards date from... (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?p=42716&highlight=LIVERPOOL+POST+CARDS#post42716)

Most early postcards date from 1902 when it became possible to write the message on the same side as the address.
So, if there is writing on the picture side of the card, and just...

2) Dating postcards. (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?p=42298&highlight=LIVERPOOL+POST+CARDS#post42298)

http://www.sunnyfield.co.uk/cards/liverpool1.jpg

MaritimeDigital Encyclopedia

http://www.ibiblio.org/maritime/photolibrary/albums/userpics/10001/normal_MDHCPC001web.jpg

Liverpool Station of London! Sorry Kev, but I find it, and I think that it´s very beauty! :PDT_Aliboronz_11:

http://www.tfsimon.com/england-liverpool-street-station.bmp.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/localhistory/journey/underground/queensway_tunnel/tunnel_postcards.jpg

http://merchantnavyofficers.com/topp/liverpoolliners/SaxoniadepartsLiverpool(artistic).jpg

http://www.daisyfield.com/postcards/hires/ENGLiverpoolSSOceanic1906.jpg

http://www.thepostcard.com/walt/pub/tuck/tu116.gif

http://www.camulos.com/postcards/stjohns01s.jpg

And more here: Link (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=1049)

Marie wrote:

I am not sure... help me!!

It´s said, Liverpool, New Scotia... Is it possible?

Yes, certainly, see here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool,_Nova_Scotia

Chris

I am not sure... help me!!

It´s said, Liverpool, New Scotia... Is it possible?



Good try Marie but Nova Scotia is a maritime province of Eastern Canada!:) There I woudn't need any visa!!

Marie wrote:

I am not sure... help me!!

It´s said, Liverpool, New Scotia... Is it possible?

Yes, certainly, see here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool,_Nova_Scotia

Chris

Thanks, I am edit it. And in the last photo saids: Colchester, but in the web saids Liverpool. I am confused. Sorry, but I am not know the UK geography!

http://www.ravenstamps.com/images/FFC/FFC019.jpg

http://www.picturesofgateshead.co.uk/postcards_trams1/ophn38t.jpg

More here: Link (http://images.statelibrary.tas.gov.au/Fullimage.asp?Letter=T&Subject=Trams+-+Tasmania+-+Hobart+-+History+-+Photographs&ID=au-7-0016-125413278)

Liverpool Street, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia, that last one, Marie.

Chris

Phredd, there's no vehicle traffic on your pic.(apart from the trams), so it must have been taken after the Mersey tunnel was opened--early thirties??

Hi Phredd

Thanks for starting this thread, Phredd. Hey that rhymes! Both PhilipG and I are postcard collectors so no doubt we will have images of our cards to add before too long. At a guess, I would say the card you show is probably 1920's to 1930's based on the old Green Goddess trams on Mann Island. Perhaps Philip has a better idea of the date.

Chris

Chris, That's the Pier Head, not Mann Island and the Green Goddesses (1930s) were noted for their streamlined design. :)
Only trams and later, busses would be seen here as all other traffic would use the Floating Roadway.

So, what other clues are there?
The Titanic Memorial, and the blob on the horizon which is probably Wallasey Town Hall - both 1916.
Apart from knowing about the Green Goddesses, I don't know much about trams (or even ships), so the photo is after 1916, but before 1930.

If the card is unused it may say (where the stamp should be) that the inland postage is 1/2d and foreign postage 1d. In that case such postcards are definitely no later than 1918.

It's always hard to put a precise year on postcards.
There is just one tram on this card of mine which places the date very close to 1957 when the last tram ran in Liverpool.

BTW, Kev, could we leave this thread with "Postcards" in the title, as the last one got merged with something else and faded away? :)

Chris, That's the Pier Head, not Mann Island and the Green Goddesses (1930s) were noted for their streamlined design. :)
Only trams and later, busses would be seen here as all other traffic would use the Floating Roadway.

So, what other clues are there?
The Titanic Memorial, and the blob on the horizon which is probably Wallasey Town Hall - both 1916.
Apart from knowing about the Green Goddesses, I don't know much about trams (or even ships), so the photo is after 1916, but before 1930.

If the card is unused it may say (where the stamp should be) that the inland postage is 1/2d and foreign postage 1d. In that case such postcards are definitely no later than 1918.

It's always hard to put a precise year on postcards.
There is just one tram on this card of mine which places the date very close to 1957 when the last tram ran in Liverpool.

BTW, Kev, could we leave this thread with "Postcards" in the title, as the last one got merged with something else and faded away? :)

Hi Philip

Thanks for your informed opinion on the possible date of the postcard, Philip.

I always thought that "Mann Island" and the "Pier Head" were one and the same but I am open to being corrected and to learn the difference. Maybe we need another thread on it. :)

I also thought that the green trams in general were known as "Green Goddesses" so I am pleased to learn that, as you indicate, the name denoted a specific streamlined design of the 1930s.

Also not sure what you are asking that we do re the title of the thread. Could you clarify? I believe someone, possibly you but I am not sure, had started an earlier thread on old postcards but I think it might have developed into a general views of Liverpool thread. I do think there is value on having a thread just devoted to postcard views.

All the best

Chris

I always thought that "Mann Island" and the "Pier Head" were one and the same but I am open to being corrected and to learn the difference. Hi Chris, did you know that the original name of that area called Mann Island was "Nova Scotia"? This was due to the the area being used to store timber from Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, Canada. The timber was for the building of ships at the numerous shipbuilders on the Liverpool side of the Mersey. Later the land was needed for the extension of the docks and was to valuable for ship building.

Also and later, ships were built in Canada and sailed in ballast to Liverpool and sold to the various shipping companies in Liverpool. The famouse clippership Marco Polo of the Blackball Line was one such ship.

Mann Island is the road running down the side of the Port of Liverpool Building (former Mersey Docks and Harbour Board Building). It's the continuation of James Street.
George's Pier Head runs in front of the Three Graces, named after George's Dock on which they were built.
Nova Scotia and Irwell Street were parallel roads that ran into Mann Island from the Canning Dock area.
Only Irwell Street remains.
Mann Island was named after somebody called Mann, and Island because at one time it could only be reached by going over bridges.

Regarding the title of this thread.
"Postcards" should be kept in the name, simply so we know where to post postcards.

Mann Island is the road running down the side of the Port of Liverpool Building (former Mersey Docks and Harbour Board Building). It's the continuation of James Street etc.. Thanks Phil.

Mann Island is the road running down the side of the Port of Liverpool Building (former Mersey Docks and Harbour Board Building). It's the continuation of James Street.
George's Pier Head runs in front of the Three Graces, named after George's Dock on which they were built.
Nova Scotia and Irwell Street were parallel roads that ran into Mann Island from the Canning Dock area.
Only Irwell Street remains.
Mann Island was named after somebody called Mann, and Island because at one time it could only be reached by going over bridges.

Regarding the title of this thread.
"Postcards" should be kept in the name, simply so we know where to post postcards.

Great information. Thank you, Philip. I also agree with you that the word "Postcards" should be kept in the name, just as you say, so we know where to post postcards. :handclap:

Chris

This is thought to be the earliest, but if you know different, please post.
It's also considered to be a quite accurate view of the Castle.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/210/465970947_94e4db0990_o.jpg

Newsham Park bandstand, circa 1910

http://www.liv.ac.uk/images/newsroom/press_releases/2007/pc-newshambandstand2.jpg

St John's Gardens, circa 1900-1920

http://www.liv.ac.uk/images/newsroom/press_releases/2007/stjohns2-mine146.jpg

Stanley Park Lake, circa 1910

http://www.liv.ac.uk/images/newsroom/press_releases/2007/pc-stanleylake3.jpg

Maravilloso Marie :handclap:
aquellos parques son bastante cerca de mi casa. :)


Newsham & Stanley are my local parks.

Maravilloso Marie :handclap:
aquellos parques son bastante cerca de mi casa. :)


Newsham & Stanley are my local parks.

I found this postcard in the web of the University. I think that its a projetc about olds areas, but I am not sure.

If Liverpool in picture postcards is your thing then look no further than Springy's (Ken) fantastic collection on here. All 16 pages just have to be viewed. http://www.thescousehouse.net/index.php?showtopic=9880&st=0

1870 Lime Street

Source E-bay :PDT_Piratz_26:

2670

http://www.sunnyfield.co.uk/cards/liverpool1.jpg

Hi Marie- These are wonderful images that I've not seen before. Any chance of posting them larger?

I agree absolutely about Springy's postcard collection, never seen anything like it. Just been on there for about two hours!