Just wondered why no one was talking about the slightly further afield parts of liverpool like Crosby etc. I grew up in Crosby and it is every bit as much a part of liverpool as Toxteth and Garston etc.

I think Crosby is great though, cus we are so on the edge of the city it has almost villagey feel to the place. Can't walk down a street without meeting someone you know.

Just wondered why no one was talking about the slightly further afield parts of liverpool like Crosby etc. I grew up in Crosby and it is every bit as much a part of liverpool as Toxteth and Garston etc.

I think Crosby is great though, cus we are so on the edge of the city it has almost villagey feel to the place. Can't walk down a street without meeting someone you know.

20 odd years ago, I made a point of visiting all the sites of former cinemas in Liverpool and taking photos.
The Regent in Crosby, then a bingo hall, was the only place where somebody came out and objected to me taking photos (Silly man!).
It's now a sports hall for a local school.

Welcome to the forum, MissD. :)

Hello Miss D

My late Auntie Mary used to live at 28 Water Street in Thornton so I have an interest in your neck of the woods. I have photographed the windmill tower on Moor Lane in Great Crosby in the past as well. Actually a search on "Crosby" (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/search.php?searchid=64360) does turn up posts where Crosby has been discussed so follow that link and add to the threads as you see fit.

Chris

http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3852

I know I did look but I was a bit miffed that we weren't in the Urban Districts seeing as that is what we are ^_^''

What tends to happen on the forum is that people start threads about the area they were born in or currently living in.
There are still lots more districts not covered yet, or some existing threads have very little input on them.

I'd like to see more on Crosby too - it's a lovely area.

Just wondered why no one was talking about the slightly further afield parts of liverpool like Crosby etc. I grew up in Crosby and it is every bit as much a part of liverpool as Toxteth and Garston etc.

I think Crosby is great though, cus we are so on the edge of the city it has almost villagey feel to the place. Can't walk down a street without meeting someone you know.

Good point but isn't Crosby in Sefton. Should we also discuss Southport, St Helens etc on this list

Good point but isn't Crosby in Sefton. Should we also discuss Southport, St Helens etc on this list

I don't see why not.
It's all Merseyside, and they're our neighbours.
If any threads aren't popular, they'll just fade away, anyway.

Photies of the Wirral and in fact Gormley's men in Sefton have appeared before so why not?

If its Merseyside, bring it on! Thanks MissD for shouting out your part of the wider area.

I was the same with no mention of Bootle, which Kev has since added :) and also I was unsure where to post when I wanted some info on Litherland park.

I guess it would come to a point where you'd have to list every area of Merseyside to keep everyone happy.

Since it's not quite Liverpool, can we just add threads for Sefton and Wirral within Urban districts that can then be used in future. I know they're both big area's compared with some of the others, but they might not get used that much.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm going on lol.

Allo MissD :)

I also changed the description which now reads:

The place to discuss the urban districts and areas of Liverpool and Merseyside. Aigburth, Allerton, Anfield, Belle Vale, Bootle, etc....

Well technically sefton is an area of liverpool. It isn't seen in its own right by the government or the people who make maps. According to them most of the time we don't exist in sefton, we are just a part of liverpool so it is only fair.

Southport shouldn't be included in Merseyside...they want to be in Lancashire and have tried numerous times to be changed back into a part of Lancashire but they have been refused every time.

Well technically sefton is an area of liverpool. It isn't seen in its own right by the government or the people who make maps. According to them most of the time we don't exist in sefton, we are just a part of liverpool so it is only fair.

Southport shouldn't be included in Merseyside...they want to be in Lancashire and have tried numerous times to be changed back into a part of Lancashire but they have been refused every time.

I used to live in Southport, but moved to Liverpool.
This forum should include all Merseyside, but in reality I don't think places like Southport will feature too much as it has its own forum, which, incidently, mentions Liverpool from time to time.
Yes, they do have a clique that signs themselves Southport, Lancashire, but lots of Scousers enjoyed/enjoy day-trips to Southport, and some Southport people shop in Liverpool.

Phil. Some great Art Deco architecture in So'wey including that big Mecca building which was a cinema by the BM stores and the crown pub in the next street. The McDonald's on the corner of Scarisbrick new road is an ex 30s Co-op building too.

Well technically sefton is an area of liverpool. It isn't seen in its own right by the government or the people who make maps. According to them most of the time we don't exist in sefton, we are just a part of liverpool so it is only fair.

Southport shouldn't be included in Merseyside...they want to be in Lancashire and have tried numerous times to be changed back into a part of Lancashire but they have been refused every time.

I know people who live in Aigburth who still use Lancashire in their address. I guess it takes all sorts.

Hi there MissDemeanor _ I like Crosby... got Family there and enjoy my nights out there.... either at Crosby Village or South Road (either will do) Ive had a few really good nights out there. :handclap: for Crosby :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

I used to spend most of my summer holidays as a kid in Waterloo so I have a soft spot for the area. It does seem to be picking up a bit after quite a few years of decline. Lots of little restaurants etc popping up

We did too. :)

We spent lots of summer days at Crosby.

Yeah Crosby and waterloo are that kind of area. It has always been a place that people seemed to want to bring their kids up in but everyone else didn't seem to think they were worth a visit.

Is a lovely place though, plus we have a fantastic cinema which is run by the community so it is cheaper and cosier. Plus, the building the cinema is in is a fantastic example of art deco architecture, especially if your intrested in art deco theatres.

I agree it should be about all merseyside. I guess where the boarders of liverpool are in my mind is the majority of merseyside.

I draw liverpool into two categories really, scouseland and not scouseland. Not scouseland is where the 'plastic scousers' are from, like myself.

Crosby is so nice. I've been to Crosby beach a lot this year.Anthony Gormley's "Another place" is scary at night! Took a brilliant picture.Not sure if I consider Crosby People Scousers but it is in Merseyside so guess it's up to the people to decide.

I think of Crosby, Kirkby, Huyton and Speke as scouseland even though they may be governed by Sefton and Knowsley councils or whatever. John Conteh and Steven Gerrard are as scouse as anyone and two of the Beatles lived in Speke. I wouldn't stretch it any further than that though to say Hightown, Prescot, St. Helens or Hale - now they are woolybacks :)

Fully agree with that Ged.


Paul Mac was born in Walton hozzy tho' - as I'm sure you will know - and his mum & dad were living off Priory rd, Anfield at the time - - so Paul originally hails from Liverpool and not Knowsley or any other area. :002: :D

They lived at a couple of addresses in Speke after moving a few times before that.
The family lived in Thomas White gdns at one point. (they did move around a lot didn't they !)

Yes Lindy. 10 Sunbury Rd and also evacuated over the water during the war when he was a baby, they did move around a lot as Mrs Mc was a midwife and of course George was originally from Arnold Grove in Wavertree why is why of course I made a point of saying they lived in Speke and not born there.

Many Scottie Roaders were moved to Kirkby due to the building of the Kingsway Tunnel, they sound as and are as scouse as us. There was an interesting Radio Merseyside programme about all the newtowns including Skem and did they work out how they were meant to.

If we were to class Bootle, Litherland and Waterloo as 'not Liverpool', the north end of the city would end at Kirkdale and Walton.

I think of Crosby, Kirkby, Huyton and Speke as scouseland even though they may be governed by Sefton and Knowsley councils or whatever. John Conteh and Steven Gerrard are as scouse as anyone and two of the Beatles lived in Speke. I wouldn't stretch it any further than that though to say Hightown, Prescot, St. Helens or Hale - now they are woolybacks :)

Speke is actually inside the city limits. All the rest are not. To all intents all are a part of Liverpool except St Helens, which is clearly Lancashire in culture with few connections to the adjacent city

Liverpool should be made a city sate as is Hamburg. Draw a line from Ellesmere Port to Neston on the Wirral all north of it incorporate into Liverpool. From Speke to Formby Point and out to Kirkby/Prescot and incorporate all of a that. That should all be Liverpool.

Yes. It's amazing that the new Everton ground problem to the keep Everton in the city group is that it's 4 miles up the road and so out of the boundary, yet Speke is 6 or 7 miles up the road and is still within.

Everton have had four homes....

- When Everton first played on Stanley Park it was outside the city boundary.
- When Everton first played at Priory Road it was outside the city boundary.
- When Everton first played at Anfield it was outside the city boundary.
- When Everton first played at Goodison Park it was outside the city boundary.
- When Everton play in Kirkby it will be outside the city boundary.

The city always followed Everton.

Knowsley is an artificial council rimming Liverpool and should be incorporated into Liverpool. This came about as Liverpool Council refused to incorporate Kirkby and Halewood in the city as the Boundaries Commission suggested. Kirkby is in all intents a part of Liverpool, as is Bootle, Birkenhead, Wallasey, etc. They are in the same socio-economic area as big Liverpool. There is talk of extending Liverpool to incorporate Knowsley and parts of Sefton. So, the city may follow Everton once again.

The protracted stadium move, now over 10 years has eaten at the club - this results from poor club management. From the biggest in the UK, the Mersey Millionaires, to second tier. There are no Arabs, Americans or Russians waiting with a pot of gold ready to save Everton - Everton have a poor image. If EFC stay at Goodison Park, be prepared for Championship League football.

EFC need a new stadium in a better location than GP, that is clear. I would like the stadium to be around Commercial Rd. The adjacent Waterloo rail tunnel could be re-used and station opened up underground. If not then I will not cry about at Kirkby at all. My reservation is the cheap and nasty design for the Kirkby stadium - the corners are not even used. The sweeping bowl and roof creates atmosphere in modern stadia. Totally unacceptable.

Below Everton at Anfield on probably the only map showing them there, complete with stands, and clearly outside the city boundary which ran through the current Kop end end. Enlarge the picture and zoom in.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/watercity/Map-anfield1889.jpg

Yes. It's amazing that the new Everton ground problem to the keep Everton in the city group is that it's 4 miles up the road and so out of the boundary, yet Speke is 6 or 7 miles up the road and is still within.

That pressure group has a clear ulterior motive to keep Everton at Goodison Park, not just inside the city limits. I don't trust them.

I grew up in Crosby too. We moved to Moorgate Avenue (between Endbutt Lane and the Northern Road) when I was about 7 from Bootle. This would have been around 1960. It was a magical place to grow up all right, halfway between the city and the country. You could get the L2 or L8 to Skelhorne Street bus station or wander off into Little Crosby village, Ince and S******y Woods, Fort Crosby... Or jump a train to Formby or Southport, all within easy reach. And of course the beach was just down the road, not to mention Crosby Baths- I queued up to get in there on the day it opened.

http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3852

I went to Forefield Lane infant and juniors then Waterloo Grammar (hated it there).
Later used to go to St Faith's youth club opposite Merchant Taylor's. Used to buy my first ciggies in the old-fashioned tobacconists opposite.
We used to catch tadpoles and minnows at a pond we called, for some reason, 'the green railings' at the bottom of Nazeby Avenue. I think it's the Rimrose Valley nature reserve now.
Had my first pint in the Raven in South Road the day after my 15th birthday. Had my first snog on the beach near the baths. My first joint too (not at the same time)- or so I thought. The bloke who sold it to us told me years later it was the yellow ochre from his sister's watercolour box!
Bought my first records from a place in South Road. Queued up to see 'Summer Holiday' at the Regent...
Ah, memories... more anon and some photos too when I work out how to post them..

Jeez, just noticed your stupid censorship device has obliterated S n i g g e r y W o o d s. Where's the sense in that?

The censorship was due to the 2nd - 7th letters in your 1st word which spells out another word which cannot be used.

Oh right? Good grief.

S n i g g e r y Woods. 1943 by Ted McIlvenna

I remember S n i g g e r y Woods where adventure beckoned with wooden thumb. To me and you and everyone.
To cross the bridge over the brook, it was so exciting to dare to take a closer look.
There to find so magically, this place of nature's mystery,
Cheetah the chimp, Tarzan and Jane, would swing through the trees and play your game.
Mowgli and friends from the Jungle Book. They all played with me and you.
Peter Pan,Wendy lost boys too, Old Captain Hook and all his Crew.
I remember them all in days so true.
Now its just sad for S n i g g e r y Woods, that beautiful magic now has gone.
No mystical place for the young to roam. Not for children on their own!
But S n i g g e r y is still S n i g g e r y, its just old and tired and lost its trust, to vandalism and human lust.
Some still love you S n i g g e r y Woods, to those you gave all that's good. Remember us young and never grown!
And S n i g g e r y good friend, You are never alone!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/2299658861_91789631b5_o.jpg
Took this yesterday as my grandson and I were kicking a tennis ball on the beach from Hall Road, all the way to Crosby.

Lovely :)

dinky little abandoned cottage just off Liverpool Rd
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/Picture1223.jpg

Where is the cottage more precisely? It's not down the side of the old Regent by any chance, on the lane leading into Coronation Park? Used to be immaculate when i was a kid.

Where is the cottage more precisely? It's not down the side of the old Regent by any chance, on the lane leading into Coronation Park? Used to be immaculate when i was a kid.

aye that's the one. shame it's been let go. haven't seen a pic in any of my local history books of what it used to look like.

More memories of Crosby/Waterloo.
The bottom of South Road: Shops selling beach balls, buckets & spades and candy floss- the last reminders of when the place had tried to become a seaside resort, and before the coming of the horrible concrete marina affair.
The beach further along, where we later went at lunchtimes when I was at Waterloo Grammar school, was a wonderful area of sand dunes and concrete 'dragon's teeth' wartime defences until it was all swept away for the Seaforth Docks.
The shabby-genteel houses along Marine Terrace. Capt Smith lived here and would have retired here if he hadn't had his mishap with the Titanic. Lovely Mandy who I once went out with but blew it, she lived here too. I thought her house was very flash and her single mother very glam.
The model shop at the bottom of South Road. I bought my Airfix kits there sometimes- and Monogram ones very occasionally if a relative had been particularly generous. Mostly, though, I purchased these, as well as Britain's Ltd plastic figures (that you could take apart!) from Myerscough's in Crown Buildings, Crosby Village.
Down there too were shops I'd be sent on errands- Crow's, for example, the old fashioned grocer's with its big red coffee grinder and bacon slicer in the window. Bobby Moore's on Moor Lane, which was the only shop in the area that opened on a Sunday afternoon. They had tanner-in-the-slot dispensing machines long before I remember seeing them anywhere else- and a chip machine! Never seen anywhere else before or since.
There was a row of ancient thatched cottages there and the old police station- looking very similar to to one in Lark Lane, which is still with us- where I was marched off to by my dad when I was caught trying to 'borrow' a neighbour's moped. Got a right bollocking from the sargeant but eventually let off to face the music at home...
Behind our house in Moorgate Avenue was Musker Street, then a relic of the area's agricultural past. The houses there still had pig stys in the yards and outdoor privies. There were chickens and pigeon coops in many of the long front gardens. At the end of the row was an old, larger house inhabited by an ancient crone who we referred to as 'the witch' and who terrified us. Nontheless, her extensive garden- long gone to rack and ruin- was a favourite playground of ours, all the time keeping an eye out in case the witch got you. We must have been a terrible torment to her.
i was often sent over to one of the cottages behind to buy potatoes for another aged biddy, Mrs Lycett. Her son always seemed to standing in his vest at the kitchen sink behind her, shaving and singing. He had an excellent voice and was always singing, you could hear it all around from our house.
Ken's barber shop on Liverpool Road, round the corner from Endbutt Lane. ver warm in there of a winter evening, big tank of tropical fish, Diddy David Hamilton on the Light programme, me sitting on a plank with a cloth around me and a basin on my head...
Sweet shops: closest was Fisher's on the corner of Moorgate and Endbutt Lane. Used to buy loosies there too later. The posh one on the corner of Enbutt Lane and Liverpool Road, opposite the Regent Cinema. This was run by a lady with an American accent, which we thought very flash. Woodsie's on Brownmoor Lane. Used to buy my 'Mars Attacks' cards from there. Our headmaster banned them so they were avidly collected and swapped of course. Had the set once- wish I still did! This was the nearest to our school in Forefield Lane, from which you had to walk through an area of woodland to get to it. I wish I could remember what it was called. it had an excellent pond right next to the sweet shop where we caught tiddlers and from where we brought home frogspawn. All gone and built over now, of course.
More anon...

Re that old cottage. I last photographed it 20-odd years ago and have the neg somewhere still. Will stick it on here when I can. The place was still in good nick then.
We used to pass it often as kids heading for the park, the Regent or Crosby Baths. The old lady living there was always telling us off for being noisy. The cottage was very tidy then and had a fine rose garden out the front. The lane in front- which the A-Z tells me is called Claremont Road, though I didn't know it at the time- wasn't tarmacked then, as it appears now to be in your picture, just a rough surface full of potholes that was waterlogged in the winter and dusty in the summer.
I imagine the cottage was originally built for a gardener/porter/whatever at the girl's school behind. Its back door gives access to the grounds beyond the high wall it's built against.
Haven't been for a mooch around there in years, must get the camera there soon..

http://www.bwpics.co.uk/gallery/liverpoolpics/coronationpark.jpg

Coronation Park, Crosby 1983

No.13 Beach Lawn and the one time home of White Star shipping line founder - Thomas Henry Ismay.

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The detailing in the stained glass window and the head carving.

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The blue plaque


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Beach Lawn looking North to its end.


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Beach lawn looking north from Bulcher Street.

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Beach Lawn looking South from the Ismay House.

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Adelaide Terrace is the continuation of Beach Lawn and these candy striped houses in subtle pastel shades always somehow remind me of a nougat bar or a block of Neapolitan ice cream.

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9242/adelaideterracecandystryg8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Marine Crescent is where you turn into when going right at the very bottom of South Road. These rows have individually styles houses, some with cast iron balconies with glass canopies.

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Another style, very symetrical this one.

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Marine Crescent leads to Adelaide Terrace and in turn Beach Lawn. This is some of the rest of the row.

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Crosby Marina from the bottom of South Road.

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Crosby Radar and one of the windmills from the Crescent.

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Beach Lawn park and Crosby sand dunes beyond.

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The Victorian canopied stairwell leading down to Waterloo railway line on South Road.

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Heading back towards the city and Waterloo war memorial and lamps on the junction of Crosby road North and Great George's Road.

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Sandwiched between 1930s and 1960s housing is the grand Riverslie residential care home not far from Seaforth Docks on Crosby Road South.

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Thanks Ged. Nice pics. :PDT11

Hear hear. Very evocative for me as I used to knock around there a lot as a kid. The houses look to be in better nick now than they were back then.
I knew about Capt Smith living along there but Ismay was a new one on me. Fascinating.

I found this interesting website, full of Crosby memories-

http://crosbymemories.merseyblogs.co.uk/

those houses are lovely with the sun shining on them aren't they? I was that way meself today and took a similar one of the radar station and windmill. took it before it disappears.

boss photos young man :PDT_Piratz_26:

Good photos. Apparently Cunard ships used to either sound their horns or dip their flags (can't remember which) when they passed the boss' house.

great photies! there is a lovely little yellow cottage close by the entrance to the marina i think its in bath street. i love the pastel shades of those houses i could just eat them! how lucky those ppl are to live there.what a view... btw whereabout is the ismay house waterloo or blundellsands?

Great photos, Ged.
I was there last week, and was fascinated by a building behind the Ismay House.
Turns out it was the Ismay's Coach House.

There's a set of mine on flickr:
"A Walk from Waterloo to Great Crosby".
Warning: There's over 100 photos.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/44435674@N00/sets/72157604601038430/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2130/2418288733_b29abea370_o.jpg

I'll look forward to taking that walk on your flickr site Philip knowing how good your photos are.

Shoequeen, the area is actually called Brighton le sands but i'd say its on the Crosby side of Mariners Road rather than the Blundellsands/burbo bank side.

All those areas look so close in my A-Z.

Good pics Ged, I hope you emptied the sand out of your shoes before you went home. I spend a lot of time with my sidekick in the area,we get the train
to Hall Rd then walk along the beach or promenade ,depending on the tide,to Waterloo. I call those houses Merseyside`s Balamory.

I like it along there GD - as grand as anything Cressington or Grassendale has to offer with a far better view imho.

There's a great row of houses along burbo bank road too, a pyramid shaped house of glass with a steep underground drive to a basement garage. Sometimes go down to the coastguards to sit off in the summer.

I noticed one of the houses near Ismay's up for sale - or so I thought. Took a peep on the estate agents website but it's only a flat.


New Instruction


Beach Lawn, Flat F
Waterloo
2 Bedroom Flat/Apartment
£154,950


Full details
Local map
Edwards & Brazier are delighted to offer 'For Sale' this second floor apartment situated at the rear of a prestigious Grade II Listed Regency Style Victorian Terrace within the Waterloo Conservation Area. The front approach to the property has panoramic views over Marine Gardens, Liverpool Estuary and The Welsh Hills. The accommodation briefly comprises of communal vestibule, communal hallway, private entrance door, hallway, lounge, fully fitted kitchen, two bedrooms, luxury bathroom, outside to the rear, communal rear garden, designated parking. To the front communal garden and entrance.
(reference: ELB1001070)

Pics here:


http://housescape.org.uk/cgi-bin/search.pl?elb1&imagesize=120,fo=s,fof=iarea,fof=ikeyword&5


2nd from bottom.....

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Good point but isn't Crosby in Sefton. Should we also discuss Southport, St Helens etc on this list

well crosby is actually in liverpool (though it comes under sefton council) southport & st.helens are in merseyside but not liverpool. my youngest son goes to school in southport and my mums family are from st.helens so i know both places quite well. but as neither is in liverpool they shouldn't be on this list specifically. they are both distinct areas and don't need to be included on a discussion site for liverpool and & i'm sure the people from there would agree!

i live in crosby now (its only L23 after all. even formby is in liverpool. i think its L36?) its funny though before i moved here the only thing i knew about crosby was the swimming baths & it was quiet! i had friends from crosby who i used to tease about being from the sticks (joking!) but now i'm here i really really love it. i can walk to the beach in 20 mins & when i go to sainsburys its in the 'village' (which i love to say as it sounds so quaint). now one of my very close friends who was born in crosby lives in waterloo (she owns/runs a hotel there) so now i can still tease her that i now live in the 'posher' part!

but then every area has its charm. i lived in kirkdale for 7 yrs and i loved it. i lived in a victorian terrace house that was well over a 100 yrs old and it has stayed my favourite home. (barring my future lotto win & a large 7 bed in blundellsands of course!) back then i could be in town in 20 mins... a taxi there costs me a lot more now more now i can tell you! i am still very close friends with my old neighbour from kirkdale. she moved to waterloo before i moved to crosby i had just spent 7 yrs in yorkshire so it was quite a coincidence. she lives in a high rise by the marina & has a fabulous view!!

oh i know where brighton le sands is. its what i call the 'inbetween bit' between crosby baths and the marina entrance. i usually see those houses from the promenade as i walk up from the marina to crosby baths way. i'll have to take a different route next time i'm down there & walk by them.

i really like it by burbo too its a lot quieter than the beach at the marina. plus you have the grass too for flying kites on. but i have noticed that though there are lots of benches about on burbo bank there are hardly any at the marina end of the prom. i think there is only one right by the radar tower. though they have put two nice wooden stages with benches on across the larger of the two lakes at the marina. (or may be they have been there for a while for all i know as i have been living away from the city for a few years. so i'm just playing catch up...don't even get me started on the city centre i feel like a tourist when i go there & get lost. everything has changed!)

There's a couple of pages on Crosby and Waterloo in the latest edition of the free magazine "liverpool.com".

For those not living in the city, you can view the magazine on-line at:
www.liverpool.com

Julie

theres a lovely little park in waterloo thats easy to miss. its just as you turn left to go down to the car park (by the radar tower end) at the marina, down cambridge road off crosby road south. i read the plaque there for it the other week and it made for interesting reading. the old buildings are the gatehouse (i think) of what would have been a house that a merchant who lived in everton (village...C19th) had started to build but he died before its completion. he had wanted to build a house there as when he looked across from everton brow - down by the sea in seaforth looked look such a pretty spot (imagine that! i assume that was back when it was still farm land.)

http://www.liverpool2007.org.uk/pottersbarn/pottersbarn.htm

There's a set of mine on flickr:
"A Walk from Waterloo to Great Crosby".
http://www.flickr.com/photos/44435674@N00/sets/72157604601038430/

Thanks very much for these Philip. I had a fine old time following your route and remembering many of these places as they were when I grew up round there.
The Carnegie Library- where I fell in love with reading and was a regular throughout my childhood. I remember the smell of the place- not unpleasant but uniquely its own- very clearly.
Alexandria Park too- but we were always getting ear ache from the parkie there and preferred nearby Coronation Park and its boating lake.
Interesting to see that Central Buildings is for the chop. Myerscough's model shop was there, where I used to buy my Airfix kits and Britain's models. Is Crown Buildings also going or will it stay as it is? I hope so. Very handsome. I notice that the old George is shown as a Yates'. Is that still the case? They're closing 90 of their branches, including our local one here in Chester. Yates' were once an honourable institution that performed the well-intentioned function of serving inexpensive, but decent quality wine to those who would otherwise have fetched up drinking unspeakable rotgut, it ended up going full circle serving cheap rotgut to an unspeakable clientele.
Moor Lane looks much as it did. Did I hear that Central Buildings' developer, Maghull, have got their hands on it too? it would be sad indeed to see the end of those distinctive 1930s white-tiled shop fronts.
Much of 'The Village' has changed radically; gone is the old street plan, the police station and thatched cottages, obliterated by Sainsbury's.
I feel inspired to copy your Waterloo to Crosby photographic walk one of these days, but taking a different route...

Thanks very much for these Philip. I had a fine old time following your route and remembering many of these places as they were when I grew up round there.
The Carnegie Library- where I fell in love with reading and was a regular throughout my childhood. I remember the smell of the place- not unpleasant but uniquely its own- very clearly.
Alexandria Park too- but we were always getting ear ache from the parkie there and preferred nearby Coronation Park and its boating lake.
Interesting to see that Central Buildings is for the chop. Myerscough's model shop was there, where I used to buy my Airfix kits and Britain's models. Is Crown Buildings also going or will it stay as it is? I hope so. Very handsome. I notice that the old George is shown as a Yates'. Is that still the case? They're closing 90 of their branches, including our local one here in Chester. Yates' were once an honourable institution that performed the well-intentioned function of serving inexpensive, but decent quality wine to those who would otherwise have fetched up drinking unspeakable rotgut, it ended up going full circle serving cheap rotgut to an unspeakable clientele.
Moor Lane looks much as it did. Did I hear that Central Buildings' developer, Maghull, have got their hands on it too? it would be sad indeed to see the end of those distinctive 1930s white-tiled shop fronts.
Much of 'The Village' has changed radically; gone is the old street plan, the police station and thatched cottages, obliterated by Sainsbury's.
I feel inspired to copy your Waterloo to Crosby photographic walk one of these days, but taking a different route...

Thank you.
To be honest, I did have a "Guide" with me.
A local person.
After Waterloo it was all a little unfamiliar to me.
Crown Buildings will remain.
When you approach Great Crosby from Coronation Road, it's rather depressing to see the "wilderness" to the left.
I find open car parks so depressing.
I don't know if anything's going to happen to Yates's (the George), or Moor Lane.
Nearly all the shops in Moor Lane are still trading.

theres a lovely little park in waterloo thats easy to miss. its just as you turn left to go down to the car park (by the radar tower end) at the marina, down cambridge road off crosby road south. i read the plaque there for it the other week and it made for interesting reading. the old buildings are the gatehouse (i think) of what would have been a house that a merchant who lived in everton (village...C19th) had started to build but he died before its completion. he had wanted to build a house there as when he looked across from everton brow - down by the sea in seaforth looked look such a pretty spot (imagine that! i assume that was back when it was still farm land.)

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Hello Shoequeen. See my pics last week on the picture of the day thread for up to date ones of this.

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Here is Coronation Gardens in 1960 taken from one of my old colour slides.
Thats the missus on the extreme left.

Nice photie GD.

[QUOTE=Ged;126060]No.13 Beach Lawn and the one time home of White Star shipping line founder - Thomas Henry Ismay.

i finally got around to going to see the house earlier in the week. what do you think the curved part of the building is? an atrium?

i hadn't been in the parks by the marina for yrs & yrs. but i spent a lovely hour or so there. i was so pleased to find them so well cared for (i didn't go in the first one. i can't remember what its called. marine gardens maybe?) my favourite i think is the last one in front of ismay's house with the pond & bulrushes. though adelaide with its benches in a circle & flowers comes a close 2nd.

Lovely isn't it and at least matches anything the south of the city has to offer.

Lovely isn't it and at least matches anything the south of the city has to offer.

a few weeks ago i took finn my youngest to the beach at crosby leisure centre & while we were climbing up & down the sandhills i noticed ppl just standing & staring across to the water. i turned & saw the most gorgous sunset ever i swear!! it was so beautiful & still like a renaissance painting all blues & oranges swirled around the setting sun. everyone there stood & looked at it. i remember thinking this is as serene a sight right here right now as anywhere else in the world. then it suddenly went quite dark & we all turned away awed. its stored in my minds eye but i wish i could have had taken a photo of it to share. but when i'm out with finn i need to keep all hands spare & stay on my toes as he runs away a lot & fast!! if you ever go to the beach there or at burbo & see a woman frantically trying to keep up with a little tyke... that'll be me! finn has autism which means he has no fear & is often in his own little world. he'll either send me to an early grave with worry or keep me fit...not sure which...

at the weekend planning to take him for a walk in the woods near to little crosby & to the hall (though not sure if you can visit it. i think the family still live there) anyway i've already told fraser my 20 yr old that he better keep his mobile on incase i have to phone him to rescue us. as often when i go out with finn he won't turn back around & wants to keep on & on.... it once took me 2 hrs to get him out of squirrel woods & back to the road... by then of course everyone else had gone so it felt quite eerie!

I know the Hall, (on Virgin lane I think it is) is open to schools as my daughters have stayed there. I've often parked up at Burbo just to look out at the estuary.

I know the Hall, (on Virgin lane I think it is) is open to schools as my daughters have stayed there. I've often parked up at Burbo just to look out at the estuary.

yes i thought it was on virgins lane but i picked up a leaflet about walks in sefton & on the map enclosed with it, it says that building on vigins lane is a farm & that crosby hall itself is set back nearer to little crosby in woods. (i think the stone lions are part of the entrance & wall that surrounds the hall) i can tell i am going to get sooooo lost!!