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DaisyChains 03-31-2007, 03:02 PM Hi all
This is my first proper post so be gentle!
I was going down by Grafton St/Sefton St today and I have been thinking for a few weeks, there are alot of little side streets down there, some blocked off. E.g Crow Street.
I took 2 pics but they are a bit dark, so sorry about that.
Perry Street(1) and Crow St (2) the railings one.
I wondered if anyone else knew of any such streets?
Gnomie 03-31-2007, 03:55 PM Hi Daisychains
Welcome to the Forum:)
A few streets off Kensington like that.
This is where my family lived off Scotland Road.
http://h1.ripway.com/andalucia/houses/kewstreet.jpg
Kew Street. i was made up when i saw it in the A-Z. legged it up there only to find it like that:Smiliz_Kingz_PDT_13
Still the cobbles are still there:PDT11
Hi DaisyChains, a great post, thanks. Don't forget to turn the images around :PDT11
scouserdave 03-31-2007, 04:19 PM Daisy, great idea for a thread:PDT11
I know there's a few off West Derby Road near Phredd's end.
taffy 03-31-2007, 05:41 PM Excellent idea for a thread. Plevna St has always interested me. It was a short blind ended street off Dingle Mount. It's still there but now used as the entrance to the Liverpool City Mission Church on Dingle Mount. It still has its original rough cobbled surface. See
http://www.toxteth.net/maps/liverpool/lpool6d.htm
and
http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverpool/general/dingle%20mount.htm
Plevna St is named after a Balkan City whose fall led the Turks to call for an armistice in the Russian Turkish war of the 1870s ( source Steve Horton: Street Names of the City of Liverpool)
AntiPathos 03-31-2007, 06:08 PM http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/5807/nbookstew5.th.jpg (http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nbookstew5.jpg)
Part of one of the stubs of Northbrook Street left where it intersects with Granby Street, L8. Northbrook Street used to run from Kingsley Road through to Princes Avenue (where there's also a similar stub of it still remaining).
And here it is in an old A-Z:
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/8096/nbookstoldmapaw7.th.jpg (http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nbookstoldmapaw7.jpg)
AP.
PhilipG 03-31-2007, 07:38 PM Excellent idea for a thread. Plevna St has always interested me. It was a short blind ended street off Dingle Mount. It's still there but now used as the entrance to the Liverpool City Mission Church on Dingle Mount. It still has its original rough cobbled surface. See
http://www.toxteth.net/maps/liverpool/lpool6d.htm
and
http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverpool/general/dingle%20mount.htm
Plevna St is named after a Balkan City whose fall led the Turks to call for an armistice in the Russian Turkish war of the 1870s ( source Steve Horton: Street Names of the City of Liverpool)
Bosnia, Plevna and Balkan Streets were originally intended to go right across that block and houses at either end of Plevna and Balkan Streets were built (before 1889), but two schools were then built (shown on that 1905 map). One was replaced by the Matthew Arnold School in 1908, so the rest of the houses were never built.
This is from the Ordnance Survey map of 1953.
Note the house numbers.
Before the Paradise Project got under way, I didn't realise South John Street went beyond the bus station, it never occurred to me that the tatty road between the Moat House and Chavasse Park was part of it.
Things are different now of course!
taffy 03-31-2007, 10:57 PM Bosnia, Plevna and Balkan Streets were originally intended to go right across that block and houses at either end of Plevna and Balkan Streets were built (before 1889), but two schools were then built (shown on that 1905 map). One was replaced by the Matthew Arnold School in 1908, so the rest of the houses were never built.
This is from the Ordnance Survey map of 1953.
Note the house numbers.
Thanks for the extra info Phil. I was interested to see the large property known as the Church Army Hostel on Dingle Mount. This site is now occupied by Higson's Court, a housing development for both families and elderly people. The last family to occupy the building before it went over to institutional use was one Harmood Banner, the well known 19th C Liverpool accountant. He died in the mid 1860s and by 1871 the building was used as an epileptic hospital. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmood_Banner
Gnomie 04-01-2007, 12:36 AM Our street has been told it will be closed off until 12 pm today:eek:
DaisyChains 04-01-2007, 08:45 AM little April Fools humour gnomie?:unibrow: :)
Brilliant info so far everyone
Gnomie 04-01-2007, 10:19 AM little April Fools humour gnomie?:unibrow: :)
Brilliant info so far everyone
:unibrow:
Have you seen how many of the roads are listed in the A-Z street map?
Like me with the Genealogy study i bet its a shock when people go looking for their ancestors roads and find them blocked off. mind you its still nice to know thats where they where.
taffy 04-01-2007, 02:44 PM Upper Beau St Everton was once quite a long street. Now only a short length still exists. Photos taken a few years ago. the area may have slightly changed since then.
PhilipG 04-01-2007, 03:25 PM Upper Beau St Everton was once quite a long street. Now only a short length still exists. Photos taken a few years ago. the area may have slightly changed since then.
A bit of Beau Street still exists according to my AA Street by Street guide.
The Haymarket Music Hall used to be there.
It later became a cinema but closed about 1915.
I tried to find the spot but found it was covered by Wallworks car showroom.
Kew Street, mentioned earlier, went from Scotland Road to Great Homer Street where it was the site of the Homer cinema.
Gnomie 04-01-2007, 03:36 PM Cheers for the info on Kew street Philip:)
My dad said there was a cimema at the end of the road, i never knew its name.
drone_pilot 04-01-2007, 06:17 PM On a walkabout today saw this one over the road from the Olympic on Derby road. Dunkeld Street
http://www.militaryimages.net/imagehost/images/dronepilot/img0022.jpg
Gnomie 04-01-2007, 06:27 PM Nice pic
Its wierd to think that once that was a busy road with people living their lives. but its nice to see it still marked even if the houses are gone.
taffy 04-02-2007, 04:49 PM Ruby St, Dingle has been truncated to a short length of road alongside the pub. There is a new Ruby Street around the corner. The original Ruby St along with parallel Emerald st and Nestor St have been demolished and the land converted into parkland and a children's play area.
lindylou 04-02-2007, 05:59 PM There are several streets off Breck rd which have had houses demolished and the streets cut short:
Fowler st.
Hunt st.
Bulwer st.
Windermere st.
chippie 04-02-2007, 06:08 PM I remember all those streets lindy when they were long play streets. Twas my old stomping ground:rolleyes: fine job you did on them.
lindylou 04-02-2007, 06:12 PM Yeah, it doesn't seem all that long ago that they were busy streets with families living in them.
Gnomie 04-02-2007, 07:06 PM Really great thread. will have to get me camera out up Kensington. loads there.
taffy 04-03-2007, 06:27 PM This was a short street coming off Cockburn St, Dingle. All that's left are the curb edging stones which now lead to a pathway into Dingle Park. In the background is Homer Street, also truncated but still existing with a street name, albeit unadopted.
AntiPathos 04-03-2007, 08:23 PM Can anyone say if Harrowby Street, L8 is still intact ?
edwardo 04-05-2007, 05:14 PM Hello.Sorry if this is in the wrong spot,but seeing all the old streets i wonderd if anyone knew were or what this address is thanks all.Love this boad.Ted
Jericho 04-05-2007, 05:33 PM Can anyone say if Harrowby Street, L8 is still intact ?
Most of the area off Park Way has been rebuilt since the 70s.
AntiPathos 04-05-2007, 06:15 PM Most of the area off Park Way has been rebuilt since the 70s.
I thought so but I recall driving through that area in 2006 and seeing some v. old houses on what would/should/could have been Harrowby Street but I wasn't 100% sure where I was at the time. They were in a small row by themselves, maybe six or eight old terraced houses. I'm real interested to know if any of the original 2/3 story terraced town houses still exist in that area.
PhilipG 04-05-2007, 08:55 PM Can anyone say if Harrowby Street, L8 is still intact ?
I don't know if it's still intact, but I walked down Granby Street last week and it's still there.
I was checking out Granby Street/Rosebery Street corner, because the Prince's cinema used to be there, and Rosebery Street doesn't exist now, but there is a footpath going through what used to be it.
taffy 04-05-2007, 09:45 PM Derby St off Canterbury St is now just a short piece of road with the once cherished terraced houses long since demolished and not replaced. It is sited in the "under the bridge" area once called perhaps more appropriately "beyond the bridge"
The newer property on Canterbury St abuts onto Derby St and was the site of the Welsh Presbyterian Church's Bethel Chapel Mission Hall
taffy 04-06-2007, 07:51 PM I thought so but I recall driving through that area in 2006 and seeing some v. old houses on what would/should/could have been Harrowby Street but I wasn't 100% sure where I was at the time. They were in a small row by themselves, maybe six or eight old terraced houses. I'm real interested to know if any of the original 2/3 story terraced town houses still exist in that area.
I think just a small stub remains. Attached is a photo of Park Way showing the entrance to Harrowby St on RHS about half way along. Park Way itself has been truncated from its original route from Upper Parliaiment st to Princes Rd
AntiPathos 04-06-2007, 10:22 PM Thanks mate.
taffy 04-07-2007, 06:29 PM All that remains of Dale Street Garston is a short length of road. The houses were cleared in the early 1970s. The road gets its name as it once overlooked the Garston Dingle. This was an attractive valley leading down to the River Mersey from the Church St/ Speke Rd area of Garston.
The wall on the RHS of the photo is the derelict remains of part of the old Blackwell's foundry.
DaisyChains 04-09-2007, 04:36 PM I found 4 streets off Mill Street, L8 that are simply squares now, most with railings at the bottom.
Barclay Street
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Carrie132/BarclayStreet.jpg
Monro Street
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Carrie132/MonroStreet.jpg
Stopford Street
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Carrie132/StopfordStreet.jpg
Whalley Street
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Carrie132/WhalleyStreet.jpg
Sorry the pics are a little dark. A massive rain cloud came over!
And another little street near Hope Street.
Sugnall Street
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Carrie132/SugnallStreet.jpg
This is an interesting thread, thanks I never even thought about these streets especially the Garston ones.
taffy 04-12-2007, 05:55 PM Most people know South St as the road bounding the south end of the "Welsh Streets" area of Prince's Park. This street is due for demolition. Many many not know that the other half of South Street has already been demolished and the area rebuilt. This part of South St abuts the Queen's Arms on Admiral Street.
taffy 04-14-2007, 10:39 AM This street has become a car park but was once a long street linking Admiral St with Park Rd. The new housing development to replace the "Welsh Streets" has been named after this street.
Steven 04-14-2007, 10:55 AM You can see 'our house' from there. A lot of people from the Welsh Streets have bought a new property in Park Road, opposite to Sommerfield.
How it works, I don't know but several people I know, now own half of their new house.
Butcher 04-14-2007, 12:05 PM Sounds like shared ownership - you buy half the house and rent the other half off a housing association. You can then buy portions of the remainder until you own the whole thing. Makes it easier to get a house for people who don't have enough income to get a big mortgage and buy a house outright.
eileenshaw 04-21-2007, 10:59 PM This road doesn't seem to exist anymore, but I'd be very interested in seeing any old photographs as I believe there were some very grand houses in this road.
Would appreciate any help, advice to find a picture.
eileenshaw 04-21-2007, 11:23 PM Many thanks - I'll try this and will post the photo when I find one.
drone_pilot 04-27-2007, 06:08 PM Saw this on whitefield road next to the Peel pub.
but on closed inspection there seems to be rail tracks embeded in the road, there to small to be a rail/tram track, could be a small track for a works. anyone any ideas.
http://www.militaryimages.net/imagehost/images/dronepilot/mg0043.jpg
http://www.militaryimages.net/imagehost/images/dronepilot/mg0044.jpg
PhilipG 04-27-2007, 06:20 PM Saw this on whitefield road next to the Peel pub.
but on closed inspection there seems to be rail tracks embeded in the road, there to small to be a rail/tram track, could be a small track for a works. anyone any ideas.
http://www.militaryimages.net/imagehost/images/dronepilot/mg0044.jpg
That was the entrance to Barker & Dobson's sweet factory.
drone_pilot 04-27-2007, 06:32 PM That was the entrance to Barker & Dobson's sweet factory.
Thanks for that do you have any images of the Factory
eileenshaw 05-01-2007, 10:18 PM Found photos at the Records Office and am closer to identifying the house I'm looking for, possibly No. 42, but would love to find more photos of this road to be sure it's the right house. Any more ideas would be gratefully received.
drone_pilot 06-19-2007, 05:37 PM Saw this on today, off Breck road, its blocked at both ends and has yellow lines and a no parking sign, do you thing there trying to tell you something?
oritelad 06-21-2007, 02:13 PM what about hodson street the only bit left of it is now been closed off for years it crosses the old waterloo tunnel cutting at fontenoy street
http://www.worldisround.com/photos/28/158/284.jpg
MerseysideTransportTrust 06-28-2007, 04:51 PM The view from my office window.
Name of the street please , answers on a postcard etc!
Rob
Gerard 06-28-2007, 05:42 PM The view from my office window.
Name of the street please , answers on a postcard etc!
Rob
Off Sefton St Rob ?
MerseysideTransportTrust 06-28-2007, 06:20 PM Off Sefton St Rob ?
Nope a bit nearer YOUR area!(HINT look in the background!)
Rob
toothfairy 03-15-2008, 12:57 PM Hi
Does anyone have any information on Clevedon terrace south street toxteth? I am researching my ancestors and they were living here in 1851 but I can only find a Clevedon street
any information would be gratefully received
Thanks
karen
quincyg 03-15-2008, 07:36 PM Hi
Does anyone have any information on Clevedon terrace south street toxteth? I am researching my ancestors and they were living here in 1851 but I can only find a Clevedon street
any information would be gratefully received
Thanks
karen
South St is next to Clevedon St, so it was possibly a block/row of houses called Clevedon Terrace that ran between the 2.
It doesn't show on my 1967 map, and I haven't got an Toxteth OS map yet, I should be getting 1 next week so I'll have a look for you when I get it. Unless someone already has one and can look.
quincyg 03-15-2008, 07:47 PM This was Florist St. One set of my maternal gt grandparents lived there.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/urban%20misc/Picture1642.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/urban%20misc/Picture1643.jpg
I remember the sign still being up a couple of years ago, but didn't know at the time they'd lived there.
They also lived in Lovat St and Mason St.
quincyg 03-16-2008, 07:09 PM Hi
Does anyone have any information on Clevedon terrace south street toxteth? I am researching my ancestors and they were living here in 1851 but I can only find a Clevedon street
any information would be gratefully received
Thanks
karen
got Toxteth OS 1906 map today, but sadly it only goes up the very start of South St and Clevedon St...bummer.
so the full streets will either be on Princess Park 1905 or St Michaels 1908 OS map, neither of which I have.
phredd 03-16-2008, 07:34 PM Saw this on whitefield road next to the Peel pub.
but on closed inspection there seems to be rail tracks embeded in the road, there to small to be a rail/tram track, could be a small track for a works. anyone any ideas.
http://www.militaryimages.net/imagehost/images/dronepilot/mg0043.jpg
Had my first legal drink in the Peel. Threlfalls House IIRC.
Had a Threlfalls Brown Mix.
Lived in Hearwood Street and Granparents lived in Lombard Street.
Nice Chippy oposite the Peel. Jack Garnets. Made plenty of cash feeding the girls from B & D at dinner times.
Phredd
marky 04-22-2008, 10:14 PM Re: Clevedon Terrace:
This is shown on an old map as being just South of the Admiral Street/Devonshire Road junction. It looks to be just South of the Church. Next door to Clevedon Terrace is St. Pauls Terrace. It looks like the end of Clevedon Street was directly opposite it.
marky 04-24-2008, 08:23 AM Re: Clevedon Terrace
I think this is it, but it's hard to see the writing.
Admiral Street/South Street junction:
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee262/south_liverpool/Clevedon_Terrace_map.jpg
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