Has anyone noticed on even the most so called respected media agencies;that anything negative that happens in any area remotely near Liverpool is referred to as "Just outside Liverpool"?

A couple of examples being:
1.A report on Granada news (surprise surprise)about the tragedy that happened in St Helens when the little girl was mauled to death.
St Helens was described as being "On the outskirts of Liverpool".
never minding the fact that you have to actually have to travel through Knowsley to get to St Helens from Liverpool,it is probably as near to Warrington as it is Liverpool.It could even be described as being near to greater Manchester or even Cheshire.

2.The Anthony Walker murder case.Huyton is always described as being "In Liverpool."

3.The kidnap case last week in Huyton.Again,Huyton was described as being "In Liverpool".

Is it me or do they try to find any link to Liverpool when reporting on anything negative that happens in the north west?

You are correct particularly about the way Granada Reports has an obvious
bias against Liverpool. They closed the Albert Dock news center many years
ago, moved This Morning to London because at the time Richard and Judy
didn't like Liverpool, what they don't seem to understand is that Manchester
is fast becoming the murder capital of the country, no disrespect intended
to decent mancunians...

Like water off a ducks back these days.

If you're ever in Huyton I wouldn't mention anything about "not being in Liverpool"

They can get very touchy about that sort of thing.

:)

The BBC Liverpool site often contains negative headlines, when u click on them have been committed in Chester and Warrington!!

That does my head in.

Like water off a ducks back these days.

If you're ever in Huyton I wouldn't mention anything about "not being in Liverpool"

They can get very touchy about that sort of thing.

:)

I used to work in Whiston and would point this fact out to the Huyton lads all the time.I used to call them wollybacks.Same went for the Prescot lads who would walk round calling everyone "Lad".

2.The Anthony Walker murder case.Huyton is always described as being "In Liverpool."

3.The kidnap case last week in Huyton.Again,Huyton was described as being "In Liverpool".


Well it does have a Liverpool postcode and Liverpool dialing code

I've never thought of Kirkby or Huyton as being anything but Liverpool, they have Scouser accents there than parts of Aigburth, Allerton, Childwall or Woolton - sorry if you're from the 'posh' South end. (take Phil Thompson, John Conteh, Steven Gerrard for instance)

Well it does have a Liverpool postcode and Liverpool dialing code


So does Maghull though and Widnes is 0151 though not an 'L' postcode but i'm with you on this one, Huytonians wouldn't be happy - no sireeeee.

For me, Prescot was always the imaginary line where Liverpool finished and woolyland started. Sorry Prescotonians, I know a lot of people were moved there in the big clearout from town in the 50's and 60's and are still fiercely proud of being scouse.

The Huyton and Kirkby lot are very senstive about such things though. Not sure why, most of the people who live there are from the heart of the city. With me being born in town and growing up in Huyton, it didn't stop me giving the locals the odd ribbing though.

:)

Has anyone seen the New UNISON advert filmed in Liverpool?

The title to this thread has changed since I made it.It used to be "Negative Liverpool coverage".

The title to this thread has changed since I made it.It used to be "Negative Liverpool coverage".

Hi Stan

Yes but I think "Liverpool in the UK media" is a fair title for the thread. We are all aware that media coverage of Liverpool is not what it should be, because of certain biases, and there has been much discussion of that fact in this forum.

Chris

Has anyone seen the New UNISON advert filmed in Liverpool?

http://www.unison.org.uk/news/news_view.asp?did=3232

It was interesting to see the day after the semi final against Chelsea that the Sun 'newspaper' chose to run a headline about the burglary at Reina's house. No doubt a tragedy for Reina himself and a despicable act but hardly front page news? If anyone thinks the Scum has changed its position in the last few years this should show that it hasn't and still has a very negative view of Liverpool.

Yes, but we all know relations between The Sun and Liverpool aren't particularly good...

And it is a newsworthy event by today's journalistic standards - people love to read about celebrites suffering or coming unstuck.

Also, a lot of what the media says about Liverpool often has more than a grain of truth about it. We need to take responsibility for that rather than ignoring it and claiming that people are always picking on us. Maybe it's a question of balance?

I think the more we whinge about things the more we just play into the hands of people who like nothing more than to report that side of the city.

Whatever happened to good old fashioned Liverpudlian humour?

If we are going to whinge could we please have some wit as well.

Whatever happened to good old fashioned Liverpudlian humour?

If we are going to whinge could we please have some wit as well.

Isn't that just a stereotype portrayed by our media?

Isn't that just a stereotype portrayed by our media?

Of course :Smiliz_Kingz_PDT_13

Sterotypes work because there is something recognisable about them, something that trades on people's experience of something, however dated or tangential. I don't have a problem with this particular Liverpudlian steroptype because it's benign and in my experience it's accurate enough.

For whatever reason the media expects us to whine so if we go down that route it just becomes a case of 'Here we go again' - ears closed. Told you so etc. Also, as I said, when criticisms about the city are made we need to sift through them to sort out the wheat from the chaff and learn from them. Sometimes they may be fair.

1.A report on Granada news (surprise surprise)about the tragedy that happened in St Helens when the little girl was mauled to death.
St Helens was described as being "On the outskirts of Liverpool".
never minding the fact that you have to actually have to travel through Knowsley to get to St Helens from Liverpool,it is probably as near to Warrington as it is Liverpool.It could even be described as being near to greater Manchester or even Cheshire.


Even though it's closer to and used to be in Lancashire?

But when St Helens RLFC win every trophy going they're refered to as a Lancashire side,can we not claim the Saints for Liverpool then also? the press don't seem to think so.I've also seen Formby squirrel reserve and The Antony Gormley statues refered to as Lancashire recently.Liverpool can't be seen to have a place of beauty now can it,also the British Open at Royal Liverpool last year was called Royal Hoylake by the press many times,what's that about?

Liverpool Womens 10K on Sky TV this morning. I'm sure this will get much coverage over the next couple of days due to the connection with missing Madeleine.

People can say what they want about Liverpool because I know that it's a great city which is far more beautiful and impressive than cities like Manchester and Birmingham, and it is statistically far safer than most UK cities. In a report last year which was on the news, Manchester had the third highest murder rate in the country, but they failed to mention that Liverpool had an extremely low murder rate and is 21st on the list!!
This doesn't mean that we don't have problems, we do, but the media love to blow it out of proportion when it involves Liverpool. I personally think that they're all just jelous.

Just read all this thread for the first time... i find it very interesting.

Im an Essex lad through and through so i dont come from Liverpool i think its cool that all you's that do feel happy to be so... its like im quite proud to say im from Essex, people might think Essex is a bit scummy and i dont think that as a county has the best reputation either, a bit like Liverpool... but i never really noticed the negative imagine Liverpool has...

But your all so right and ive just realised and agree with you all, anything that happens in the press that can be tied in with "just outside Liverpool" i get that, and i do think the press in general the newspapers love to put Liverpool down it doesnt have a great reputation... im not sure why.... its just a place like any other, everywhere has crime, everywhere has drugs, everywhere has its rough areas, everywhere has unemployed spongers.. so to speak.... not just Liverpool, i think Liverpool is a cool place and would happily live there i would ideally love to live in Brookside Close, lol, but it is wierd that the press are so quick to jump on it and put Liverpool as a place down in the dumps.

They are tryig to improve its image/reputation arent they though... so who knows.
Maybe this time in ten years it will be considered totally different by people.

Dan

Dan. We were a nice peaceful little fishing village until Brookside came on the scene with its house sieges, explosions, incest and bodies under the patio etc :unibrow:

I don't know if anyone heard about that stabbing in Liverpool yesterday which was spread all over the news as ' Another racially motivated stabbing in Liverpool '.
It was then later changed as the police decided that it wasn't actually racially motivated. It was like the media liked reporting a racist attack in Liverpool only for them to be laughed at (by me) when it wasn't actually a racist attack.
I don't know why they said 'Another' as the stabbing last year was in Huyton which isn't in Liverpool.
I personally think Liverpool is one of the most tolerant cities in the country compared to places like Birmingham and Greater Manchester. Obviously we do have racist people here like everywhere else, but most people in Liverpool find racism totally unacceptable.

Yes, it has a thread all of its own http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=4565

Northwest Tonight: Did anyone see the Fire Fighters Under Attack feature? I wasn't interested tbh, it was about Manchester after-all. They were stats about firefighters being attacked in the region with Manchester getting its fair share. As a result they have introduced special training on how to deal with it all, all very fine and dandy. The clip they used to illustrate how bad the attacks were was from Liverpool. After watching that, it returned back to Manchester's effort to combat it, all very positive for them eh :rolleyes:. Why didn't they use a Manchester clip?

.....and what's so special about the Manchester 10K?

.....and what's so special about the Manchester 10K?

..its even got a feature on the IC Liverpool site: HOLLYOAKS stars will be among those in the Great Manchester Run on Sunday. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpooldailypost/news/regionalnews/tm_headline=great-day-out%2D-and-a-tiring-one%2D-for-stars%26method=full%26objectid=19122491%26siteid=5 0061-name_page.html)

Imagine the outcry if one of our papers printed an article called "Filthy Irish scum"

It seems we're fair game for anyone to have a pop at these days, and it's not even subtle anymore.

http://www.independent.ie/unsorted/features/now-heres-an-offer-you-really-cant-refuse-691296.html

Filthy Scouse scum
Is there anything more tedious than a Scouser? The most obnoxious city in Europe is also the most smug, self-congratulatory and paranoid - actually, it's a bit like Cork with even more annoying accents.

But after the recent debacle in Greece, it seems like their famous fans are finally getting their comeuppance.

After complaining that the Greek police were heavy handed and that UEFA were picking on them, the sport's governing body have issued a dossier detailing the misbehaviour of the Liverpool fans.

As UEFA's spokesman, William Gaillard puts it: "What other set of fans steal tickets from their fellow supporters or out of the hands of children?"

And how have Liverpool's politicians reacted to the fact that UEFA now brands their fans as the worst in Europe?

"UEFA is dragging Liverpool's name through the mud to deflect attention from themselves," says Scouse council leader Warren Bradley. "Big governing bodies like UEFA always look for scapegoats and never accept any blame."

Scapegoats? Refusal to accept blame? Something Scousers know all about.

RE: Britain's Got Talent opening titles feature the Liver buildings twice if I'm not mistaken.

Great to see, although I don't know why they don't hold the regional heats for these shows in Liverpool considering the showbiz talent here.

There is a good show on next Monday night fronted by Lloyd Grossman called Building Britain. It seems to be about whether Liverpool is losing her character amidst the massive redeveloment taking place here.


Lloyd Grossman is a true friend to Liverpool and a welcome tonic from nut cases like that Irish article above. That made me especially sad to think that an Irish institution could feel like that about Liverpool and her people.

More from this deranged idiot. I know he's just a sad, fat, bitter troll (probably a Man Utd fan) as proved by his admittance that he prowls our message boards looking for reactions to his borderline racist drivel, but to come out and say "I just don't like Liverpudlians" is absolutely pathetic, especially in a national newspaper.

I can take this sort of crap from the rest of the UK, but you expect better from the Irish.


One of the more amusing aspects of the predictably splenetic reaction of the easily outraged Scouse rabble was their knee-jerk accusations of racism — a ludicrous proposition, but one which is quickly grasped at by the kind of pond life who call themselves Scousers when they don't want to actually address the criticisms made against them.

So how did these apparently racially aggrieved fans react? Well, there was this comment on one website referring to me:

“I'd imagine a Scouser once either stole his potato, rode off on his horse (which he keeps in the house) or made a cutting remark about his hairy cheeks.”

Then the legendary Liverpool wit was showcased with the cracker that: “Maybe a leprechaun ran over his horse” (Nurse! My sides!).

Another correspondent proved that Scousers are friendly types, and not the violent, thin-skinned lunatics of pastiche by saying:

“With opinions like that if he hasn't been filled-in during his lifetime it's a miracle. My hammers are too good for his mush, but I bet there would be no shortage of takers in Liverpool”.

Another charmer suggested that “someone should shoot that Irish f ***er in the face”.

Even more delightful was the response of a journalist from the Liverpool Echo who wondered:

“Did Ian O'Doherty's missus walk out on him for a fella from Bootle?

Perhaps he blames his ever-increasing waistline and expanding head on a scally who pinned him down and force fed him doughnuts.”

So just to clear a few things up — I'm not racist, I just don't like Liverpudlians.

Although, in fairness, this column made a mistake when we claimed that the Ken Bigley book of condolences was stolen in Liverpool.

It was actually stolen from a Mosque in Birmingham.

Bloody Muslims.

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/co...ow-701389.html

SOOOOOOOOOOOO...........

He doesn't like Liverpudlians eyyy,

That's alright then, i'm a BLUE.

AAAAR come on Terry, there must be something you can take for that problem. Try going the vet.:shock: