Maps of Liverpool

[bazzacat]

[THREAD EDITED TO LEAVE LINKS ONLY DUE TO FILES SIZES BEING TOO LARGE - CLICK ON THE LINKS TO VIEW] - Kev

Its time for Liverpool to get the “mad map man” treatment. I collect maps of allsorts, but have a particular interest in the South Lancs area. The collection grows all the time, but space is running out! My scanning skills aren’t too good, so bear with me. The digital data images are far clearer.

So, take a journey through time !

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2530/1849id1.jpg

1st series One Inch

Not an original, a facsimilie of the area from 1849 with railways inserted to 1890

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7116/1903wh1.jpg
Likewise, a reprint from 1903

1889

These are excerpts from the first edition County Series maps of Lancashire- I have 2 disks of scans which cover the whole of Lancashire south of Preston. I am lucky in having access to an A0 printer at work, so I can print out complete sheets. Originals of this series tend to be very mucky and well used- I had the option of having the whole set of Hampshire once, but settled for scanning them. I also have most of west Cheshire.They are a fascinating record of the area in the late Victorian age. Any requests for specific areas to be shown, ill try to oblige.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4408/workhouseka9.jpg
Workhouse area

http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/1218/dockji9.jpg
The Pier Head

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9712/limestreetat5.jpg

Around Lime St Station

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Princes Park

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Runcorn

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/8881/toxtethhs4.jpg
Appaling housing in Toxteth

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Birkenhead

1913
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One of favourites is this 1913 One Inch map, which covers an area from Southport to Chester and across to Wigan. Possibly Liverpool in its prime. Note the coastal batteries at Seaforth and Perch Rock.

1947 One Inch
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/820/1947tb3.jpg
I like the style of this series, we begin to see the corporation estates being built.

10k 56
http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/531/liverpoolhistxz8.jpg
This is from the 1956 1:10,000 mapping of Liverpool

1964
http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/7607/customsdw2.jpg

http://img335.imageshack.us/img335/1247/stgeorgecu1.jpg
These are dated 1964, but revision wasn’t too frequent then, so the actual survey may have been carried out 10 years earlier.

One Inch 1968
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5659/1968we7.jpg
Looks more familiar

One Inch 1972
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5013/1972im7.jpg

Seaforth Dock is added

60s / 70s 25k

From the “Provisional” 1:25,00 First series, the forerunner of the Orange “Explorer” maps we see today.

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2268/25knortheg9.jpg

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1976 25K
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2487/1976fk1.jpg
This map makes Liverpool look terrible, look at all the slum clearance areas!

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Recent 10k

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/295/liverpoolbwqa4.jpg
Recent again, using polygonised Landline

Hope you enjoyed it!

[shytalk]

Did enjoy it, thanks. Great scan quality, very clear

[robbo176]

I love looking at old maps,I have a few my self from the Scouse press packets,I also have a few OS maps from Alan Godfrey collection

just recently I have started collecting old A-Z's I now have about 7 Liverpool ones

I do have a request though . do you have any maps that show Barlow Square (off Westminister Rd) Kirkdale? none of my maps show it
my grandfather lived there in 1901 & I live so close to it now I could even be living on the site of it

Mandy

[bazzacat]

Ive just spent a while looking for Barlow Square, but maybe it was quite small and so not named on the map. There are a few courts off Barlow Street- perhaps it was one of them. there is a square off walton road, near a mill, again unlabelled.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/9653/kirkdaleew2.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4064/kirkdale2bj5.jpg

[Kev]

Absolutely awesome!! Thanks Bazzacat :PDT_Piratz_26:

[robbo176]

hi Bazzacat

thank you
I think the Square off Walton Rd is Springfield Sq
in the indexes of my maps it says Barlow Sq off Barlow Street but it doesn't show it on any maps it must be too small to show,I live in the next street to Barlow St & would really love to know exactly were Barlow Square was
looking closely at the map I think there are two squares close to Bradewell St so it could be one of them

thanks again
Mandy

[bazzacat]

It has to be one of them- the street naming conventions usually have offshoots from larger roads having the same prefix.

Ill keep an eye out for further info

[wallasey]

My Aunt has a Liverpool Corporation map which shows Speke Road under construction and also advertises the modern facilities on offer at the new indusrtrial estates in Kirkby, Speke ect. I will attempt to get a few images up here when I am next there (will be around the 22nd!)

[FKoE]

Blooming 'eck.... Bazza... you've a map of Seacombe/ Wallasey up there that shows my old street (Gladstone road) before they knocked it down in the early 70's ... nice one mate :D

[Brenda]

Fascinating stuff!!, I even managed to make out my street on a couple of those maps.
:PDT_Piratz_26:

[wallasey]

Blooming 'eck.... Bazza... you've a map of Seacombe/ Wallasey up there that shows my old street (Gladstone road) before they knocked it down in the early 70's ... nice one mate :D

My Aunts house in Newland Drive (off Wallasey Road) seems to have been built either during or slightly before 1903 as it appears on the map there.

They are very interesting! And it is great to see how the Wirral has grown with the city. Moreton, upton and Greasby were small, isolated villages in 1903 but by 1972, they have expanded and run into each-other!

Really is interesting!

[Kev]

The first contemporary map mentioning Liverpool

http://static.flickr.com/117/306400663_9b2fa13544_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/306400663/)
Records Office at Liverpool City Library

[PhilipG]

I love looking at old maps,I have a few my self from the Scouse press packets,I also have a few OS maps from Alan Godfrey collection

just recently I have started collecting old A-Z's I now have about 7 Liverpool ones

I do have a request though . do you have any maps that show Barlow Square (off Westminister Rd) Kirkdale? none of my maps show it
my grandfather lived there in 1901 & I live so close to it now I could even be living on the site of it

Mandy

The Record Office at Central Library have a wonderful collection of maps.
The largest scale one is the 1890 1/500 series.
Get the right one and it will definitely show Barlow Square, assuming it was built before 1890.
It'll even show steps leading up to the front door, lamp posts and trees.

[Waterways]

I once worked for British Gas. The gas main were run by them (Transco now do this). They had old detailed maps of the city with the gas mains on them. They were copied onto traces and updated as mains were amended. They were very detailed and the gas mains in Upper Parli date from the 1830s.

On Upper Parli on the left on the way up is a Geogian terrace in cream. This was separate houses that looked awful and delapidated. In the 1970s the block was being gutted and converted to flats with the basements all knocked into one. The gas mains came in where each separate house used to be. I had the job of designing the installations for all the flats. As these separate house were no more, I took in one large gas mains pipe into the block and cut off all the old pipes under the pavement. In 1970 Upper Parli was recovered with about 6" to 12" of concrete under. So one dig got us to the 1830s cast iron pipe in the road.

The maps were detailed, showing pavements and property lines, house numbers, etc. Unfrtunate, not in the public domain.

[phredd]

I bought this a few years ago at a Boot Fair. I can not see a publication date on it. It is pre the 0151 numbers.
Can anyone date it ?

Would it be possible to put it on the site ? (copyright) ????
Can a moderator help ?

It would take a lot of scanning on my part. Its about 50 pages long.

Phredd

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/tropus/File0001-1.jpg

ps = another 'Liver Bird' lol



KEV :- Its over to you

[Kev]

I bought this a few years ago at a Boot Fair. I can not see a publication date on it. It is pre the 0151 numbers.
Can anyone date it ?

Would it be possible to put it on the site ? (copyright) ????
Can a moderator help ?

It would take a lot of scanning on my part. Its about 50 pages long.

Phredd

ps = another 'Liver Bird' lol

<b>

KEV :- Its over to you </b>

Looks interesting, I doubt scanning the pics and acknowledging the source will be a problem :PDT_Piratz_26:

[phredd]

Kev thanks for the move.
The map will soon be in a new home so watch this space.

Phredd

ps = do you know of anyone who collects the 'Ghost Train memoriabelia'(sp) from New Brighten ?

Phredd

[johno]

Hi Phred,
I recognise that book. I borrowed that book from my mother about 5years ago and mislaid it in my house. I have been desperately searching for it for the last few weeks. I seem to remember it was pre second world war possibly 1920's as the speke estate had not been built. It showed Everton before the slum clearence programme began. Must keep looking

[verdi]

Nice thread people. I aquirred a large map of Liverpool on linen, I think it was dated 1840 or 60. It was great. I took it over to my brother in Australia, and he had it framed, cost him a bomb. The shop he had it framed in paid him so they could keep it in the window for another week, They had so many people stopping to look at it. I may have a photo some where, but whether I can get it on here is some thing else, as I am a cave man with pc's !:eek:

[theninesisters]

Excellent Maps! My God - imagine someone with a 56k modem :PDT_Xtremez_42: :)

[phredd]

Hi Phred,
I recognise that book. I borrowed that book from my mother about 5years ago and mislaid it in my house. I have been desperately searching for it for the last few weeks. I seem to remember it was pre second world war possibly 1920's as the speke estate had not been built. It showed Everton before the slum clearence programme began. Must keep looking


Thanks for the input john.
The book has to be before the 0151 numbers and after the 'ANF, EVE as all the codes have figures and no letters. ( am I ****ed lol?) in other words does that make sense.
Phredd

[xkopite]

Can anyone please post this map with No 2 court in Kitchen St please.
This is the large scale map.
Many thanks in the hope some one can oblige me.
Dave

[xkopite]

Please Please can any kind soul post this 1891 o/s map for me.
Really grateful if you can.
Thank you in advance.
Dave

[birdseye]

Kitchen Street 1906. Best I could do.

[xkopite]

Would you believe it birdseye, its got to be the top end on St.James St.
Thanks again for your post for me.

[birdseye]

Any better? Got one eye on the PC and one on the telly.

[xkopite]

Thanks birdseye,
Is that the large scale 1891 o/s map.
Thanks again
Just over the moon we beat that crowd again.

[birdseye]

It's OS Lancashire sheet 106.10 of 1906.Bought a few of these a couple of years ago. Invaluable for finding what used to be where.

Be reading in the national papers tomorrow about how lucky Liverpool were to scrape through. If Chelsea had won it would be seen as a masterpiece of footballing skill.

[marky]

I walked down Kitchen Street today. The top end, near St. James' Street, has modern property (derelict petrol garage on one side and Aigburth Tiles building on the other). Heading down to the 'dock road' over the Jamaica Street junction, are several old warehouse type buildings. Late 1800s/early 1900s I'd guess.
This area is very near the old Blundell Street (Wapping) Goods Station, so someone might have more information/pics. I think on the very next block is a triangilar vent for the railway.

[xkopite]

Hi Marky
I have a copy of the 1891 o/s map which covers the section upto Jamacia St.
The courts included are numbers 3,4, 5, 7,8,10, 11,12,14. but no number 2 court.
The great thing about this o/s map is it is large scale, great detail and the courts are numbered.
Dave

[PhilipG]

1873 map.
Source: LRO.

[joge]

Hi Xkopite,
I put this in the Liverpool Past>Housing>Ashfield Cottages thread but have just come across your post here, maybe you can help.

When my Granny married in 1887 she was living in Carey St. This was next to Abstinence St. in the area renowned for the poor quality of its health, sanitation and life expectancy. These streets were so bad they were wiped out sometime before 1906 [O.S. map 1906]. They are shown on my "alleged" map of c.1890.
They are shown more clearly on an 1891 map found at toxteth.net [can't do links!!?].
http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverp...e%20street.htm
[Maybe I can?!?]
Does anyone have a copy from which they can show me a larger area?

Joge

[taffy]

Hi Xkopite,
I put this in the Liverpool Past>Housing>Ashfield Cottages thread but have just come across your post here, maybe you can help.

When my Granny married in 1887 she was living in Carey St. This was next to Abstinence St. in the area renowned for the poor quality of its health, sanitation and life expectancy. These streets were so bad they were wiped out sometime before 1906 [O.S. map 1906]. They are shown on my "alleged" map of c.1890.
They are shown more clearly on an 1891 map found at toxteth.net [can't do links!!?].
http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverp...e%20street.htm
[Maybe I can?!?]
Does anyone have a copy from which they can show me a larger area?

Joge


Large scale map at Liverpool Record Office

[PhilipG]

1890 OS map from LRO.
Sorry, it's rather murky.

[PhilipG]

Hi Xkopite,
I put this in the Liverpool Past>Housing>Ashfield Cottages thread but have just come across your post here, maybe you can help.

When my Granny married in 1887 she was living in Carey St. This was next to Abstinence St. in the area renowned for the poor quality of its health, sanitation and life expectancy. These streets were so bad they were wiped out sometime before 1906 [O.S. map 1906]. They are shown on my "alleged" map of c.1890.
They are shown more clearly on an 1891 map found at toxteth.net [can't do links!!?].
http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverp...e%20street.htm
[Maybe I can?!?]
Does anyone have a copy from which they can show me a larger area?
Joge

BTW. This is the second time you refer to your "alleged" map of 1890.
All I said was, it isn't the 1890 OS version (as they show individual buildings as you can see on this one you've requested).
Yours might well be 1890, but I don't think I've seen it before.
http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3212&d=1180736419

[joge]

Thanks Phil, no offense please. I just wasn't sure about the provenance of the map, the only info given is c.1890, so I guess S&n Genealogy Supplies aren't too sure about the date either. In future I'll refer to it as my 1890 map.

Thanks again for your latest posting.

Are we O.K.??

Joge

[PhilipG]

Thanks Phil, no offense please. I just wasn't sure about the provenance of the map, the only info given is c.1890, so I guess S&n Genealogy Supplies aren't too sure about the date either. In future I'll refer to it as my 1890 map.

Thanks again for your latest posting.

Are we O.K.??

Joge


Yes, we're fine.
I wish I could say what map yours is, because I've seen most of them.

[Jericho]

1890 OS map from LRO.
Sorry, it's rather murky.

Fascinating to see the density of housing when you compare it to what is there now.

[joge]

This is what the cover and the map look like, if it's any help.

[PhilipG]

This is what the cover and the map look like, if it's any help.

The cover says it all.
It was published by Bacon and based on the OS, which most maps are.
The OS covered Liverpool from the 1840s.
I don't think the Record Office have this particular map.

Would you scan the Dingle area for me, and I might be able to date it reasonably accurately?
Thanks.

[joge]

How's this?

[PhilipG]

How's this?

Fine, thanks
It's nearer 1880 than 1890.
I'll check dates of various buildings later and get back to you.

[drone_pilot]

I bought this a few years ago at a Boot Fair. I can not see a publication date on it. It is pre the 0151 numbers.
Can anyone date it ?

Would it be possible to put it on the site ? (copyright) ????
Can a moderator help ?

It would take a lot of scanning on my part. Its about 50 pages long.

Phredd

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/tropus/File0001-1.jpg

ps = another 'Liver Bird' lol



KEV :- Its over to you

I have a later version of yours (sixth edition) and using a little detective work, mine was issued in 1966, see scan.
http://www.militaryimages.net/imagehost/images/dronepilot/img004.jpg

yours being the third edition i would say came out in the 30's, as they probably came out every 10 years.

[PhilipG]

Hi Joge.

I've come to the conclusion that Bacon's used a map, perhaps from the early 1870s (no later), and haven't attempted to do much of an update.
The school in Park Hill Road is shown, but I never managed to find out when it was opened, but thought 1880s.

The following empty sites on the map would later contain the following buildings.
Mount Carmel Church and St Peter's Church, High Park Street (both 1878).
Beaufort Street School (1875).
St Gabriel's Church (1884).

However St Silas Church, High Park Street is also an empty site and that was built in 1865, but St Cleopas Church is shown (built 1867).

So I gave up then!

[joge]

Hi Phil,

Impressive research!!!

Maybe you can shed some light on this, though I'm not sure this is the right thread to broach it.

When I was growing up in L,pool my family often referred to Carey St., in various ways, as a euphemism for extreme poverty. I assumed it was a widely held saying, but, Googling it, and down South here, no-one else seems to have heard it used that way. Is it a L,pool thing, or was it just confined to my family — a tradition founded in my Granny's early experiences having lived for some time in Carey St.?

[PhilipG]

Hi Phil,

Impressive research!!!

Maybe you can shed some light on this, though I'm not sure this is the right thread to broach it.

When I was growing up in L,pool my family often referred to Carey St., in various ways, as a euphemism for extreme poverty. I assumed it was a widely held saying, but, Googling it, and down South here, no-one else seems to have heard it used that way. Is it a L,pool thing, or was it just confined to my family — a tradition founded in my Granny's early experiences having lived for some time in Carey St.?

What they would have meant was that Carey Street was an area of "court dwellings". They're clearly shown on the large-scale map you've provided. In fact 'Court number 4' is named.
Most were jerry-built and became slums and, eventually, they were all replaced.
Carey Street, as you know, went quite early.
Do a Google for "Court Dwellings", if the expression is new to you.

[joge]

Hi Phil,

As you seem to be the "Map Man", do you want a copy my map?

[PhilipG]

Hi Phil,

As you seem to be the "Map Man", do you want a copy my map?

Yes please, Joge.
Do you need my email address?
pm me if so.

[joge]

Hi Phil,

Do you need my email address?
pm me if so.

?? pm me ??

Mail me on:— jogebgood@googlemail.com

Cheers

[PhilipG]

Hi Phil,

Do you need my email address?
pm me if so.

?? pm me ??
Mail me on:— jogebgood@googlemail.com

Cheers


Private Message in this forum.
Click on somebody's name.

I'm mailing you separately, anyway.

[joge]

Gotcha!

[wallasey]

I have the same Burrows map too! How strange.

As an estimate, it could well date from the 1930's as Speke is shown as under-construction as are a few other out-lying districts. To be honest, I havent looked at it for a while; would be great tracking down where Ainsough went if the index wasn't so difficult to understand!

[joge]

When I was growing up in L,pool my family often referred to Carey St., in various ways, as a euphemism for extreme poverty. I assumed it was a widely held saying, but, Googling it, and down South here, no-one else seems to have heard it used that way. Is it a L,pool thing, or was it just confined to my family — a tradition founded in my Granny's early experiences having lived for some time in Carey St.?

To answer my own query, after some more research,— "Carey Street" was a recognised euphemism for bankruptcy, and poverty, not often used these days seemingly. It derives from the establishment of the main Bankruptcy Court in Carey Street in London sometime in the mid 1800's. "Carey Street" also became known colloquially known as "***** Street" which was used in the same way.

I guess it's just a coincidence that Carey Street happened to be in one of the poorest areas in Liverpool. Obviously my Granny and her family knew what they were talking about!

[joge]

Why is "***** Street" reproduced with a set of asterisks? It's a perfectly acceptable use of the phrase and surely cannot be interpreted as offensive. Isn't this just a ***** example of PC sensibilities gone mad?

[marky]

As I can't see the 'banned' word, I'll guess you printed...q.u.e.e.r. street? Am I right.
I've heard this phrase in relation to being in financial trouble, but I haven't heard of the phrase 'Carey street'

[joge]

Yes! You're right Marky. Well interpreted.

[bazzacat]

Sorry ive been absent a while- Phredd kindly sent me the street atlas, and ive been meaning to scan it and post it on here- and i consistently forget!! I will try and get it done in the near future, it will be of interest to many.

[Sloyne]

I have a map of the dock estate and River Mersey dated 1946. It lists all the docks, including Garsten and all the depths in the river channels and anchorages. It is printed on very heavy linen type material and is bound in a black hard cover.

[marky]

The derelict garage at the top-end of Kitchen Street has been demolished and the site is being cleared.

[MerseysideTransportTrust]

heres a page of the 1928 guide.

Shows the railways and tram routes nicely

I'll scan more if anyone interested

Enjoy!

Regards

Rob

[Gerard]

Another Burrow's 6th edition 1960's pointer map..
And my Liverpool Old Ordnance survey maps.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/L1080778.jpg

[PhilipG]

heres a page of the 1928 guide.

Shows the railways and tram routes nicely

I'll scan more if anyone interested

Enjoy!

Regards

Rob


Yes please, Rob.

I'd love to see more.
It's great to see them in colour.
I've photocopied loads from the library, but all in B & W.

[MerseysideTransportTrust]

Yes please, Rob.

I'd love to see more.
It's great to see them in colour.
I've photocopied loads from the library, but all in B & W.


Ok Philip
I'll start a new thread and get them on a bit at a time.

Regards

Rob

[chippie]

Well done Rob, there,s probably loads of us waiting to get a blimp of them:eek:

[Waterways]

The derelict garage at the top-end of Kitchen Street has been demolished and the site is being cleared.

My Dad was born in Kitchen Street

[lindylou]

The Flag company was in that street. When I was about 16 I went there for a job interview.

[Woolly Back]

My great grandfather was the residential stable master at Walker's Ales stables on Kitchen Street circa 1910-1930 and a great uncle followed him from about 1930 -35.

The stables building is sadly demolished now and the plot stands vacant and tatty. A McDonald's has been built on the Dock Rd frontage and truncates the Kitchen St and Bridgwater St junctions.

There's a short piece on the stables (and some nice drawings of the facade and interior) in a Walker's Ales 1896 golden jubilee souvenir book. I've been trying to attach an extract but unfortunately the upload function keeps failing.

Anyway, I'm keen to know if there's any more information available (I couldn't find anything at the public records office where Walker's archives are deposited). If anyone here can point me to further information I'd be very grateful.

Regards,
WB.

[marky]

I took this a few days ago (for the large warehouse between Blundell and Kitchen Streets), but from your description, this sounds the area you're interested in. Maybe It'll jog someones memory.

http://http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee262/south_liverpool/Chaloner_Street.jpg

[Woolly Back]

Yes, that's right Marky. The Walkers stables would have been in the overgrown land behind the pallisade fence on the right hand side of your photo. Thanks for taking and posting this.

Just had another go at uploading the scanned book extract but sadly no joy. (gif reduced in size to 208kb, 728 x 530pixels - any ideas what I might be doing wrong?)

Cheers,
WB.

[TonyS]

Hi,

Apologies if this is Off topic.

Bennison's Map of Liverpool was published in 1835. It covers most of modern day Liverpool, from Seaforth and Aintree in the north, Fazakerley and West Derby to the east, down to Allerton, Childwall and Woolton in the south.

The northern section of the map is on my website, and I'm hoping to get the remainder online before Christmas. Here is a sample, covering Bootle.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/Tony_sw/bootle-1.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/Tony_sw/derbyroadat40-1.jpg



See you,

Tony

[Cadfael]

Fantastic maps! if you anything on Edge Hill and Childwall, I'd be more than grateful for a nose!!

[TonyS]

Hi,

This is a section of Bennison's 1835 Map of Liverpool, covering the Chidwall area. The sheets covering Much Woolton, Allerton, Mossley Hill and Aigburth, as well as those covering north Liverpool, are now online.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/Tony_sw/childwall.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/Tony_sw/wooltonroad.jpg


See you,

Tony

[Cadfael]

An ice cold PINT for Tony! Excellent Maps there - would you give me permission for me to use them on my www.childwall.info website?

[Kev]

Many old Liverpool maps, courtesy LRO:

1- Boundaries

2- 19th Century Liverpool

3- 1644 including Liverpool Castle (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7526)

4- Everton 1716

5- 1725 Liverpool 'Town'

6- 1765 JOHN EYES MAP OF LIVERPOOL

7- 1765 JOHN EYES MAP OF OLD DOCK AND SOUTH DOCK

8- 1769 MAP OF CHILDWALL [FOR BRO CAD ;) ]

9- 1769 MAP OF WALTON AND BRECK ROAD

10- 1769 MAP OF EVERTON AND DOCKS

11- 1795 Plan of Liverpool

12- 1796 John Gere plan of Liverpool

13- 1835 Map of the town of Liverpool and parts of Liverpool (northeast)

14- 1849 Cholera Map

15- 1849 MAP OF THE CITY SUPERIMPOSED WITH DISTANCE TO BE MEASURED FOR HACKNEY CARRIAGES

16- 1858 Map of Vauxhall

17- 1908 MAP OF UNHEALTHY AREAS FOR PROVISION UNDER THE HOUSING OF THE WORKING CLASSES ACT1890

18- 1909 Medical offices map of insanitary areas in Liverpool

19- HISTORICAL MAP OF LIVERPOOL 1664

20- JOHN EYRES 1765 MAP OF LIVERPOOL

21- Map of Liverpool 1797 - High Water

Enjoy......

[Kev]

1- OS 25 map section of Eldon Street and area 1893. Shows Eldon Street before Brodie's concrete flats - site is the courts between school and Vauxhall Road.

2- OS 25 map section of Eldon Street and area 1908. Shows Eldon Street after Brodie's concrete flats built - see change from previous attachment.

3- OS 25 map section of Eldon Street and area 1927. Shows continuing change in Eldon Street area. (NB new flats in Bevington Street)

4- OS 120 map showing part of Eldon Street 1891. The section shows courts 2 and 4 which were demolished to make way for Brodie's concrete flats.

[Ged]

Great those Kev, ta.

[Kev]

Glad you like 'em :PDT11

[shoney]

i like the map of everton it's cool, everton was called "evertoN' but liverpoole was called "liverpoole" we are even more original than liverpool "e"

[skgogosfan]

The first contemporary map mentioning Liverpool

http://static.flickr.com/117/306400663_9b2fa13544_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/306400663/)
Records Office at Liverpool City Library

Wow,I've never seen that one before. Trouble is,I can't figure out what I'm looking at. Where's Liverpool,what area is it covering,which way is north etc? What are all those curly lines also? They look like a spider plant. Anyone care to help thickie me? lol.

Dave.

[ChrisGeorge]

Wow,I've never seen that one before. Trouble is,I can't figure out what I'm looking at. Where's Liverpool,what area is it covering,which way is north etc? What are all those curly lines also? They look like a spider plant. Anyone care to help thickie me? lol.

Dave.

Hi Dave

Liverpool is at the middle right, spelled "lyu'pole" which is actually south. The top of the map is the east coast of England, with Hartlepool in the top left corner. Bottom right is Anglesey with Beaumaris shown unrealistically on the north coast... never mind. Scotland is on the left (north) with what is supposed to be Hadrian's Wall the castellated line running diagonally toward the bottom, the Lake District just to the right of that with Workington visible on the coast and the Isle of Man ("Insula de man") offshore, partly off the map. The curvy lines you asked about are the rivers so the next curvy line to the left or north of Liverpool is the Ribble with Cockersand Abbey with the steeple on the coast and Lancaster and Preston visible and "Amounderness" hundred noted in the rectangle. The big place in the middle of the map or more correctly top center right marked "Eboracum" is the Latin name for York with the rivers shown and nearby places like Ripon and Knaresborough marked. Dave, I hope this explanation helps!

Chris

[johno]

Anyone know where Phoebe Anne Street got its name and does anyone have a map with it included on it.

[George]

Very basic in the streets and some are not listed but generally its a start. ;-)

http://www.toxteth.net/maps/liverpool/gage/gazeteer.htm#C

[skgogosfan]

Hi Dave

Liverpool is at the middle right, spelled "lyu'pole" which is actually south. The top of the map is the east coast of England, with Hartlepool in the top left corner. Bottom right is Anglesey with Beaumaris shown unrealistically on the north coast... never mind. Scotland is on the left (north) with what is supposed to be Hadrian's Wall the castellated line running diagonally toward the bottom, the Lake District just to the right of that with Workington visible on the coast and the Isle of Man ("Insula de man") offshore, partly off the map. The curvy lines you asked about are the rivers so the next curvy line to the left or north of Liverpool is the Ribble with Cockersand Abbey with the steeple on the coast and Lancaster and Preston visible and "Amounderness" hundred noted in the rectangle. The big place in the middle of the map or more correctly top center right marked "Eboracum" is the Latin name for York with the rivers shown and nearby places like Ripon and Knaresborough marked. Dave, I hope this explanation helps!

Chris

Hi Chris...yes,it did. Thanks! :) I had another look and spotted some recognisable names also,so I think I know where I am now!

Dave.

[fortinian]

This is from a book published in 1657 the days before they had snappy titles - "A BOOK of the NAMES of all Parishes, Market Towns, Villages, Hamlets and the smallest Places in England and Wales - Alphabetically set down, as they be in every Shire with the Names of the Hundreds in which they are, and how many Towns there are in each Hundred."

...or as we'd call it, a Gazetteer.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3240/3116100023_808dba0af9.jpg?v=0

A Full size image can be downloaded HERE (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3240/3116100023_620b543bf3_o_d.jpg).

[18stanley]

This is from a book published in 1657 the days before they had snappy titles - "A BOOK of the NAMES of all Parishes, Market Towns, Villages, Hamlets and the smallest Places in England and Wales - Alphabetically set down, as they be in every Shire with the Names of the Hundreds in which they are, and how many Towns there are in each Hundred."

...or as we'd call it, a Gazetteer.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3240/3116100023_808dba0af9.jpg?v=0

A Full size image can be downloaded HERE (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3240/3116100023_620b543bf3_o_d.jpg).

I'm completely gobsmacked! Almost every time I visit this website I come
upon something interesting and rewarding!! This thread is a case in point -absolutely fascinating. I came across it quite by accident an hour ago and
followed it backwards - if I can coin a phrase - and next time follow it all
through again logically and even more painstakingly. My thanks to all for your
contributions , it's a really brilliant thread you've put together!
Stan H

[fortinian]

Thank you Stanley :)

Here is another map of Liverpool with the old 'Town Fields' drawn over a mind-19th Century map.

[jimmytx3]

hi all, seasons greetings to all, could anyone help me,,i am trying to find a map of Sefton by Walton jail, as i am trying to find the footprint of the old and now gone, Saint Augustine s High School, as i now live in that area, and it would be nice to see what was here before me,, i think it was built mid 70s and demolished about 1980,,bye for now Jimmy.
ps if anyone has a photo i would be very grateful..:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

[edwardo]

maps of old liverpool 1905 can be had for about ?2 70 or something like that.
this is in no way an add for said maps .there published by Alan Godfrey maps
Prospect Business Park,Leadgate.Consett.DH8 7PW.
or go to. www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk.

[anonymouse]

Hi Jimmy, Try this one:-

British History; Liverpool map (http://www.british-history.ac.uk/map.aspx?compid=55207)

Click on map to enlarge/centre your chosen area.