Anyone got any memories from Scottie Rd from the late seventies right through to the millenium?? I`m a scouser, aged 39, called Terry, from the area, moved to Oxford 4 years ago, and just found this site last week. Very interesting story of how I managed to land in Oxford, but thats probably not for this thread.......:shock:

Hi Terry
Go to Scottie Press Online you will get memories from yeserdays to the present day you will enjoy this site.
Fergie

yeah mate, been on it, just thought there might be some people from the area to share a few memories and that. Nice one anyway lad. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Gilly, did you once mention the Radcliffe Estate?

From Freddy O'Connor's 'It all came tumbling down'

Some say, not before time for that estate though. How was it for you there, only a year wasn't it?

Gilly, did you once mention the Radcliffe Estate?

From Freddy O'Connor's 'It all came tumbling down'

Some say, not before time for that estate though. How was it for you there, only a year wasn't it?

Interestingly a similarly designed estate still stands in Aigburth Vale and is in good condition.

Just showed me dad that pic of the Raddy and he reckons those particular blocks were on the edge of the estate at the Everton Road end, and the houses that made up the bulk of the estate were slighty different in design and a bit smaller. He's not 100% on that though.

There was a similar estate off Breck Road that lasted quite a bit longer than the raddy, and one in Croxteth just off the east lancs, which is still standing but waiting to be demolished.

Yes Terry. The one off Breck Road contained the Brunel pub within it.

Great Homer Street today...Thur 29th March 07.


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Hey, that's weird that is, if you didn't know it, it gives the impression of not being straight. I know it's a panoramic shot, just looks like it goes round the bend, like me :unibrow:

Took these about 2 hours ago of the St Joseph's/Bishop Goss area.

For all the St Joey's ex pats and for P who lived in 16b Grosvenor St who I met on St George's Hill about 4 weeks ..Happy Easter.


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The original entrance to St Joey's Church..next 3 photos taken in Church doorway.


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From Church doorway looking left toward Rose Hill and Christian St.


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Grosvenor St flats opposite Church.


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From Church doorway looking right toward Chaucer St and Juvenal St.

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Top of Chaucer St..

Next photo taken from same spot but looking down toward Scotland Rd and the area where Arden House was.

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Looking down Chaucer st toward Scottie Rd.
Next photo after this one looking to the right of this picture at more flats on Grosvenor St


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Next photo's taken from the entrance you see in this photo looking at the block opposite....16b P !!..
Hope you like them mate and they bring back many happy memories..


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Brilliant set of pics Gerard:handclap:
Didn't expect the South wall of St Joey's to still be there. You don't see many shots of this area online mate. Thanks:)

Great pics :PDT11

I watched Zulu today:)

Thanks Chaps.

Kev,Can you move this "St Joey's" post to the Scotty Road thread please mate.

done :PDT11

done :PDT11

Thank you Boss..:PDT11

Anyone got any memories from Scottie Rd from the late seventies right through to the millenium?? I`m a scouser, aged 39, called Terry, from the area, moved to Oxford 4 years ago, and just found this site last week. Very interesting story of how I managed to land in Oxford, but thats probably not for this thread.......:shock:
Gilly,
I bet loads of Away supporters have memories of the bottom end of Scottie in the early 70s when they walked back to Limey, especially that hill:eek: This is no reflection on the Scottie community, as all the Red and Blue troublemakers came from the outlying housing estates.

Smashing Photos there Gerard:handclap:

I remember the incline on Chaucer st,we used to get a roller skate,put some wood across it,then sit on it and go down the hill !!!!!!!!
We would play for hours at this,then come home cut and bruised,but hey.........we were back to the game the next day,
Ohh,loverly memories:) :)
Jacky

Here's a few Snaps from my Slideshow I made in 2005.
Over 650 photos on 1 DVD for a Tenner..Complete with Dvd Sleeve..price includes UK postage.. Region Free..will play worldwide..
All my own Photos and over 60 Joe Devine classics (which I paid him for the priveledge to use)

Not a bad price considering 1 photo ordered from the Local Liverpool newspaper will cost you £8..

(eg..Photos taken Inside T Brown the Jeweller's on London Rd in the last few days before it Closed down..They will cost £8 for 1 photo..I was the only person Invited into T Browns in the last week on 3 seperate days including the Last Day Closing down Party..all the Photos I took of the last week in T Brown will also be available soon on a Dvd Slideshow..price....£10...Bargain )


Im not making claims that this is anything special..Im made up with it though and more Importantly as far as Im concerned is that the the Ex residents of Gerard Gardens and people in the St Josephs/Holy Cross area's are Delighted with it..and that will do fer me mate !!

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Gerard Gardens area today..Pontack Pub white building left centre.
This is the opening slideshow Screen..click on what one you want to watch and your away !!



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Over 60 of these vintage cassics showing Gerard Gardens and Gerard Crescent being demolished in 1986.


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Looking along Christian St past the Pontack toward the Rose Hill/Bishop Goss area.


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The same area today.


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Looking up Islington with SFX in the distance.


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The Crescent area.

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From Christian St.


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A rare ariel photo showing Scotland Road and the Comus St/Bishop Goss area..
St Joey's school top right corner with green netting around the building.


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St Joey's School.


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Chaucer St on the right.


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Looking down Chaucer St.


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From Juvenal St looking toward what used to be the Denbigh Castle and Kitty Carters sweet shop.


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Looking up Gt Crosshall St.


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The Holy Cross area.


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Dangsters on Vauxhall Rd.

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Standish Street blocked of due to the new build on the site where Holy Cross Church stood.


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Lime Street area.


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The Lord Warden London rd.


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Anyone remember the Mitre and the Hotsy Totsy.

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The parked cars are on the site of what was the Byrom (Pie Shop) pub.


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Looking down Scotland Road from the Comus St area.


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From Scotland Rd looking over Juvenal St toward Chaucer St.


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Further up Scotland Rd in the St Anthony's area.


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St Anthony's Church.


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The Cunard on Boundary st.


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A few on Great Homer st with the Saturday market outside Paddy's market.
Sadly now gone.


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Roscommon St.

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brilliant photos Gerard :handclap::handclap: :handclap: I really enjoyed looking at them

brilliant photos Gerard :handclap::handclap: :handclap: I really enjoyed looking at them

Thanks Mandy..glad you like them.


I will be the 1st to admit though that they are not the best Quality photos..
I had only just got my 1st Computer and never had a clue what I was doing to be honest,,not a single lesson..just harrishing my Lad "How do I do this".."How do I do that"..I genuinely tried to make it to the best quality that I could..
Its only the last few months to be Honest that I've been on here that I've learnt about proper photography and techniques..
And that is all down to Scouser Dave...Thank you Dave.

Anyway..thats why Im only charging a tenner for it..and its well worth it !!

Gerard, oh Gerard!
What a ****ing superb set of pics mate! An absolute joy:handclap:

Gerard, oh Gerard!
What a ****ing superb set of pics mate! An absolute joy:handclap:



Thats my mate...:handclap: .
Thank you Sir.

I have this disc and I would recommend it. Good stuff.

:PDT11

A couple of my old pics taken around Cazneau St.

Gerard mate, can you date the pub pic? Just thinking the "For Sale" sign may give a clue. I think it may have been taken about 10 years ago.

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Its a great DVD Gerard, i still look through it now and again:PDT_Piratz_26:

I have this disc and I would recommend it. Good stuff.

:PDT11


FAO...A.D Williams and Gnomie...

Get in touch by PM and I'll send you the Dvd artwork sleeve free.
Thats if you got the Dvd from me before I started supplying the Dvd sleeve and you would like one.
Tony..you can drop by next time you are down my way and pick one up if you want mate..


And thank you both for the nice comments.

[QUOTE=scouserdave;50615]A couple of my old pics taken around Cazneau St.

Gerard mate, can you date the pub pic? Just thinking the "For Sale" sign may give a clue. I think it may have been taken about 10 years ago.

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I'd say that photo was taken about 6/8 years ago at the most Dave..
I can remember though the for sale sign was up for years so it could have been a bit longer.
My Brother's mate's Mum had that Pub and it was affectionately known as Ginnie Melody's..
They have been best mates since they were about 3 weeks old and Rrrr kid now works for K.C who has his own building firm.
I've had a few good sessions in there I can tell yer mate..Lol.

brilliant photos Gerard :handclap::handclap: :handclap: I really enjoyed looking at them

:handclap::handclap: :handclap: :handclap::handclap: :handclap:

:handclap::handclap: :handclap: :handclap::handclap: :handclap:

Thank you Chris.glad you like em matey.

:PDT11

Tony..you can drop by next time you are down my way and pick one up if you want mate..




I will mate when i get back, get the kettle on:)

The site of the Hamlet which has been a heap of rubble for six months was finally getting landscaped today.

Wow,:)
Fantastic pics Gerard :handclap:

All our yesterdays !!!!!!!!!

Thankyou

Jacky:)

Your welcome Jacky..Thanks girl.

I can recommend that disc too. Joe and Paula Byrne had the Denbigh when it was my local when I lived at 16 Grosvenor street (Gerard captured it in a pic earlier on the thread but those are NOT our nets) This was from 1989 to 1993 when we moved to Burlington Street. It was during this time that Bishop Goss school next door closed down and my kids were moved to Our Lady's, Eldon Street. The Byrnes built the extension and opened up the sweet shop next door to the pub around 1994 cos I remember thinking we'd have never been out of there if we still lived around the corner. I'd say the for sale sign went up on the Denbigh around 1998 when they were hoping to move to Formby but it was up for a good few years, probably about 6 years before it became the solicitors in 2004.

There was some activity at the Crown Vaults pub today, looked like new floor getting fitted and some tiling done outside. Will be a postive thign for area if a traditional old pub like this re-opens.

OXFORD FILM AND TELEVISION

Oxford Films are currently producing a television documentary series about Liverpool, which will be shown on BBC 2 early next year. It will form the centrepiece of the BBC's recognition of Liverpool as European City of Culture.

It is written and presented by Alexei Sayle who will tell a sweeping cultural history of the city that ranges from its grand art and architecture to its legendary popular culture of music and football.

In the first programme, Alexei is very keen to meet a family who have lived in the Scottie Road area for several decades and can talk to him about how the community has changed over the years. He'd like to find out what specific problems the community faces but also what's good about living in Scottie Road and why they've never left.

Would you pass my contact details, on to whomever you think maybe interested. I'd like to have a chat with them on the phone and if all went well, arrange to meet up to talk further.


Matthew Hill
Assistant Producer
Oxford Film & Television
6, Erskine Road
London NW 3 3AJ
Telephone 0207 483 3637
Mobile 07870 167 444

Gerard. Tried to PM regarding the above but it's coming back that 'Gerard has exceeded his mailbox limit'

Being a Scottie Road stalwart, are you interested in the above, if so, let me know and i'll get in touch with the chap who enquired about it to me.

OXFORD FILM AND TELEVISION

Oxford Films are currently producing a television documentary series about Liverpool, which will be shown on BBC 2 early next year. It will form the centrepiece of the BBC's recognition of Liverpool as European City of Culture.

It is written and presented by Alexei Sayle who will tell a sweeping cultural history of the city that ranges from its grand art and architecture to its legendary popular culture of music and football.

In the first programme, Alexei is very keen to meet a family who have lived in the Scottie Road area for several decades and can talk to him about how the community has changed over the years. He'd like to find out what specific problems the community faces but also what's good about living in Scottie Road and why they've never left.

Would you pass my contact details, on to whomever you think maybe interested. I'd like to have a chat with them on the phone and if all went well, arrange to meet up to talk further.


Matthew Hill
Assistant Producer
Oxford Film & Television
6, Erskine Road
London NW 3 3AJ
Telephone 0207 483 3637
Mobile 07870 167 444


Maybe it will great viewing. Let's wait and see. But my heart sank when I saw the name Alexi Sayle. He is so Liverpool a quarter of a century ago. By his own admission he no longer knows the city even though he makes his living as a professional scouser and occasional novelist.

Why couldn't the BBC have commissioned someone living in the city now to do such a programme? If they want to do a programme about Scottie Road there are plenty of people (at least three members of this forum) with real knowledge who could front such a programme.

If the story is about the a member of the disaspora returning (for a few hours shooting) to see how much the city has changed. I would watch it. I'm sure it would be interesting.

But if this is the centrepiece of the BBC's coverage of 2008 then I'm not happy. Someone like Phil Redmond knows more about the city than 10 Alexi Sayles and has invested his own money in developing its potential rather than milking its sterotypes.

Alexi Sayle. Jesus wept.

I suppose they chose Alexei Sayle because he's reasonably well-known, and probably reasonably cheap.
I agree, Jericho, that he does represent an "alternate" view of Liverpool that is about as relevant today as "Bread" is.

Gerard. Tried to PM regarding the above but it's coming back that 'Gerard has exceeded his mailbox limit'

Being a Scottie Road stalwart, are you interested in the above, if so, let me know and i'll get in touch with the chap who enquired about it to me.



Mornin' Ged Lad..sorry about the PM thingy and have now deleted PM's,got yer text ..Thanks

I dont think I'd be the right choice for that mate,I could only tell them about my Dad being born in the area and working in Silcocks and getting a Gold Rolex when he retired..and losing it on St Anne At when he was a little worse for wear :PDT_Aliboronz_24: and a few tales about his Dad and what he got up to and me Mam coming from Gerard St and Gerard Gardens/Ponnie tales etc and maybe my going to Holy Cross and St Joeys..
I really could'nt tell them much more about the hardships in the early part of the Century and the Slum dwellings etc as I dont really know that much about it to be honest.
I know a little bit Ged but not enough mate to go on the telly and give the story of Scottie Rd..
Im flattered mate you thought of me when you got that message..Thanks Ged..G.

No probs mate. A pity Peggy isn't still with us eh, I bet she could have told him a few stories. I also thought of Tommy O'Keefe and Mr Ryan but I know from Paul that he couldn't even get them to talk on Gardens of Stone but turn the mic off and they'll talk for England.

:PDT10Watcha me heartys,

I don,t think Mr Sayle is even remotely in the top one hundred of presenters to do a job like that. He once said that Liverpool didn,t know the meaning of culture or something equally disparaging. Looks like he,s been chosen to take the shine off our success. It,s like asking the devil to show off heaven.

As for Phil Redmond doing it either, he doesn,t live in the city.

Now if you asked a proper Scouser like maybe Ricky Thomlinson, massive fee or not, he would be worth it.

And maybe an older one who would know something of those hardships that Gerard previously mentioned.

Well said chaps..Alexie who..that posh boy tryin' to be all Eh Lar blah blah blah..A has been Joke who's only doing it for the few quid..
A Scottie Documentary with him fronting it..now that really will be one for the Archives..

Take Note producers from people who really care about Scottie Rd..
GET SHUT of that balloon and get someone in Like Ged Fagan mentions who grew up in the area and knows the History like the back of their hand..

Im talking about someone to present the show and Interview people he Knows..and will get the best out of Scottie Roaders and make you a Documentery second to none.
And he's right here on Yo....GED FAGAN...Get him to front your Scotland Road Documentery..do it..If you want to see the real Scottie Rd that is..

Want one thats gonna be a Laughing stock..then get that Phoney Sayle in.

Its not reaaaaaaaaally about Scotland Road though is it..
Its all about getting a no mark C list name presenter so people will watch your Show..
One who knows as much about Scottie Rd as I know about The north face of Everest...Which is not much I can tell yer.

Thanks Gerard but I don't think i'm old enough to do it justice :unibrow: there's better people than me and having moved away i'd feel like a phoney anyway. Give Joe a knock, he'll rattle all the alehouses off ha ha.

These people must have an agent and they lap it up when the BBC et al are looking for someone to front a show.

Ged and Gerard i have aked you both about the area in the past when i was trying to learn about where my family lived. I was really interested in the replies you gave. you both gave me a good insite into the area and helped me understand where things where. i can know walk around the area knowing what was there. I could have sat in Gerards all day listening to him talk about Comus street:PDT_Piratz_26:

I think you both could do it.

Thanks Tony. You wanna hear him when he's sober.

He was, and very interesting too.

serious though you two should think about it. :PDT11

Ta Tony Lad..anytime mate..:PDT11
Did you get that PM Tone I sent yer last night about Limekiln Lane ??

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Now eh Ged..you make sure you bring yer bib and straw with yer when we go out for this bevvie..
Dont worry Lad..I'll get yer on the bus when yer've took the hickory dickory dock after 4 pints..:unibrow:..
Tell yer Mrs yer'll be home for half 8 bladdered .:$ik:



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Ta Tony Lad..anytime mate..:PDT11
Did you get that PM Tone I sent yer last night about Limekiln Lane ??


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Yep got it mate. Sue says thanks for the info. she knows where she is going now.

cheers mucka

Tony:PDT11

Oh no, not the Lee Jones league of welldoers, you not knocking on that old are yer Tony?

Lime street of course was the original Limekiln lane and due to the smells from the kilns, the doctors at the nearby infirmary - site now of the St. George's Hall complained and so the kilns were moved to a site adjacent to St. Martins in the field and renamed limekiln lane. Lime streets name was then shortened.

:handclap:Now then Gedrick, that was a bit of information that I didn,t know about. I,ll be telling my nearest and dearest all about it later. They think I,m quite knowledgeable with these facts on Liverpool.

Only for this site I,d be an arl ar*****:shock:

Seriously, instead of doing a petition on Bjork, I should be doing one to get the two gees presenting the Capital Of Culture Show.:)

In the red corner, bladdered is Gerard. In the blue corner only halfway bladdered is Gedrick .

Good on yer you two.:handclap:

Thanks Chippie but i'm tellin' yer, Gerard won't be happy with that slur, him being bladdered before me.:)

Ay well he,d been drinking in that pub in School Lanr before he met up with you see, The Post Office it was. Saw him through the winder singing Maggie May.:PDT_Aliboronz_24::PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Are you sure he was 'Singing' Maggie May?

:handclap::handclap:Thank you Gerard for your lovely photos. I must say though I feel very sad after looking at them.It was almost as though I had never lived there as it all looks so different and I only recognised a few places. St Anthonys, and a few in town. I lived on Great Homer St but had no idea that, that was what I was looking at, what part of Great Homer street is it and which way are we looking? I left Liverpool 31 Years ago but have been back 5 times, the last visit was 4 years ago.
You put a lot of effort into your posts and your photos and make it very interesting reading and viewing, thank you.

Well Ged, he did have his boiler suit over the chair in the corner????????:eek:

Ozziebabs, I second that. There are some smashing people on here who would go out of their way to help uou out with information and photographs. Then there are the people like me!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

Nice sentiments for those that deserve them.:hug:

:handclap::handclap:Thank you Gerard for your lovely photos. I must say though I feel very sad after looking at them.It was almost as though I had never lived there as it all looks so different and I only recognised a few places. St Anthonys, and a few in town. I lived on Great Homer St but had no idea that, that was what I was looking at, what part of Great Homer street is it and which way are we looking? I left Liverpool 31 Years ago but have been back 5 times, the last visit was 4 years ago.
You put a lot of effort into your posts and your photos and make it very interesting reading and viewing, thank you.

Hiya ozziebabs and welcome to the group,
Thank you for the nice comments about my piccies,it is very much appreciated..Thanks again..
Heres a few more for yer..
If you want any photos of Greaty as is now or anywhere else around the town then just let me know and I'll get them for yer..
Hope you like these.


Do you remember Wilbraham house on Scottie at the top of Wilbraham St opposite Paddy's market ?
This piccie is looking down Wilbraham St toward Greaty and Tysons has just been demolished.
The new white building at the bottom of the street is where the entrance to Paddys market was.
The blue building extreme right is where Woolies was many moons ago.
The Blue place to the left by the trees was the Lamplighter pub.


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Bottom of Wilbraham st to the left looking north along Greaty.
Next piccie taken outside the Kwiki looking at where Paddys market stood


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What was the Lamplighter looking toward St Anne St
Tysons was behind the hoardings to the right


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Lamplighter to my right looking back along Greaty.
Tysons to the left before it was demolished.


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Scottie Rd from Comus st looking toward Holy Cross area with Leeds st centre picture leading up to Vauxhall rd

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Byrom St looking toward Holy Cross and up Scottie Rd.
The Byrom pub (The Pie shop) was where the plant machine is.


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These next few piccies are taken from the St George's hill area on Netherfield Rd.


Looking North along Netherfield Rd..
The Tugboat Pub centre picture now boarded up.


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Looking down Prince Edwin st toward Fox st and Greaty.
St Gregorys school (now Campion) to the right.


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From the same place as last piccie looking to the right across my Liverpool.
Yep..MYYYYYYYY Liverpool taken from my favourite place to take piccies.
The Soho Arms pub was the white building right centre
The 4 squares stood on the green grass area to the left of what was the Soho.


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hope yer like em ozziebabs.


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Really great pic,s Bring back some memories for me. The kwik save store
used to look after the alarm in that. The pic showing the pub with the block
of shops, I seem to remember a good chippy in that block. Many years ago
1964 I was an apprentice TV engineer in Telefusions workshop which was
in Conway street I think it was...

Great pics Gerard. The area is unrecognisable to me, I knew it well, for about a year 1958/9 I drove the delivery van for Clarksons at Mile End. It was nice to know scottie prior to the Tunnel construction.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Thank's chaps..:PDT11

Great photos Gerard :PDT_Piratz_26:

That final picture already looks like a classic.

Well in Gerard.

I noticed a demolition team just off Scotland Road at Wright Street...maybe of interest, as there's an old building there with a date-stone.

:PDT10Watcha me heartys,

I don,t think Mr Sayle is even remotely in the top one hundred of presenters to do a job like that. He once said that Liverpool didn,t know the meaning of culture or something equally disparaging. Looks like he,s been chosen to take the shine off our success. It,s like asking the devil to show off heaven.

As for Phil Redmond doing it either, he doesn,t live in the city.

Now if you asked a proper Scouser like maybe Ricky Thomlinson, massive fee or not, he would be worth it.


Ricky Tomlinson would be great or another possibility might be poet Roger McGough who though he lives in London would tell the story with Scouse humour appropriate to the theme. He grew up in Litherland.

Chris

Yes perhaps Blackpool born hobo Rick (born Eric) might've been a good choice, he's probably forgotten more than most people know, having been on the trade Union circuit regarding industry closures on Merseyside. He did turn down a 5 figure sum to appear nude for a mag though so maybe his fee wouldn't be that massive if he can afford to turn dough away.:unibrow:

Wright Street, March 2007. There were workmen around the middle section of this derelict block, when I passed yesterday...maybe making it safe?
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Some nice pictures of the area around the old Gerrard Gardens. It was always a good place in the 60's to pick up some last minute bombywood. The local residents were kind enough to source said material and spend many weeks gathering and placing it in the one location for our convenience. A couple of nights before the fifth, preferably after midnight on the fourth we would hasten to said location and help ourselves.

Where were you from Charley, that certainly didn't happen in the 70s :011:

Ha ha.

Twas a cold and frosty November night when the gang of ill-dressed ragamuffins scampered through the moonlight. Up to the Gardens came the shout for there we will find all manner of booty. As a mere nippy-napper I scampered along excited to be going so very far away on such a cold night wearing the schools best shoes especially for the occasion. On and on down hill and up lane we travelled meeting many a person on our way and collecting here and yonder pennies from the from inebriated passers by. The main entrance to the gardens being guarded by large children with little spelling ability but mighty fists that had never held a pen had us scarpering for another entrance. On finding and loading with said bounty, the locals figuring out what was going on scurried to do battle most hastily. My bummeth squeaketh most surely. Then one of our number (the head boy if I do recollect most rightly) shouteth out " What is the longest river in the North American Continent, not including Canada" At this the youths stopped and began to scratch heads, one unkempt urchin tried counting fingers removing his green flash (stolen) pumps as he added his toes to the confusion. As we made away I heard a lonesome voice crying out in the distance " do man-made canals count in the final calculation" Oh how we laughed. And finally as we made our way back home we espied a baby in his pram, a curly, black haired mite with just the beginnings of a tache who as we passed threw his dummy at us from out of his pram. Look lads said the head boy young Ged has started already.

Ha ha Charley. Once that bummeth had squeketh, i'm sureth as hell that the smelleth alone would have alerted the mighty squad down yonder to the pilfering barefoot scoundrels and saw them off with (shiver me) timbers from the local warehousemen.

Interesting you say 'Up to the Gardens'

but later say.....

'On and on down hill and up lane'


I think you were lost myself :)


Would one have been coming up from Vauxy/Fonney Oy

or down from the Bully or 4 squares


Arrrey bee.

Neither from any of the places you mentioned but the hordes I ran amok with in the late 60's came from the area once known as "Stanny". From where we conducted many a raid on the surrounding areas and truth be told suffered many a reverse from the areas you mentioned. I often wonder if we would'nt have all been better simply not bothering with all the "raids" we used to carry out as the wood all semed to end up more or less where it first started out. However a large part of the fun was planning and carrying out these raids on other areas. We often sent a smaller group in first who would be chased leaving the rest of us to rush in and steal as much wood as we could carry. We never got as far as the four squares and the bully was way out of our league, and we used to skirt round that place whnever we were in the vicinity.

Here is the latest edition (Jan 08) of Britain's longest running community newspapers to read online.

http://scottiepressarchive.org/383/sp_383_jan2008_pg1.htm


Here also, you can read back issues from the archive

http://www.scottiepressarchive.org/paperindex.htm


Enjoy.

I love the Carters and their horses that are featured:PDT11

I am helping Ron Formby locate historic images of the Liverpool Irish in the Scotland Road area in support of the Scottie Press efforts to have the history, heritage and culture of the Scotland Road area included in the Liverpool Irish Festival 2008. Anyone who has photos or other memorablia that they feel might be able to assist this work can contact Ron on 0151 482 2000 or email ronformby@scottiepress.org

Cheers,

Ged.

Organised by the Scottie Press as part of the Vauxhall Neighbourhood Council, it will be held over both large rooms with entertainment running throughout the day. I know we're playing there, there's an Irish dance group, Stevie Faye and Micky Finn are scheduled to appear, a police brass band, Mandoliers and disco + more.

Ron tells me he could have sold out the 04 reunion 4 times over as many ex residents from the tenements, high rise and streets off Scottie all assembled en masse with stories, photo albums and memories of the way they were with the children and now grandchildren of those residents also taking part to keep the flag flying.

If anyone is interested, please refer to the poster.

Stump art, Scotland Road (in middle of the road, University end)

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