there is to be a lunar eclipse tonight starting at 20:18 and reaching totality at 22:44.It should be a good one and a great chance to try out some night photography.
More info
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6411991.stm

Just took this:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/165/409021301_426526b9e3.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/409021301/)

Nice work, Kev. It may be possible to darken it a bit and bring out the details of the craters perhaps.

Chris

Just took this:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/165/409021301_426526b9e3.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/409021301/)



Where did you take that from Kev..Seriously mate....From Scottie Rd there is No Moon at all..

Oops..I watched the Sunset from the Back of the House and wondered what Was Going On...Just gone out the Front Door and theres the Moon above Me..Di'ckhead !!

Best I could do!

(This is Kev's picture re-adjusted!)

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Just got this 9.18 pm..


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/CROPPEDMOON.jpg

Here's a couple taken an hour back.
Advice: Put your cameras in Manual mode, set the ISO to 100 and mess around with speeds of around 60th - 100th/second and an aperture of between F8 - F16. And use a tripod!:)

Kev, I see you found the Tele setting on your camera:PDT11

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/moon001.jpg

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/moon002.jpg

The Best I could do !!


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/EDITEDMOON.jpg


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/CROPPEDMOON2.jpg

Hey Billo did you get to see the eclipse ?

Im rather chuffed with this one as well.The Moons a bit distant but I didn't want to crop it.


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/DSC00679.jpg

This is my Favourite.


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/DSC00669.jpg

Nice work here, Gerard.

Chris

Just got back from collecting my lad from a gig.
Here's a few from earlier. The last two are really weird as I had to keep the shutter open for about 20 seconds to capture the red and the blur was due to the rotation of the moon.

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/moona.jpg

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/moonb.jpg

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/moonc.jpg

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/moond.jpg

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/moone.jpg

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/moonf.jpg

Here's a couple taken an hour back.
Advice: Put your cameras in Manual mode, set the ISO to 100 and mess around with speeds of around 60th - 100th/second and an aperture of between F8 - F16. And use a tripod!:)

Kev, I see you found the Tele setting on your camera:PDT11

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/moon001.jpg

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/moon002.jpg

Look just like Nasa pictures.:PDT_Aliboronz_24: :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Nice work here, Gerard.

Chris


Thanks very much Chris,Im well pleased with them Mate..Better not say Over the Moon Eh !!

Great Pictures Dave,Like the ones of the Moon Spinnin' mate,Superb Lad.


This ones me new Favourite...(Cant believe I took that..Honest !!)

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/DSC00744.jpg

Thanks Gerard,
just catching up with your pics this morning. Great clarity. Really interested to know what your camera settings were when you took these pics. And please don't tell me it was just simply put on Auto or it'll do me head in mate! LOL!:PDT_Piratz_26:

Awesome pictures guys, I never got to see it as I was town in a bar :rolleyes:

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6721/moonhe4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Nice pics Paul and peeps :PDT11.

It's a bit blurred,I think I need to invest in a better camera.

Havn't u got an optical zoom camera Paul? I seem to remember seeing one when we met up.

Thanks Gerard,
just catching up with your pics this morning. Great clarity. Really interested to know what your camera settings were when you took these pics. And please don't tell me it was just simply put on Auto or it'll do me head in mate! LOL!:PDT_Piratz_26:

Hello Davey Mate,I noticed Dave the Earlier photos I took had turned out very bright...I never had a clue why or what to change as I've only had the Camera 2 Weeks and only used it on Auto,Not cause I never wanted to learn how to take better Photies but because the Instruction Manual is the worst I've ever come across..and I've had ( still got) loads of Sony Stuff over the years but this Booklet is a Joke mate..
Anyway..I started fiddling about on Manual settings and took a picture this way and that way...
The Photo you mention was taken on ISO 80 f/7.1 at 1/100s Without a Tripod..I wanted to get it out but felt a Right Divvie with the Kids watching me in the street..If I had got the Tripod out I would have got some stick !!..

This Next photo Dave was again Taken without a Tripod...ISO rating 80, f/7.1 , 1/100s...Taken at 12x Optical Zoom and cropped..Haven't really messed about with it..Just Sharpened it up a Bit and changed to B&W.
In this Free google Picasa Photo Editing effort...http://picasa.google.co.uk/

Just starting to get me Ead around Photoshop and Picasa is all I need at the Time Being..
Wait till I learn how to use Photoshop matey...I'll be after yer's !!!


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/DSC00743.jpg

Havn't u got an optical zoom camera Paul? I seem to remember seeing one when we met up.

Yes but that's the best I could do.:PDT_Xtremez_12:

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Just starting to get me Ead around Photoshop and Picasa is all I need at the Time Being..
Wait till I learn how to use Photoshop matey...I'll be after yer's !!!




There are some good tuts [URL="http://www.pixel2life.com/"]here (http://picasa.google.co.uk/)

There are some good tuts here (http://www.pixel2life.com/)

Cheers Kev,Now Im on me way Lad !!

Hey Billo did you get to see the eclipse ?
yes, but my camera is not up to getting good shots. However I did watch it through my 20-60 x 60 spotting scope which was a bargain from Aldi a couple of weeks ago.

I was asleep when it was happening so this will have to do...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtwdqd9m5xc&mode=related&search=

More Moon.

http://www.vanilladays.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/eclipse2-4.jpg

Camera: Canon 30D // Lens: Canon 100-400 IS L // Aperture: f/8 // Shutter Speed: 1/100 // ISO:100 // Focal Length: 400mm

amazing, cheers :PDT_Piratz_26::PDT11

Taken on me 200 quid Sony.


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/DSC00745.jpg

The glare was added after?

The glare was added after?

No way Kev...I had the shutter speed set on a 6 hour setting and sat in the Garden watching the Sunrise..Me and me mate Jack Daniels....Honest !!!..On a Tripod of Course Matey !

My first night exposure (oh, er Matron!)Canon Powershot A510 3.2 mega pixels
Any criticism welcome.

My first night exposure (oh, er Matron!)Canon Powershot A510 3.2 mega pixels
Any criticism welcome.

OH yes, just in the middle :-) look at my avatar, Fuji S5600 1/125th F4
digital and optical zoom

have a fugi s5600 myself need to get a tripod heres my effort of a moon picture

have a fugi s5600 myself need to get a tripod heres my effort of a moon picture

Not a lot wrong with that. I,m playing with an IR filter works well

Hi :)

My Eclipse photo

http://www.ph-digitalphotography-motorsports.com/moon-sdk_background_small.jpg

Hi :)

My Eclipse photo

http://www.ph-digitalphotography-motorsports.com/moon-sdk_background_small.jpg

Superb again :handclap:

Superb again :handclap:

Thx :)

Looking at your photo above - I'm not sure the lens flare works, good effort though :)

Thx :)

Looking at your photo above - I'm not sure the lens flare works, good effort though :)

Just a little add on Later SDK..Messin about In Paint Shop...Only had a "Proper" camera 4 weeks Mate if you can Call a £200 Sony Camera a Proper one..
I've also got a Nifty little Leica C Lux 1 but I never really Took it Seriously as I say till about 2 Months ago when I joined Here and got Chattin' to Scouser Dave...The Man !!
Not Being Funny or Nothing But when I see My Neighbour Joe Devines (Millions!!) of old Fantastic Liverpool pics then thats enough Reason for me not to Start Arsin arount too much in the Likes Of Photoshop..
He is a Genius as Far as I'm concerned..Still Taking Photos after 40 years or whatever and When He Says He doesn't believe in Messing about and Tarting up Photo's then His advise will do for me.
That Moon thingy was just a Little Gimmick to show that If I can do them Effect thingy's after 3 weeks with No Tutorials or Camera worth more than £200 then anyone Can do it...Wonder what I'll be able to do in a Few Months after getting used to using the Manual settings and maybe then Getting a real "Proper" Camera.
I'll be watching Your Photo's SDK with great Interest hoping to pick up Hints and Tips as I can see your a great Photographer..Keep em Coming.

If you get a "proper" camera, by which I guess you mean a DSLR, you'll need Photoshop to edit the RAW files, boost the colours in the image and then sharpen it. Why? Because camera makers design DSLR's images to be edited. They're set at a baseline level so photographers can then edit them as they see fit. Photoshop CS3 has some very nice features for converting images into black and white. Adobe Lightroom is also very nice for image processing. Its like a basic version of Photoshop with just enough features for daily processing.

If you get a "proper" camera, by which I guess you mean a DSLR, you'll need Photoshop to edit the RAW files, boost the colours in the image and then sharpen it. Why? Because camera makers design DSLR's images to be edited. They're set at a baseline level so photographers can then edit them as they see fit. Photoshop CS3 has some very nice features for converting images into black and white. Adobe Lightroom is also very nice for image processing. Its like a basic version of Photoshop with just enough features for daily processing.


Cheers Pete for the advise and I appreciate it,Thats all a good bit down the road for me yet,Maybe Im a bit old Fashioned but when I do Finally take this Photo M'larky really serious I just want my photies to be Like this of "Real" Subjects and Not Overlayered or whatever you call it and touched up here there and Everywhere..
How could you make that Better in Photoshop or the like..You cant as Far as I'm concerned.
This is My Kinda Photography Pete..No amount of Phoney Skies or the Like could make this Photo Better.
These 2 gents were Affectionately known as "Egg and Bacon" because they were always Together.


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/IMG_0013-4.jpg

It could do with a bit of sharpening imho :) Might look nice in black and white too, I'm a sucker for those things. For the record, I never ever use Photoshop to add elements to my photos. I never add phony skies or anything like that, I just don't believe in it. I only work with what the camera was able to capture on the day. I just enhance what the camera gives me. Lots of people are already thinking that cameras in 5 years time will have technology in them to do what I currently do. I do documentary work because its real. I never like staged photos. However, just like in the old days of film work with darkrooms, Photoshop is needed if you want to get the best possible result from your image. Whether thats making it sharper, converting to a nice film like black and white image, or doing lots of processing to make your view of how you see the world possible, its needed imho.

It could do with a bit of sharpening imho :) Might look nice in black and white too, I'm a sucker for those things. For the record, I never ever use Photoshop to add elements to my photos. I never add phony skies or anything like that, I just don't believe in it. I only work with what the camera was able to capture on the day. I just enhance what the camera gives me. Lots of people are already thinking that cameras in 5 years time will have technology in them to do what I currently do. I do documentary work because its real. I never like staged photos. However, just like in the old days of film work with darkrooms, Photoshop is needed if you want to get the best possible result from your image. Whether thats making it sharper, converting to a nice film like black and white image, or doing lots of processing to make your view of how you see the world possible, its needed imho.


You CAN call me Gerard you Know Pete..I did address you By your Correct Monica after all...
Keep up the Good work Lad..Your Photo's are Brilliant so dont Cheat...Pete.

It could do with a bit of sharpening imho :) Might look nice in black and white too, I'm a sucker for those things. For the record, I never ever use Photoshop to add elements to my photos. I never add phony skies or anything like that, I just don't believe in it. I only work with what the camera was able to capture on the day. I just enhance what the camera gives me. Lots of people are already thinking that cameras in 5 years time will have technology in them to do what I currently do. I do documentary work because its real. I never like staged photos. However, just like in the old days of film work with darkrooms, Photoshop is needed if you want to get the best possible result from your image. Whether thats making it sharper, converting to a nice film like black and white image, or doing lots of processing to make your view of how you see the world possible, its needed imho.

I mostly just use the odd little sharpening or just sharpen the edges or noise reduction.

Sometimes I use auto colour but I don't like adding exposure to the images In photoshop, I prefer the natural exposure when you take the picture.

You CAN call me Gerard you Know Pete..I did address you By your Correct Monica after all...
Keep up the Good work Lad..Your Photo's are Brilliant so dont Cheat...Pete.

Sorry Gerard, nothing personal. Its just the way I write online :) Don't worry, I never cheat. I only enhance :D

I mostly just use the odd little sharpening or just sharpen the edges or noise reduction.

Sometimes I use auto colour but I don't like adding exposure to the images In photoshop, I prefer the natural exposure when you take the picture.

Ah you see with the RAW format on DSLR's and now on some digital compacts it allows you to rescue photos that maybe under or over exposed. Due to the way the camera can meter the light in a scene you may accidentally meter the wrong area when you take a photo and it may come out wrongly exposed. So with RAW it saves the data for -2/+2 stops either way. You can then rescue the shot. Its in no way cheating as its a feature of the camera, just like ISO or sports mode. Lots of professionals shoot this way as its an added safety feature for when they get back to the office.

Yep i agree if you want the best out of your pics Photoshop is a must have. I also shoot in RAW in most cases and use either my nikon editor or photoshop / Paintshop pro X and also use them to make enhancements in one way or another but i dont use effects ie sunbursts or fake skys im like you pete i only work with what the CCD took. tell a lie i have used a sunburst once in a Buzzard shot but it worked out well as the picture is takeing sales but thats the only one i promis :)

You CAN call me Gerard you Know Pete..I did address you By your Correct Monica after all...
Keep up the Good work Lad..Your Photo's are Brilliant so dont Cheat...Pete.Photography is an artform with no rules, therefore you can't cheat. Pete's comments on DSLRs are justified. If somebody asks me what camera they'd recommend, unless they specifically say they want an SLR I recommend a compact, simply because DSLRs can be hard work for the reasons Pete gives.

I know we've been over all this before, but post-processing is just part of the image forming process, and this has always been the case. I'd rather have a good image and be happy with it than have a mediocre photograph and say 'at least I didn't cheat'. At the end of the day, people will judge the image on it's appearance mainly. Personally I haven't done much post-processing on images, but I'm trying to find time to learn more, as it can totally transform an image and make it twice as good. Too many times people abhor 'Photoshopping' images - why end the creativity at the composition? Why be happy with what your camera spits out when you can do so much more?

Photography is an artform with no rules, therefore you can't cheat. Pete's comments on DSLRs are justified. If somebody asks me what camera they'd recommend, unless they specifically say they want an SLR I recommend a compact, simply because DSLRs can be hard work for the reasons Pete gives.

I know we've been over all this before, but post-processing is just part of the image forming process, and this has always been the case. I'd rather have a good image and be happy with it than have a mediocre photograph and say 'at least I didn't cheat'. At the end of the day, people will judge the image on it's appearance mainly. Personally I haven't done much post-processing on images, but I'm trying to find time to learn more, as it can totally transform an image and make it twice as good. Too many times people abhor 'Photoshopping' images - why end the creativity at the composition? Why be happy with what your camera spits out when you can do so much more?

Im not Knocking Photoshop at All..As I've said Before I would love to be able to use It..
What got on My Tit if its OK saying this without Starting a war is People having a Go Shall we say at Other Peoples Not so good Photo's..
C'mon,We all know you Guys are Fantastic Photographer's But I reckon Some of you have Now lost the Respect from Mere Mortals with Cheapo Point and Shoots..
There Really is No Need to Critiscise..I think I've got a Valid Point here as I've had a few PM'S from people who have Said they will no Longer be putting pictures On Here..
Please dont say No Body was Critiscing anyone and if you cant Take advise dont put your Pictures on.
If you People with yer Grands worth of Gear wanna have a go at a Photo taken on £70 effort...WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE ASKED... OR SEND THEM A PM,,EASY INNIT !!
This Thread is Supposed To be For Everyone without the Fear of Some Smart Arse saying your Photo's Crap..Not In So Many Words but we all Know what the Little Snidey Remarks Mean..
Have a Look at the Newbie Last Night..SDK..I posted all Kinds of Nice Comments about his Photies..He wasn't on 5 Minutes and started having a Go at Mine..
I suspect he was Brought in to wind me Up..No one Can just join a Group and start Having a go at other People after 2 Minutes..I was "Onto" him right away.
I'll tell yer What..If this Gets Out of hand again then Im gonna Do what a Lot of People have done over the last Few Weeks because of The Stick on Here and go and Find another Group..
You Pro's can have it all to yourselve's then.
Some of you wanna take a Leaf out of Scouser Dave's Book..That Lad takes Better Photo's than Anyone on here..Is His head up His own Arse..No Way.

Please dont say No Body was Critiscing anyone and if you cant Take advise dont put your Pictures on. This Thread is Supposed To be For Everyone without the Fear of Some Smart Arse saying your Photo's Crap..Not In So Many Words but we all Know what the Little Snidey Remarks Mean..
Sorry, I thought the photography section of this forum was created so that we could chat about photos and criticise them? And you're wrong, I can take advice, that's why I put pictures on. I seem to remember it was YOU saying that advice shouldn't be given in the POTD thread when Pete said a photo was underexposed.

The point is this. Everyone has preferred techniques, and a preferred end result. While it's healthy to discuss such things, there's no right or wrong, so nobody has any need to feel insecure or victimised.

My personal opinion is that you should be as creative as you want, DSLR or compact or whatever. Yet again I say, for the record, that constructive criticism is invited on any photography I post anywhere at anytime. Without feedback and change, there is no improvement and progression.

Sorry, I thought the photography section of this forum was created so that we could chat about photos and criticise them? And you're wrong, I can take advice, that's why I put pictures on. I seem to remember it was YOU saying that advice shouldn't be given in the POTD thread when Pete said a photo was underexposed.

The point is this. Everyone has preferred techniques, and a preferred end result. While it's healthy to discuss such things, there's no right or wrong, so nobody has any need to feel insecure or victimised.

My personal opinion is that you should be as creative as you want, DSLR or compact or whatever. Yet again I say, for the record, that constructive criticism is invited on any photography I post anywhere at anytime. Without feedback and change, there is no improvement and progression.

So SDK was in the right then to just come on and have a go after 2 Minutes of joing the Group..Is that what your saying.

Did he 'have a go'? What did he say then? Give me a link to the thread. Obviously abusing someone's work is counter-productive. But sometimes people don't seem to want to accept advice. If I say that every photo by everyone is excellent, then I'm patronising them. I'd be more insulted if someone patronised me than if they told me my photos were skewy or too dark, etc.

Did he 'have a go'? What did he say then? Give me a link to the thread. Obviously abusing someone's work is counter-productive. But sometimes people don't seem to want to accept advice. If I say that every photo by everyone is excellent, then I'm patronising them. I'd be more insulted if someone patronised me than if they told me my photos were skewy or too dark, etc.

He came on here to Wind Me up.
And the one who was on the Same Time as him Lurking was Behind it..Must think I'm Bleedin Stupid.
And as for Advise I've Got Scouser Daves Head done in with all the PM'S I'm sending him asking for advise on this that and the Other.
Yer know where yer can Stick yer Photie Forum dont yer Matey after all these Sly Tactics.
I'll never put another Photo on here again and am now gonna take all my Photies Off....
Well Done Lad...Another one Bites the Dust.

So SDK was in the right then to just come on and have a go after 2 Minutes of joing the Group..Is that what your saying.

Gerard,

I'm not siding with anyone with what I'm about to ask you, afterall u defended me when Pete commented on my under-exposed photo.

Do you agree with the comment SDK made with regards to your photo? don't take into account how long he's been here, just as a general comment about your photo.

I know negative comments can have a diverse affect on anyone wanting to post photos, but just think that it doesn't matter what anyone thinks about your photo's as long as you like them yourself :)

Im not Knocking Photoshop at All..As I've said Before I would love to be able to use It..

Fair enough :) It is a tricky program to use and I've been at it for 7 years now and still learning.

What got on My Tit if its OK saying this without Starting a war is People having a Go Shall we say at Other Peoples Not so good Photo's..
C'mon,We all know you Guys are Fantastic Photographer's But I reckon Some of you have Now lost the Respect from Mere Mortals with Cheapo Point and Shoots.

I also don't want to start another slanging match. Things got way out of hand last time and I hope we can chat like men this time. I think the problem is that some of us have spent years chatting on forums about photography. Its what we do, who we are. We accept that by putting our work online we're open to criticism. We accept that our work isn't always everyones cup of tea and whatever people say we have to decide whether its justified or not and move on from that. People have been very very very harsh over some of my pics. Down right insulting to be perfectly honest. I accept that they either don't know what they're talking about, or if they do they simply don't like my work so I move on. I know there are people who do like it and thats good enough for me. Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that some of us are used to it. I started off 4 years ago with a £150 camera and learnt from people offering me constructive criticism to make my photos better. Sometimes I felt they were wrong but I learnt a lot from it.

Now I know this isn't a photography forum. But we debate and criticise what we say and what we do here but when it comes to photos its some how different. I fully accept that only a small percentage here are professionals and the rest just enjoy getting snaps of things they see and do. Thats perfectly fine by me. How often have you seen me having a go at someone? I don't do it very often because I appreciate that people don't really want to hear it. They just want to know that they're snaps are nice. However, when I do it its only to help. I'm sure thats the intention of everyone else. Its not because they've lost touch or anything. Its because they feel like helping out someone just as someone else helped them out. I can't see anything wrong with that. Some people on here do accept advise. If we've got to the point where helping someone is a bad thing, then please lock my account now.

There Really is No Need to Critiscise..I think I've got a Valid Point here as I've had a few PM'S from people who have Said they will no Longer be putting pictures On Here..
Please dont say No Body was Critiscing anyone and if you cant Take advise dont put your Pictures on.

Well thats a real shame. But please show me all the harsh nasty posts that have driven people to this extreme and then we'll go from there. Thats their loss if they can't accept help.

If you People with yer Grands worth of Gear wanna have a go at a Photo taken on £70 effort...WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE ASKED... OR SEND THEM A PM,,EASY INNIT !!

You see, this is another problem. You think because we have £1000 cameras we all think we're amazing. Well in my collection I have a camera from the 70's. I have a camera from the 50's. I have my mobile phone. I had a picture taken on a £5 throw away camera shown in the Tate. I sold a photo taken on a £150 4 year old camera for £400. A camera thats worse than your current one probably. With minimal photoshopping I might add. Its not the camera, its the photographer who makes the image. Again, if you can show me all these harsh posts then I'll accept your word for it but personally I haven't seen anything of that nature.

This Thread is Supposed To be For Everyone without the Fear of Some Smart Arse saying your Photo's Crap..Not In So Many Words but we all Know what the Little Snidey Remarks Mean..

Show me the money! C'mon, dig out the posts and prove your point. Put up or shut up as they say :)

Have a Look at the Newbie Last Night..SDK..I posted all Kinds of Nice Comments about his Photies..He wasn't on 5 Minutes and started having a Go at Mine..

You mean a good photographer stopped by to help you? Shame you couldn't accept it.

I'll tell yer What..If this Gets Out of hand again then Im gonna Do what a Lot of People have done over the last Few Weeks because of The Stick on Here and go and Find another Group..
You Pro's can have it all to yourselve's then.
Some of you wanna take a Leaf out of Scouser Dave's Book..That Lad takes Better Photo's than Anyone on here..Is His head up His own Arse..No Way.

Again, shame you can't accept someone trying to help you. At one point you say you'd like to learn Photoshop but when someone offers advise you go off ranting. Its a real shame you see our help as something so twisted.

Again, I haven't asked for a critique or criticism of this post, so you can't reply. Thats what you want isn't it? I'll be expecting "Great post" from you.

Hi :)

My Eclipse photo

http://www.ph-digitalphotography-motorsports.com/moon-sdk_background_small.jpg

As godlike as Pete Carr's.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

This all comes down to one person's inferiority complex and problem with accepting any kind of feedback. That kind of attitude makes for a blinkered existence. This argument is boring and pointless.

There's a really simple rule of thumb here. If you don't want feedback on what you post on a public web forum, and can't take criticism like a man, don't ****ing bother at all.

Hey guys, getting a bit out of hand...
As has been said in photography images are down to personal preference.
You have seen some of my photo,s, I think they are ok, if someone dosn't
then fair enough. I experiment taking shots, using different angles, filters
etc and do minor tweaks like cropping, sharpening and sometimes uppingthe saturation a bit, I don't drasticly alter things like making the sky funny colours
but, I have no problem with others doing it, and in fact some ofthe shots I have seen look stunning. I do like others pass comments if a shot has an obvious problem, ie out of focus, and also suggest ways in which it maybe
improved, ie, convert to B+W, crop out to much sky or increase saturation a touch, I would never openly say that the shot was total crap, as the guy
may only have been taking photo,s for a few days, or has a new camera, you
should have seen some of mine when I got a new camera, openly admit, they
were junk :-), anyway my point is. don't knock people try to help

Gerard,

I'm not siding with anyone with what I'm about to ask you, afterall u defended me when Pete commented on my under-exposed photo.

Do you agree with the comment SDK made with regards to your photo? don't take into account how long he's been here, just as a general comment about your photo.

I know negative comments can have a diverse affect on anyone wanting to post photos, but just think that it doesn't matter what anyone thinks about your photo's as long as you like them yourself :)

This SDK joined the Group last night,within about 10 Minutes of Joining the Group he had made his Entrance with 2 Snidey Comments about 2 of my Pictures..Why Mine !!...WHY NO COMMENTS ABOUT ANYONE ELSE'S PHOTO'S..
I'll tell yer Why..Pete Carr was Lurking all the Time watching what was Going on..He Brought him on here..Have a look at Pete's Moon Photo..And have a look at the One I put on after it..I Reckon Thats why Pete brought this SDK in..Because he thought Me..A No Mark Photographer was Taking the Michael out of His Photo when all I was doing was Showing that Any Idiot could Cheat in Photoshop.
I know this and so Do you Pete,,I dont expect you to be a Man and admit it though.
I can take all the Stick in the world about My Photo's..Im having no part of these Sly Tactics though.
Enjoy yer Photo's.

And if anyone wants to throw anything at me..
Answer this 1st please...WHY NO SNIDEY COMMENTS ABOUT ANYONE ELSE'S PHOTO'S..WHY ONLY MY 2....Think about It !!

I'll happily admit that SDK is my friend and that I've known him for years on other forums. His work has been a great inspiration for me. The reason why I was lurking was because I got emails about responses to forum posts. So I looked at them. I didn't tell him to sign up or anything like that. He has a great interest in macro photography so he probably joined up to chat.

I just like my Images to have as much quality as possible. I get fussy over quality and I welcome advice or criticism. I've only being doing photography as a hobby since only last year In August and only since December I've actually kept Images as the Camera Phone ones I started out with are deleted except for the Hale ones to remind me to do Hale again and know where to go.

Love using photo shop though and mix that with the Sony I have Is making me real pleased with my Images.

I like to be satisfied with my Images too but when people see them on Flickr I like the pics to be good enough for them look at as well.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

When I'm not too lazy to read pages, I'll learn to do GLHDR(I really mean HDR but I want to call It God Like High Dynamic Range.:PDT10 )

I don't see what the hell has going on here though?

SDK might of not seen anything wrong with anyone elses pics, maybe thats why he didn't comment on anyone elses? He did say something about Sloynes though.

Max's last sentence is pretty much the best answer to Gerard's last post. There's no conspiracy here.

Gerard,

You're one of the better photographers here, I
think we'd all agree with that so I don't think you should take any comments aimed towards you as suggesting you can't take good photos.

I've liked pretty much all your shots, including the moon one. There's been very few taken by anyone on this site that I've looked at and thought, thats not that good but I would never dream of commenting on it.

I hope no-one stops posting on here because of a few comments, maybe they don't like your photo's but many others do :)

Kev's reaction when he sees this thread.:PDT10 :PDT_Piratz_26:

http://careerbuilder.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/stress_small.jpg

http://www.success.net.au/images/stresstest_man.jpg

[QUOTE=Max;46105]Kev's reaction when he sees this thread.:PDT10 :PDT_Piratz_26:

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Hahahahah.

And whilst we're all at it, I take exception to some peoples indifference about my jokes on here....


What do you mean 'what jokes'.

I'll happily admit that SDK is my friend and that I've known him for years on other forums. His work has been a great inspiration for me. The reason why I was lurking was because I got emails about responses to forum posts. So I looked at them. I didn't tell him to sign up or anything like that. He has a great interest in macro photography so he probably joined up to chat.

And that says It all for me snappel..

Going straight for My Photies after being on the Group 2 Minutes..Yeah Right.
Yer Might be Kiddin yerselve's here but yer not Kiddin' me.
Whats that snappel..An Apology..
Lets see what kind of Man YOU are eh.

By the way..My Photies are Going No where..
I wouldn't give yer the Satisfaction.

Whats that snappel..An Apology..
An apology? For what? You added a solar flare to your picture and SDK thought it didn't work. Just because he didn't comment on anybody else's photos it doesn't mean he was 'out to get you'. For the record, I didn't think it worked either, but that doesn't mean we're all out to get you, just that we prefer the photo without it.

I've nothing to apologise for I'm afraid. I stand by everything I've said. Post pictures up on forums and expect them to be commented on. If you're only interested in people saying good things about your photos, then you'll only be disappointed in the long run. Since I've posted photos on a photography forum (thanks for the link Pete) I've had lots of criticism. Sometimes it makes me realise I've missed something, or could do more with a photo, and sometimes it's just a difference of opinion. Either way, I take the comments on board, and move on. I have belief in myself, so even if someone told me everything I'd done is rubbish I wouldn't care, as I myself am happy with my images.

It comes down to this. If you're going to take lots of photos and present them for people to see, you need a little bit of confidence in your ability. And for the record Gerard, you've posted some very good photos, so you can't say I'm having a go at your abilities as a photographer.

I post my photies and couldn't care less what you think of the professionalism of it because i'm not, however, it may contain an image that may be close to someone's heart and for instance they may be an expat who can't just get to the location as easily as me so for me, it's the image captured that matters even if it's not David Baily quality.


So derrrr.

Well said Ged:handclap:

I just enjoy taking them. stuff anyone who dont like them.
could`nt give a Monkeys.

An apology? For what? You added a solar flare to your picture and SDK thought it didn't work. Just because he didn't comment on anybody else's photos it doesn't mean he was 'out to get you'. For the record, I didn't think it worked either, but that doesn't mean we're all out to get you, just that we prefer the photo without it.

I've nothing to apologise for I'm afraid. I stand by everything I've said. Post pictures up on forums and expect them to be commented on. If you're only interested in people saying good things about your photos, then you'll only be disappointed in the long run. Since I've posted photos on a photography forum (thanks for the link Pete) I've had lots of criticism. Sometimes it makes me realise I've missed something, or could do more with a photo, and sometimes it's just a difference of opinion. Either way, I take the comments on board, and move on. I have belief in myself, so even if someone told me everything I'd done is rubbish I wouldn't care, as I myself am happy with my images.

It comes down to this. If you're going to take lots of photos and present them for people to see, you need a little bit of confidence in your ability. And for the record Gerard, you've posted some very good photos, so you can't say I'm having a go at your abilities as a photographer.


Me..Lack Confidence...When...1968 when I 1st Tried to Cop Off..
Thats why I walk in the Likes of T Brown with a Camera I barely know how to use and have them all under my thumb.

I'm willing to take any Critiscism snappell on My Photo's or anything Else I do in Life.
And I will listen and Learn to the Likes of you and Anyone else who will listen to me Doing their Head in about Photography..Ask Scouser Dave.
I know I'm right on this one Mate..I Think you know as well but didn't really Expect you to Go against Pete..
I dont want a War Here..Thats the end as Far as I'm concerned..As I Say..I Knew what was going on Right away..and I've found out who and who not to Trust on here Mate..Dont worry about that.
Thank You For the Comments about my Photo's...I Like Your Work snappell and admire what you Do..Keep It up.

And

And whilst we're all at it, I take exception to some peoples indifference about my jokes on here....


What do you mean 'what jokes'.

Is that what they were Ged ?!!..Lol..Gudduns Lad.

I post my photies and couldn't care less what you think of the professionalism of it because i'm not, however, it may contain an image that may be close to someone's heart and for instance they may be an expat who can't just get to the location as easily as me so for me, it's the image captured that matters even if it's not David Baily quality.


So derrrr.

Exactly. Thats why I don't often comment here because I know people just enjoy taking photos for themselves. They don't want to hear my "professional" opinion on it so I don't give it. One of my cameras is designed in a way that makes it produce technically bad photos, but I love it. Another of my cameras is actually broke and produces really bad shots, but again I love it.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/74/183261748_037e52611e.jpg

That was taken on a 1950's Kodak Duaflex TLR camera. Cost me about £20. There's all kinds of things wrong with it, technically speaking, but I like it. I had to take the photo through the viewfinder with a Canon A70. I do it just to broaden my horizons, and to see things in a different way.

and I've found out who and who not to Trust on here Mate..Dont worry about that.

Do you want a hug?

hugs all round :hug:

Exactly. Thats why I don't often comment here because I know people just enjoy taking photos for themselves. They don't want to hear my "professional" opinion on it so I don't give it. One of my cameras is designed in a way that makes it produce technically bad photos, but I love it. Another of my cameras is actually broke and produces really bad shots, but again I love it.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/74/183261748_037e52611e.jpg

That was taken on a 1950's Kodak Duaflex TLR camera. Cost me about £20. There's all kinds of things wrong with it, technically speaking, but I like it. I had to take the photo through the viewfinder with a Canon A70. I do it just to broaden my horizons, and to see things in a different way.



Do you want a hug?

Do you want a Chocolate Frog ?

hhhhhmmm is it a freddo Gerard

hhhhhmmm is it a freddo Gerard

Bongo Choc Tony.

Bongo Choc Tony.

Does it have lens flare?

Hey – thanks for the friendly welcome to your forum :) :)

This is getting a bit out of control here; a couple of points I would like to make.


I received two comments on my photos from both Gerard and Sloyne and thought it would be courtesy to give some comments back on both of their photos. I feel your comments quoted below Gerard are very one sighted
This SDK joined the Group last night,within about 10 Minutes of Joining the Group he had made his Entrance with 2 Snidey Comments about 2 of my Pictures..Why Mine !!...WHY NO COMMENTS ABOUT ANYONE ELSE'S PHOTO'S.


I do know petecarr but he didn't tell me to come here last night - He sent me a link to the forum months ago. I was bored last night and thought I would check it out :)

Hey – thanks for the friendly welcome to your forum :) :)

This is getting a bit out of control here; a couple of points I would like to make.


I received two comments on my photos from both Gerard and Sloyne and thought it would be courtesy to give some comments back on both of their photos. I feel your comments quoted below Gerard are very one sighted



I do know petecarr but he didn't tell me to come here last night - He sent me a link to the forum months ago. I was bored last night and thought I would check it out :)



You Did get a Friendly Welcome from me Last Night..
And when you want to leave I'll give you your Bus Fare.

aaaw c`mon everyone, lets be nice.:)

I like this forum, please dont argue.

gnomie will be sad:tear:

Read the Posts Kev before you have a go at me for saying that.
I'm not gonna Have Anyone Come on here to Deliberately have a go at Me..
If Your not happy with that Kev just say so Mate and I'll off me Pop..

Read Everything 1st Though Mate.

:eek: Dont go Gerard. i like you mate and your pics.

Do you want a Chocolate Frog ?

Any sugar mice, Gerard? Haven't had one of those in years.

:)

:eek: Dont go Gerard. i like you mate and your pics.

Its Down to Kev Tony...I'm not putting up with that and I'll tell Anyone..Preferably Right to their Face mate.

SDK has just explained, in clear logical non-capitalised English that what he did was purely constructive. Therefore there's no need to be off with him.

This argument is seriously boring me though. By the way, if you have any problems with your camera, check out what Pete did with a Lomo (http://www.vanilladays.com/gallery/category/Lomo/). Quite inspiring...

Folks, I'll post a response after I've reflected on the the posts and where this has come from, 'till then its locked. Disappointed though.