Anfield District

[Kev]

Thought I'd start this thread after the latest details (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/6398483.stm) of one of the largest urban park restoration schemes in the UK were unveiled.

Any info and pics would be appreciated.

[steveb]

Thought I'd start this thread after the latest details (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/6398483.stm) of one of the largest urban park restoration schemes in the UK were unveiled.

Any info and pics would be appreciated.


Hi

yes Stanley Park, still say it should have been built out of the city. OK we
know if they did local business would suffer badly, but as per usual more
green space being taken away....

[taffy]

Thought I'd start this thread after the latest details (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/6398483.stm) of one of the largest urban park restoration schemes in the UK were unveiled.

Any info and pics would be appreciated.


Let's also hope some money gets spent on renovating Anfield Cemetery. This splendid place is looking very down at heel at the moment. I underdstand that Anfield was once spelt Ann Field. I wonder who Ann was? A family relative, William ****son, once owned Anfield House.

[shank]

our house prices have gone down in the last 3 years its about time they started the regeneration now their is a bit of movement in the market the houses off hildebrand rd have gone down by about £20 thousand in the last 3years i hope they go up so we can get out of this hell hole

[SteH]

Took this today of the Gladstone Conservatory, which will hopefully look far better after the restoration.

[Paul D]

Took this today of the Gladstone Conservatory, which will hopefully look far better after the restoration.

Here's what they plan to do with it.

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3192/isla20gladstoneqn7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Kev]

THIS is the picture that proves that the new Anfield dream is to become reality. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=new-anfield%2D-the-first-picture%26method=full%26objectid=18741200%26siteid =50061-name_page.html)

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icliverpool/mar2007/6/1/45E76C65-ACC3-1D1E-12FD1CDC9F222645.jpg

[Max]

Will they use It for than just football?

[stan]

Where abouts are these fences? I hope they haven't closed the terrace gardens.

[Kev]

WELCOME to the new north Liverpool. These amazing images show how Anfield, Everton and surrounding areas will be transformed with millions of pounds of regeneration money. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=a-born%2Dagain-north-liverpool%26method=full%26objectid=18745582%26site id=50061-name_page.html)

[shank]

Do you think its good to have academy's these schools are taken out of local education and financed by private money and are no longer under local education i think i feel safer for my kids to stay under local education unbrella

[lindylou]

Utting ave

[wallasey]

Has anything happened in Anfield with regards to demolition? I went along Walton Breck Road on the 26 and couldn't spot any changes from the last time I went!

[Gerard]

Has anything happened in Anfield with regards to demolition? I went along Walton Breck Road on the 26 and couldn't spot any changes from the last time I went!

Hiya wallasey,some great Images on there mate. :handclap:

[SteH]

Has anything happened in Anfield with regards to demolition? I went along Walton Breck Road on the 26 and couldn't spot any changes from the last time I went!

They've closed off Lake St this week and workmen are on site so I assume the houses on the other side of the road are coming down imminently

[lindylou]

I noticed that the Montrose club, Whitefield rd has been demolished - I cut through that way yesterday and was surprised to see it has gone.

Strangely the outline where it used to be didn't look all that big, yet the club was a reasonable size with lots of tables and quite a big dance floor and a stage and cloakrooms. I think there was a back room too.
You'd wonder where it all fitted in when you see the outline. (or 'footprint' to use the latest phrase! :rolleyes: )

[SteH]

I noticed that the Montrose club, Whitefield rd has been demolished - I cut through that way yesterday and was surprised to see it has gone.

Thats been down a while, such a shame it was a great place:unibrow:

[lindylou]

Think I know what you mean by :unibrow:


:D

The Montrose did get a bit of a reputation :unibrow:

It started out ok years ago and there were some good groups and comedians on there. The last few years it changed and went all rowdy.
I heard some tales about that place ! :ninja:

[wallasey]

So in other words, I need to get down there!

Well its Easter holls and revision is key for the next two weeks but I will try to get down there this weekend.

EDIT: Gerrard, thanks for the kind comment! I aim to please!

[Gerard]

So in other words, I need to get down there!

Well its Easter holls and revision is key for the next two weeks but I will try to get down there this weekend.

EDIT: Gerrard, thanks for the kind comment! I aim to please!


Stay WELL away from there wallasey Lad..The Grafton is like the Palladium compared to that place.

Your welcome by the way.

[Kev]

:D

The Montrose did get a bit of a reputation :unibrow:



lol, the Montrose, used to go in there a few times.....

[wallasey]

Stay WELL away from there wallasey Lad..The Grafton is like the Palladium compared to that place.

Your welcome by the way.

Oh no no! I didnt mean I need to go to the club, I meant I need to get to the streets which are about to come down!

I dont go to strange clubs unless you count Sherlocks in Birkenhead!

[floyd]

Wow thats a great pic of Utting Lindylou, you must have been standing just outside my old house to take it (number 24). I used to love it there

[lindylou]

Yes, it's a nice speck there. The houses have a pleasant outlook onto the trees.

Just the traffic a bit hectic. :)

[stan]

Those trees will be gone soon.

[lindylou]

Wha' !! :shock: I hope not !


You mean when the new LFC plans begin ? It can't affect those trees ?? - or are you winding me up ! :)

[floyd]

They chop the buggers back to the gills every year and they still grow back. There used to be twice as many until they thinned them and took out alternate trees years back. My Nanna went ballistic at the workmen for chopping down 'her tree' and demanded a chunk of it to keep in the house.

[Max]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/maxmolyneux/sets/72157600042747239/

For a pub next to the Staduim It's quite run down looking on the outside.

[floyd]

I love the Albert. Remember going in there one match day with my Ma and daring to ask for a red wine, the response was to the point "Wine? We don't sell wine" double brandy was what she got :)
Incidentally, my Ma was the Arkles barmaid for quite a while during the 60's and has told me how they used to have to turn off the Guinness on a match day because it took too long to pour! :)

[SteH]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/maxmolyneux/sets/72157600042747239/

For a pub next to the Staduim It's quite run down looking on the outside.

Its great inside,loads of footie memorabilia from all over the world

[Max]

The Albert looks less run down on the outside In this older pic off ScouserDave's site.

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/andy/albert.jpg

They need some red paint and few cuppa teas and then job done.:PDT11

[AK1]

It's just been left to deteriorate for too long, like most things in Liverpool!:disgust:

[lindylou]

some pictures taken around Anfield.

Listed buildings on Breck rd. (Houses dating from 1700s if I'm not mistaken).
View of Pinehurst ave and Pinehurst rd (to the right) - St Columbas church seperates the avenue from the road.
Anfield sign.
Trees on Pinehurst ave.
Blossom trees on Townsend lane.

[Shapers]

Police have confirmed that a body found on wasteland in Anfield is that of a 29-year-old woman.

The discovery was made a little after 7am today on Lower Breck road near the Liverpool Supporters' Club.

Police are treating the incident as 'unexplained' at the moment and a post
morrtem examination will take place to establish the cause of death.

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=body-found-in-anfield%26method=full%26objectid=19203210%26siteid =50061-name_page.html

[marie]

Police have confirmed that a body found on wasteland in Anfield is that of a 29-year-old woman.

The discovery was made a little after 7am today on Lower Breck road near the Liverpool Supporters' Club.

Police are treating the incident as 'unexplained' at the moment and a post
morrtem examination will take place to establish the cause of death.

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=body-found-in-anfield%26method=full%26objectid=19203210%26siteid =50061-name_page.html

Sound horrible!! Did the police now about it?

Rest in peace/Goian bego

[shank]

whats the world coming to i live off Hildebrand road the so called nice part of anfield someone fired a gun at a house supposed to be one of these plazy gangsters but they got the wrong house thank god no one was hurt the police came round handing leaflets out saying they wont tolerate this yet every one nose they sit off in the local cafe round the corner smokeing dope and dealing honestly the police round hear make inspector cluso look good

[SteH]

Who sits off in the local cafe smoking dope, the police or plazzy gangsters?

[snappel]

What's a plazzy gangster?

[phredd]

PLAZZY

Try this link. It does not make good reading comming from Liverpool though.

http://forum.raotl.co.uk/index.php

Phredd

[shank]

What's a plazzy gangster?

kids aged 16-22ish who think there gangsters because they can get there hands on guns and go round shooting each other mainly to do with drugs

[steveb]

kids aged 16-22ish who think there gangsters because they can get there hands on guns and go round shooting each other mainly to do with drugs

Or put another way, wannabe gangsters who are big guys when in groups
of 9 or 10.

[AK1]

They're just pathetic. If you got all these kids a put them somewhere that has real gangsters and real gangs, they wouldn't last two minutes. To them it's all a big game, what they don't realise is in other cities especially in the U.S. that is a way of life, they don't go round shooting eachother to look good or act 'cool' in front of their mates. They make me laugh.

[julieoapw]

Jimmy Corkhill in Brookside always used to call Barry Grant a plazzy gangster!
(Them were the days!)

[Ernie]

:ninja:Big men trying to get out of little mens bodies.They never make it no
guts, unless mobhanded.
Ernie.

[snappel]

Funny how on their YouTube vids the gangs always say stuff like 'If ya come ta Kenny la see how long ya last', etc. Always on the home turf, when all the others are there. But that's what it is - it's all show. They want to be seen to look hard, but really what are they? Kids.

Look at real organised gangs and bosses, like the Krays, Gotti, Gambino... when did you ever see them making videos to prove their weight (or lack there-of)?

[lottie]

Very true Snappel :handclap:

[Kev]

Maybe the recent net phenomenon and all things electronic and small has detracted these kids' attentions away from the actualities of forming serious organised crime organisations (although anti social stuff is very bad), instead they make these vids and pretend, acting it all out.

The thing is, there are so many of them running around now that the chances of any of them actually making any success out of their criminality is slim to say the least. Non of them have experienced the hardships of previous generations, that has led to The Krays, Curtis Warren etc...., just bad role models and parenting. Lets face it, financially, they get all the hand-outs available.

[snappel]

Exactly. Real organised criminals keep quiet and don't draw attention to themselves. If I was an international drug baron, I'd live in a small flat with a beaten-up old Ford Escort. Then I'd stash all the funds in an offshore bank account. I certainly wouldn't make a video saying 'Look m8 im da illest drgz boss in da land lolzorzzz!!!1 chek ma weaponz an me b1tchz'.

[Max]

Like the Cayman Islands.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Which are UK owned too!

[Luke the Scouser]

I live in Anfield. Someone got stabbed the other day outside the Oakfield pub and I hear someone got axed near Thirlmere Road.

[Kev]

Mothers tell of suicide bid as they speak out against gangs of 20 yobs roaming streets causing mayhem . . . “it’s like living in Beirut”, they tell ECHO

more (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2007/07/16/we-live-in-a-yob-war-zone-100252-19460283/)


Gangs of up to 20 children are roaming the streets attacking cars and houses and threatening violence to anyone who opposes them.

[shytalk]

People should demand that the police chief gets results or is fired, he is a highly paid government official. YOU pay him so you should demand results.
The yob situation was getting noticeable even 25 years ago when I left, todays yobs are the offspring of those yobs, they know no better because that is how they were raised. The problem should have been addressed years ago but do-gooders thought they knew best.

[Bevy]

People should demand that the police chief gets results or is fired, he is a highly paid government official. YOU pay him so you should demand results.
The yob situation was getting noticeable even 25 years ago when I left, todays yobs are the offspring of those yobs, they know no better because that is how they were raised. The problem should have been addressed years ago but do-gooders thought they knew best.


spot on Sir..:PDT11

[Shapers]

People should demand that the police chief gets results or is fired, he is a highly paid government official. YOU pay him so you should demand results.
The yob situation was getting noticeable even 25 years ago when I left, todays yobs are the offspring of those yobs, they know no better because that is how they were raised. The problem should have been addressed years ago but do-gooders thought they knew best.


Yes the do gooders, who have harmed society more than corporal punishment ever could. Don't hit a kid of say 23 (kid hah) or an 18 year old whos 6'3 and built like a brick wall because they just battered a pensioner or a random person because they only need guidance and don't know right from wrong. Even though a 5 year old automatically knows when he or she is naughty, dosen't apply to these 'kids'. There mums and dads split up when they were 3 months old you see so there angry at society, so to compensate they go round in gangs and make people lives hell. Thats why there justified in there actions.

MEMO to liberals, no it dosen't, let them target your elderley mothers or grannys house and then say there 'just kids'.

[lindylou]

yes, that's the way I feel - - I gave up having any sympathy or understanding a long time ago.

I don't want to 'understand' them.

We are all sick to the back teeth of it. :angry:

[Luke the Scouser]

Probably nothing to shout about but does anyone think that what happened in Norris Green last year will start happening in Anfield this year. For example innocent young lads being killed, turf wars etc. Probably won't happen but need to be cautious.

[Kev]

In all probability it will, there's a progression in behavior from anti social kids into teens who take it to the next level. They've been let down in a weird kind of way from our society of doogooders (mentioned in another thread) who have made us all powerless to do anything about it.

[SteH]

Probably nothing to shout about but does anyone think that what happened in Norris Green last year will start happening in Anfield this year. For example innocent young lads being killed, turf wars etc. Probably won't happen but need to be cautious.

I dont think Liam 'smigger Smith was entirely an innocent lad, although he obviously didnt deserve to be shot dead. The reality now is that if you get into a gang and crime guns will become invovled at some point the higher up the chain you go.

[lindylou]

Probably nothing to shout about but does anyone think that what happened in Norris Green last year will start happening in Anfield this year. For example innocent young lads being killed, turf wars etc. Probably won't happen but need to be cautious.

Luke, it probably will. There have already been some shootings in Anfield.

Nothing would surprise me anymore.

[customhouse]

Evil prospers when good men do nothing. Maybe it's about time to bring back vigilante justice.. (Wait for the bleeding hearts to cry Foul ). If the police are powerless to do anything it's a viable option.

[SteH]

Evil prospers when good men do nothing. Maybe it's about time to bring back vigilante justice.. (Wait for the bleeding hearts to cry Foul ). If the police are powerless to do anything it's a viable option.

Who would actually carry out the vigilante justice in this case? Its the police not having the resources and being powerless which is allowing these thugs to roam the streets having their turf wars. Just how are a group of good people going to get hold of guns to give the thugs a taste of their own medicine?

[lindylou]

I'd be all for a vigilante. :PDT11


At a meeting recently, someone suggested that everyone should club together and hire a security outfit to guard our streets.


remember those Americans that came here - think it was 1980s ?? The guardian angels or something like that. They wore a uniform of some sort and were on the London trains in particular.

[shytalk]

I'd be all for a vigilante. :PDT11


At a meeting recently, someone suggested that everyone should club together and hire a security outfit to guard our streets.


remember those Americans that came here - think it was 1980s ?? The guardian angels or something like that. They wore a uniform of some sort and were on the London trains in particular.


You already hire a security outfit, THE POLICE. You pay a fortune in taxes to provide them yet you get little in return. The worst thing ever to happen was the system of giving a case number to verify things are reported but no action taken, scrap this idea immediately.
Make the chief constable responsible for his actions or lack thereof. Make the job an elected position if necessary so he can be voted out, This would ensure that they earned their high salary.
Someone needs to start a website to get things changed. Having seen the way not just Liverpool has gone but the whole country I would do this if I knew how. I understand why people are afraid to speak out, this would be a way to get things changed without risk.
Another thing that needs to be scrapped is the ASBO, another do gooders mistake, yobs wear it as a badge of honour, this isn't anything new, kids did this when I was a kid in the 50's. Bragging that they were 'Up for GBH etc.' to appear to be hard.
Regarding the 'Guardian Angels', they are a political group who have stood up against anti-social behaviour, they are mostly in the New York area I think but do travel to help out elsewhere. I don't think this would be the best way to solve the problem, some people taking part might get out of hand and get themselves in trouble and create a bad reputation for the whole group.

[Paul D]

Another thing that needs to be scrapped is the ASBO, another do gooders mistake, yobs wear it as a badge of honour,

Wearing a tag has the same effect.:disgust:

[chippie]

Luke, wear yer bullet proof duffle bag mate. I know a lass that lives your way and she,s a threat on the streets of Anfield. She carries a bulldog around with her wherever she goes, watch out for her. Goes by the name of lindylou, she,ll steal the lolipops from yer inside pocket while yer blinking.:D

I was taken round Berlin to a place I was looking for by the guardian angels. I only asked the way and a troupe took me and showed me where it was. Decent sort of guys I thought at the time.:ninja:

[Ernie]

Norrisgreen again, I live the bottom end of Scargreen Avenue, east lanc"s end. The top end is the Strand,all very quiet and peaceful,good police patrols
all the time. The murder happened by Altcross,and the people they have for
it are from Croxteth and Speke according to the Echo.

[Kev]

THE construction of New Anfield (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5223) will kick-start one of the biggest regeneration projects north Liverpool has seen.

It will come as a relief to residents, who have waited years for pledges of huge amounts of investment to become reality.

To make up for the loss of a section of Stanley Park, millions of pounds will be pumped into the rest of the Victorian park.

Buildings, statues and fountains will be restored, gardens replanted and a new lake created to turn the park back into a destination for families.

The Grade II-listed Isla Gladstone conservatory will be transformed into north Liverpool’s version of Sefton Park’s Palm House, catering for weddings and other special events.

Once New Anfield (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5223) opens in August 2010, the current ground will be bulldozed to make way for Anfield Plaza, a public square surrounded by shops, restaurants and flats.

It is highly likely to include the present Anfield pitch as its centrepiece.

A community partnership centre (CPC) will open within the stadium, housing Liverpool FC’s community development unit, an education facility and Vernon Sangster sports centre’s replacement.

The old Vernon Sangster had to make way for the new ground and has temporarily moved to Anfield youth club.

Big changes to housing and transport around Anfield are also planned.

Keith Watson, Liverpool council’s special initiatives manager, said: “Different people have come in with different ideas about the stadium, but it remains the major contributor to Anfield’s regeneration.

“After years of uncertainty, we are within touching distance of a clear statement on the future of the area and the park.

“We are still working on the basic concept for Anfield Plaza, which has outline planning permission.

“Once the stadium issues are resolved, we think the club’s owners will turn their attentions to Anfield Plaza.”

Transport bosses are working on improvements to help 60,000 fans get to the stadium for each game, an increase of 15,000 per matchday.

As well as modernising pavements and pedestrian crossings, Merseytravel is committed to the future of Soccerbus, which takes 3% of fans from railway stations to Anfield.

The organisation is also seriously investigating whether to reopen Bootle branch line, currently used by freight, to passenger trains again.

Neil Scales, chief executive of Merseytravel, said: “We have identified three potential sites for a new station and have designed one able to take vast crowds, basically like Aintree.

“It would need wide platforms and a bridge so 1,000 people could get off a train and have no problems getting to where they want to be.

“If we tied it into the network properly, you could get to Anfield directly from Wigan and St Helens, and most importantly Lime Street.”

IC Liverpool

[AK1]

This has been long awaited by the local community and the wider city. It's great to finally hear some positive news regarding anfield. Does this mean though that no regeneration will happen until the stadium is finished, or can some of it begin when the stadium starts being built?

[wallasey]

Anfield has had a small Flickr update; It was in need of one I think!

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1281/1039715506_6d898c2987_o.jpg
Stanley Park Avenue South (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liverpoolsuburbia/1039715506/)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1309/1039713036_6b3add6f1f_o.jpg
Utting Avenue (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liverpoolsuburbia/1039713036/in/set-72157601064735632/)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1027/1039701526_889252d1ef_o.jpg
Pinehust Avenue (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liverpoolsuburbia/1039701526/in/set-72157601064735632)

Theres 20 other images from around Anfield for your viewing pleasure.

Enjoy! :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

[lindylou]

Very nice photos :)

It is nice down Pinehurst ave.

[wallasey]

Very nice photos :)

It is nice down Pinehurst ave.

Thanks Lindylou! I must admit, that image of Pinehust Avenue is one of the best I've taken this year. Hoping others will like it too!

[Gerard]

Nice piccies Wallasey :handclap:

[robbo176]

great photos Wallasey, that one of Pinehurst Ave is a good one:PDT11

[chippie]

I,ll second, third and fourth that, lovely photos of a lovely place where lovely people live.:hug:

[bri47]

those kids who killed that young lad in everton this week need hanging .when is this goverment going to do something ,,bring back the bobby on the beat

[lindylou]

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I noticed yesterday the graded buildings by the Cabbage Hall are covered in netting - - I hope they are not going to demolish them

as far as I know they are Grade 2 listed and date back to 1700's I think.
Isn't it the original Cabbage Hall ??
Will post a picture soon - I 've got one somewhere.

I did hear a rumour that they were going to develop the site into apartments - looks like this is going to happen.

Surely they won't pull down that building ?? - because under the render which covers the frontage there is the original sandstone, which I believe can be seen from the back too. They could make the existing building into apartments without demolition.


ps,

look on page 3 of this thread, (post no. 44) the 1st attachment is a pic of the building in question.
The one with the white render.

[PhilipG]

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I noticed yesterday the graded buildings by the Cabbage Hall are covered in netting - - I hope they are not going to demolish them

as far as I know they are Grade 2 listed and date back to 1700's I think.
Isn't it the original Cabbage Hall ??
Will post a picture soon - I 've got one somewhere.

I did hear a rumour that they were going to develop the site into apartments - looks like this is going to happen.

Surely they won't pull down that building ?? - because under the render which covers the frontage there is the original sandstone, which I believe can be seen from the back too. They could make the existing building into apartments without demolition.


ps,

look on page 3 of this thread, (post no. 44) the 1st attachment is a pic of the building in question.
The one with the white render.

Are they actually on Breck Road?
If so, they're not Listed (unless they've been Listed in the last couple of years).

This is all there is for Breck road:
* April 14, 1975 II Breck Road Church of Holy Trinity
* April 14, 1975 II Breck Road L5 Richmond Baptist Church

I think I'll make this my signature:
"Never assume a building is Listed, because it probably isn't."

[chippie]

I remember that story abot those buildings being in the Echo quite a while back. I thought they were grade two, looks like now they are Lew Grade instead.

[lindylou]

I can't say for sure but I did hear that they are listed. Could be wrong. They are very old anyway. As far as I understand - this was the original Cabbage Hall Inn.Someone just told me that they spoke to the workmen and the building is to be demolished :shock:

I can't imagine Breck rd without those buildings :sad:
Have a look at the attachment - although the bays are not on the existing building, you can see the general shape hasn't changed and the chimmney pots are the same.
Someone scanned this pic to me - don't know the source of the pic - but I just want to show you the old Cabbage Hall.

[PhilipG]

I can't say for sure but I did hear that they are listed. Could be wrong. They are very old anyway. As far as I understand - this was the original Cabbage Hall Inn

Someone just told me that they spoke to the workmen and the building is to be demolished :shock:

I can't imagine Breck rd without those buildings :sad:
Have a look at the attachment - although the bays are not on the existing building, you can see the general shape hasn't changed and the chimmney pots are the same.
Someone scanned this pic to me - don't know the source of the pic - but I just want to show you the old Cabbage Hall.
I don't think the present buildings are the same as the drawing.
The two blocks are obviously from the same period.
At a rough guess, I'd say not much earlier than the 1840s.
Having said all that, I don't know much about the Cabbage Hall area.

[lindylou]

Far too many of the better buildings have been ripped out of Anfield. There are too few of the lovely big houses remaining now. :(
The big houses along Anfield rd are being destroyed for the new LFC plans.
The lovely villas of Breckside Park are being demolished one by one - the road was once lined with these big houses and now only 3 or 4 remain. I think maybe 2 are still occupied, and the other is an old age home, (you can see how beautiful the villas were) : Breckside Park attchments.

The last straw is to see that they are now going to demolish those old sandstone houses (or at least one block of them) on Breck rd. :angry:

[Ged]

Abbey Lawns old peoples home, over the road from the King Harry is a very grand building.

[lindylou]

Abbey Lawns old peoples home, over the road from the King Harry is a very grand building.

Years ago it used to be a girls school.

[lindylou]

Far too many of the better buildings have been ripped out of Anfield. There are too few of the lovely big houses remaining now. :(
The big houses along Anfield rd are being destroyed for the new LFC plans.
The lovely villas of Breckside Park are being demolished one by one - the road was once lined with these big houses and now only 3 or 4 remain. I think maybe 2 are still occupied, and the other is an old age home, (you can see how beautiful the villas were) : Breckside Park attchments.

The last straw is to see that they are now going to demolish those old sandstone houses (or at least one block of them) on Breck rd. :angry:

here's the empty spaces where the Anfield rd houses once stood. :(

[ChrisGeorge]

here's the empty spaces where the Anfield rd houses once stood. :(


I lived in one of 'em when I was a toddler. :(

[lindylou]

Did you Chris :shock:

you should have mentioned it before, and I would have taken a photo of the house before it was demolished.

.. come to think of it - I should have photographed all the houses anyway for posterity.

[steveb]

Did you Chris :shock:

you should have mentioned it before, and I would have taken a photo of the house before it was demolished.

.. come to think of it - I should have photographed all the houses anyway for posterity.

This is true :-), tell me, why don't you use Photobucket to host
your pics as the ones you attache are so small, average 4k

[lindylou]

hi Steve, I use photobucket for more detailed pics - but as these particular ones are of just wasteground and not much to see - I reduced them in size to save space. More interesting pics and I post larger. :)

[steveb]

hi Steve, I use photobucket for more detailed pics - but as these particular ones are of just wasteground and not much to see - I reduced them in size to save space. More interesting pics and I post larger. :)

Hi

Ok fine no probs, got another camera now a canon 350d so have
the 3, the Nikon D50, Fuji S9500 and the 350d, so watch this space :-)

[lindylou]

I can't say for sure but I did hear that they are listed. Could be wrong. They are very old anyway. As far as I understand - this was the original Cabbage Hall Inn.Someone just told me that they spoke to the workmen and the building is to be demolished :shock:

I can't imagine Breck rd without those buildings :sad:
Have a look at the attachment - although the bays are not on the existing building, you can see the general shape hasn't changed and the chimmney pots are the same.
Someone scanned this pic to me - don't know the source of the pic - but I just want to show you the old Cabbage Hall.

(scroll up to post no.88 to see the old cabbage Hall).

They've gone !! :angry: :sad:

[lindylou]

They wouldn't do this if it was a more 'affluent' part of the city :angry:

I wonder if they'd demolish any of Wooton villages old houses !! ??

these sandstone houses are a part of Anfield and I can't understand why they have done this. The buildings are not structually unsound and they could be renovated accordingly.

Well, it's too late now. :( They are going to build some modern 'apartments' -- FLATS they mean ! :rolleyes:

[ChrisGeorge]

They wouldn't do this if it was a more 'affluent' part of the city :angry:

I wonder if they'd demolish any of Wooton villages old houses !! ??

these sandstone houses are a part of Anfield and I can't understand why they have done this. The buildings are not structually unsound and they could be renovated accordingly.

Well, it's too late now. :( They are going to build some modern 'apartments' -- FLATS they mean ! :rolleyes:


Disgusting!!! It makes me heartsick whenever something like this happens. :(

Lindy, thanks also for saying you would have taken a pic of my old house on Anfield Road prior to it being demolished if you'd have known I had lived there. I appreciate that. I am not certain of the address but it was on Anfield Road opposite LFC's Anfield Road stand (of course) but closer (I think) to the Main stand than the Kemlyn Road stand though I might be wrong. :rolleyes:

Chris :PDT_Xtremez_12:

[lindylou]

I was told that there was originally a bigger row of these sandstone houses - (probably where the Co-Op funeral place is now).

Opposite is Holy Trinity church, Breck rd. the church is built in the same red brick.
I am told that anything pre 1840 is automatically listed Grade 2, so I don't know why these houses have been ignored.
The one remaining block is still in it's original state, but the other one could have been renovated by having all that horrible white plaster removed and for the sandstone to be restored. :002:

[PhilipG]

I was told that there was originally a bigger row of these sandstone houses - (probably where the Co-Op funeral place is now).

Opposite is Holy Trinity church, Breck rd. the church is built in the same red brick.
I am told that anything pre 1840 is automatically listed Grade 2, so I don't know why these houses have been ignored.
The one remaining block is still in it's original state, but the other one could have been renovated by having all that horrible white plaster removed and for the sandstone to be restored. :002:

English Heritage can only List buildings if they know they exist.

BTW.
I'm going to the Town Hall on Tuesday to object to the proposed demolition of the former Bedford Cinema in Walton.
Wish me luck.

[chippie]

I,m sorry that they have gone too. I hope who sanction them to be demolished has four boils up his bum for three years. That should sort him, or her, out.

I lived opposite to those, or that building and will miss them next time I go up there, which should be very soon, if I can find my walking stick that is.:)

Sorry Lindy, I commiserate with you, does this create a new brickfields? (private joke)

[lindylou]

English Heritage can only List buildings if they know they exist.

BTW.
I'm going to the Town Hall on Tuesday to object to the proposed demolition of the former Bedford Cinema in Walton.
Wish me luck.

Philip, I do wish you luck regarding Bedford rd.
There was a letter about the cinema in the paper this week - might have been in the Echo or the free paper, I can't remember where I read it, the person mentioned that there is a dome still intact, and they reckon that the building could be restored to some of it's former glory.
I do hope this happens.



What is so sad about the Breck rd sandstone houses, is that they will be replaced by some cheap flats. :(

I saw a similar thing happen down Townsend lane; an old building which was formerly a little school or chapel ( I'm not exactly sure which it was, but I know that it existed late 1800's or very early 1900's) - they demolished it and have built horrible flats which were advertised as 'apartments' ( which makes me smile!) - the flats were built very recently, approx 2 years ago, if that.
They were victim of anti-social behaviour and vandalism, they are now an eyesore already - - I will take a photo next time I am passing.

To think that they took away that old building, which was a little local landmark - to put rubbish in it's place. :disgust:
Well, I can see the same thing happening by the Cabbage Hall.

[lindylou]

What is so sad about the Breck rd sandstone houses, is that they will be replaced by some cheap flats. :(

I saw a similar thing happen down Townsend lane; an old building which was formerly a little school or chapel ( I'm not exactly sure which it was, but I know that it existed late 1800's or very early 1900's) - they demolished it and have built horrible flats which were advertised as 'apartments' ( which makes me smile!) - the flats were built very recently, approx 2 years ago, if that.
They were victim of anti-social behaviour and vandalism, they are now an eyesore already - - I will take a photo next time I am passing.

To think that they took away that old building, which was a little local landmark - to put rubbish in it's place. :disgust:
Well, I can see the same thing happening by the Cabbage Hall.



tatty flats replaced the old schoolhouse. One of the flats was smashed up not so long ago. The door kicked in and the windows broken with the blinds flapping out in the wind :disgust: :disgust:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/rubinda/PB180001.jpg

[Ged]

Needs his ballcock fixing.

[ChrisGeorge]

English Heritage can only List buildings if they know they exist.

BTW.
I'm going to the Town Hall on Tuesday to object to the proposed demolition of the former Bedford Cinema in Walton.
Wish me luck.

Go for it, Philip, hope you get some results. :PDT11

Chris

[chippie]

That photee Lindy of the flats, they want more that their ballcocks seen too. I,d rather have had the little chapel with the woodworker in it anyday, saints preserve us. (as they say in Scottie)

[chippie]

More power to your elbow Philip. If all else fails, nudge them.:shock:

[Waterways]

tatty flats replaced the old schoolhouse. One of the flats was smashed up not so long ago. The door kicked in and the windows broken with the blinds flapping out in the wind :disgust: :disgust:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/rubinda/PB180001.jpg

There is no need for these overflows and they should be removed. From Jan 2001, overflows can be integrated into the toilets, which means it overflows down the toilet. A new siphon, costing £12 is all that is needed.

[Ged]

No, not a Heinz advert...

According to Radio Merseyside news, bricks have fallen from a building on Lower Breck Road.

[wallasey]

Who has been round Arkles Lane recently??? What have the council done to a road that used to be quite attractive??? I was along there this evening and can I just say, it hasn't been improved one iota.

It wasn't broke...so who decided to try and fix it?

[Cubert]

I love the Albert. Remember going in there one match day with my Ma and daring to ask for a red wine, the response was to the point "Wine? We don't sell wine" double brandy was what she got :)
Incidentally, my Ma was the Arkles barmaid for quite a while during the 60's and has told me how they used to have to turn off the Guinness on a match day because it took too long to pour! :)

Jack Allison would of been manager in the 60's in the Arkles , my family may know your Mum if she was a barmaid then.

[George]

I live in Anfield. Someone got stabbed the other day outside the Oakfield pub and I hear someone got axed near Thirlmere Road.

Ya can't blame the wife. after all he was cheating on her.

Well he was bound to lose his job...he had his hand in the till.

[lindylou]

Ambrose Grove, L6.

This is an interesting road as it is cobbled and has a varied mixture of house styles, ie; an old Victorian sandstone house, large terraced houses and some semi-detached with gardens, also some 'modern' - probably 1960's flats.


Edit.
I just added another pic. Had another look today and noticed I'd overlooked another sandstone house tucked aside the newer flats.

[Ged]

Great pics Lindy.

[Spike]

I don't know why they bother.
The park will just be full of bloody junkies and foreigners within weeks.
Bloody foreigners, bloody junkies!

Bloody newbies joining here and saying Bloody :disgust:

Ainfield? where is that?

I take it you are at peace with the world at present :)

[pablo42]

I don't know why they bother.
The park will just be full of bloody junkies and foreigners within weeks.
Bloody foreigners, bloody junkies!

Jeez Mary, who are these foreigners?