Cinema

[George]

The Grand,Smithdown Road....

[George]

Mersey Tunnel 1930's....

[George]

some more...thats ye lot...cheeky blighters....:)

Princess Dock
Beacon Lane
Heyworth St
Church St
Heyworth St

Dunno about the last one?

[lindylou]

Thanks George, Funny to see Church st with traffic :)

[George]

Funny to see Church st with traffic

1966

[scouse smurf]

George, as cool as those photos are. Just gotta ask where the cinemas are on them ?

[George]

George, as cool as those photos are. Just gotta ask where the cinemas are on them ?

Er....it say Cinema ie as in 1 Cinema...anyway I've given you two for the price of one,so eat cake. :razz:

[George]

Somebody should have told him the airports in Speke....

[George]

Church Street again,more oless the same years ie 1960's

The second pic is unmistakable.

[George]

Twomore....

Lord Street and Ithinkthe last one is also Lord Street?....

[Ged]

Dunno about the last one?

That's where Scotland Road becomes Stanley Road near Youngs which is No.1 Stanley Road.


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[wsteve55]

Excellent pic's George,me ma,used to live in Heyworth st!:nod:

[George]

More pics for your Arsenal,Ged.

[Ronijayne]

Great pics

[Ged]

More pics for your Arsenal,Ged.

Got them thanks ;)

[George]

Got them thanks

Did you see the Tommy whites demolition ones? last postin there? :PDT11

[Ged]

Yes, they were on MyL a while back thanks.

[George]

This is around the falkner street area,but what was the name of those tennies in the background? I'm thinking Myrtel Gardens?

[Ged]

Yes. I think i've seen that pic on the Pearsons site or book or somewhere. Tis a good un'.

[gregs dad]

Somebody should have told him the airports in Speke....

Thats the police box I occupied when Liverpool brought the cup back in 1965 to take my pics

http://www.flickr.com/photos/exacta2a/sets/72157600357855719/

[gregs dad]

That's where Scotland Road becomes Stanley Road near Youngs which is No.1 Stanley Road.


.
The wall on the left of the picture was were an emergency water supply tank was during the second world war. Liverpool had quite a few of these dotted around the city. I haven`t noticed any old pics of these E W S tanks anywhere.

[George]

more....there is one pic I have yet to come across and thats a pic of the flower bed clock in Stanley Park...remember it was a working clock as well.

Clayton Square,County Road,BandStand Stanley Park,Robson Street,St Domingo Road,Scotland Road,Breck Road,PierHead,London Road and LimeStreetWest Derby road by Brouham Terrace.

[scouse smurf]

Brilliant pics, George :)

[George]

Wonder what building that London Rd/Lime St pic was taken at that height and so close?

[wsteve55]

Great pic's George,but I can't get my bearings on the Lime st. one! Any clues?

[George]

The pub on the corner was the "Legs of man" pub,to the left of the pic is Commutation Row.

[scouse smurf]

What's the stadium at the back of the lime st photo ?

[George]

What's the stadium at the back of the lime st photo ?Ain't got a clue? I'm sure Lime Street train stations Paraphet extended to where that sloping roof was? this was about 1910/1920? as the corner of commutation row lost two buildings there during the war years.

Just took a nosey on Geds site and he has this pic but smaller than I've posted it and it musta been taken on the st georges column that has now gone and replaced with the water fountain.

[Quentin_Sharples]

Great photos, George.
The Lime Street one (showing London Road) must have been taken from the Wellington Column.
The Stadium was called just that.
Built about 1911 as a skating rink, it became a boxing stadium a few years later.
It was replaced by the Paramount/Odeon cinema on that site (1934) and by Britain's only purpose-built boxing stadium in St Paul's Square (1932).

[wsteve55]

The pub on the corner was the "Legs of man" pub,to the left of the pic is Commutation Row.

Right,I can see it now,but the direction of that large roof doesn't seem to fit??

[wsteve55]

Great photos, George.
The Lime Street one (showing London Road) must have been taken from the Wellington Column.
The Stadium was called just that.
Built about 1911 as a skating rink, it became a boxing stadium a few years later.
It was replaced by the Paramount/Odeon cinema on that site (1934) and by Britain's only purpose-built boxing stadium in St Paul's Square (1932).

Problem solved! Thanks Quentin,never heard about that stadium,though,unless the name was confused with the other one!?

[scouse smurf]

the curved one ? It's the old Pudsey St Stadium.... Only know coz I've spent the last 10 mins trying to find out what it was

http://www.liverpoolboxing.co.uk/location/heritage/page_frame.htm

[hmtmaj]

The wall on the left of the picture was were an emergency water supply tank was during the second world war. Liverpool had quite a few of these dotted around the city. I haven`t noticed any old pics of these E W S tanks anywhere.

Try Spikes site for a few here:
http://liverpoolremembrance.weebly.com/blitz-photos-3.html

[Sirob]

here is the Stanley Park clock

[lindylou]

George, that 2nd picture - County rd - I can't recognise at all, yet I know County rd well. I can't make out where the road and pavement curves around like where the people are walking.
Could do with a then & now comparison.

edit.

false alarm :) I think I can make it out now. I've recognised that turret over by Arnot st ! :)

I couldn't make out which direction we were looking from.

[George]

Could do with a then & now comparison.Then you don't know county road well enough then :-) County DIY you know the road at the traffic lights,see the stone bus stop? well thats where Tesco's(AkA Sommerfields) is,the clock hanging on the wall is the funeral parlour.

[lindylou]

yes, I know now :) opposite the library.

[Quentin_Sharples]

Is that Hale Road off to the right?

[George]

I couldn't make out which direction we were looking from.

Lol,well the sign says Manchester so therefore the pic musta been taken towards walton road way. :)

When looking at old pics observe specific landmarks that you might recognise that are still evident today

[George]

StAnne Street...

[George]

And again at the Islington end,funny that never seen pics of Islington itself...anywhere?

[George]

Everton Valley before the old houses got demolished,my doctors was here on the coner...waiting room was in the cellar.

[wsteve55]

Good pic's George.....where are you getting them all from?????

[George]

Shaw Street 1950's

Heyworth Street School 1967

[George]

Ok lets get this one sorted out here,below is a pic ofEverton Brow and I have seen many a pic depicting the park and Brow side saying its Everton Brow...IT IS NOT EVERTON BROW...its Brow Side.

Everton Brow ran from Shaw street(opposite side of BrowSide)right down to Richmond Row....

And here it is....

[Ged]

EWS tanks and Islington on my site. Pfft - not seen them anywhere. The lone walker is walking down Seacombe street towards the shops on Great Homer Street, the tower of Schofield's lemonade factory on Dalrymple street on the right, the shops on Scottie in the distance - no mystery even though the photographer, Bernard Fallon has it as otherwise ;)

Pic in post 43 belongs to Sirob, most of the rest (if not all) are LRO.

[George]

Sure its notPince Edwin Street,Ged?

Never the less the point was that anything the other side of Shaw Street is shaw steet park or brow side and is not Everton Brow.

[George]

The street view pic is Everton Brow,the second pic is not Everton Brow its Brow Side and the park is Shaw Street Park.

[George]

between 1950 and 1965

Bullring
whitechapel
whitechapel
lime st

[George]

Where's this one?

[George]

Islington on my site. PfftI'm talking Soho street aea,Ged ie bottom of Stafford Street.

I used to work in Edmondson(Full swing lemonade) and got off the bus on london road a nd walked down stafford street and right down Soho Street to get to the place of work from the back entrance ie Birkette Street.
Anyway for the life of me cannot remember what was on Islington in that area and the only buildings that spring to mind is the four squares(Gardens) on or near Soho Street.

[George]

Hhaha,just spotted a fully wagon on Soho St in the clip.


http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=73885

[Ged]

The street view pic is Everton Brow,the second pic is not Everton Brow its Brow Side and the park is Shaw Street Park.

It's not Shaw Street Park. Shaw st park (officially Whitley Gardens) is well further south. ;)

[Ged]

[QUOTE=George;274932]Sure its notPince Edwin Street,Ged?[QUOTE]

Positive.

[Ged]

between 1950 and 1965

Not the bullring but Gerard Gardens.

[George]

:61:

[Ged]

Great pics though. Keep em' coming. :)

[Samp]

Ok lets get this one sorted out here,below is a pic ofEverton Brow and I have seen many a pic depicting the park and Brow side saying its Everton Brow...IT IS NOT EVERTON BROW...its Brow Side.

Everton Brow ran from Shaw street(opposite side of BrowSide)right down to Richmond Row....

And here it is....


This picture is not Everton Brow, I think it is further along Netherfield Rd going towards the Valley. You could be looking down towards Great Homer St, The tower on the right of the Street opposite looks like Schofields Lemonade Factory.


Sorry Ged! I have just noticed your post below this one, I have just repeated What you have said.

[Samp]

Where's this one?

This picture is looking up Eastbourne St from The top of William Henry St, Shaw St Park is just across the rd. You can see this position on the earlier photo with the two young girls, the same lamp is also in that one.

[Samp]

The street view pic is Everton Brow,the second pic is not Everton Brow its Brow Side and the park is Shaw Street Park.

Not quite true George, Browside was the section of road that ran from Netherfield Rd at Anne Fowlers up towards Rupert Lane and the intersection of Everton Terrace. The steps along side the lockup are also called Browside on earlier pictures. The second picture is also Everton Brow, look at earlier maps of Everton. The little park is not Shaw St that is further along (see your own photographs).

[Matthew]

Lyric Thearter,Everton Valley

George, everyone wants to know where you get your great photos, well at least one of them is from my website and even has my watermark on it. Worse than that though the photo was loaned to me from the British Music Hall Society which is clearly credited underneath the photo on my site. Right Click protection didn't stop you either, nor did you consider simply asking me for permission, which i do usually grant providing my site is clearly credited and a Link back is given. I understand this is an enthusiasts blog and that you all love the photos but please, don't just take them from other sites without asking or you get all the credit and we don't even get a thank you for all the work we put into our own sites.

[Quentin_Sharples]

George, everyone wants to know where you get your great photos, well at least one of them is from my website and even has my watermark on it. Worse than that though the photo was loaned to me from the British Music Hall Society which is clearly credited underneath the photo on my site. Right Click protection didn't stop you either, nor did you consider simply asking me for permission, which i do usually grant providing my site is clearly credited and a Link back is given. I understand this is an enthusiasts blog and that you all love the photos but please, don't just take them from other sites without asking or you get all the credit and we don't even get a thank you for all the work we put into our own sites.

Hi, Matthew.
It is a great photo and the clearest I've seen and due credit should have been given.
One of the photos on your site has been credited to the photographer, but I know he wasn't asked.

[scouse smurf]

Matthew, no matter where it came from it's an excellent pic that alot of us haven't seen. Post a link to ur site so we can have a nose at ur others

[Matthew]

Matthew, no matter where it came from it's an excellent pic that alot of us haven't seen. Post a link to ur site so we can have a nose at ur others

Well I'm glad that more people have seen it and you can find out more about the pace on my site here http://www.arthurlloyd.co.uk/Liverpool/LyricTheatreLiverpool.htm I hope that you find my site of interest.

[Matthew]

If you would let me know which one I will look into it. i go to a lot of effort to get permission to use the images on my site but sometimes it isn't possible to track the copywrite holder down.

[George]

but sometimes it isn't possible to track the copywrite holder down.Then you shouldn'tbe using it then.

pot kettle spring to mind.

Your logo stamp has intervened also with copyright law ie you have defaced the photographs of the official photographers work.

I gave you the credit the meer fact I left your site logo on the pic,I was contemplating on removing it but at least I gave people the honour of knowing where it came from.

What you see on the intenet can be had, you cannot protect what is shown and that is fact.
There are three ways to save a picture no matter how you try to protect it.

I'd just like to take the oppertunity to say thank you to the person who scurried to Mathews site and let him know one of his pics has been posted on Yo. :handclap:

[George]

George, everyone wants to know where you get your great photos, well at least one of them is from my website and even has my watermark on it.You will see I have taken the liberty to ask Kev to kindly remove the pic of the thearter from this thread as it was from your site,no big deal really it was just a pic.

Right click security is a gimmick and does not work ie before Firefox made its appearence on the web and only IE(Explorer) was the norm,for every page you visited on the net all the contents where in the IE cache folder,sifting through this can locate any pic or data and can be saved,however since the introduction of Firefox has made it simpler just by going to "Tools/Page Info/Media" another approach is "Print Screen" and load it into a paint program as "new from scratchboard"

Don't think for one minute that implementing a command line in your page script can stop people from saving pictures because it is not possible to do so,whats out there can be saved.

Thank you Kev.

[Matthew]

You will see I have taken the liberty to ask Kev to kindly remove the pic of the thearter from this thread as it was from your site,no big deal really it was just a pic.

Thank you Kev.

George and Kev, Thanks for removing the image, appreciated. Matthew.

[Ged]

EWS tanks and Islington on my site. Pfft - not seen them anywhere. The lone walker is walking down Seacombe street towards the shops on Great Homer Street, the tower of Schofield's lemonade factory on Dalrymple street on the right, the shops on Scottie in the distance - no mystery even though the photographer, Bernard Fallon has it as otherwise ;)

Pic in post 43 belongs to Sirob, most of the rest (if not all) are LRO.


George. We appreciate the photos, we really do, however I do see both sides of the argument and I did aspire to alerting you to real owners of some of the photos in this post here. It is only common courtesy after all. There are one or two people who quite rightly would be annoyed if you posted any pics from their site up as they may have been given permission to show them on their sites ONLY.

[johnny blue]

Great pieces of photographic history , thanks to all .

[Sirob]

George. We appreciate the photos, we really do, however I do see both sides of the argument and I did aspire to alerting you to real owners of some of the photos in this post here. It is only common courtesy after all. There are one or two people who quite rightly would be annoyed if you posted any pics from their site up as they may have been given permission to show them on their sites ONLY.

I have kept up with this thread and i feel that Ged has a point, as does George.
Having posted hundreds of my own pics on Yo!, I am happy for anyone to copy them. They are mine, so no probs.
George posted some very good pictures, but did not credit them, thus leaving himself open to a charge of piracy.
Ged is right in that some websites have permission to put photographs on their site only, i have tried to obtain pics from certain sites, only to be told this.
There is one firm with an ace collection of Liverpool stuff, but it sells prints and regularly monitors forums for infringements!
As it is impossible to protect anything on the web, the only thing is not to post it if you do not want it to be copied. Nobody is any the wiser if you 'capture' something for your own use, but if it appears on the web again, you do not know who is looking! This is what I think happened here. I had a bad do some time ago, when I posted a pic that I had been given on a technical forum. It was not long before someone wanted reproduction fees!!!!
To sum up, I think caution is the only way and to credit stuff. I now say if thre's any doubt then leave it out.
Thanks George for an interesting thread.

[George]

Awhile ago we were on about the bogs in the streets...well....

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.petersheils.com/USERIMAGES/townsend-lane.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.petersheils.com/Now-and-Then-Gallery(734634).htm&usg=__vBLWjCw3KD82qjMUnfp2OKBhX44=&h=339&w=900&sz=82&hl=en&start=5&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=BtcGNH7gKw9UDM:&tbnh=55&tbnw=146&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtownsend%2Blane%2Bliverpool%26um%3D1% 26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26channel%3Ds%26tbs%3Disch:1

[George]

And the clock in colour this time....

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.petersheils.com/USERIMAGES/townsend-lane.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.petersheils.com/Now-and-Then-Gallery(734634).htm&usg=__vBLWjCw3KD82qjMUnfp2OKBhX44=&h=339&w=900&sz=82&hl=en&start=5&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=BtcGNH7gKw9UDM:&tbnh=55&tbnw=146&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtownsend%2Blane%2Bliverpool%26um%3D1% 26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26channel%3Ds%26tbs%3Disch:1

[George]

The copyYard...isthis the one you're on about Gedro?

http://www.petersheils.com/USERIMAGES/16.jpg

[kevin]

Well I'm glad that more people have seen it and you can find out more about the pace on my site here http://www.arthurlloyd.co.uk/Liverpool/LyricTheatreLiverpool.htm I hope that you find my site of interest.

Besides all the issues of copyright and common courtesy, when someone posts a picture we find interesting we're denied the opportunity to view more of the same ilk if no link is given to the original source. Thanks Matthew.

I don't think I've ever infringed copyright, but it is possibly I've done so inadvertantly at some time. Often there is no need. Found a photo of the Liverpool waterfront on a site once - it was an absolute stonker. It was on a photographers own site and I asked him if he minded me copying the picture to use as a desktop on my PC. Not only did he not mind, he told me the version on his site was reduced in file size, and actually sent me the full version of the photo as an attachment.
I'd tell you where to find the photo and who the photographer was, but when I moved jobs I left it on the PC and can no longer remember the photographers name.