View Full Version : 'Air raid' siren in South Liverpool?
Aunty J 11-28-2006, 04:21 PM There's a siren that sounds at 8.45am (every day - Sunday, bank holidays, Christms day.. the lot) in south Liverpool and it's driving me nuts trying to find out where it comes form. I've been told it could be Garston Tannery but that could be too far away but not impossilel with the wind in the right direction etc.
PLEASE does anybody know where it come from!
lindylou 11-28-2006, 04:37 PM Sorry, I havn't heard about this before.
There's a siren that sounds at 8.45am (every day - Sunday, bank holidays, Christms day.. the lot) in south Liverpool and it's driving me nuts trying to find out where it comes form. I've been told it could be Garston Tannery but that could be too far away but not impossilel with the wind in the right direction etc.
PLEASE does anybody know where it come from!
Embrace the air-raid siren, i've lived with it all my life and its never punctual, sometimes 9am, sometimes 9.05am...
A warm welcome :Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:
Aunty J 11-28-2006, 04:41 PM Thanks for the reply. I've looked in books, serched the net and asked all the more 'senior' people I know and all have drawn a blank.
It's comforting to hear every morning but as I said it's driving me nuts trying to find out whatthe hell it is.
Ta again
ChrisGeorge 11-28-2006, 04:43 PM Embrace the air-raid siren, i've lived with it all my life and its never punctual, sometimes 9am, sometimes 9.05am...
A warm welcome :Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:
Where's it coming from, Kev?
I was out at Otterspool a while ago and it sounded like it came from over the water somewhere, but that could have just been the sound carrying around on the wind or something. I've always wanted to find out its origin too :Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:
Aunty J 11-28-2006, 04:47 PM Kev, I knew you'd know the answer - you're quite a historian on the quite aren't you!
It used to be punctual at 9am every day and as time has gone by slipped to 8.45 am. That made me think it was something old that was timed and had lost time over the years
Where is it and why does it still sound?
Paul D 11-28-2006, 04:56 PM Hiya AJ.:)
sweetpatooti 11-28-2006, 08:59 PM This comes from Garston somewhere - I have lived here all my life and don't know where it comes from or why - like you say - it has gone from 9.00 to 8.45 over the years. Someone must set it off because it is never right to the minute but always around then. I have asked before on another thread if anyone knew. I just know I used to run to school when I heard it - but now my kids know they have got another 15 mins!!
Does it make Garston people angry?
sweetpatooti 11-30-2006, 08:14 PM No - we're just angry
Norm NZ 11-30-2006, 09:32 PM When I lived in Garston, it used to be the "bobbin Works Hooter"!!!:celb (23):
Aunty J 12-02-2006, 04:46 PM Hi guys,
Thanks for the replies, just goes to show how long it's been going for (no disrespect NormNZ) and that my original guess of it coming from Garston isn't too far off. Garston Tannery was along the river I seem to remember and kind of in a bay along from Otterspool. So maybe it would sound as if it came from across the river.
Was there an actual bobbin factory, would there be a need for it in that location? Are there other kinds apart from those used for sewing? Maybe... sewing hides together? Absolutly pure speculation.
Norm NZ 12-02-2006, 09:40 PM Hi guys,
Thanks for the replies, just goes to show how long it's been going for (no disrespect NormNZ) and that my original guess of it coming from Garston isn't too far off. Garston Tannery was along the river I seem to remember and kind of in a bay along from Otterspool. So maybe it would sound as if it came from across the river.
Was there an actual bobbin factory, would there be a need for it in that location? Are there other kinds apart from those used for sewing? Maybe... sewing hides together? Absolutly pure speculation.
"Guess I'm giving my age away"! No offence taken! and I've just had a thought! If the siren is from over the river, as Kev states, what about the 'Oil Refinery at Ellsmere Port' could be one of theirs. and 'Yes', the Bobbin Works is well known to all Garstonians, and remember! Lancashire was once a great cotton and woollen Mill area, the 'bobbins' were quite large wooden objects of various sizes. kids used them as toys in my younger days!!:celb (23):
PhilipG 12-02-2006, 09:56 PM "Guess I'm giving my age away"! No offence taken! and I've just had a thought! If the siren is from over the river, as Kev states, what about the 'Oil Refinery at Ellsmere Port' could be one of theirs. and 'Yes', the Bobbin Works is well known to all Garstonians, and remember! Lancashire was once a great cotton and woollen Mill area, the 'bobbins' were quite large wooden objects of various sizes. kids used them as toys in my younger days!!:celb (23):
Wasn't it called "Diabolo"?
You'd roll it along a skipping rope & throw it up & catch it with the rope?
Norm NZ 12-02-2006, 10:16 PM That was one of the uses Philip, but you could make all sots of toys with them! even a Yo-Yo!:celb (23):
Bunnyman 01-15-2007, 09:00 AM Hello folks. This morning I was woken up at arount 8:50 in my Wavertree flat by what sounded like an Air attack warning. Does anybody know what this sound is? When I lived in Garston, it was much more audible, and was heard on pretty much a daily basis. I was actually quite surprised to hear it this morning, and it set my mind racing.
It wasn't particularly loud in Wavertree, but as I am a notoriously light sleeper, it was still enough to wake me up. I used to assume it was the container crane on the sidings in Garston, but doubt it could be heard from such a distance.
Could anyone out there shed some light on what it may be, if it is indeed the same noise I'm hearing?
Cheers folks. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:
ChrisGeorge 01-15-2007, 10:32 AM Hello Bunnyman
As you see above, there has already been discussion of this phenomenon, so I moved your enquiry to this thread.
Chris
Bunnyman 01-15-2007, 11:39 AM Cheers Chris. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:
That's really weird. I put the words 'air raid siren' into the search function to see if it had been discussed before, and the only thread to pop up was about Church Street.
Don't know what happened there...
ChrisGeorge 01-15-2007, 12:07 PM Hi Bunnyman et al.
Got it fixed now! Actually you might not have found the original chat on the topic because it was in the "Introductions" area under "Driving Me Mad" so I am glad to now give the thread a more appropriate title and add your enquiry to the thread.
I am not sure though that anyone has come up with the answer as to where the siren is coming from. As you probably saw above, Kev thought it might even be coming from across the Mersey, and so it seems Ellesmere Port might be a possibility. Anybody else have any further thoughts on the matter?
Chris
Never heard no sirens In Wavertree?
Is there any 'flood alert' sirens on the river does anyone know ?
I'd hear a food alert siren If their was one though.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
PhilipG 01-15-2007, 01:31 PM Hi Bunnyman et al.
Got it fixed now! Actually you might not have found the original chat on the topic because it was in the "Introductions" area under "Driving Me Mad" so I am glad to now give the thread a more appropriate title and add your enquiry to the thread.
I am not sure though that anyone has come up with the answer as to where the siren is coming from. As you probably saw above, Kev thought it might even be coming from across the Mersey, and so it seems Ellesmere Port might be a possibility. Anybody else have any further thoughts on the matter?
Chris
I've never heard it here in the Dingle and wouldn't want it waking me up, but wouldn't Environmental Health know about it?
Perhaps one of our Garston residents could find out?
ChrisGeorge 01-18-2007, 04:58 PM Hi all
I asked me 86-year-old Mum if she remembered the morning siren in Garston. She used to live on Inwood Road in Garston when she was a girl. She didn't remember the siren but she did remember a sound that used to come from the Bryant and May factory on Speke Road on a Saturday, that she called "The Midday Cow" and that she said signaled the knocking off of the matchstick workers. Anybody else remember that?
One other thing while I think about it. Does anyone remember -- or does it still occur -- the one o'clock gun? Maybe we need another thread? Ha ha. :celb (6):
Chris
johnmed 01-18-2007, 06:44 PM Moved to Aigburth just over a year ago - Have heard this regularly; thought I was imagining things. Nice to know I'm not mad
aigburth_red 01-19-2007, 03:52 PM Hi,
I walk to st Michaels station every morning and here this quite often arounf that time, has been wrecking my head as to what it is as well!!
MissInformed 01-19-2007, 04:00 PM i have never heard this noise!
Has anyone contacted the council?
theninesisters 01-19-2007, 04:09 PM It'll be Kev's Mini with his Cherry Bomb exhaust :PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Could be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9YUodM5dII) :celb (23):
If a Mini drove at me and I punched the engine part just as It rides at me, It better fly Into the air.
Thats one farty engine.
MissInformed 01-20-2007, 10:30 AM Hi all
One other thing while I think about it. Does anyone remember -- or does it still occur -- the one o'clock gun? Maybe we need another thread? Ha ha. :celb (6):
Chris
I am pretty sure this doesn't occur anymore.
There is a whole chapter about it in a whittington egan book.
ChrisGeorge 01-20-2007, 06:46 PM I am pretty sure this doesn't occur anymore.
There is a whole chapter about it in a whittington egan book.
Hi Thanks, MissInformed
Thanks for the information that Richard Whittington Egan wrote about the one o'clock gun. We have started a new thread on the topic of the one o'clock gun. Go to "Do You Remember the One O'Clock Gun?" (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3233)
All my best
Chris
billo 01-20-2007, 07:55 PM I was told that it was Laird's shipyard that sounded the siren. Having lived in Aigburth for 20+ years I have always heard it, even on the weekend. Strangely when I was in a flat off Lark Lane(late 70's) it used to sound at 8.30 but now it's at 8.45.
There used to be another siren/whistle in or around Westminster Road,Kirkdale when I was growing up which was to let the workers know that they were late:)
Tockeyhead 03-20-2007, 07:15 PM The siren may have been set off as a prank.
They were sometimes hand cranked so someone could have took it from a shed etc.
http://www.ringbell.co.uk/ukwmo/siren.jpg
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