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A STUNNING £160m shopping, residential and leisure development that will change the face of Liverpool city centre was submitted to planners yesterday.
The scheme, behind Central Station, will include a residential tower rising from 22 storeys to 38 at its peak.
It will also include a three or four star hotel, shops and offices and 350 car parking spaces.
Joint developers Manchester-based Merepark and Irish firm Ballymore have handed plans for the 600,000 sq ft project to Liverpool City Council.
It will be bounded by Bold Street and Renshaw Street and encompasses Newington Street and Heathfield Street.
It will also include the £10m redevelopment of 9-19 Bold Street which has already been pre-let to clothing store Drome and Costa Coffee.
Both companies have held discussions with regeneration agencies Liverpool Vision and English Heritage, and the city council, and are confident the scheme will be approved. Work could begin early next summer.
English Heritage is believed to have some concerns about the height of the tower but it is not clear yet whether it will lodge an objection to the application.
Merepark director Richard Peel told the Daily Post: "This is a cutting-edge scheme which will further enhance Liverpool's appeal as a visitor destination and as a place to live.
"We have consulted extensively with Liverpool Vision, English Heritage, the Commission for Architecture and the Built Environment (CABE) and the city council and our application has taken on board much constructive input from them."
It looks very nice: Source (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16187401%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=towering%2dplan%2dto%2dtransform%2dthe% 2dcity-name_page.html)
Seems they'd have to already take away the existing car park behind central station.
I do like towers though.
Paul D
09-30-2005, 05:38 PM
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9664/central2kf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Here's an even better image of it.
Wow - yes please :thumbsup:
Scousemouse
09-30-2005, 06:51 PM
Is that a canal up Bold Street or am I mistaken? :cool:
Bit behind it don't look like Lewis's.
Nice pic though. :thumbsup:
Paul D
10-05-2005, 04:42 PM
Is that a canal up Bold Street or am I mistaken? :cool:
There will be so kind of water feature incorporated into the scheme and a new public square.
Paul D
10-06-2005, 03:38 PM
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Looks amazing. Be well chuffed if it actually happens!
Fantastic - looks amazing! :shock:
A £160m DEVELOPMENT planned for behind Liverpool's Central Station is in jeopardy after an apparent U-turn by city council planners. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16482551%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=tower%2dplan%2dset%2dto%2dtumble-name_page.html)
Well, we are used to these disappointments these days :rolleyes:
HERITAGE experts have been warned not to wreck a £160m plan to transform a derelict part of Liverpool city centre. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16512969%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=heritagerow%2dover%2d%2dpound%2d160m%2d city%2dcentre%2dtower%2dplans-name_page.html)
Which rope walks? The dock one?
Which rope walks? The dock one?
The area stretching from Duke Street to Bold Street is known as Ropewalks and is the focus of a £70 million investment package designed to bring the area back to life. RopeWalks is also home to Europe's oldest Chinatown which sprung up in the 19th century as more Chinese seaman passed through Liverpool's busy port. The Chinese Arch that is placed at the entrance to Chinatown is the largest in Britain.
http://www.liverpoolapartments.co.uk/images/ropewalks2.jpg
;)
I know about the Chinatown gate.:p
Theres no rope inthe walks though and that pic is that arena bar ain't it?
I know about the Chinatown gate.:p
Theres no rope inthe walks though and that pic is that arena bar ain't it?
'Rope walks', the term, referes to that area of town :p
No ropes or nothing though?:p
No ropes or nothing though?:p
No ropes :p
Why the hells it called ropewalks then?:p
Scousemouse
12-27-2005, 01:24 AM
Liverpool Ropewalks
The area grew during the 18th century, influenced by Britain’s colonial expansion and the Industrial Revolution. In 1715 the Corporation of Liverpool opened the world’s first commercial wet dock, and new merchant housing and dockside industries rapidly developed around it. Many of the area’s long straight streets were laid out as ropewalks, used to spin and twist the vast quantity of rope required to serve the shipping industry. During the 20th century traditional shipping industries declined, but their influence can still be seen in the warehouses, factories and merchant’s houses, which give the area around Bold Street and Duke Street its unique character.
Source (http://www.hlf.org.uk/English/InYourArea/NorthWest/CaseStudies/Liverpool.htm)
silverscouse
01-13-2006, 04:12 PM
I to like the proposed development but have certain reservations about this and other such developments.
1 I have a daughter who lives in one of these developments she and other
residents continualy say that its not more flats that are needed but the
infrastructure to go with it?
2 You only have to look around the city centre to see that there is an urgent lack of food store's school's and doctors, the developers and the council should sort this out before they build more high rise developments in Liverpool.
3 Finaly if you also look at the letting agencies around the city a lot of the flats are not taken because of the lack of infrastructure.
Have a nice day
They should be building less flats for Students!:rolleyes:
Schools are better on local areas near houses anyway and there is a ton of food stores in the city centre.
lindylou
01-16-2006, 02:57 PM
There are far too many flats for student accommodation.
It's good that a lot of new places were built or renovated for this purpose, but they went overboard and every possible nook and cranny is turned into students flats. I think they should stop now !
silverscouse
01-16-2006, 07:16 PM
They should be building less flats for Students!:rolleyes:
Schools are better on local areas near houses anyway and there is a ton of food stores in the city centre.
Hi Max
You may have got the wrong idea about my daughter she is not a student but a working young woman sorry if i mislead you or anyone else and as for the food stores what I meant to say was what is needed for the city centre is a BIG store like Asda etc the Tesco in Clayton Sq is just not big enough.
Silverscouse
Wormella
01-17-2006, 06:24 PM
and there is a ton of food stores in the city centre.
Actually - there isn't. I think the general hope it that more developments will push better inferstructure.
Little things like video rental and other such bits and bobs are really lacking.
A MAJOR £160m project planned for the site behind Liverpool's Central Station may finally go ahead after a compromise was reached between the developer and main objector English Heritage.
North West-based Central Regeneration submitted its plans for the site late last year, after two years of consultations with Liverpool City Council and regeneration agency Liverpool Vision.
It believed the city council would grant planning permission. However, in December English Heritage revealed it was objecting to the 38 storey tower at the heart of the project.
It claimed such an imposing structure would be detrimental to the nearby Ropewalks conservation area and to the view of the city's skyline.
This forced city council planners into a rethink and they indicated the application in its present form would be refused. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16814963%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=deal%2dpaves%2dway%2dfor%2d%2dpound%2d1 60m%2dcentral%2dstation%2dproject-name_page.html)
Actually - there isn't. I think the general hope it that more developments will push better inferstructure.
Little things like video rental and other such bits and bobs are really lacking.
Theres Tesco and an Iceland.:p
Plus loads of Subways being built very quick!:eek:
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LIVERPOOL'S £160m Central Village scheme now looks almost certain to go ahead after the developer agreed to lower the height of the 38-storey tower.
In a compromise deal, developer Central Regeneration has now proposed to build two smaller towers to replace the original 38-storey structure.
Two 25-storey and 20-storey towers will now be built. It is hoped this will satisfy the main objector, English Heritage, which was concerned about the impact the original design would have on the city's skyline.
The new design, unveiled yesterday, was put together following consultation with Liverpool City Council, Liverpool Vision, English Heritage and the Commission for Architecture and the Built Environment (CABE).
The rest of the 600,000 sq ft scheme will remain unchanged including the large areas of public realm and retail space. A planning application will now be submitted to the city council.
Central Regeneration - a collaboration between established developers Merepark and Ballymore - aims to create a mixed-use scheme that will include residential, retail and leisure space and a hotel.
Merepark director Richard Peel said: "Over the last few months we have had a very meaningful and productive dialogue with Liverpool City Council, English Heritage, CABE and Liverpool Vision to find a way forward which would be acceptable to all parties, while maintaining the commercial viability of the scheme and the positive effect it will have on the area.
"We have been very impressed with the professional approach and commitment from all interested parties including English Heritage, the city council and Liverpool Vision in working towards an improved solution.
"The revised plans are undoubtedly an improvement to the application and continue to mark a £160m investment in Liver pool."
When construction does finally get under way it will bring an end to a saga that has dragged on for nearly two years.
Ballymore acquired the site from Network Rail in 2002 and later put forward proposals for a £100m, 200,000 sq ft scheme,
featuring a 30-storey tower. However, English Heritage and Liverpool Vision were unhappy with the proposals and told the developer to revise its plan.
A further complication arose in 2004 when a legal dispute with Network Rail over "air rights" threatened to derail the project.
This was eventually settled and late last year Central Regeneration came up with a plan it believed would please all parties. However, English Heritage then lodged its objection leading the city council to indicate it would not pass the plan.
Yesterday Liverpool Vision welcomed the revised plans. Chief executive Jim Gill said: "The Central Village scheme will make a huge, positive difference to a part of the city centre which has seen too little investment for too long. It is another example of renewed developer and investor confidence in the city. The scheme has our full support and, subject to planning permission, we look forward to a start later this year."
tonymcdonough@dailypost.co.uk
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These are the towers that will be built I think:
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A STUNNING redesign of a rundown spot in Liverpool city centre is set to be approved after months of discussion.
Plans for a gleaming glass tower rising above Bold Street have been ditched, but the Central Station scheme is now likely to go ahead.
Heritage experts had pledged to block the scheme because its main feature, a 38-floor skyscraper, would overshadow the historic Rope Walks.
But a new version of the project is now set to be given the go-ahead by Liverpool council.
The skyscraper has been replaced by two 25 and 20-storey buildings, containing about 300 flats.
They will sit alongside a 159-bedroom hotel, two smaller apartment blocks, underground car park, public square and canal-style water feature on the currently derelict site.
Council planners believe the scheme, called Central Village, will transform the area parallel to Renshaw Street and breathe fresh life into the station.
But it still faces significant opposition before it gets the final go-ahead from councillors next week.
Several city centre businesses, Merseytravel bosses and heritage groups have big concerns.
Merseytravel wants developer Central Regeneration to contribute towards a planned revamp of the station, including new ticket barriers and a link between Central Village and the concourse.
It also wants guarantees:
* The project will not affect the station's operation or future expansion.
* Nearby roads will be able to handle extra traffic.
* The canal water feature will not flood the railway.
* The 350-space car park will not affect the station's ventilation.
But the plan has the support of regeneration organisation Liverpool Vision and English Heritage.
The council's planning committee will make the final decision next Tuesday.
Paul D
06-27-2006, 03:07 PM
Seems we both posted that story at the same time so I've deleted mine,:unibrow: Excellent news isn't it Kev,everyone prefered the last proposal but this is better than the original proposal so we should now just embrace this since this is the one we're getting,the public realm part of this development looks unbelievable so I'm really looking forward to it but on the down side I'm not a lover of those towers it has to be said.
Seems we both posted that story at the same time so I've deleted mine,:unibrow: Excellent news isn't it Kev,everyone prefered the last proposal but this is better than the original proposal so we should now just embrace this since this is the one we're getting,the public realm part of this development looks unbelievable so I'm really looking forward to it but on the down side I'm not a lover of those towers it has to be said.
Embrace them, thats the spirit :celb (23): When I'm in The Central (pub) I shall look up into the sky and look at how the view will change. Its in such a prominent position too. I actually like 'em both. Obviously would have liked the first one but the two we are getting still look nice to me. But then some have said I have caught that EH virus :shock:
Paul D
06-27-2006, 04:42 PM
Well I've asked B4mmy off SSC because he's worked on this project what he thought about it and he's eased my fears about the towers,here's what he had to say.
Yes I do support it, yes I have worked on it.
To start with, the planners have only asked for impact visuals so far, to give them an idea of massing and some regard to detail. There is likely to be another presentation following approval, if given, where the towers will be further articulated. It is premature to write them off at this stage because from what I know of the scheme there is beauty in the finer detail. Also, glass is notoriously difficult to visualise, eg: see the visuals for Beetham, Manchester - which look nothing like the final build in terms of colour and shine. It may well be that the materials will be further clarified for the next set of visuals. Even though we have some comprehensive visuals for the overall scheme, we have not yet set about demonstrating its finer points. It will be an expensive building to construct and the materials used will be of the highest quality. I believe that the final building will have a great deal of weight and substance, and when all the details are made public I think most people will see the finer aspects of it. I have read all the posts that express disappointment, but the site has gone through so many knock backs I think it will be an achievement just to get planning for a development of this scale, in this extremely difficult and complex location. On this point alone the developer and architect should be applauded. I assure you that after all this time and effort it is highly unlikely that a 'milton keynes' block appearance will be the final solution. There is a hugely talented team behind the project and I feel very positive about it. I've met a few people on the forum here and I assure you I would not publicly say this if I did not believe it.
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LIVERPOOL'S £160m Central Village scheme now looks almost certain to go ahead after the developer agreed to lower the height of the 38-storey tower.
In a compromise deal, developer Central Regeneration has now proposed to build two smaller towers to replace the original 38-storey structure.
Two 25-storey and 20-storey towers will now be built. It is hoped this will satisfy the main objector, English Heritage, which was concerned about the impact the original design would have on the city's skyline.
The new design, unveiled yesterday, was put together following consultation with Liverpool City Council, Liverpool Vision, English Heritage and the Commission for Architecture and the Built Environment (CABE).
The rest of the 600,000 sq ft scheme will remain unchanged including the large areas of public realm and retail space. A planning application will now be submitted to the city council.
Central Regeneration - a collaboration between established developers Merepark and Ballymore - aims to create a mixed-use scheme that will include residential, retail and leisure space and a hotel.
Merepark director Richard Peel said: "Over the last few months we have had a very meaningful and productive dialogue with Liverpool City Council, English Heritage, CABE and Liverpool Vision to find a way forward which would be acceptable to all parties, while maintaining the commercial viability of the scheme and the positive effect it will have on the area.
"We have been very impressed with the professional approach and commitment from all interested parties including English Heritage, the city council and Liverpool Vision in working towards an improved solution.
"The revised plans are undoubtedly an improvement to the application and continue to mark a £160m investment in Liver pool."
When construction does finally get under way it will bring an end to a saga that has dragged on for nearly two years.
Ballymore acquired the site from Network Rail in 2002 and later put forward proposals for a £100m, 200,000 sq ft scheme,
featuring a 30-storey tower. However, English Heritage and Liverpool Vision were unhappy with the proposals and told the developer to revise its plan.
A further complication arose in 2004 when a legal dispute with Network Rail over "air rights" threatened to derail the project.
This was eventually settled and late last year Central Regeneration came up with a plan it believed would please all parties. However, English Heritage then lodged its objection leading the city council to indicate it would not pass the plan.
Yesterday Liverpool Vision welcomed the revised plans. Chief executive Jim Gill said: "The Central Village scheme will make a huge, positive difference to a part of the city centre which has seen too little investment for too long. It is another example of renewed developer and investor confidence in the city. The scheme has our full support and, subject to planning permission, we look forward to a start later this year."
tonymcdonough@dailypost.co.uk
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/qwerty1234520012000/P1000923a.jpg
Would it be ok to use that carpark though for it?
Paul D
06-27-2006, 04:57 PM
Would it be ok to use that carpark though for it?
The new development would include a car park so that's not a problem.
Wish they never had to take 13 storey's off though.
gerrydoyle
06-27-2006, 06:02 PM
Finally some good news. Still looks like an interesting development. Hopefully the last casualty of the ridiculous 'tall buildings policy' :celb (6):
Finally some good news. Still looks like an interesting development. Hopefully the last casualty of the ridiculous 'tall buildings policy' :celb (6):
I've seen the renders first hand Gerry (not on the net) and they do look very nice.
b4mmy
06-28-2006, 12:02 AM
Well I've asked B4mmy off SSC because he's worked on this project what he thought about it and he's eased my fears about the towers,here's what he had to say.
Alright Paul. There seems to be a bit of kerfuffle going on so I've come over to wind a few of you up and check out whats going on over here. :)
Paul D
06-28-2006, 05:56 AM
Alright Paul. There seems to be a bit of kerfuffle going on so I've come over to wind a few of you up and check out whats going on over here. :)
Alright B4mmy you wont get any hassle over here were more mellow on yoliverpool.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Bunnyman
06-28-2006, 06:07 AM
Speak for yourself Paul!
Alright B4mmy, yeh big ***** *** **** *********!!!
:Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:
Alright Paul. There seems to be a bit of kerfuffle going on so I've come over to wind a few of you up and check out whats going on over here. :)
Hi b4mmy, cheers for your support and signing up. :)
Meanwhile, another day passes and good news for Central Village it seems:
THE £160m scheme to create a village in the heart of Liverpool is set to be given the go-ahead within days.
It has been hailed as one of Liverpool's biggest regeneration schemes, centred around Central Station and Bold Street.
Despite strong objections to the so-called Central Village, a revised scheme now looks almost certain to be given the go ahead at next Tuesday's meeting of Liverpool City Council's Planning Committee.
A fortnight ago the planning committee, led by chairwoman Cllr Lady Doreen Jones, visited the area.
City planning officers are recommending approval of the revised development, even though objections have been lodged by neighbouring Lewis's and Rapid Hardware. The most serious objection comes from the heritage watchdog agency, CABE, the Commission for Architecture and the Built Environment.
CABE has welcomed the lower-height buildings, and considers the proposed lay-out is of merit, but says it still has fundamental concerns about the scheme.
"We do not consider that towers of this dominance are right in this location. Concerns are such that support cannot be given for this proposal," CABE officials have told the council.
Originally developers Central Regeneration proposed two landmark towers, the highest 38 storeys high but there was major opposition.
Instead, smaller towers will be built to satisfy opposition from one of the main objectors, the government heritage agency, English Heritage. They had expressed concerned about the impact of the original design on the city's famous skyline.
Revised designs were put together following meetings with the city council, Liverpool Vision, English Heritage and CABE, The Commission for Architecture and the Built Environment.
Now, the revised scheme comprises of five glazed structures, the highest 25 storeys and the others, 20 floors, two nine-storey buildings and a five-storey structure. The buildings will run parallel with Renshaw Street, and take in the site behind Lewis's, where there will be two linked residential towers.
The development will include a nine-storey, 159-bed hotel, more than 400 apartments, shops, bars and restaurants.
Neighbouring businesses and the local Area Committees are objecting to the development. The council's area committee strongly object on the grounds that the scheme represents over-development on the site.
The owners of Lewis's department store have welcomed the regeneration around Central Station area but are concerned that the new site does little to integrate with the famous store, and effectively will be "turning its back" on Lewis's.
The store owners also say the two taller buildings would have a huge impact on the sunlight entering the store, and extensive building work on the development would mean massive disruptions for the chain.
Egg Restaurant, in Newington, say that the nine storey hotel block, sited on the opposite side of Cropper Street, will be "overbearing"
City centre regeneration company Liverpool Vision said: "Quality is a key issue in this scheme. It's essential that quality is maintained in the design and the facades.
"The pedestrian link to Central Station is essential connecting the development to the main retail area via the station and Clayton Square. The regeneration success of the scheme depends on this access being delivered."
English Heritage has now dropped its previous objection.
Blabber
06-28-2006, 10:33 AM
This is great news. I don't care about the previous proposal anymore. This is going to make a huge difference to the area- 5 very large buildings, excellent public realm, new uses bringing people into the area and increasing activity, and connections between Renshaw and Bold St. This will make a massive world of difference to the city centre. Nobody should underestimate that.
20 and 25 storey buildings are not remotely small when you're stood at the foot of them. These may not be massive scrapers, but that doesn't bother me one jot. Hopefully the facades will be of a very high standard.
Get it built. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Todays the big day.......................
You buying the drinks to celebrate it.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Paul D
07-04-2006, 05:21 PM
Todays the big day.......................
IT WAS APPROVED!!:celb (23):
I've just heard its been given approval :PDT_Aliboronz_24::PDT_Piratz_26:
Speak for yourself Paul!
Alright B4mmy, yeh big ***** *** **** *********!!!
:Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:
Disgusting language :D
b4mmy
07-04-2006, 06:52 PM
Yes it was approved with only one objection! Another chap put his name down for objection but after the presentation he changed his mind which says a great deal about the so far unpublicised details on the scheme.
Its great news for everyone. The end of an extremely long and difficult application.
It has always baffled me why this scheme was so difficult to bring to the city. It's wider implications for employment and regeneration are as significant as any in Liverpool for many years. The principle of revitalisation, using world class architects in Woods Bagot, and the even more famous Landscape practice Martha Schwartz is a fantastic asset to Liverpool's portfolio. The landscape scheme is safe and it will be a landmark and icon for the city centres night life, retail and leisure industries.
I am so incredibly happy for Liverpool that this scheme has finally reached this conclusion.
It's true that a sacrifice was made on the tower, but the tower was not the most significant part of the project. As a whole this development is massive! It will be built in phases, but when its complete Liverpool will be buzzing all the way from the docks right to end of Bold Street. I'm really happy, :celb (23): and its great news.
Now for the hard part.
That's sound b4mmy, now we can all sit back and watch it grow :) - A Beer in The Central anyone?:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Has there been a approximate date for work to begin?
b4mmy
07-04-2006, 07:12 PM
It's gonna be as soon as the legal stuff is tied up I guess. Building regs need drawing up, issues with network rail resolving, assurances to Lewis's and possibly Rapid.... I don't know how much more other stuff. I reckon it should have started by the end of the year, next springtime.... just a guess. There'll be some pr out soon, I think the BBC are looking for stuff to put out, but its best to keep an eye on things like Estates Gazette and local press to be honest. The BBC will probably interpret it as some commie camp site going on past performance...
It's gonna be as soon as the legal stuff is tied up I guess. Building regs need drawing up, issues with network rail resolving, assurances to Lewis's and possibly Rapid.... I don't know how much more other stuff. I reckon it should have started by the end of the year, next springtime.... just a guess. There'll be some pr out soon, I think the BBC are looking for stuff to put out, but its best to keep an eye on things like Estates Gazette and local press to be honest. The BBC will probably interpret it as some commie camp site going on past performance...
Cheers :PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Paul D
07-04-2006, 08:01 PM
A Great Result I can't wait.:celb (23):
WASTELAND by Liverpool's Central Station will be transformed into a £160m shopping, residential and leisure development after city planners passed the contentious Central Village scheme yesterday. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=17333513%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=go%2dahead%2dfor%2d%2dpound%2d160m%2dsh ops%2dand%2dflats%2dplan-name_page.html)
Wahey, a tower of shopping and Leisure.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
A GLEAMING cluster of glass towers behind Liverpool's Central station will let "the 18th century meet the 21st century", a developer has claimed.
Councillors were told yesterday that the £160m Central Village complex will bring a long-forgotten section of the old Victorian rail interchange back to life.
They backed a long-awaited plan to build two towers, a hotel and two apartment blocks on the derelict site, currently hidden behind shops on Bold Street and Renshaw Street.
And they praised a futuristic shallow waterfall, culminating in a "wall of 1,000 pipes", which will run through a public square.
Lady Doreen Jones, planning committee chairman, said: "I have been on numerous visits to this site over the years, and I think this scheme is superb.
"The water feature is really exciting, and I much prefer it to the fountain in Williamson Square. "At last, something will be done to this site and I look forward to it being completed."
Developers Merepark and Ballymore drafted in Chicago-based architect Stephan Reinke to design Central Village.
He told the committee:
"This is an opportunity for old to meet new, for the 18th century to meet the 21st century.
"Liverpool is full of rich history and we should draw from those clues.
"At the moment, Church Street ends with nothing. This is a chance for a landmark building that tells people this is the end of their journey."
The two 25 and 20-storey towers, nicknamed "Tracy and Hepburn" after Hollywood legends Spencer Tracy and Katharine Hepburn, will house offices, shops and apartments.
A staircase will link Central Village to the station, which will be given a facelift to update its ageing facilities.
The scheme had previously proposed a 38-floor skyscraper, which was scrapped amid fears it would overshadow the nearby historic Rope Walks district.
As a result, it has now won crucial support from English Heritage, which was unhappy with the original idea.
At yesterday's meeting, the plan was opposed by local historian Florence Gersten, from the Save Our City campaign.
She said: "It is a great pity the development of this site has been left to the era of high-rise monoliths.
"The resulting effect on the city's skyline will not go away during our lifetimes or those of generations to come."
Work should start on the two towers and hotel in early 2007, with the entire complex completed over four years.
nick.coligan@liverpool.com
Paul D
07-05-2006, 05:05 PM
http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/5155/3f2a0611af097dc967bba824d3771a.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I starting to like the look of this already,going on this picture from the echo.
Paul D
07-06-2006, 12:35 PM
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3770/centralvillage11pj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Thanks to B4mmy we have this wonderful render.:celb (23): :celb (6):
Paul D
07-06-2006, 01:09 PM
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6492/centralb5vv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
richie1878
07-11-2006, 01:07 AM
Alright fellas
Pleased this has now been resolved. I have always been ****ed off that the 2nd proposal got the knock back but am warming to the idea. It's a massive project and a massive investment that is great news. **** loads of jobs and will transform a virtually unknown part of town.
Still hate the interferring *****s though.
...a part of town that has always been the same ever since i was born, welcome Richie :PDT_Aliboronz_24:
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6492/centralb5vv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Well that shows it fits in well.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
richie1878
07-11-2006, 11:42 PM
Cheers for the welcome Kev
Cheers for the welcome Kev
no probs :PDT_Aliboronz_24:
wallasey
07-17-2006, 02:38 PM
This development will be great for that part of the city as it will just bring everyting together; that is all the Paradise Street and the Lime Street Gateway work.
One problem though, which I am unsure will be resolved, Central Station is the main station for the retail centre of the city. Consequently it is very busy and is infact running over capacity. Now, do these plans take a possible upgrade/expansion of Central Station into consideration?
THE developers behind the £160m Central Village scheme in Liverpool have acquired
additional sites in nearby Bold Street to "book-end" the huge project.
Merepark and Ballymore have acquired 21-25 Bold
Street from Legal and General for an undisclosed sum, as part of a plan to enhance the experience at the 600,000 sq ft Central Village
scheme.
Plans for the two-storey building include opening up the interior and adding another floor as well as giving the exterior a modern glass
frontage.
The building is currently occupied by Greggs, Eddie Rocket's and Resurrection who will continue to trade as normal. The Subway site on the
corner of Newington and Bold Street, which will provide pedestrian access directly into Central Village's public square, has also been acquired.
Merepark
director Richard Peel said: "Our aspiration is to continue the momentum being generated in the Bold Street area and these acquisitions will help us to do
that."Enhancing these gateways will connect Central Village with Bold Street's more established retail offer."
Merepark and Ballymore added the former
Wades furniture store at 9-19 Bold Street, which backs onto the Central Village site, to its portfolio at the end of 2005.
This has now been refurbished
into three retail units - home to fashion retailer Drome and Costa Coffee. American bar chain Telo has also confirmed a 15,000 sq ft letting.
Work is
expected to start in early 2007 on the 25-storey tower and a 20-storey mid-rise building, nicknamed Spencer and Hepburn, after
film legends Spencer Tracy and Katherine Hepburn. Two nine-storey and one five-storey buildings will sit alongside.
The development will be phased
over four years.
Paul D
10-16-2006, 03:54 PM
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5648/centralvillageaerialze6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Wow,:celb (23): how good is Liverpool
going to look.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5648/centralvillageaerialze6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Wow,:celb (23): how good is
Liverpool going to look.
Now we are talking, thats beautiful!! Fingers crossed it starts soon, unless there's a public enquiry into something or
other!!! Any start date?
lindylou
10-16-2006, 06:58 PM
Fabulous ! :celb (23):
The city centre looks nicer always at
night on picture.
Paul D
10-17-2006, 02:34 PM
Any start date?
Early next year and
it's scheduled to finish in 2011.
Paul D
12-15-2006, 03:08 PM
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7071/centralstation01pb5.jpg
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4794/centralstation03xy1.jpg
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1526/centralstation06ls8.jpg
http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/192/centralstation04gc5.jpg
This in my opinion is one of the best developments happening here at the moment,I can't wait for them to get on site and get this one moving.
:celb (23):
More renders courtesy of Bammy.
They sort of remind me of the Unity tower but without the cuboid penthouse on the top.
PhilipG
12-15-2006, 03:22 PM
One of the benefits (?) of getting older is that you remember earlier schemes that never got past the planning stage.
Round about 1969 there were plans for a new cinema behind Central Station, and there have been other schemes since.
I love the first tall glass tower, but I'm not so keen on the two smaller replacements.
I never was keen on Unity right from the start when the first drawings appeared in "Your Move" (but I love the Beethams).
The Teardrop Explodes
12-15-2006, 04:25 PM
how do you feel about the Unity now it's up?
PhilipG
12-15-2006, 05:38 PM
how do you feel about the Unity now it's up?
I've said it before, so it's no secret, but I think the Atlantic Tower Hotel still looks better than them.
Having said that, now that they are completely finished (I think) I'll look at them again.
shytalk
12-15-2006, 05:59 PM
I always like the Atlantic Tower, it was the best designed hotel of that era, would you believe though that people complained at the time that it didn't fit in with the rest of the area. :037:
Paul D
02-18-2007, 03:22 PM
Birse are fixing the walls before work gets under way on Central Village.
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6789/centralvl8.jpg
Thanks Paul, I was wondering today when work was to begin :PDT_Piratz_26:
Paul D
02-18-2007, 04:45 PM
Thanks Paul, I was wondering today when work was to begin :PDT_Piratz_26:
At least now we know things are about too happen fairly soon.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
oritelad
03-05-2007, 06:23 PM
well work has finaly started the car park has closed down to so soon we will loose all traces of the old liverppol central station forever :(
DIY retailer Rapid Hardware is considering selling its paint shop on Renshaw Street to the property company behind the Central Village development.
The hardware store, which has struggled in recent years due to the effects of Liverpool’s Big Dig roadworks on trading, is in early stage talks with property group Merepark. Although the price under discussion has not been disclosed, the property, on the corner of Newington Street and Renshaw Street, could be worth millions of pounds.
The post-war concrete and glass store building would be demolished to make way for access to Merepark’s Central Village shops and residential towers scheme. continues (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/thebusinessweek/regionalnews/tm_headline=rapid-may-sell-its-paint-store%26method=full%26objectid=18886407%26siteid=5 0061-name_page.html).....
Work will start this year on the revised 25-storey and 20-storey mid-rise buildings, nicknamed Spencer and Hepburn, after film legends Spencer Tracy and Katherine Hepburn – she was the taller of the two. Two nine-storey and one five-storey buildings will sit alongside.
oritelad
04-16-2007, 01:47 PM
i aint really happy at all about this development we are looseing all traces of old liverpools stations what confusess me is how can they make the view look nice the site is surrounded by old backs off buildings and wallsit looks so scruffy
PhilipG
04-16-2007, 07:11 PM
i aint really happy at all about this development we are looseing all traces of old liverpools stations what confusess me is how can they make the view look nice the site is surrounded by old backs off buildings and wallsit looks so scruffy
All the original parts of Central Station went years ago, didn't they?
Only the Underground Merseyrail remains.
I'm happy to be corrected because I don't know if there's anything left in that large triangle at the back.
oritelad
04-16-2007, 11:39 PM
yes its the old station when liverpool central first opened it was all on that land quite a few traces are left i will show the rare hard to see bits on my site soon www.oldliverpoolrailways.tk i took photos
Scanner
04-17-2007, 01:11 AM
Great for that area. seems so long ago now that i used to seel newspapers with my Uncles outside Central Station, (my Uncles are still selling there today) MY FAMILY HAVE SOLD NEWSPAPERS OUT SIDE CENTRAL STATION SINCE IT WAS FIRST BUILT
oritelad
04-17-2007, 03:04 AM
wow thats a long time dont sopose any photos where took would of loved to see what the underground was like before the loop line was built also the old booking hall the only old photos of central station seem to be of the outside from main road and train shed on the high level
Harry
04-18-2007, 08:45 PM
I'd like to see enormous "muriels" decorating the backs of these buildings. It'd be better than leaving them as they are. I suppose they could use railway themes in this area.
This could be done on boring gable ends of terraced houses as well a la belfast without the bigotry. We have talented graffitti artists in the city (apparently) who would be happy to oblige legally for a change.
http://www.residentialreview.co.uk/downloads/resrev_12.pdf
PDF file has some nice pictures of the proposals
More here toohttp://www.alanselby.co.uk/projects/index.php?pid=64
kat:)
THE developers of the £160m Central Village scheme in Liverpool city centre have held discussions with Rapid Hardware about buying their Renshaw Street store.
Rapid is set to move into the John Lewis store in Church Street in 2011, freeing its buildings along Renshaw Street for redevelopment. The company has confirmed it has been in talks with developers working with city centre regeneration company Liverpool Vision regarding the sale of the building.
Rapid’s buildings sit behind the Central Village development site, where building work will soon start on a complex of shops and two residential towers. :handclap:
Earlier this year, Merepark, which is developing Central Village with partner Ballymore, confirmed it was in talks with Rapid about buying the hardware store’s former paint shop further down Renshaw Street next to Lewis’s department store.
A spokeswoman for Merepark confirmed the developer had spoken to the store about the rest of its Renshaw Street properties stretching up to the junction with Berry Street.
The spokeswoman said: “We have had some discussions with Rapid about the Renshaw Street premises.
“Because they’re an adjoining landowner, we have an interest in the site but want to stress nothing final has been agreed. It’s still very much at the discussion stage.”
Construction work on Central Village, which will be built on derelict land behind Central Station between Bold Street and Renshaw Street, will start in November.
Phase one of the project includes two towers, one 25 storeys high and the other 20 storeys high. They will sit alongside two nine-storey and one five-storey buildings.
The 600,000sqft development is expected to create more than 800 jobs.
Merepark has bought other buildings in the area to control the condition of buildings near Central Village.
In April, Merepark confirmed it was in discussions about buying Rapid’s post war concrete and glass paint store building half way down Renshaw Street. The company planned to demolish the building to make way for access to Central Village, but no deal has yet been struck.
John Lewis will move from its historic Church Street premises to a new home in Grosvenor’s Liverpool One development next spring.
Marks & Spencer will then take over the building for two years while its own neighbouring store is refurbished.
Rapid take over the store in 2011 and says its move will create 200 new jobs.
alistairhoughton@dailypost.co.uk
Paul D
10-05-2007, 03:05 PM
I can't wait until this starts,Imagine the impact on the area it will have.It'll link up the Ropewalks,Paradise Street which will in turn link up the Waterfront perfectly,other Northern cities started regenerating many years ago and now it's our turn to shine.
woody
10-11-2007, 08:49 PM
Construction News reporting that Carillion has landed a £70m first phase of Central Village, this phase includes both towers and a 4star hotel.
Work will start early 2008.:034:
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5084/4727centralstationtowerfl9.jpg
Fantastic pics and update Woody, cheers matey :PDT11
Libertarian
10-11-2007, 09:23 PM
THE developers of the £160m Central Village scheme in Liverpool city centre have held discussions with Rapid Hardware about buying their Renshaw Street store.
Rapid is set to move into the John Lewis store in Church Street in 2011, freeing its buildings along Renshaw Street for redevelopment. The company has confirmed it has been in talks with developers working with city centre regeneration company Liverpool Vision regarding the sale of the building.
Rapid’s buildings sit behind the Central Village development site, where building work will soon start on a complex of shops and two residential towers. :handclap:
Earlier this year, Merepark, which is developing Central Village with partner Ballymore, confirmed it was in talks with Rapid about buying the hardware store’s former paint shop further down Renshaw Street next to Lewis’s department store.
A spokeswoman for Merepark confirmed the developer had spoken to the store about the rest of its Renshaw Street properties stretching up to the junction with Berry Street.
The spokeswoman said: “We have had some discussions with Rapid about the Renshaw Street premises.
“Because they’re an adjoining landowner, we have an interest in the site but want to stress nothing final has been agreed. It’s still very much at the discussion stage.”
Construction work on Central Village, which will be built on derelict land behind Central Station between Bold Street and Renshaw Street, will start in November.
Phase one of the project includes two towers, one 25 storeys high and the other 20 storeys high. They will sit alongside two nine-storey and one five-storey buildings.
The 600,000sqft development is expected to create more than 800 jobs.
Merepark has bought other buildings in the area to control the condition of buildings near Central Village.
In April, Merepark confirmed it was in discussions about buying Rapid’s post war concrete and glass paint store building half way down Renshaw Street. The company planned to demolish the building to make way for access to Central Village, but no deal has yet been struck.
John Lewis will move from its historic Church Street premises to a new home in Grosvenor’s Liverpool One development next spring.
Marks & Spencer will then take over the building for two years while its own neighbouring store is refurbished.
Rapid take over the store in 2011 and says its move will create 200 new jobs.
alistairhoughton@dailypost.co.uk
If rapid are going to Lee's then perhaps rapids old building could be taken by Quiggins if they wanted it? Certainly it will lead to the regeneration of Berry Street and if new restaurants, bars and shops were to open in the old rapid building it would give the area a more distinctive feel than that at present.
woody
10-14-2007, 11:46 AM
Central Village site ,2007
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1438/182543734f44b7b33fbbpe4.jpg
January start, so in 2010 it will look like.........
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3476/centralvillageimage15lyus8.jpg
Sarah
10-17-2007, 08:18 PM
I think the development looks great and I'm a sucker for water features!:) So lucky to come from a water city aren't I?lol
PhilipG
10-17-2007, 08:30 PM
I hope Rapid's building in Renshaw Street remains.
I like it.
It's got a date of 1902 on it, and was built on the site of St Andrew's Church (which then moved to Aigburth Road).
It willl be a stunning addition to 'town'. I echo PhilG about the Rapid building. That side of town is quite 'tidy' these days.
floyd
10-31-2007, 09:22 AM
Just a thought about the start date of the Central village project.
Part of the original deal struck by the developers when they bought the land from Network Rail was that a new depot would be provided elsewhere for railway staff who currently reside behind central station.
The council keep refusing planning permission for every site Network rail and the developers propose, so bugger all will happen in terms of building Central Village until this is resolved. :shock:
Paul D
11-07-2007, 06:30 PM
LIVERPOOL’S iconic Lewis’s building has been sold.
The building has been sold for an undisclosed fee to north-west developer Merepark.
The new owners have pledged to restore the famous building to its former glory and are expected to submit a planning application for the re-development of the nine storey, 420,000 sq. ft building next month.
The new owners have also stressed the Lewis’s store will continue to trade as usual and its best known features including the Jacob Epstein statue, ‘Liverpool Resurgent’ will be preserved.:PDT11
LIVERPOOL’S iconic Lewis’s department store is to undergo a major £30m refurbishment that will see all nine floors used for retail and leisure.
The Daily Post today reveals initial details of a vision to upgrade the Grade II listed building, as part of plans to redevelop Renshaw Street and the area around Central station. more (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/11/08/lewis-s-store-at-heart-of-30m-liverpool-development-64375-20078760/)
scottieroader
12-17-2007, 03:57 PM
Good news that Central Village is getting the go - ahead, but I worry about the effect the overwhelmingly capitalist-and-consumerist-in-character scheme will have on the more bohemian and small scale character of Bold Street, and especially Newington, it would be a shame to see places like Di Scala and Egg Cafes and some of the shops on Newington and Bold Street forced out as the global corporations look to move into the area.
scottieroader
12-18-2007, 01:39 PM
Central Village site ,2007
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1438/182543734f44b7b33fbbpe4.jpg
January start, so in 2010 it will look like.........
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3476/centralvillageimage15lyus8.jpg
Looks alright... but they are knocking down the Newington Buildings for the sake of a few yuppies and a MacDonald's or something like that. Can they not design it so that the essential bohemian and vibrant character of the area is preserved, this will kill the urban feel of hte place
Dec 26 2007 by Nick Coligan, Liverpool Echo
WORK is finally going to start on a cluster of glass towers behind Liverpool’s Central station – 18 months after the scheme was announced.
Developers hope the £160m Central Village complex will be on site early in the New Year so derelict land behind the former rail interchange that dates back to Victorian times can be brought back to life.
The ambitious scheme was given the go-ahead by city councillors in July 2006, with a pencilled-in start date of early 2007.
But work will now begin on the developments within the next few weeks, the beginning of a two-and-a-half year project to revitalise the Bold Street area of the city centre.
Central Village’s eye-catching feature will be two 25 and 20-storey towers, nicknamed “Tracy and Hepburn” after Hollywood legends Spencer Tracy and Katharine Hepburn, containing almost 320 apartments.
They will be joined by two nine-storey and one five-storey blocks containing more flats, offices, shops, bars and a four-star hotel.
There will also be a futuristic shallow waterfall, designed by American architect Martha Schwartz, spanned by a bridge leading into Central Village’s public square.
Developer Merepark today said the first six months of the project would involve work on the foundations, with the first visible signs to passers-by appearing in August.
With one storey a week expected to be erected, more than 400 construction workers will be on site.
Even though Central Village will not be completed until 2010, off-plan sales of one and two-bedroom apartments will start in April and May.
Meanwhile, Merepark is also pushing ahead with its plans for Lewis’s building, which backs on to the Central Village site. The iconic store, which narrowly escaped closure this year, is set to undergo a £30m refurbishment.
Merepark says its decision to buy the Lewis’s building and the neighbouring Watson’s building in November was a key part of its overall vision for the area.
Director Richard Peel said: “They will enable us to deliver a full regeneration programme for Central Village and integrate two very prominent sites into the fabric of the city.
“We are looking forward to a new future for Lewis’s, in which its building will once again play a leading part in the lives of the people of Liverpool.”
nick.coligan@liverpool.com
naked lilac
12-27-2007, 08:43 PM
Good news that Central Village is getting the go - ahead, but I worry about the effect the overwhelmingly capitalist-and-consumerist-in-character scheme will have on the more bohemian and small scale character of Bold Street, and especially Newington, it would be a shame to see places like Di Scala and Egg Cafes and some of the shops on Newington and Bold Street forced out as the global corporations look to move into the area.
Looking at the above pics.. looks like a LOT of concrete.. wowie...I do hope, (like you said,) the Bohemian area , and Character of Bold street can continue.. Personally speaking.. I like the small outdoor areas and having a drink in that type atmosphere.. Keeping my fingers crossed for Liverpool.. On the positive side.. lots of jobs for construction workers , and "New" is good too sometimes.. I just like the old architecture myself... so.. lets hope more trees and some park area can be also in the scheme:034:
lindylou
12-31-2007, 11:56 AM
I don't like the names Tracy and Hepburn for the towers - why name the towers after Spencer Tracy & Katherine Hepburn ?? What for ??
... am I leaving myself wide open here for looking stupid ? :neutral: ( I suppose I've missed some vital connection) :rolleyes: :)
.. but what have those 2 filmstars got to do with our central village?
Paul D
12-31-2007, 12:48 PM
But work will now begin on the developments within the next few weeks, the beginning of a two-and-a-half year project to revitalise the Bold Street area of the city centre.
About time too.:)
buggedboy
01-06-2008, 11:29 PM
I don't like the names Tracy and Hepburn for the towers - why name the towers after Spencer Tracy & Katherine Hepburn ?? What for ??
... am I leaving myself wide open here for looking stupid ? :neutral: ( I suppose I've missed some vital connection) :rolleyes: :)
.. but what have those 2 filmstars got to do with our central village?
I think it's something to do with the fact that Spencer Tracey was actually shorter than Ms Hepburn, so they are thought to be a little different. They wanted to give them a "trendy" name so plonked for those two.
lindylou
01-07-2008, 12:08 PM
Well I wouldn't opt for those names at all. Why would we want some American film stars :rolleyes:
kenotoole123@msn.com
01-07-2008, 01:08 PM
How about...'Little & Large'......well they are British!!!
scottieroader
01-07-2008, 05:57 PM
Looking at the above pics.. looks like a LOT of concrete.. wowie...I do hope, (like you said,) the Bohemian area , and Character of Bold street can continue.. Personally speaking.. I like the small outdoor areas and having a drink in that type atmosphere.. Keeping my fingers crossed for Liverpool.. On the positive side.. lots of jobs for construction workers , and "New" is good too sometimes.. I just like the old architecture myself... so.. lets hope more trees and some park area can be also in the scheme:034:
It's reading between the lines of the rhetoric that goes along with the scheme that worries me 'revitalise the Bold Street area'... now correct me if I'm wrong but if there's one thing Bold Street isn't short of it's vitality. I don't mean you shouldn't build anything new to give it even more vitality, it's the wording. It gives the impression that some big-wig is looking at Bold Street thinking, 'small independent shops ,how twee, we can do much bigger things for this area'. Of course I could be just being paranoid... I hope I am.
As for the tower's names... how about Crouch and Arteta?
naked lilac
01-08-2008, 12:07 AM
I agree Lindy.....what does Actors names have to do with two Glass buildings? and Old actors for New buildings?????? Crazy....
I also read a post ~way back.. about the Chinese names of the Dock buildings?
Whats going on ? Need some concerned citizens to go to City Hall and try and get some answers for your deserving city . It seems to be getting overtaken by big money... OUCH...
Waterways
01-08-2008, 12:54 AM
Well I wouldn't opt for those names at all. Why would we want some American film stars :rolleyes:
Filming goes on in the city and they are trying to increase the industry. Makes sense to have buildings named after artistic people rather than a man who made it rich.
How about Mike Myers? Now there is an actor!! His Ma and Pa were from Liverpool too. :)
Waterways
01-08-2008, 01:02 AM
It's reading between the lines of the rhetoric that goes along with the scheme that worries me 'revitalise the Bold Street area'... now correct me if I'm wrong but if there's one thing Bold Street isn't short of it's vitality. I don't mean you shouldn't build anything new to give it even more vitality, it's the wording. It gives the impression that some big-wig is looking at Bold Street thinking, 'small independent shops ,how twee, we can do much bigger things for this area'. Of course I could be just being paranoid... I hope I am.
The area being built on is vacant land that was once rail tracks and a station. The main parts is residential blocks that will bring more people to the area. That will re-vitalise the area and give more business to the small cafes, bars, etc around. It will enhance not bring down the area.
Bold St was never Bohemian. It was the most elegant and fashionable shopping street in the city. Nothing was cheap there and all top quality. It may revert back to its old self, probably not as the shopping complexes nearer the docks may take that role, then the Bohemian aspect should be enhanced.
lindylou
01-08-2008, 10:18 AM
Filming goes on in the city and they are trying to increase the industry. Makes sense to have buildings named after artistic people rather than a man who made it rich.
How about Mike Myers? Now there is an actor!! His Ma and Pa were from Liverpool too. :)
we'd have to think of some Liverpool film stars -- Rex Harrison for instance.
Now Harrison tower sounds quite smart. Myers tower would sound ok too.
:)
Waterways
01-08-2008, 10:45 AM
we'd have to think of some Liverpool film stars -- Rex Harrison for instance.
Now Harrison tower sounds quite smart. Myers tower would sound ok too.
:)
I think you have to be dead to have a tower named after you. But!! Hollywood puts anyones name on the pavement of stars. So, we must not be so parochial.
Bold Street is very Bohemian these days though, lots of arty places, cafes and buskers (sadly beggars too) We have enough famous Liverpudlians than having to recruit yanks I would have thought.
Waterways
01-08-2008, 11:00 AM
Bold Street is very Bohemian these days though, lots of arty places, cafes and buskers (sadly beggars too) We have enough famous Liverpudlians than having to recruit yanks I would have thought.
The city or country they come from is irrelevant. If you want to name buildings after artistic people then they should be from anywhere. Liverpool was and still is the port for America.
Daniel Craig, the new James Bond, is local enough as he was brought up on the Wirral and lived in Liverpool at one time. All the James Bond actors could have a tower named after them.
naked lilac
01-08-2008, 09:18 PM
I think you have to be dead to have a tower named after you. But!! Hollywood puts anyones name on the pavement of stars. So, we must not be so parochial.
Uh.. Waterways... You also have names of famous people in Stars on the promenade in Otterspool I believe.. In fact .. I took some photos of them and hear ,they too, are being restored.. Also, you don't have to be dead to be recognised for your achievements in life...
Lindy.. I think your ideas are worthy... :Smiliz_Kingz_PDT_13
Uh.. Waterways... You also have names of famous people in Stars on the promenade in Otterspool I believe.. In fact .. I took some photos of them and hear ,they too, are being restored.. Also, you don't have to be dead to be recognised for your achievements in life...
Lindy.. I think your ideas are worthy... :Smiliz_Kingz_PDT_13
Its Liverpool city council policy as far as I know - no new developments to be named after living people.
Waterways
01-08-2008, 11:07 PM
Its Liverpool city council policy as far as I know - no new developments to be named after living people.
Does Bruce Forsyth count? He really has been dead for years.
naked lilac
01-09-2008, 04:26 AM
Its Liverpool city council policy as far as I know - no new developments to be named after living people.
Wow.. can't the artistic deserving "living" people, enjoy a builiding? Sounds a bit strange that decision of the council.. but, okie dokie~ Thanks for letting me know that.. I rest my case:PDT11
jay2410
02-22-2008, 01:18 PM
Whats the latest with the central village?
quincyg
02-22-2008, 04:09 PM
Whats the latest with the central village?
there's images here http://centralvillageliverpool.com/
and this site gives updates on all the building going onhttp://www.liverpoolvision.co.uk/news/news.asp
£180m Liverpool Central Village scheme set to start in autumn (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2008/03/13/180m-liverpool-central-village-scheme-set-to-start-in-autumn-64375-20617750/)
WORK ON the first phase of the £180m Central Village scheme over Liverpool’s Central station is set to start in autumn. Read (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2008/03/13/180m-liverpool-central-village-scheme-set-to-start-in-autumn-64375-20617750/)
"Central station is the third busiest underground station in the UK, but it’s a little hole in the ground at the end of a little shopping mall. We’re going to drive sun and light into the station."
I assume they mean outside of London :D
jon_hall
03-13-2008, 07:28 PM
Would sincerely hope so, otherwise they must hide all those extra commuters very well.
scottieroader
04-28-2008, 02:21 PM
I'm still concerned about the disappearance of the shops on Newington. I'm not against, big towers, flats for the wealthy and globalised architecture per se. But I am against the conspiracy of big developers and retailers to reduce the individuality of cities in order that their 'anywhere' products will be a much easier sell... and their half-baked ideas that removal of smaller buildings and local shops can't be avoided.
I work in a field related to the development industry and have been in meetings with a number of these big cheeses and can confirm that many of them have a very personal contempt for small businesses and their customers. I can't say for sure that this contempt leads to the behaviour I described above but I suspect that it does.
scottieroader
04-28-2008, 02:29 PM
The city or country they come from is irrelevant. If you want to name buildings after artistic people then they should be from anywhere. Liverpool was and still is the port for America.
Daniel Craig, the new James Bond, is local enough as he was brought up on the Wirral and lived in Liverpool at one time. All the James Bond actors could have a tower named after them.
How about we call them McGough and Henri (I know, McGough isn't dead) or Jay and Silent Bob... those would be awesome names for towers.
kenotoole123@msn.com
04-30-2008, 01:41 PM
How about....'Scholes' & 'Neville'....two people that really love the City!!:rolleyes:
http://liverpoolcentralvillage.com/
Still waiting for this scheme to begin......
Paul D
05-14-2008, 03:54 PM
Proposal submitted for city hotel
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/5554/watsonbuildinglq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The four-star hotel would cost £50m to develop
Plans have been submitted for a luxury four-star hotel in Liverpool next to the former Lewis's department store.
Developers Merepark are hoping to transform the Watson building and a neighbouring store on Renshaw Street in the city into a 180-bed hotel.
They say that an international operator has been secured for the project, which would cost about £50m.
In February plans were unveiled to turn the nine-storey Lewis's building into a £105m "leisure destination".
If planning permission is granted later this year, a hotel, cinema, bars, restaurants and shops will be built within the Grade II premises.
The plans, which could create up to 1,000 extra jobs, also include a new open pedestrian street which leads out onto a new plaza and connects into the Central Village development in the city.
Paul D
05-14-2008, 03:57 PM
http://liverpoolcentralvillage.com/
Still waiting for this scheme to begin......
It's good too see Merepark are still buying up property around this development,this will be amazing when it's finished,Liverpool's going to be transformed beyond recognition.
Paul D
05-14-2008, 04:00 PM
Frustrated Rapid puts premises up for sale
May 14 2008 by Barry Turnbull, Liverpool Daily Post
THE frustrated boss of city centre store Rapid Hardware last night hit out at developers who have failed to table an offer for the DIY firm’s premises.
Managing director Martin Doherty has become fed up of interested parties simply "sniffing around" and has decided to put the city store on the market.
The company has to sell the red-brick row of knocked-through shops before it can move into John Lewis's store, in Church Street. John Lewis, in turn, is moving into a new building in the soon-to-open Liverpool One shopping scheme.
In the meantime, Rapid’s nearby former paint store, which was sold to Merepark last year, is to form part of a four-star hotel development in neighbouring £160m Central Village scheme.
Mr Doherty said: "We have had discussions with a number of people about various schemes such as a student village.
“Merepark have been sniffing around but haven't come up with a concrete offer so we need to look at our options and will be going to the market shortly."
Merepark bought the paintstore and were thought to be interested in the rest of the site, which is expected to be valued at tens of millions of pounds.
Ian Jones, director of Merepark, said: “I can confirm we are in discussions with Rapid Hardware over its Renshaw Street site. We can not comment further at this stage.”
A city retail property agent said: "It is a big site, so anyone wanting to redevelop would have to weigh up the costs very care- fully. It would be no use knocking down and replacing with similar buildings, for value you would need to build tall."
Rapid's properties extend along Renshaw Street and into Bold Street. The company declined to detail the value of the site.
Yesterday, Merepark and joint venture partner Ballymore submitted plans for extend a Grade II listed building into a four-star hotel. The Watson building, formerly part of Lewis’s on Renshaw Street, and the neighbouring former Rapid Hardware paint shop, were acquired by joint venture vehicle Central Regeneration.
The 70,000 sq ft Watson building will be extended onto the site of the former paint shop to form a 170,000 sq ft, 180 bedroom, four star-plus hotel designed by international architects Woods Bagot.Š An intern- ational hotel operator has already been secured.
The scheme’s approval would secure a further £50m investment for the city centre.
Mr Jones added: “Working closely with our architects, Woods Bagot, we have developed a scheme which responds well to the local surroundings and provides another dynamic link to Central Village.
“Sustainability is at the centre of our vision and we’re confident that this proposal, combined with our plans for the Lewis’s building and Central Village, will result in an exciting mixed-use quarter that brings new purpose and opportunity to the city.”
skgogosfan
08-01-2008, 09:13 PM
Can't wait to see this approved and started. Come October there'll be a lot of workmen looking for new jobs after finishing the PSDA,so this would be very handy. I wanna see Lewis's fifth floor too. ;)
Dave.
Plans to turn a Grade II listed building in Liverpool city centre into a four star-plus hotel have been given the go-ahead.
Extra floors will be added to the Watson building, which is on the site of the former Rapid Hardware paint shop, to create 180 bedrooms.
The building is a "key element" in a city centre redevelopment project, a spokesman for developers Merepark said.
Two months ago plans were agreed to redevelop the nearby Lewis's building.
Ian Jones, director of Merepark, said: "The Watson building is a key element within the Central Village project, which will form one of the largest regeneration schemes in Liverpool."
The scheme forms part of a ?160m redevelopment in the city.
Liverpool City Council agreed that developers Merepark and Ballymore could transform the iconic Lewis's building into a mixed use scheme including leisure and retail facilities.
BBC Liverpool
RoddersUK
02-04-2009, 11:09 AM
Millennium & Copthorne Commits to Liverpool Scheme
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x49/Rodders-UK/hotel.jpg
MILLENNIUM & Copthorne Hotels is to open two new hotels in Liverpool?s Central Village development, the joint venture between Merepark and Ballymore.
The two establishments, which will create in excess of 400 new hotel rooms in the city, will be prominently located within the ?160m development. Designed by Woods Bagot, the hotels will be aimed at corporate, meetings and leisure customers and will feature conference facilities, function space, a gym/spa, with bars and restaurants for both residents and public use. The hotels are scheduled to open in 2011.
Merepark and Ballymore will begin work on the first phase of the Central Village later this year. The project also includes an additional ?70million development by Merepark and Capital and Counties to transform Lewis?s department store into 140,000 sq ft of retail and leisure, a cinema, another hotel and serviced apartments of 140 rooms, on a new public square.
www.bflmagazine.co.uk
http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/ldp2/mar2009/1/2/liverpool-central-village-image-1-674417826.jpg (http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/ldp2/mar2009/1/2/liverpool-central-village-image-1-674417826.jpg)
Work to start in May!
Read (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2009/03/16/work-starts-on-160m-regeneration-scheme-for-liverpool-92534-23152126/)...:PDT11
Liverpool Daily Post
05-11-2009, 07:13 AM
THE next phase of Liverpool?s regeneration could move forward today if crucial elements of a ?160m scheme are given planning permission.
More... (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2009/05/11/d-day-for-160m-liverpool-s-central-village-regeneration-plan-92534-23589846/)
LIVERPOOL'S £200m Central Village redevelopment will create up to 3000 jobs over the next three years, its developer has said.
More... (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2010/12/02/200m-liverpool-central-village-development-could-create-up-to-3000-jobs-watch-the-latest-fly-through-here-100252-27758434/)
THE developers behind Liverpool’s largest regeneration scheme said it would create up to 3,000 new jobs.
More... (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2010/12/03/liverpool-s-central-village-regeneration-will-create-3-000-jobs-say-developers-92534-27760520/)
TWO of the UK’s leading restaurant chains have signed up to be part of Liverpool’s £200m Central Village scheme.
More... (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2011/01/04/liverpool-s-central-village-scheme-signs-up-frankie-benny-s-and-chiquito-restaurants-92534-27928247/)
y2kinder
03-14-2011, 11:21 AM
Hi everyone!
Just wanted to share these images I took today of the Central Village construction site.
I live at the Tea Factory on Wood Street so I have a really good view of the site from my balcony and an even better view from the roof.
As you can see on the top left of the Lewis building image, work has started and a big chunk has been taken away! I thought the building was listed? Or maybe just the front?I dunno...
I cant wait for more work to begin!
Hi y2kinder, cheers for the pics, keep us informed how things look :)
Chris J
06-03-2011, 12:59 AM
Some shot's of Central Vilage from April, I've a lot from last Sat to edit & post to Flickr & will post here....
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5302/5670670035_29beab64ea.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/earlex/5670670035/)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5029/5670678695_1232c2a60a.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/earlex/5670678695/)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5308/5671252262_290bd70e86.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/earlex/5671252262/)
Wow! Thanks Chris for your fab views! Keep 'em coming ;)
Haven't had any activity on these development forums for a while!!!
Kev
urchin
06-03-2011, 11:14 PM
Any idea what it will look like?
Chris J
06-04-2011, 12:30 AM
Hi Kev,
Glad you like my pics & thanks for your nice comments.
I'm a keen Amateur Photography, I like taking pics of Demolition of building & there re birth. On a trip to Liverpool last year I noticed there was so much development going on that I decided to try and follow it so I make 1 or 2 trips a month to capture these developments.
I've 100's of these development pics. I put quite alot of these on Flickr & on Skyscraper Forum, and now on here.
Check my signature.....[COLOR="Silver"]
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Any idea what it will look like?
Like this... http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4728CentralStationTower2_pic2.jpg
or this http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4728CentralStationTower2_pic3.jpg
or this http://www.skyscrapernews.com/dump/water.jpg
or this http://www.skyscrapernews.com/dump/newington.jpg
A lot more Info here on a Skyscraper Forum thread http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=4049884&postcount=27
wsteve55
06-04-2011, 12:49 AM
Looks great!:nod:
lindylou
06-04-2011, 10:35 AM
Any idea what it will look like?
something like this -
sevenstreets
08-24-2011, 03:20 PM
With its first tenants lined up, and building well under way, can the new Central Village development save the Ropewalks from its recent, turbulent history? David Lloyd looks at the blueprints.
More... (http://www.sevenstreets.com/talk-and-opinion/whats-happening-with-central-village/)
goldenface
08-24-2011, 11:52 PM
That is simply amazing! It nice to see that part of the city being developed at long last and any improvement to Central Station is welcome - it's a hovel.
We've seen how Liverpool ONE gets so busy and buzzing at the weekends and if they can recreate this here too then it will transform this part of the city centre. I'm a bit worried Bold Street might lose it's character though.
The area is really beginning to take shape and will certainly be another great area for Liverpool City Center!
Pics people :PDT_Piratz_26:
y2kinder
09-05-2011, 03:46 PM
With its first tenants lined up, and building well under way, can the new Central Village development save the Ropewalks from its recent, turbulent history? David Lloyd looks at the blueprints.
More... (http://www.sevenstreets.com/talk-and-opinion/whats-happening-with-central-village/)
Urgghh... Opinions like this really annoy me - they're only half way through building the car park, they've not even started anything else, yet the story is just another moan!
I for one am very pleased with this development! I have lived on Wood Street and worked in Clayton Square for the past 4 years and since Liverpool One opened, this part of town has been DEAD!
This development will bring life back into the area, and I'm pleased that this will be right on my doorstep. I was very jealous of friends when they moved into One Park West and had everything there, now I can enjoy this new part of the city.
az_gila
09-05-2011, 05:30 PM
...... I'm a bit worried Bold Street might lose it's character though.
The somewhat classy character that Bold Street had in the 60's has already completely gone...:rolleyes:
Howie
09-05-2011, 11:24 PM
Liverpool Central Station to close for Multi-million pound transformation
Liverpool Central Station it was announced today, will close next year between April & August to make way for vast improvements.
http://www.ropewalksliverpool.com/images/made/uploads/images/Untitled-5_725_340_90_s_c1.jpg
Set to include platform expansion, retail expansion and a new glass ceiling and walls, the busiest underground station outside London will become a vibrant exciting entrance to the RopeWalks area and the new Central Village scheme.
More (http://www.ropewalksliverpool.com/blog/view/liverpool-central-station-to-close-for-multi-million-pound-transformation) >>
For more information about the Central Village scheme see www.centralvillageliverpool.com
goldenface
09-07-2011, 12:49 AM
The number of platforms needs to be increased because it's long been a hazard simply because of the size.
Lime Street is not as busy as Central and it has nine platforms. Thousands of people living above and increase in shoppers visiting the new stores, can only add to the current issues which make it hazardous.
They would be wise to consider doubling the amount of platforms at least it as the footfall will increase significantly when this development is completed.
Howie
09-14-2011, 08:56 AM
http://www.staff.ljmu.ac.uk/beshpate/Picture%20012.jpg
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