Great Homer Street

A LIVERPOOL market place is to have a £150m revamp, with plans to build the city’s biggest super- market.

It is hoped Great Homer Street in Everton will experience a major rebirth with Project Jennifer, a scheme that is set to transform the area into the city’s biggest district centre.

If plans get the go-ahead, the site will host a 110,000 sq ft Tesco, a new NHS PCT health centre with a doctor’s surgery and dentist, a new library and nearly 500 new homes.

The site will also host a petrol station and non-food shops, as well as space for 300 outdoor market stalls and an indoor market hall.

It is designed so that the supermarket will start at first- floor level, with other shops and car parking spaces underneath.

The 481 new homes – a mixture of flats and houses – will be built to help bring in new families to the area which has seen the population plummet in the last decade.

The plans include an 11-storey block and another six-storey block providing 74 flats.

The new Tesco would dwarf Liverpool’s current biggest supermarket, Asda at Hunts Cross. continues (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpooldailypost/news/regionalnews/tm_headline=giant-supermarket-plan-to-lead-%2Dpound%2D150m-development%26method=full%26objectid=18364751%26pa ge=2%26siteid=50061-name_page.html)......

That Project Jennifer has been around for years. I'd almost given up on it.

What an inspired solution, build a Tesco!
The vision of our planners knows no bounds.

What an inspired solution, build a Tesco!
The vision of our planners knows no bounds.


What do you suggest they build there instead? The area is a wasteland and all they are trying to do is re-create a sustainable community with amenities. Nobody is going to move into these new homes if the only place to shop is a Bargain Booze and newsagent. If you read the article fully you'll see there is far more planned than just a Tesco.

Agree Ste. Where's the nearest supermarket? Utting Avenue? Broad Lane? "Let them eat cake (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/227600.html)", eh Harry:unibrow:

Agree Ste. Where's the nearest supermarket? Utting Avenue? Broad Lane? "Let them eat cake (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/227600.html)", eh Harry:unibrow:

It'd be the newish Asda in Breckfield Road North, discounting the frozen food store on the current site of the proposed Tesco.

Agree Ste. Where's the nearest supermarket? Utting Avenue? Broad Lane? "Let them eat cake (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/227600.html)", eh Harry:unibrow:

Odd to misuse that phrase to actually support some wierd US-style Tesco community. 'Let them eat cake', or 'let's design an environment where this community have no choice but to buy from our plc'?


Id've thought it'd better to find some way of supporting local people to re-open their own grocers/butchers/whatever on Liverpool's high-streets.
Do we want passive consumers for the benefit of Tesco's profits or do we want people being able to provide their own choices?

Id've thought it'd better to find some way of supporting local people to re-open their own grocers/butchers/whatever on Liverpool's high-streets.
Do we want passive consumers for the benefit of Tesco's profits or do we want people being able to provide their own choices?

I think most people nowadays prefer the convenience of Tesco instead of having to go to separate grocers/butchers/whatever (and having nowhere to park when they do so). Whether that's a good thing or not I don't know, but it's a fact.

Odd to misuse that phrase to actually support some wierd US-style Tesco community. 'Let them eat cake', or 'let's design an environment where this community have no choice but to buy from our plc'?


Id've thought it'd better to find some way of supporting local people to re-open their own grocers/butchers/whatever on Liverpool's high-streets.
Do we want passive consumers for the benefit of Tesco's profits or do we want people being able to provide their own choices?
Quite presumptuous of you to draw these conclusions from my "Let them eat cake" quote:Colorz_Grey_PDT_24:

Do North Liverpool have any Tesco's at all?

I think most people nowadays prefer the convenience of Tesco instead of having to go to separate grocers/butchers/whatever (and having nowhere to park when they do so). Whether that's a good thing or not I don't know, but it's a fact.

Well indeed...it's convenient to dump used-fridges by the side of roads, it's convenient to piss in the sink, it's convenient to do a lot of things...
I think you lived abroad you might see 'convenience culture' as not such a great aspect of the British way.

Remember a lot of older people in this city don't have cars and would like to be liberated from the fear of going out after dark, by a high-street of busy night-time activity rather than a killed-by-supermarket retail-free dead-zone populated primarily by boorish drunks and scary-looking gangs.

Admittedly there ARE many lazy-arses who get home from work and just want a 5min microwave supper, but there are also many who don't mind a bit of cooking and who GIVEN THE CHOICE and wouldn't turn down the chance to purchase some decent local fresh ingredients at around half the price the supermarkts sell them for- but, of course, you very soon don't get that choice when a multiple scews the market.

It should be written into the contract for Tesco to operate in cities that they can only buy already existing properties on the high-street, and franchise them to local grocers et al to make a success out of. And that they can only continue operations if their activity stimulates small independent competition.

Do North Liverpool have any Tesco's at all?

Bootle Strand :Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:

Then give Everton a Tesco now!

They maybe Northern Scousers but still to see any of them go without a Tesco.:Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:

Well indeed...it's convenient to dump used-fridges by the side of roads, it's convenient to piss in the sink, it's convenient to do a lot of things...
I think you lived abroad you might see 'convenience culture' as not such a great aspect of the British way.

Remember a lot of older people in this city don't have cars and would like to be liberated from the fear of going out after dark, by a high-street of busy night-time activity rather than a killed-by-supermarket retail-free dead-zone populated primarily by boorish drunks and scary-looking gangs.

Admittedly there ARE many lazy-arses who get home from work and just want a 5min microwave supper, but there are also many who don't mind a bit of cooking and who GIVEN THE CHOICE and wouldn't turn down the chance to purchase some decent local fresh ingredients at around half the price the supermarkts sell them for- but, of course, you very soon don't get that choice when a multiple scews the market.

It should be written into the contract for Tesco to operate in cities that they can only buy already existing properties on the high-street, and franchise them to local grocers et al to make a success out of. And that they can only continue operations if their activity stimulates small independent competition.

Sorry but your whole argument is ridiculous. I don't "piss in the sink" but I do shop at Tesco. I wouldn't want to go to a butcher, grocer or fishmonger even if it was there. People had the choice and they chose supermarkets.

Sorry but your whole argument is ridiculous. I don't "piss in the sink" but I do shop at Tesco. I wouldn't want to go to a butcher, grocer or fishmonger even if it was there. People had the choice and they chose supermarkets.

Oh ok then.

Then give Everton a Tesco now!

They maybe Northern Scousers but still to see any of them go without a Tesco.:Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:

well, we do have a Sainsburys in Walton .. that's a bit more up-market than Netto or KwikSave :D

All your arguments are tosh. I don't go to Tesco's but I do piss in the sink (especially if sleeping out) :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

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All your arguments are tosh. I don't go to Tesco's but I do piss in the sink (especially if sleeping out) :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Another great reply.

Everyone takin notes?

Reminds me of the Supercharge track "She Moved the Dishes First", when Albie Donnely extols the virtues of his classy girlfriend, because she moves the dishes first before pissing in the sink.

well, we do have a Sainsburys in Walton .. that's a bit more up-market than Netto or KwikSave :D

I go to Sainsbury's In Woolton, they sell sausage rolls that are food of the gods worthy!:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Woolton is a worthy area too, Sainsbury's, Tesco's, Fish and chip shop, various pubs, some meduim place above a pub( I wouldn't go near It though), wood like parks and Hunts Cross up the road.

It should be called Godton instead.

Odd to misuse that phrase to actually support some wierd US-style Tesco community. 'Let them eat cake', or 'let's design an environment where this community have no choice but to buy from our plc'?


Id've thought it'd better to find some way of supporting local people to re-open their own grocers/butchers/whatever on Liverpool's high-streets.
Do we want passive consumers for the benefit of Tesco's profits or do we want people being able to provide their own choices?


Can you trust Local Grocers, Butchers or whatever though anymore than Tesco?

Reminds me of the Supercharge track "She Moved the Dishes First", when Albie Donnely extols the virtues of his classy girlfriend, because she moves the dishes first before pissing in the sink.

In all fairness I very rarely piss anywhere OTHER than the wash-basin. Since I picked up the habit I can't see why I ever pissed in the toilet.

More questionable perhaps, given half the chance I'll do it away from home too in pubs, clubs, etc ....I mean I'm quite responsible but there must be others of the faith who aren't, so er...when you're next thinking of taking a bit of time-out by splashing your face in the pub sink, think on eh chaps....


I knew there was a point to this thread.

Are you taking the piss or what?

Can you trust Local Grocers, Butchers or whatever though anymore than Tesco?

Do you want deserted high-streets? The fear's killing a lot of our old people and keeping them housebound.

I just want choice. And a fair-playing field.

We'll always need supermarkets for cheap tinned-tomatos. The t***s.

Are you taking the piss or what?

Like I say, I refuse to struggle with toilet-seats, splashback, or target alignment.

I use the sink. It's the only way.

Do you want deserted high-streets? The fear's killing a lot of our old people and keeping them housebound.

I just want choice. And a fair-playing field.

We'll always need supermarkets for cheap tinned-tomatos. The t***s.

...and cheap biscuits and sausage-roll multipacks. Oh and maybe fishfingers.

...and cheap biscuits and sausage-roll multipacks. Oh and maybe fishfingers.

A good healthy diet, Max! :037:

Do you want deserted high-streets? The fear's killing a lot of our old people and keeping them housebound.

I just want choice. And a fair-playing field.

We'll always need supermarkets for cheap tinned-tomatos. The t***s.

They'd have the fear of being housebound either way.:Colorz_Grey_PDT_24:

Since when are high streets deserted?

They'd have the fear of being housebound either way.:Colorz_Grey_PDT_24:

Since when are high streets deserted?

The "High Street" concept is one I've never associated with Merseyside.
Isn't it darn sarf somewhere?

They'd have the fear of being housebound either way.:Colorz_Grey_PDT_24:

Since when are high streets deserted?

Oh c'mon Maxie it doesn't have be that way.
What's wrong with having a local shop LESS than 15mins walk away in the fuggin snow,from your gang-ridden* amenity-free low-dense cul-de-sac, where you can buy cheap local stuff from the alottments, meaning you've got a bit more cash to spend your fuel allowance on maybe heating more than one room at a time? This is the reality for a lot of good people who deserve an awful lot more out of life.

It's ok for the 'young' and the mobile.

Since when are the high-streets deserted??
Taken a stroll down Prescott/Kenny Rds at night lately? What about Wavertree Road? Oh aye they've got a supermarket like.....

Such a waste. Makes me weep.

*oh btw I'm not saying that the estates ARE neccessarily "gang-ridden" but that's the fear that keep a lot of our most vulnerable citizens locked away.

It's not good enough. We treat our f*ckin horses better than we treat our elderly in this country.

The "High Street" concept is one I've never associated with Merseyside.
Isn't it darn sarf somewhere?

Eh?!

Wavo High St, Wavertree Rd, Prescott Rd, Park Rd....there's a bit of list Phil surely?

Oh c'mon Maxie it doesn't have be that way.
What's wrong with having a local shop LESS than 15mins walk away in the fuggin snow,from your gang-ridden* amenity-free low-dense cul-de-sac, where you can buy cheap local stuff from the alottments, meaning you've got a bit more cash to spend your fuel allowance on maybe heating more than one room at a time? This is the reality for a lot of good people who deserve an awful lot more out of life.

It's ok for the 'young' and the mobile.

Since when are the high-streets deserted??
Taken a stroll down Prescott/Kenny Rds at night lately? What about Wavertree Road? Oh aye they've got a supermarket like.....

Such a waste. Makes me weep.

*oh btw I'm not saying that the estates ARE neccessarily "gang-ridden" but that's the fear that keep a lot of our most vulnerable citizens locked away.

It's not good enough. We treat animals better than we treat our elderly in this country.

Where do you live in London TE?

Stoke Newington.

Stoke Newington.
Fair enough. Lots of local shops there. I used to live nearby Clissold Park. Done my washing in the laundrette in the shops nearby. (Danm you for neutralising my loaded question!:) )

The High Street, Turkish bit, rather than the gentrified nimby section.

It's just a unique happy-accident of relatively night-time safety and dirt-cheap food.

It annoys me that I can buy the same ingredients, any time day-or-night, in Stokie for about a third of the price, than my mum has to pay up on Olive Mount- if you can even find them- and where the last horse leaves town by 6pm.

Liverpool deserves better, and Stokie's my blueprint.

Oh c'mon Maxie it doesn't have be that way.
What's wrong with having a local shop LESS than 15mins walk away in the fuggin snow,from your gang-ridden* amenity-free low-dense cul-de-sac, where you can buy cheap local stuff from the alottments, meaning you've got a bit more cash to spend your fuel allowance on maybe heating more than one room at a time? This is the reality for a lot of good people who deserve an awful lot more out of life.

It's ok for the 'young' and the mobile.

Since when are the high-streets deserted??
Taken a stroll down Prescott/Kenny Rds at night lately? What about Wavertree Road? Oh aye they've got a supermarket like.....

Such a waste. Makes me weep.

*oh btw I'm not saying that the estates ARE neccessarily "gang-ridden" but that's the fear that keep a lot of our most vulnerable citizens locked away.

It's not good enough. We treat our f*ckin horses better than we treat our elderly in this country.

Aye, you live In London so how can you say Prescott and Kenny Road are deserted? They may have been before you were In London but you live In London now.

Most local Tescos now are less than 15 minutes walk around South Liverpool.

Local Butchers and Grocers are more known to be expensive as well, so how do you think the two would benefit the elderly?

The Elderly might as well fear everywhere then, gangs go anywhere these days!

Weap?:Smiliz_Kingz_PDT_13

I find weaping real hard to do for barely anything.

too much haste:rolleyes:

The High Street, Turkish bit, rather than the gentrified nimby section.

It's just a unique happy-accident of relatively night-time safety and dirt-cheap food.

It annoys me that I can buy the same ingredients, any time day-or-night, in Stokie for about a third of the price, than my mum has to pay up on Olive Mount- if you can even find them- and where the last horse leaves town by 6pm.

Liverpool deserves better, and Stokie's my blueprint.

The trouble is though with Stoke Newington, most of their local shop labour are black market immigrants.

Because I go back.

The grocers are so cheap here because:
1.all the gear comes from local alotments,
and 2. the Turks who own these shops are able to sell to a large Turkish community who cook from scratch and refuse to pay over the odds.

Other than for tins and household stuff, the Morrisons doesn't get a look in.

So, in Liverpool, local people selling local green **** and in quantites to keep the prices low. More people being able to eat well, I'd say that's a great aim.

It's that simple basically. There just has to be enough demand for fresh produce so that the price stays low.

Oh, and busy, alive, mixed, 24hr high streets,are safe 24 hr high streets.

The trouble is though with Stoke Newington, most of their local shop labour are black market immigrants.

Well yeah, family ties an all, but you can't say they're not paid the going rate because they are. More so.

It's the only place in London you can afford to eat well on next to nothing. £12-14 for two weeks/5 bags worth of vegetables, and that's every day.

Everwhere else it's like the rest of the country. ****.

Well yeah, family ties an all, but you can't say they're not paid the going rate because they are. More so.
How much are they paid more so?

Eh?!

Wavo High St, Wavertree Rd, Prescott Rd, Park Rd....there's a bit of list Phil surely?

When has a Scouser ever said "I'm going to the High Street"?
It's "To the Shops", "Going to Town", "Doing the Messages", or they'll name the locality.
Park Road is my High Street! :celb (23):

Because I go back.

The grocers are so cheap here because:
1.all the gear comes from local alotments,
and 2. the Turks who own these shops are able to sell to a large Turkish community who cook from scratch and refuse to pay over the odds.

Other than for tins and household stuff, the Morrisons doesn't get a look in.

So, in Liverpool, local people selling local green **** and in quantites to keep the prices low. More people being able to eat well, I'd say that's a great aim.

It's that simple basically. There just has to be enough demand for fresh produce so that the price stays low.

Oh, and busy, alive, mixed, 24hr high streets,are safe 24 hr high streets.

You go back but don't live there to judge enough.

Cheap? Different shops, different prices. Local shops I've seen are more expensive. Junk food is cheaper too. Meat in the Butchers around here is more expensive than In Tesco.

Why mention Turks? We not talking about selling produce to one group of nationality.

I wouldn't trust local markets anymore than supermarkets as long as theirs people workings in either place.

Bollocks, you can get attacked In a public area and people won't give a **** to even see If your alright. It's just as bad as going through a more emptier area, except gangs will be more confident of not being caught I an emptier area.

Allotments eh? Good for growing food, bad for breathing in air when near any because the selfish *******s are always burning something.

You go back but don't live there to judge enough.

Cheap? Different shops, different prices. Local shops I've seen are more expensive. Junk food is cheaper too. Meat in the Butchers around here is more expensive than In Tesco.

Why mention Turks? We not talking about selling produce to one group of nationality.

I wouldn't trust local markets anymore than supermarkets as long as theirs people workings in either place.

Bollocks, you can get attacked In a public area and people won't give a **** to even see If your alright. It's just as bad as going through a more emptier area, except gangs will be more confident of not being caught I an emptier area.

Allotments eh? Good for growing food, bad for breathing in air when near any because the selfish *******s are always burning something.


"...you don't live there to judge enough."
Yeah well whatever Max.

Also, word to the wise, if you're not going to read what the person's actually said there isn't much basis for discussion is there?
And I'm not really into the tedium of arguing for the sake of arguing, or going round in circles so I'll swerve em' if you don't mind.

When has a Scouser ever said "I'm going to the High Street"?
It's "To the Shops", "Going to Town", "Doing the Messages", or they'll name the locality.
Park Road is my High Street! :celb (23):

Depends what Scouser(s) you're talking about.
I've said it. I've heard it said.

Doesn't matter what you call it though does it- we (still)have things you might identify as 'high-streets.'

"...you don't live there to judge enough."
Yeah well whatever Max.

Also, word to the wise, if you're not going to read what the person's actually said there isn't much basis for discussion is there?
And I'm not really into the tedium of arguing for the sake of arguing, or going round in circles so I'll swerve em' if you don't mind.

Not much basis when you assume I didn't read what your saying Indeed,:Colorz_Grey_PDT_24:

What was good about the rows of local shops, i'm thinking of those under the tennies in Soho Street though there's still some rows in Stanley Road facing where the old hospital was and in William Henry st and County Road etc is they are not just shops but where the local oldies meet (or used to) to have a natter. All the headscarfed mothers would be in there gabbing away so it was like a community spirit for them, just a short walk away from their homes. Somewhere just to go and get out and catch up on things. It was said in an earlier posting that it is cheaper than supermarkets but I don't think this is the case and these days people just don't want to visit 3 or 4 shops to reel in the newspapers, fruit, veg, toilet rolls etc but it must be hard for some of the oldies to get to these big supermarket sites.