View Full Version : Date Stones and signs around Liverpool
Thanks to Chris for suggesting this thread :). Here's an example...
The old Dairy, Garston:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/124/330926531_dd767a3fe8.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/330926531/)
The Slaughter House, Garston:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/330925409_ff276fdd8b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/330925409/)
Above the ProFlex Gym, Garston:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/132/330924928_8d9c9a261f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/330924928/)
Speke Hall:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/149/330046144_9c42f9e031.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/330046144/)
Speke Hall:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/131/330045219_d94a347696.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/330045219/)
Croxteth Hall, Home Farm:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/329087594_f34200dcf8.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/329087594/)
PhilipG 12-23-2006, 07:26 PM Great idea.
Could we have close-ups and the whole building please?
I know where there's a beast and a date, together.
Not far from me.
I'll snap it tomorrow.
I will endeavor to provide both, close up and whole building.
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/245396850/)
ChrisGeorge 12-23-2006, 07:33 PM Hi Kev
Glad you like the idea of this thread. Years ago I did some pencil drawings of old local datestones for a projected history book I was going to write. I was just a teenager at the time. Another datestone worth photographing is on Springwood Cottages, Brocklebank Lane and Mather Avenue, the date "1684" enclosed in a heart with initials. "The Cottage" on Springwood Avenue, south of Allerton Hall, has the date "1639" above the main door. Also the house known as "The Three Sixes" on Aigburth Road near Aigburth Vale at the entrance to Fulwood Park and opposite the gates of Sefton Park: the datestone states "1666" and gave the name to the house. An old photograph of the house appears in Robert Griffiths' The History of the Royal and Ancient Park of Toxteth Liverpool (1907). I think the old date stone of the original Brook House is set in the wall of the bowling green of the present Brook House on Smithdown Road. It is also pictured in Griffiths' book.
Chris
marky 12-24-2006, 01:42 AM I suppose the ultimate date is on the gate of 'Park Lodge'...AD 1207. I'm not sure what, if any, is original in this building, though.
ChrisGeorge 12-24-2006, 02:07 AM I suppose the ultimate date is on the gate of 'Park Lodge'...AD 1207. I'm not sure what, if any, is original in this building, though.
Hi Marky
Certainly the date on the gate "1207" is based on the designation in Robert Griffiths' history of Toxteth as the "Higher Lodge" of King John but whether such a lodge was actually built in 1207 at that spot or sometime during the middle ages appears unknown. I somehow think 1207 was a bit early for the house to be built. As you probably know there are pictured bits and pieces of slabs of sandstone that were supposedly from the facade of the original lodge photographed on the lawn of the house shown in Griffiths' book (p. 26).
I have started another thread on Toxteth Park Higher and Lower Lodges (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?p=30364#post30364) where I speak in detail about both lodges.
Chris
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/79/263173944_b95683852e.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/263173944/)
I suppose the ultimate date is on the gate of 'Park Lodge'...AD 1207. I'm not sure what, if any, is original in this building, though.
Not sure it counts as a date 'stamp' as such. It fascinates me this gate. Thousands of people drive past it every day. I wonder if they realize its significance.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/91/251271995_1aa9c523a4.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/251271995/)
This is on the 'Wedding Shop' building in St George's Place.
The initials are 'N S W B'
Anyone know what these stand for?
PhilipG 12-24-2006, 02:37 PM This is on the 'Wedding Shop' building in St George's Place.
The initials are 'N S W B'
Anyone know what these stand for?
North and South Wales Bank.
PhilipG 12-24-2006, 02:40 PM Aigburth Road/Brentwood Avenue.
lindylou 12-24-2006, 02:46 PM PhilipG,
There's a similar one on Walton Breck rd, L4.
Must take a picture sometime.
The dairy has now been converted into flats. I remember when it was open as a dairy. :)
ChrisGeorge 12-24-2006, 02:49 PM Nice pic, Philip, of the carved datestone on the former dairy at Aigburth Road and Brentwood Avenue! :celb (23):
Chris
PhilipG 12-24-2006, 03:02 PM PhilipG,
There's a similar one on Walton Breck rd, L4.
Must take a picture sometime.
The dairy has now been converted into flats. I remember when it was open as a dairy. :)
Thanks Lindy & Chris.
Batty's has also been converted into flats.
Aigburth Road was too busy earlier to cross and take a wide shot of the building.
Besides, I didn't have time.
Frankly, the rest of the building isn't very interesting.
North and South Wales Bank.
fantastic stuff!!
ChrisGeorge 12-24-2006, 09:13 PM Hi all
In regard to the gates of the Higher Lodge with the date "1207" on them, though these are obviously new gates with the date of 1207 given to commemorate the fact that the house at this location was the lodge of the Royal Park founded by King John, it brings to mind that there was (or is) a well in Garston where the old mill stood, almost opposite to St. Mary's Church that had the date "1292." Coincidentally, this is the same year Adam de Gerstan gave monastic lands in the area to the monks of Stanlaw Abbey and Upholland. I spoke to the late Stanley Harris, a local historian, in the early Sixties, and his view was that the date was added later by somebody who knew something of that history. Actual dates on buildings etc are rare before the 1500's and would in any case more likely to be in Roman numerals not arabic numerals.
Chris
PhilipG 12-24-2006, 09:28 PM This 1207 date has only gone up comparitively recently.
I'm sure they have the signed deeds from King John to substantiate such an exact claim. :celb (6): :celb (23): :037: :Colorz_Grey_PDT_24:
ChrisGeorge 12-25-2006, 03:29 AM This 1207 date has only gone up comparitively recently.
I'm sure they have the signed deeds from King John to substantiate such an exact claim. :celb (6): :celb (23): :037: :Colorz_Grey_PDT_24:
Well maybe they do. In fact it might be interesting to see what the present owner of Park Lodge does have in terms of deeds. Perhaps I am overly skeptical, but I would somehow doubt they have anything that dates the property to 1207 but that the date was put on the gates on the basis that King John gave the charter to Liverpool in 1207 and that he also ordered the creation of the royal forest.
Chris
PhilipG 12-25-2006, 12:52 PM Well maybe they do. In fact it might be interesting to see what the present owner of Park Lodge does have in terms of deeds. Perhaps I am overly skeptical, but I would somehow doubt they have anything that dates the property to 1207 but that the date was put on the gates on the basis that King John gave the charter to Liverpool in 1207 and that he also ordered the creation of the royal forest.
Chris
Chris,
I put all the smileys on to show I was joking.
ChrisGeorge 12-25-2006, 01:04 PM Chris,
I put all the smileys on to show I was joking.
I kind of thought you did, although the topic of whether there is documentation for the property going back that far (for the land, if not the house) is still a valid one.
Chris
marky 12-27-2006, 10:25 AM St Marys, Irvine Street, Edge Hill. There is a date of 1812 on the drainpipes of this church...unusual. There was some repair-work to the Church and surrounding wall at the time of this pic (Sept 2005).
MissInformed 12-27-2006, 10:35 AM great spot marky!:)
ChrisGeorge 12-27-2006, 03:02 PM St Marys, Irvine Street, Edge Hill. There is a date of 1812 on the drainpipes of this church...unusual. There was some repair-work to the Church and surrounding wall at the time of this pic (Sept 2005).
Nice, Marky! I agree that dates on drainpipes are unusual, although I have seen dates and designs on drainpipes before, as in the below example from Alexandra Hall on Aberystwyth promenade, Wales, found on the BBC Mid Wales Website (http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/mid/sites/aberystwyth/pages/drainpipepicture.shtml).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/mid/sites/aberystwyth/images/drainpipe_340x255.jpg
theninesisters 12-27-2006, 03:22 PM Every church bell in Liverpool has an inscription on from when it was cast, the date, inscriptions to do with the bell/church and usually a verse from the Bible or well known local verse.
Possibly the easiest way to date a bell is to look for the date!
The inscription on Great George - the 14 Ton Bell in Liverpool Cathedral (for example) reads:
Make a Joyful Noise unto the Lord All Ye Lands
To the Glory of God
in Thankfulness for Great Mercies
Received and in Affectionate Remembrance
of the City of Liverpool
William Baron Vestey of Kingswood
and His Wife Evelyn
with
Sir Edmund Hoyle Vestey Baronet
and His Wife Ellen
Gave Me in the year
1937
And in Memory of King George V
Named me
Great George
MissInformed 12-27-2006, 03:45 PM that's a brilliant piece of info:)
Here's 4 nice examples found on the old Bryant and May (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217&highlight=bryant) houses in Garston:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/135/336257779_88da5b1fff.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/336257779/)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/134/336257675_c551861bdd.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/336257675/)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/160/336257559_e187853e6c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/336257559/)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/149/336257494_dc2e5a658a.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/336257494/)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/142/336257342_f7d4f0032b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/336257342/)
Found this date stone on The Old Police Station down Lark Lane (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2999) today. I've included a few more carved stones too:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/161/336314716_2012b1a79c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/336314716/)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/163/336314812_edd5ce452e.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/336314812/)
^^Liverbird?^^
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/336311676_47c6ef67c7.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/336311676/)
^^Liverbird^^
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/134/336311953_a029f8fe21.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/336311953/)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/144/336311822_2abf33b655.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/336311822/)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/147/336314170_370ee24299.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/336314170/)
MissInformed 12-28-2006, 05:57 PM great pics kev.
it's a great building. thank god it's still there!:)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/147/336314170_370ee24299.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/336314170/)
^^ Its very similar to Garston Police Station:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/112/269210172_572c695580.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/269210172/)
ChrisGeorge 12-28-2006, 06:58 PM Nice, Kev! I take it you meant "Bryant and May" and have taken the liberty of correcting the spelling.
Chris
Nice, Kev! I take it you meant "Bryant and May" and have taken the liberty of correcting the spelling.
Chris
lol Chris, what did I originally put? :). Sometimes I'm so keen to get my pics up :Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:
ChrisGeorge 12-28-2006, 07:08 PM lol Chris, what did I originally put? :). Sometimes I'm so keen to get my pics up :Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:
Hi Kev
You had Bryan and May . . . maybe you were thinking of the lead singer of the Pretty Things, Brian May. ;)
Chris
Hi Kev
You had Bryan and May . . . maybe you were thinking of the lead singer of the Pretty Things, Brian May. ;)
Chris
lol, Bryan and May :lol::lol:
Lark Lane.
No Larks around there though.:shock:
Hi folks
Had a little wander around Mount Pleasant and Rodney street today...
PhilipG 12-29-2006, 06:41 PM Hi folks
Had a little wander around Mount Pleasant and Rodney street today...
What does the word say above "97", please?
ive no idea at all im afraid
its now a student housing shop
facing pumpernickles on the corner of clarence st
PhilipG 12-29-2006, 07:17 PM ive no idea at all im afraid
its now a student housing shop
facing pumpernickles on the corner of clarence st
I wasn't expecting the 1936 street directory to still list the firm that did that mosaic.... but it does! :celb (23):
97 Mount Pleasant: Harriman, Edwin & Hubert Edgar, M.P.S. chemists.
Until a few years ago it sold stained glass, and it's good to see that the stained glass windows are still there.
wow!!
thats a great bit of hunting!!
will have to get some of them directories
:)
Norm NZ 12-29-2006, 09:51 PM Here's 4 nice examples found on the old Bryant and May (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217&highlight=bryant) houses in Garston::
"Hey Kev"! I remember those houses! is the old 'Cinder Path' down to Banks Rd still there? :celb (23):
ChrisGeorge 12-30-2006, 03:01 AM I wasn't expecting the 1936 street directory to still list the firm that did that mosaic.... but it does! :celb (23):
97 Mount Pleasant: Harriman, Edwin & Hubert Edgar, M.P.S. chemists.
Until a few years ago it sold stained glass, and it's good to see that the stained glass windows are still there.
Maybe get us a pic of the whole building, bunf or Philip. Thanks in advance if you can!
Another thought is that when the mosaic was done possibly the firm was just Edwin Harriman and that Harriman later on took Hubert Edgar (or is that Edgar Hubert?) as his partner, so that by 1936 it was both names. The mosaic's design looks art nouveau which would date it to 1890's to 1910 or so.
All my best
Chris
MissInformed 12-30-2006, 10:13 AM i thought yesterday, when me and bunf saw that mosaic, it might be a new thread?
I have seen quite a few around the city lately.
"Hey Kev"! I remember those houses! is the old 'Cinder Path' down to Banks Rd still there? :celb (23):
Yes its still there and used many times as it has always been. I used it as a kid as a cut through.
taffy 01-05-2007, 05:38 PM This school was opened in 1897 by the Wesleyan Methodist Church. It remained as a school until the early 1920s when the school moved to the local council Gilmour School. The building was then used as a Methodist church hall and community centre. With the merger of the adjacent Island Rd Methodist Church with the Garston United Reform Church onto one site, the future of the old school building is under discussion and is uncertain at the moment. The church needs to raise about £1 million GBP to refurbish the church hall and main church building. Offers of donations should be addressed to the Garston Park Church treasurer.
marky 01-06-2007, 10:34 PM SCFL,
159, Regent Road
A plain looking building but one of the inscribed stones mentions the Blitz, the second states the architect/builder:
THIS BUILDING WAS ERECTED
TO REPLACE ONE DESTROYED
BY ENEMY ACTION IN MAY 1941
AND WAS OPENED BY
BRIG. GEN. W.N.BICKET O.B.E.
CHAIRMAN & MANAGING DIRECTOR
ON 5th MARCH 1953.
MONTAGU EVANS & SON
ARCHITECTS
2 BRUNSWICK SQ. LONDON
1952
RICHARD COSTAIN & SONS
(LIVERPOOL) LTD.
CONTRACTORS
taffy 01-07-2007, 11:24 PM Interesting terracotta tile work typical of Coop buildings of the period around the turn of the 20th C
taffy 01-26-2007, 11:04 PM Interesting limestone building built 1931.
DaisyChains 04-06-2007, 08:50 PM Noticed this lovely post today....facing St Nicholas' Church, by the old Georges Dock site.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Carrie132/06-04-07_1259.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Carrie132/06-04-07_1302.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Carrie132/06-04-07_1301.jpg
taffy 04-06-2007, 09:40 PM Noticed this lovely post today....facing St Nicholas' Church, by the old Georges Dock site.
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These are the entrance pillars to the floating roadway leading to the floating Landing Stage
ChrisGeorge 04-06-2007, 09:56 PM These are the entrance pillars to the floating roadway leading to the floating Landing Stage
Thanks, Taffy. The Floating Roadway was certainly one of the marvels of Liverpool that has been lost. :(
Chris
taffy 05-25-2007, 04:55 PM Spotted on a row of terraced houses in Lord St, Garston. This row must have been built by the Tushingham family who owned extensive brickworks in the Garston area in the mid to late 19th C. They later moved to Huyton and Whiston.
RGT date stone on second terraced block in attached photo
taffy 05-30-2007, 09:57 AM Built 1885 when the Lark Lane of Toxteth Park was under the control of the County of Lancashire Police and not Liverpool Police
ChrisGeorge 05-30-2007, 10:11 AM Thanks, Taffy! Great stuff!
Chris
taffy 06-07-2007, 10:53 PM This 1906 date stone is on a row of shops in Smithdown Place, Wavertree. Named after the builder Charles Berrington who built many of the houses on the Heathfield Estate off Church Rd, Wavertree
taffy 06-10-2007, 08:59 PM Pebble dash exteriors had well and truly arrived in Wavertree by 1926. Spotted on a small parade of shops between Lance Lane and Mosspits Lane.
ChrisGeorge 06-10-2007, 09:12 PM The following is a yeoman's cottage from the seventeenth century at Springwood, Garston, on Mather Avenue. The datestone under the mullioned window in the gable, states within a chiselled heart, along with initials, "1684." Possibly one of my friends on Yo Liverpool! could get a better photograph of the datestone. Thanks in advance.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1062/527605084_1b81861a05_b.jpg
taffy 06-10-2007, 10:00 PM The following is a yeoman's cottage from the seventeenth century at Springwood, Garston, on Mather Avenue. The datestone under the mullioned window in the gable, states within a chiselled heart, along with initials, "1684." Possibly one of my friends on Yo Liverpool! could get a better photograph of the datestone. Thanks in advance.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1062/527605084_1b81861a05_b.jpg
No problem Chris, I'll do it tomorrow. One minor point Springwood is in Allerton not Garston !! It's the L19 post code that confuses people.
ChrisGeorge 06-10-2007, 10:07 PM Thanks, Taffy. As you know, the districts kind of shade into each other.
Chris
taffy 06-12-2007, 11:46 PM The following is a yeoman's cottage from the seventeenth century at Springwood, Garston, on Mather Avenue. The datestone under the mullioned window in the gable, states within a chiselled heart, along with initials, "1684." Possibly one of my friends on Yo Liverpool! could get a better photograph of the datestone. Thanks in advance.
Photo as promised Chris
ChrisGeorge 06-13-2007, 05:44 AM Great. Many thanks, Taffy.
Chris
taffy 06-13-2007, 10:23 AM Once located at the top of Charles Berrington Rd. Demolished early part of the 20th C. See
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=4260337&a=31518811&f=
ChrisGeorge 06-13-2007, 10:51 AM Here's a couple of photographs of me at Tuebrook House getting a photograph of the 1615 date stone above the door, pics courtesy of Gerard. Unfortunately my close-up did not turn out so maybe someone else could get it. :)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1365/543421624_c5a0db7aee_o.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1210/543421618_7c01fec3d9_o.jpg
taffy 06-13-2007, 04:19 PM That ubiquitous Charles Berrington has his name on yet another row of terraced houses he put up.
taffy 06-18-2007, 07:14 PM Spotted high up on SS Matthew and James Church of England Church, Mossley Hill. Church rather narcistically named after its benefactor one Matthew James Glenton. Money left to build the church providing it was built in the township of Garston
http://www.acny.org.uk/venue.php?V=15164
taffy 06-19-2007, 11:37 PM In the Edge Hill district of Liverpool. Above JVC shop sited at the junction of Smithdown Rd L7 and Scholar St L7
taffy 06-27-2007, 04:36 PM 1874 Date stone relates to the time when it was a Wesleyan Methodist Church. The church became St Mary's after WW2 and replaced the previously named St Mary's, Sandown Park which was destroyed by aerial bombing
ChrisGeorge 06-27-2007, 04:42 PM More great pics. Many thanks, Taffy, for your unstinting efforts in photographing these datestones. :handclap:
Chris
taffy 08-20-2007, 08:49 PM This is a covered reservoir on top of Woolton Hill sited surprisingly enough on Reservoir Rd. Date stone near the base of the tower
ChrisGeorge 08-21-2007, 12:32 AM This is a covered reservoir on top of Woolton Hill sited surprisingly enough on Reservoir Rd. Date stone near the base of the tower
Great to see this, Taffy! Many thanks. :PDT11
Chris
Cadfael 08-21-2007, 11:49 AM This is a covered reservoir on top of Woolton Hill sited surprisingly enough on Reservoir Rd. Date stone near the base of the tower
I've still yet to work out which is the highest point in Liverpool, whether it is Liverpool Cathedral, St Peter's Church Woolton or the Reservoir above. I'll need to go up St Peter's woolton again and see what I can see!
taffy 08-23-2007, 06:46 PM Interesting combination of warehouse and office building on Newington, central Liverpool
taffy 09-09-2007, 10:04 PM Renshaw's pub on Renshaw St, central Liverpool. Interesting 1901 date.
ChrisGeorge 09-09-2007, 10:17 PM Renshaw's pub on Renshaw St, central Liverpool. Interesting 1901 date.
I like that. Thanks, Taffy.
Chris
taffy 10-20-2007, 06:39 PM Victoria St was cut through as a new street in the last quarter of the 19th C. It runs parallel to Dale St, one of the oldest streets in Liverpool. Essentially it was a slum clearance operation. The slums being replaced by many fine buildings. This one dates from 1885.
Superb pics and info Taffy :handclap::handclap:
taffy 11-16-2007, 01:05 PM Interesting date stone on a recently refurbished Victorian building in central Liverpool
ChrisGeorge 11-16-2007, 01:12 PM Fine photographs. Thanks, Taffy. :handclap:
taffy 11-20-2007, 11:30 PM Interesting Victorian office building in central Liverpool, built 1879.
taffy 11-23-2007, 05:35 PM Nice use of new 2007 plaque mounted in original surround featuring otters fishing. Let's hope Liverpool's itinerent building renovators don't use this as a source of raw materials, such as old stone paving slabs, as they did the original steps.
marky 03-01-2008, 12:00 AM Adelaide Street/Edge Lane. There are several other date-stones on the buildings at the ends of these terraces. I don't normally see date-stones this close to the ground. This stone reads 'Oscar Lindop March 1892'
I know another date-stone with the name Lindop, in Smithdown Road (Lindop's Buildings A.D. 1905)
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee262/south_liverpool/Aquarium.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee262/south_liverpool/Adelaide_Road.jpg
marky 03-01-2008, 12:10 AM Regent Street. Another low-level date-stone. This reads 'This stone was laid by Mrs. L.H.Wright 4th April 1928'
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee262/south_liverpool/Regent_Street_building.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee262/south_liverpool/Regent_Street_datestone.jpg
quincyg 03-01-2008, 12:49 AM only just spotted this thread. I've passed loads of these as well in concentrating on shops and street signs.
still I do have several though not all stones, but all dated stuff
Under St Nicks
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/P1030430.jpg
old Bootle hosp (stone is 1870)
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1145.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1147.jpg
old cinema Seaforth
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1194.jpg
Bootle
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1283.jpg
Rice Lane police station
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1339.jpg
Litherland
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1389.jpg
Kirkdale
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture637.jpg
bridges
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture646.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture695.jpg
Walton
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1349.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1312.jpg
Wavertree
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture968.jpg
DaisyChains 03-01-2008, 01:50 PM Adelaide Street/Edge Lane. There are several other date-stones on the buildings at the ends of these terraces. I don't normally see date-stones this close to the ground. This stone reads 'Oscar Lindop March 1892'
I know another date-stone with the name Lindop, in Smithdown Road (Lindop's 1901)
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee262/south_liverpool/Aquarium.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee262/south_liverpool/Adelaide_Road.jpg
excellent discoveries and pictures sir marky!
how does one become so knowledgable on datestone whereabouts?
or do you cheat?
:)
taffy 03-01-2008, 07:22 PM WDBB stands for West Derby Burial Board
taffy 03-01-2008, 07:36 PM Interesting old terrace
ChrisGeorge 03-01-2008, 07:51 PM Wonderful pics, everyone! Thanks! :handclap:
Chris
John(Zappa) 03-01-2008, 08:54 PM :PDT11 Brilliant pics all.:PDT11
quincyg 03-01-2008, 08:55 PM Interesting old terrace
fascinating stuff. Old Swan is on my list of 'to do' areas. there's so much really old stuff around there
quincyg 03-04-2008, 08:56 PM Bootle
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1444.jpg
Wavertree
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1483.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1488.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1497.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1503.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1505.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1520.jpg
John(Zappa) 03-04-2008, 09:10 PM Excellent Quincyg:handclap:
DaisyChains 03-06-2008, 07:27 PM Brilliant Quincy!
Lots of photos! Just what the forum needs!:handclap:
Superb as usual :handclap:
ChrisGeorge 03-06-2008, 07:56 PM Great photographs, Quincy. I am curious to know where that "1773" drainpipe is in Bootle.
Chris
quincyg 03-06-2008, 08:20 PM Great photographs, Quincy. I am curious to know where that "1773" drainpipe is in Bootle.
Chris
Merton Rd. it's on whats now merseyside health building.
ChrisGeorge 03-06-2008, 08:24 PM Great photographs, Quincy. I am curious to know where that "1773" drainpipe is in Bootle.
Chris
Merton Rd. it's on whats now merseyside health building.
Right. Okay, excellent. I was also curious about the bird on the drainpipe, about whether it is meant to be a Liver Bird, or whether it is a heraldic eagle, such as Lord Derby has on his crest. Do you know what the building used to be be originally?
Chris
quincyg 03-06-2008, 08:33 PM Right. Okay, excellent. I was also curious about the bird on the drainpipe, about whether it is meant to be a Liver Bird, or whether it is a heraldic eagle, such as Lord Derby has on his crest. Do you know what the building used to be be originally?
Chris
not sure, but Lord Derby's hunting lodge is nearby.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1445.jpg
ChrisGeorge 03-07-2008, 04:25 PM Right. Okay, excellent. I was also curious about the bird on the drainpipe, about whether it is meant to be a Liver Bird, or whether it is a heraldic eagle, such as Lord Derby has on his crest. Do you know what the building used to be be originally?
Chris
not sure, but Lord Derby's hunting lodge is nearby.
Bootle
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1444.jpg
Thanks, Quincy. Then I think I might be right. It is the Eagle and Child Crest of the Earls of Derby, as in this example from Castle Rushen on the Isle of Man. The hunting lodge is new to me as well. :rolleyes: Where is that located precisely? Is it open to the public and how old is it?
Chris
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2384/2316145869_0ddbbe74b5_o.gif
quincyg 03-07-2008, 06:08 PM age..sorry haven't the faintest.
it's a private house from what I can see.
it's on Merton Rd by the roundabout. around the corner is the old tyre place on Hawthorne Rd. watch out for pink anorak woman though and her "who said you can take photos in this street etc etc." giz a mo and I'll put a wee map up.
gregs dad 03-07-2008, 06:27 PM http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee283/exactavarex/P1020506.jpg
Is this the right place for this. I found it in St John`s Church Kirkdale.
Note the spelling J instead G.
PhilipG 03-07-2008, 08:51 PM Quincyg.
I love your photos, but please tell us where they are. :PDT_Aliboronz_11:
quincyg 03-07-2008, 08:52 PM Note the spelling J instead G.
my gt uncle died in WW2 and his roll of honour listing is SerJeant.
nice memorial that though.
quincyg 03-07-2008, 08:59 PM Quincyg.
I love your photos, but please tell us where they are. :PDT_Aliboronz_11:
sorry, still learning the ropes of this site. I'll have to remember to take a pen & paper so I can make a note if it's an area I don't know well. quite often I just spot summat and get off the bus, then quickly on the next one that turns up.
This one is Durning Rd, Edge Hill. Building is next to the Durning pub.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1535.jpg
quincyg 03-08-2008, 04:55 PM Duke Street
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1605.jpg
Victoria St
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1551.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1537.jpg
quincyg 03-08-2008, 05:23 PM can anyone merge this thread with the foundation stones one? they are very similar subjects.
union building Islington
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1575.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1573.jpg
St Dunstans church, Edge Hill
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1503.jpg
edwardo 03-08-2008, 08:12 PM Hang on a mo.Humyak House.......HUMYAK HOUSE...whats that all about.sliped in with no explination,iron shuters ,Tell me more please.Ted
quincyg 03-08-2008, 08:15 PM Hang on a mo.Humyak House.......HUMYAK HOUSE...whats that all about.sliped in with no explination,iron shuters ,Tell me more please.Ted
it's on an old warehouse in Duke St. Paradise St end.
heres a full pic from the English heritage website
http://viewfinder.english-heritage.org.uk/gallery/450/aa0/aa026212.jpg
PhilipG 03-09-2008, 12:40 AM Thanks for the notes.
The first one was a Co-op.
You can tell by the Wheatsheaf logo.
On the top it says (said?) something like Toxteth Co-operative Provident Society, even though it's not in Toxteth.
quincyg 03-09-2008, 12:45 AM Thanks for the notes.
The first one was a Co-op.
You can tell by the Wheatsheaf logo.
On the top it says (said?) something like Toxteth Co-operative Provident Society, even though it's not in Toxteth.
there's a few of the Toxteth branch mosaics across the city.
thanks Phil, I'm making notes now so I don't forget where I saw things :PDT11
skgogosfan 03-09-2008, 09:38 PM Thanks for the notes.
The first one was a Co-op.
You can tell by the Wheatsheaf logo.
On the top it says (said?) something like Toxteth Co-operative Provident Society, even though it's not in Toxteth.
Bump-I have a pic of the floor mosaic,must d/l it for here soon...
Dave.
quincyg 03-09-2008, 09:42 PM Bump-I have a pic of the floor mosaic,must d/l it for here soon...
Dave.
excellent. building was closed when I went past.
skgogosfan 03-10-2008, 06:25 PM I'm trying to think of what date stones I've walked past [or plaques commemorating the building of something]. Almost every building on the north side of Kensington from Farnworth St to past Sheil Rd has one,the terraced houses on the south side,by Low Hill,have one,then further into town we have the Co-Op building on London Rd.,the toilets in Monument Place [yes,really!],the Royal Infirmirary,the coach station,Central library,Clayton Square arcade...there are tons! There's also a nice one on a building on the Dock Rd,by Sandon Dock industrial estate.
Dave.
quincyg 03-10-2008, 10:02 PM 3 from my travels yesterday.
on the wall of the Sydney Jones Library by Abercromby Sq
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1645.jpg
side of St Philip Neri church, Blackburne Place
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1662.jpg
one of the gateposts for Abercromby Sq gardens
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1651.jpg
quincyg 03-10-2008, 10:24 PM 3 from Bootle
think this is an old GPO building? it's on Stanley Rd.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/er61.jpg
by Bootle Town Hall
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/bootleoriel.jpg
summat a bit more modern, Stanley Rd
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture060.jpg
ChrisGeorge 03-10-2008, 10:41 PM I'm trying to think of what date stones I've walked past [or plaques commemorating the building of something]. Almost every building on the north side of Kensington from Farnworth St to past Sheil Rd has one,the terraced houses on the south side,by Low Hill,have one,then further into town we have the Co-Op building on London Rd.,the toilets in Monument Place [yes,really!],the Royal Infirmirary,the coach station,Central library,Clayton Square arcade...there are tons! There's also a nice one on a building on the Dock Rd,by Sandon Dock industrial estate.
Dave.
Hello Dave
I'd love to see photographs if you or someone else could manage it. Thanks!
Chris
ChrisGeorge 03-10-2008, 10:43 PM by Bootle Town Hall
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/bootleoriel.jpg
Very interesting, quincy. Does anybody know anything further about this museum?
Chris
skgogosfan 03-11-2008, 12:26 AM Ooh I forgot,the splendid Natwest on London Rd has 1899 on it,at the top of its riot of red brick decorations.
Dave.
quincyg 03-11-2008, 12:32 AM Hello Dave
I'd love to see photographs if you or someone else could manage it. Thanks!
Chris
I'll be in town tomorrow, well today now. so weather permitting I'll see what I can get. I'll try and do the more interesting or ornate ones.
quincyg 03-11-2008, 12:35 AM Very interesting, quincy. Does anybody know anything further about this museum?
Chris
there's this wee bit on the Sefton Council website
Bootle’s first library was in Oriel Road, by the Town Hall: it opened on 22nd June 1887. The elegant building also housed a museum and art gallery for this thriving Victorian town.
By the 1970s Bootle Library was underused; the building was old, and the nearby resident population was shrinking. With government funding Sefton MBC built a replacement library on Stanley Road, which would be more accessible and nearer the commercial heart of the town. It opened on 17th September 1979 and flourished.
An arson attack in November 2002 resulted in a great deal of damage: after extensive repair work the library re-opened in March 2004.
quincyg 03-11-2008, 10:38 PM not as much around London Rd date wise as I'd have liked. found some but had better luck further afield
London Rd
this is from the Nat West
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1699.jpg
the stone on the loos is a bit of a mess
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1702.jpg
just past TJ's on the right
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1712.jpg
Edmund St
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1743.jpg
old police/fire station Hatton Garden
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1728.jpg
Borough Hotel by Churchill Way
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1733.jpg
courtyard of registrars and coroners offices, Old Hall St
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1750.jpg
St Nicks
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1767.jpg
St Nicholas Place
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1778.jpg
quincyg 03-13-2008, 05:52 PM Knowsley Rd, Bootle
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1869.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1866.jpg
on a house Lower Breck Rd, Tuebrook
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1859.jpg
West Derby village
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1827.jpg
old GPO office (now postal sorting depot)Town Row, West Derby
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1828.jpg
cottage,Yew Tree Lane, West Derby
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1835.jpg
Aintree Rd, Bootle
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1864.jpg
quincyg 03-14-2008, 07:49 PM only 2 interesting ones today
both Walton Village
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1888.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1889.jpg
DaisyChains 03-15-2008, 05:44 PM QuincyG
you are an absolutely brilliant member!
fantastic photos :handclap:
quincyg 03-15-2008, 06:10 PM QuincyG
you are an absolutely brilliant member!
fantastic photos :handclap:
oh don't, you'll make me blush lol.
quincyg 03-16-2008, 06:51 PM George St
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1966.jpg
Sir Thomas St
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1990.jpg
Dale St
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1979.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1936.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1906.jpg
Stanley St
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1903.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1981.jpg
North John St
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture1909.jpg
John(Zappa) 03-16-2008, 06:58 PM QuincyG
you are an absolutely brilliant member!
fantastic photos :handclap:
Absolutely:handclap::handclap:
quincyg 03-19-2008, 04:59 PM Great Georges Rd, Waterloo (very ornate and interesting that the N is reversed)
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture2045.jpg
Church Rd, Waterloo (old police station)
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture2052.jpg
Crosby Village
shops by The Village pub
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture2075.jpg
lindylou 03-19-2008, 05:24 PM QuincyG
you are an absolutely brilliant member!
fantastic photos :handclap:
I'll second that :PDT11
Qunicy you are the roving reporter for Yo :D
quincyg 03-19-2008, 05:28 PM I'll second that :PDT11
Qunicy you are the roving reporter for Yo :D
raving maybe lol:002:
ChrisGeorge 03-20-2008, 02:02 AM Hi quincyg
I love seeing the close-ups of these date stones that most of us only see from street level and are unable to discern the detail. Very fine work, quincy! Thanks! :handclap:
Chris
taffy 03-22-2008, 11:48 PM Not sure who Mr Lindop was. Photographed at Smithdown Place end of Smithdown Rd
taffy 03-24-2008, 08:43 AM On Smithdown Place, Wavertree otherwise known as Penny Lane Corner. Charles Berrington came to live as a poor carter and left as an extremely wealthy man mainly the result of property development.
quincyg 03-28-2008, 09:13 PM I know it's been in the Liverbird section, old police station, Westminster Rd
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture2113.jpg
Great stuff quincyg and taffy.
quincyg 03-30-2008, 06:10 PM Nelson St
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture2165.jpg
Seel St
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture2179.jpg
Victoria St --oh for a decent zoom
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture2217.jpg
quincyg 04-01-2008, 01:03 AM no thanks to my dodgy camera I only got 2 clear shots today
St Patrick's Memorial School and Hall, Park Place
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture2242.jpg
Herculaneum ramp
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture2291.jpg
quincyg 04-02-2008, 07:00 PM first off, apols for the reddish tint on some, got new camera today and had colour set wrong to start with. zoom is great, but doesn't cope with dull weather as well as my old one did.
old Liverpool savings bank, Scottie Rd
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture101.jpg
Throstles Nest, Scottie Rd
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture103.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture104.jpg
Summer Seat
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture122.jpg
loads and loads, cheers! :PDT11
DaisyChains 04-02-2008, 07:30 PM Brilliant pics again Quincy!:handclap:
PhilipG 04-02-2008, 07:37 PM Nelson Street.
There's a story behind that 1887 date, which first appeared a couple of years ago when a new roof was put on the building.
Joseph Sharples has proved that the building was built about 1857, as a factory.
Langdon's, who made tents, etc., took the building over about 1887, but the front is still as it was in the 1850s.
Europleasure took over Langdons in the 1980s and closed the building a few years later.
quincyg 04-03-2008, 07:48 PM Mary Clark Home, Ullet Rd
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture247.jpg
the name is beautifully carved too
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture248.jpg
Queens Drive rail bridge
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture198.jpg
Lark Lane
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture287.jpg
police station
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture285.jpg
St Michaels Rd
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture307.jpg
Aigburth Rd
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture314.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture325.jpg
John(Zappa) 04-03-2008, 07:55 PM :PDT_Piratz_26:Brilliant pics.:PDT_Piratz_26:
Well done:handclap:
quincyg 04-04-2008, 06:45 PM Canal St, Bootle
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture373.jpg
Bootle Town Hall
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture416.jpg
on a house in Trinity Rd, Bootle
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture423.jpg
PhilipG 04-04-2008, 06:54 PM Your new camera, qg?
Much sharper now, and the colour's perfect.
quincyg 04-04-2008, 07:01 PM Your new camera, qg?
Much sharper now, and the colour's perfect.
aye, I've changed the settings so pictures are looking a lot better. it's not as good in dull weather as my Lumix was. it's a swine for batteries though but with the better zoom beggars can't be choosers.
quincyg 04-05-2008, 08:46 PM Sefton St
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture435.jpg
Garston Old Rd
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture460.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture461.jpg
St Mary's Rd, Garston
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture463.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture467.jpg
gregs dad 04-07-2008, 08:37 PM http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee283/exactavarex/P1020676-1.jpg
Anybody know why there are 2 dates on the clock tower of Liverpool Uni
the building is down in books as being built in 1887 but what does 1837 signify. I only noticed this while enlarging a part of a photo.
Hanover Street:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3218/2392263781_eca317e6a5_o.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3218/2392263781_eca317e6a5_o.jpg)
PhilipG 04-07-2008, 08:48 PM http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee283/exactavarex/P1020676-1.jpg
Anybody know why there are 2 dates on the clock tower of Liverpool Uni
the building is down in books as being built in 1887 but what does 1837 signify. I only noticed this while enlarging a part of a photo.
1837 to 1887 is the 50th Anniversary of Victoria's reign.
The building took place between 1889 and 1892.
(Source: Joseph Sharples).
The "Annals of Liverpool" confirm it opened in 1892.
Victoria Buildings, Victoria College, The University, Brownlow Hill.
Opened 17 December 1892. Architect: Alfred Waterhouse.
quincyg 04-07-2008, 09:56 PM Litherland Library
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture564.jpg
gregs dad 04-08-2008, 11:19 AM 1837 to 1887 is the 50th Anniversary of Victoria's reign.
The building took place between 1889 and 1892.
(Source: Joseph Sharples).
The "Annals of Liverpool" confirm it opened in 1892.
Victoria Buildings, Victoria College, The University, Brownlow Hill.
Opened 17 December 1892. Architect: Alfred Waterhouse.
Thanks Philip
PhilipG 04-08-2008, 11:23 AM Thanks Philip
You're welcome, GD.
I see that other people have thought it was built in 1887.
quincyg 04-09-2008, 10:20 PM a few from town today
Mount Pleasant
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture608.jpg
Stanley St
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture659.jpg
Victoria St
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture667.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture674.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2234/2401942936_331eb962fb_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/2401113257_48273f1995_o.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/2401113257_48273f1995_o.jpg)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2082/2401039077_4dfac596d6_o.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2082/2401039077_4dfac596d6_o.jpg)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3266/2401038935_b64540568a_o.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3266/2401038935_b64540568a_o.jpg)
gregs dad 04-10-2008, 02:36 PM http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee283/exactavarex/P1020728.jpg
Don`t follow this signpost for New Brighton
ChrisGeorge 04-10-2008, 03:21 PM http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee283/exactavarex/P1020676-1.jpg
Anybody know why there are 2 dates on the clock tower of Liverpool Uni
the building is down in books as being built in 1887 but what does 1837 signify. I only noticed this while enlarging a part of a photo.
1837 to 1887 is the 50th Anniversary of Victoria's reign.
The building took place between 1889 and 1892.
(Source: Joseph Sharples).
The "Annals of Liverpool" confirm it opened in 1892.
Victoria Buildings, Victoria College, The University, Brownlow Hill.
Opened 17 December 1892. Architect: Alfred Waterhouse.
Thanks, Philip. This should be a good warning that a year on a building may not be when the structure was built but because someone sought to commemorate something, in this case the Silver Jubilee of Queen Victoria. Another example being the date on the gates of 'Park Lodge'..."AD 1207" commemorating the founding of Liverpool in that year and the establishment of the hunting lodge for Toxteth Park. The park was begun by King John although the lodge wasn't necessarily built in that year. Following photo by Kev as posted by him earlier in this thread. Thanks, Kev!
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/91/251271995_1aa9c523a4.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/251271995/)
PhilipG 04-10-2008, 03:32 PM Also beware if a building says "Established ****", as this will most certainly refer to when the Institution or Firm (or whatever) was first created, probably in completely different premises.
A single date - like most of the above - is usually the building's date.
Isn't 50 a Golden anniversary?
quincyg 04-10-2008, 03:38 PM Also beware if a building says "Established ****", as this will most certainly refer to when the Institution or Firm (or whatever) was first created, probably in completely different premises.
A single date - like most of the above - is usually the building's date.
Isn't 50 a Golden anniversary?
yup it is. there were probably a lot of similar things done for her Golden Jubliee as well as her Diamond one (60 yrs). especially as she reigned for so long.
Like the Jubliee Line in London was named to commorate our current monarchs Sliver Jubliee in 1977.
ChrisGeorge 04-10-2008, 03:41 PM Also beware if a building says "Established ****", as this will most certainly refer to when the Institution or Firm (or whatever) was first created, probably in completely different premises.
A single date - like most of the above - is usually the building's date.
Isn't 50 a Golden anniversary?
Good point, Philip, about any sign that says "Established...."
Looks like you're right in terms of 50th wedding anniversaries (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=50+a+Golden+anniversary%3F) being called golden anniversaries.
Actually I am a bit confused because there were coins issued in 1887 for Victoria's "Silver Jubilee" but that would have been her 50th year, whereas the current monarch celebrated hers in 1977, on 25 years. The year of Queen Victoria's Silver Jubilee seems to be variously stated:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Victoria+%22Silver+Jubilee%22
quincyg 04-10-2008, 03:49 PM sounds odd. they are called jubilee whatever the prefix. Silver jubliee, Golden jubliee, Diamond jubilee.
some may think of jubliee meaning silver (25) as it's the one they hear about most often.
PhilipG 04-10-2008, 03:52 PM Good point, Philip, about any sign that says "Established...."
Looks like you're right in terms of 50th wedding anniversaries (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=50+a+Golden+anniversary%3F) being called golden anniversaries.
Actually I am a bit confused because there were coins issued in 1887 for Victoria's "silver jubilee" but that would have been her 50th year, whereas the current monarch celebrated hers in 1977, on 25 years. The year of Victoria jubilee is variously stated:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Victoria+%22Silver+Jubilee%22
Don't know about the coins, Chris, but I don't think there were celebrations for the 25th year of Victoria's reign, which would have been 1862.
marky 04-10-2008, 03:59 PM Re: University/College, Brownlow Hill
I messed my earlier post up. Anyway, there are two information stones on the Brownlow Hill side.
One says University College opened 1892. The other states...the Engineering Laboratories were erected "in the Jubilee year 1887"
I'll transcribe them when I get time.
gregs dad 04-10-2008, 06:11 PM http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee283/exactavarex/P1020720.jpg
Vale Park on the Wirral
taffy 04-12-2008, 12:12 AM This building was once the church school. Now it's the St John's church hall
taffy 04-12-2008, 06:06 PM Stone laid by Mrs Joseph Rawlinson. The Rawlinson family had extensive saw mill interests in Garston
taffy 04-12-2008, 06:12 PM Rather nice Arts and Crafts design for the church hall sign. Hall in Dundonald Rd, Aigburth.
ChrisGeorge 04-12-2008, 06:41 PM Excellent work here, gregs dad and taffy!
Chris
quincyg 04-15-2008, 08:39 PM that church hall one is lovely Taffy :PDT_Piratz_26:
pub in Waterloo
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture874.jpg
Coronation Rd, Crosby
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture908.jpg
Moor Lane, Crosby
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/date%20stones/Picture934.jpg
gregs dad 04-16-2008, 06:22 PM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3040/2419220304_b908552d82_o.jpg
Everton Library, St Domingo Rd
ChrisGeorge 04-16-2008, 07:02 PM Great photograph, gregs dad. I have always thought the Everton Library is one of Liverpool's architectural treasures. :handclap:
gregs dad 04-16-2008, 08:04 PM Thanks Chris and the pub on the next corner isn`t bad eitherhttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2260/2419397780_c07c8fee98_o.jpg
Great pics Taffy, Quincy and GD - well done.
taffy 04-17-2008, 09:17 AM Thanks Chris and the pub on the next corner isn`t bad eitherhttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2260/2419397780_c07c8fee98_o.jpg
I hope these two buildings continue to survive. Interestingly, there's a tower block of flats in Sefton Park with the same name as the pub, Mere Bank. The pub is named after the early 19th C Everton estate of Charles Horsfall which itself took its name after the small pond ( mere) that was once at the bottom of Mere Lane, Everton. The Sefton Park tower block took its name from a demolished Sefton Park mansion built by the grandson of Charles Horsfall. This was one Douglas Horsfall who built a number of churches in Liverpool including St Agnes, Ullet Rd.
robbo176 04-18-2008, 08:29 PM Hardman Street
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/robbo176/S7000026-2.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/robbo176/S7000025-2.jpg
lindylou 04-18-2008, 08:45 PM Lovely building. You captured it nicely Mandy :PDT11
phredd 04-18-2008, 09:01 PM Queens Silver Jubilee medal :-
Presented to me on the 7 July 1977 while serving in BAOR Germany.
Phredd
gregs dad 04-25-2008, 07:39 PM http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2192/2440630495_38dbd8c277_o.jpg
seen in Norfolk Street today
quincyg 04-30-2008, 12:37 AM on the old Kingston Hotel James St
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/urban%20misc/Picture1128.jpg
marky 05-01-2008, 11:40 PM Corn Exchange date-stone (and plaque). Fenwick Street. I've just noticed the date, and this site (though not the current building) will be 200 years old this year (August 4th, I've read somewhere).
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee262/south_liverpool/Corn_Exchange_plaque.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee262/south_liverpool/Corn_Exchange_stone.jpg
ChrisGeorge 05-02-2008, 01:21 AM Thanks Chris and the pub on the next corner isn`t bad eitherhttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2260/2419397780_c07c8fee98_o.jpg
I hope these two buildings continue to survive. Interestingly, there's a tower block of flats in Sefton Park with the same name as the pub, Mere Bank. The pub is named after the early 19th C Everton estate of Charles Horsfall which itself took its name after the small pond ( mere) that was once at the bottom of Mere Lane, Everton. The Sefton Park tower block took its name from a demolished Sefton Park mansion built by the grandson of Charles Horsfall. This was one Douglas Horsfall who built a number of churches in Liverpool including St Agnes, Ullet Rd.
Another wonderful photograph, gregs dad. I equally pray that these wonderful buildings can be preserved for future generations. Many thanks for the information, taffy.
Chris
gregs dad 05-03-2008, 09:56 AM http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2339/2459169415_bc894370a6_o.jpg
I don`t know if this is supposed to be the actual centre of Prescot
ChrisGeorge 05-03-2008, 04:27 PM http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2339/2459169415_bc894370a6_o.jpg
I don`t know if this is supposed to be the actual centre of Prescot
Another lovely pic. Well done, gregs dad. Is blue Prescot's official colour? :handclap:
Chris
taffy 05-03-2008, 09:48 PM Work this date out !!
shoney 05-03-2008, 10:02 PM 1910
quincyg 05-07-2008, 02:48 PM old labour exchange Green Lane
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/Picture1363.jpg
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