Images of Liverpool Past

[Kev]

Images of Liverpool from the past:

Aigburth Vale 1924

http://static.flickr.com/118/250498745_a0122f85f5.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250498745/)

Fishermans cottage

http://static.flickr.com/96/250498522_fc44fad5ee.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250498522/)

Dingle, Knot Hole

http://static.flickr.com/71/250498226_5e0a375a98.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250498226/)

Clubmoor Lark Lane

http://static.flickr.com/115/250498145_5cc4a52177.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250498145/)

Childwall Priory Farm

http://static.flickr.com/92/250497950_9943a1932d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250497950/)

Childwall Hall (1947)

http://static.flickr.com/92/250497817_c4d6255732.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250497817/)

The Calderstones Oak - Liverpool's oldest tree

http://static.flickr.com/83/250497691_76bd10685f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250497691/)

Calderstones

http://static.flickr.com/93/250497520_f73bcc4003.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250497520/)

Wapping Tunnel

http://static.flickr.com/104/250497283_8881867b76.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250497283/)

Mounting Steps Wavertree

http://static.flickr.com/104/250497175_3455525272.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250497175/)

Smallest House in England 1933

http://static.flickr.com/107/250497018_9c1901fac9.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250497018/)

The Monks Well, Wavertree 570 years old

http://static.flickr.com/113/250496893_69de958d6b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250496893/)

Speke near clough rd (1958)

http://static.flickr.com/116/250496579_c199680bf5.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250496579/)

Everton Village 1800

http://static.flickr.com/80/250496376_6baa204c03.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250496376/)

Everton Beacon

http://static.flickr.com/81/250496244_d04b619dd6.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250496244/)
Source: Lost Villages of Liverpool books

[shytalk]

Great pics, even I don't remember when Liverpool looked like that and I'm probably the oldest old fart here, even older than Bobbymac.:celb (23):

[Waterways]

Images of Liverpool from the past:

Aigburth Vale 1924

http://static.flickr.com/118/250498745_a0122f85f5.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250498745/)


Sefton Park gates in teh distance. Jerico Farm out of piucture to the left. I recall the cows there.



Fishermans cottage

http://static.flickr.com/96/250498522_fc44fad5ee.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250498522/)


At Otterspool and demolished in the 1930s. There was a dock at Otterspool.



Dingle, Knot Hole

http://static.flickr.com/71/250498226_5e0a375a98.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250498226/)

Clubmoor Lark Lane

http://static.flickr.com/115/250498145_5cc4a52177.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250498145/)


I remember going into the shop at the end - pretty sure I'm right.



Childwall Priory Farm

http://static.flickr.com/92/250497950_9943a1932d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250497950/)

Childwall Hall (1947)

http://static.flickr.com/92/250497817_c4d6255732.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250497817/)

The Calderstones Oak - Liverpool's oldest tree

http://static.flickr.com/83/250497691_76bd10685f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250497691/)

Calderstones

http://static.flickr.com/93/250497520_f73bcc4003.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250497520/)

Wapping Tunnel

http://static.flickr.com/104/250497283_8881867b76.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250497283/)


Here is it too.
http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=405&highlight=Wapping



Mounting Steps Wavertree

http://static.flickr.com/104/250497175_3455525272.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250497175/)

Smallest House in England 1933

http://static.flickr.com/107/250497018_9c1901fac9.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250497018/)


Was this in Wavetree?



The Monks Well, Wavertree 570 years old

http://static.flickr.com/113/250496893_69de958d6b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250496893/)

Speke near clough rd (1958)

http://static.flickr.com/116/250496579_c199680bf5.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250496579/)

Everton Village 1800

http://static.flickr.com/80/250496376_6baa204c03.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250496376/)

Everton Beacon

http://static.flickr.com/81/250496244_d04b619dd6.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250496244/)
Source: Lost Villages of Liverpool books

[Kev]

Was this in Wavetree?

Yes, its still there, the front of the house has been sympathetically spruced up. However, it is now part of a pub.

I can't belive Max hasn't photographed it yet!

[Max]

Think I've seen that, is it near the Coffee House Kev?

At one time I photograped all of Wavertree, but some wern't so good so going to do some updates.

Plus some building work is getting done around high street.

[Kev]

Think I've seen that, is it near the Coffee House Kev?

At one time I photograped all of Wavertree, but some wern't so good so going to do some updates.

Plus some building work is getting done around high street.

Its on the same side as The Town Hall between two pubs.

[Max]

http://www.yoliverpool.com/photoplog/images/18/medium/1_DSC01524.JPG

Next to the Cock and Bottle?

Found this in my collection of unuploaded photos.

[shytalk]

It's just to the right of that last pic.
The mounting steps are opposite the church next to the Bluecoat.
I was confused by the Aigburth Vale pic. it is actually Aigburth Road, Aigburth Vale would be to the right of the pic. All is clear now Ta.

[bobbymac]

Great pics, have them copied, such memories, and yes Shy, you do have more memories than me, Lol.
One thing tho. Lark Lane should read 'Larkhill Lane.
There's always some a**hole picking holes.:Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:

[Kev]

http://static.flickr.com/107/250497018_9c1901fac9.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250497018/)



http://static.flickr.com/83/251135872_4923fde591.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/251135872/)


http://static.flickr.com/96/251135938_f5de66301a.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/251135938/)

Six feet wide, 14 feet deep with 2 rooms now incorporated into the Cock and Bottle Pub, Wavertree.

[scouserdave]

Interesting photos. Sorry if this link has already been mentioned. It's the Council's online photo archive (http://archive.liverpool.gov.uk/dserve.exe?dsqApp=Archive&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqCmd=Search.tcl). Type "jpg" in the Any text search box and it will bring up all the photos.

[Kev]

Interesting photos. Sorry if this link has already been mentioned. It's the Council's online photo archive (http://archive.liverpool.gov.uk/dserve.exe?dsqApp=Archive&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqCmd=Search.tcl). Type "jpg" in the Any text search box and it will bring up all the photos.

Cheers :PDT_Aliboronz_24::PDT_Piratz_26:

[Kev]

http://static.flickr.com/111/251242871_600d66561b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/251242871/)

http://static.flickr.com/116/251242772_8c823b5f5f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/251242772/)
Mounting Steps - Wavertree (1700s?)

[shytalk]

That Liverpool site is fantastic, the only problem I found was that the link to enlarge them doesn't work.

[scouserdave]

Liverpool in the 1980s. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nancyo23/sets/72057594095382976/comments/)
I'm a fan of Nancy's photos. She studied for a year in Liverpool in the early 80s, before returning to the US. She certainly got around! In my opinion they are the best set of 1980s Liverpool photos to be found anywhere on the internet. They are THAT good!:shock:

[Kev]

Excellent photos those :PDT_Piratz_26:

[john]

I have commented on a couple of her photos, one of a very young Farm and the photo of the People's Festival

[Kev]

Here's a question about the Dingle Knot Hole: It looks very much like the outcrop of rock that is currently opposite the old Garden Festival site. There is a roundabout there and the Riverside Drive runs past too. Just to the left would be the Britania Pub. Its almost like its taken from the Garden Festival itself by the old dome.

http://static.flickr.com/71/250498226_5e0a375a98.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250498226/)

[Motorhemp]

Interesting photos. Sorry if this link has already been mentioned. It's the Council's online photo archive (http://archive.liverpool.gov.uk/dserve.exe?dsqApp=Archive&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqCmd=Search.tcl). Type "jpg" in the Any text search box and it will bring up all the photos.

Many of these photos often attached to thin card were reference prints not actual prints and were used by the City Engineers Photographic unit (later Reprographic Section) to show to customers.

Many of them were quick contact prints from the glass plates and some were so old that we mounted them on card and then filed them. The scruffy handwriting seen on some of them is mine.

When the section was closed the 200,000 strong photo archive with photos from 1890s to nearly the 1990s and with negatives ranging from glass plates to more modern negatives and of all sizes was passed on to the Library.

Often these are reproduced and sold on. The original glass plates although deteriorating produced prints of a far higher quality.

[scouserdave]

Thanks for the info Motorhemp

[scouserdave]

Huskisson St, 1960s?
Taken last week. The tax disc and parking permit is a giveaway:unibrow:

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/huskissonst.jpg

[lindylou]

Here's a question about the Dingle Knot Hole: It looks very much like the outcrop of rock that is currently opposite the old Garden Festival site. There is a roundabout there and the Riverside Drive runs past too. Just to the left would be the Britania Pub. Its almost like its taken from the Garden Festival itself by the old dome.

http://static.flickr.com/71/250498226_5e0a375a98.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250498226/)

Yes, it's the same place I think.

[scouserdave]

A cracking set of pics Kev.

[Max]

http://static.flickr.com/83/251135872_4923fde591.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/251135872/)


http://static.flickr.com/96/251135938_f5de66301a.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/251135938/)

Six feet wide, 14 feet deep with 2 rooms now incorporated into the Cock and Bottle Pub, Wavertree.


Even though it's now part of the pub, are they still separate rooms.

6 feet wide!

Perfect for most of ya and you have a pub next door.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

[lindylou]

fascinating pics. Thanks for posting Kev.

[Scousemouse]

My Great Grand-daddy's ale house, The Glass House, Vauxhall Road. 2006/1904.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/scousemousepic/TheGlassHouse.jpg

[Kev]

The day the Galaxy came to the old Liverpool Airport:

http://static.flickr.com/119/263013728_fa7bb52592.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/263013728/)

I can remember walking through this beast when I was little.

[Scouseinmanc]

Hi guys!
New to this forum, so thought I'd start by posting a link on here to an excellent set of photos, taken by a young lady who lives in Seattle. I believe she lived in Lpool only for a year during the 80's, but captured our city wonderfully & just how I remember it, growing up as a child. Have a gander..!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nancyo23/sets/72057594095382976/

[PhilipG]

Hi guys!
New to this forum, so thought I'd start by posting a link on here to an excellent set of photos, taken by a young lady who lives in Seattle. I believe she lived in Lpool only for a year during the 80's, but captured our city wonderfully & just how I remember it, growing up as a child. Have a gander..!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nancyo23/sets/72057594095382976/

Welcome.
Love your avatar.
Yes, they're great photos.
She's still very interested in Liverpool.
Kev, how about inviting her to join us?

[lindylou]

Welcome to the forum.
I agree with Philip - your avator is a good one. :)

[Scouseinmanc]

Cheers guys - took the pic myself.
Great site is this, I look forward to many more posts..!

[scouserdave]

Hi guys!
New to this forum, so thought I'd start by posting a link on here to an excellent set of photos, taken by a young lady who lives in Seattle. I believe she lived in Lpool only for a year during the 80's, but captured our city wonderfully & just how I remember it, growing up as a child. Have a gander..!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nancyo23/sets/72057594095382976/
Na:PDT_Piratz_26: ncy's boss la! Been a long admirer of her photies

[Kev]

Welcome.
Love your avatar.
Yes, they're great photos.
She's still very interested in Liverpool.
Kev, how about inviting her to join us?

I already have done when commenting on her pics, maybe a pm will do it.

[john]

I commented on number of her photos and PM ed her she never got back, it was the picture of the peoples festival held in Lime Street, and the other was of a very young FARM.

[nancy o.]

Wow, people are talking about me? I'm flattered! To be honest, I did join the forum awhile back, but got distracted, forgot my login, but here I am.

I'm not quite sure how to upload photos to a thread (I want to embed them in the message, but do I need to link to a url to do that?), but i'll give it a try. Here's a picture from the spring of '87, I was working in London at the time but went up to Liverpool for a weekend to show a friend around who had never been. And instead of hitting the tourist hotspots (cathedrals, Albert Dock), I decide we should walk up to Stanley Dock along the sea wall. Nice introduction to the city, I figured.

[john]

Welcome, there are a number of people who have mentioned your photos on this forum and I think will be pleased to hear from you.
I was around Liverpool at the time, and was at a number of the gigs, Peoples Festival, early farm gigs and have commented on a number of your picture, see an earlier posting on this thread.
Do you have any pictures of The High Five, who played the People Festival and a number of gigs with the farm, bunnymen, teardrops, in fact their drummer was the original drummer from WAH Rob Jones?

Regards John

[PhilipG]

Welcome, Nancy.

I love your pictures on Flickr.
I was busy taking photos of the old cinema buildings in the 1980s, but I did take other photos.
I still need a new scanner, because I have quite a lot I could post.

[FKoE]

I'm not quite sure how to upload photos to a thread (I want to embed them in the message, but do I need to link to a url to do that?),


Exactly Nancy'o, yes you do, Howie has a page of tips somewhere telling you how yo imbed an image .. :) ... Great to have someone aboard that has documented the decline :D

[Kev]

Wow, people are talking about me? I'm flattered! To be honest, I did join the forum awhile back, but got distracted, forgot my login, but here I am.

I'm not quite sure how to upload photos to a thread (I want to embed them in the message, but do I need to link to a url to do that?), but i'll give it a try. Here's a picture from the spring of '87, I was working in London at the time but went up to Liverpool for a weekend to show a friend around who had never been. And instead of hitting the tourist hotspots (cathedrals, Albert Dock), I decide we should walk up to Stanley Dock along the sea wall. Nice introduction to the city, I figured.

Nancy O, so glad to have you here at last, a warm welcome from me to you, hope you stay around for a while :celb (23):Here's how to share your Flickr pics:

Click on your picture you want to share. Then follow the instructions on the screen grabs.

http://static.flickr.com/86/224646146_471b2cec41.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/224646146/)
:)
http://static.flickr.com/76/224646080_1286b6ccd7.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/224646080/)
:)
http://static.flickr.com/89/224646314_b85acd6452.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/224646314/)

Its important that you go back to the original page as shown in picture 1. Flickr's terms and conditions state that you must link back to its photo page.

http://static.flickr.com/96/224646236_8524c3e886.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/224646236/)

Read instruction 5 then 6 in order, they are both on the following picture...

http://static.flickr.com/85/224646398_06144d91b7.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/224646398/)

Click on ok and preview the post to be sure the image appears and it links back to its Flickr page :):PDT_Aliboronz_24:

[nancy o.]

Thanks Kev, I figured it was something like that! So I'll give it another go, here's a photo I recently tried printing by myself in a darkroom class and is a little better than the faded, washed-out image in my Liverpool set (some of you may have seen this in my photostream already). If I ever get enough darkroom time I'd like to do a proper set of prints.

And John, sorry no photos of the High Five, though I do remember seeing them a couple of times.

http://static.flickr.com/105/295607299_ec6a804e18_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nancyo23/295607299/)

[john]

Thanks Nancy.

By the way I put some comments to your people festival picture, which I believe was the Lime Street event startin Wah, Aswad and the High Five was I correct?

[Kev]

@Nancy, I edited the pic so it links back to your original. Try clicking on it, you should see what I mean.

Thanks for sharing your wonderful snaps:

Kev

[The Teardrop Explodes]

I live for photos like this.

[lindylou]

Nancy, Thanks for sharing. :)

[ChrisGeorge]

Here's a question about the Dingle Knot Hole: It looks very much like the outcrop of rock that is currently opposite the old Garden Festival site. There is a roundabout there and the Riverside Drive runs past too. Just to the left would be the Britania Pub. Its almost like its taken from the Garden Festival itself by the old dome.

http://static.flickr.com/71/250498226_5e0a375a98.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/250498226/)

I think this is a fantastic question and I think it is entirely possible that it is the same rocky outcrop given the in-fill that was dumped later in the 20th century would have extended the land further than the original headland. Could someone get a picture of the rock feature and we could compare the shots directly? Thanks in advance!

Chris

[PhilipG]

Just discovered this thread.
I love old views of Liverpool.
Is there a thread for old postcards, as I've quite a collection of Liverpool?

I think that's Dingle Point.
If so, it's still there.
The Festival Hall is on the site of Knotts Hole.

[PhilipG]

Huskisson St, 1960s?
Taken last week. The tax disc and parking permit is a giveaway:unibrow:

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/huskissonst.jpg

Beautiful.
I loved the design of Lancias.
It's actually glowing.

[lindylou]

That picture is class. :celb (6):

[ChrisGeorge]

Just discovered this thread.
I love old views of Liverpool.
Is there a thread for old postcards, as I've quite a collection of Liverpool?

I think that's Dingle Point.
If so, it's still there.
The Festival Hall is on the site of Knotts Hole.


Thanks for your answer, Philip, confirming what Kev and I thought. Another interesting way to compare it would be to compare a couple of old topographic maps maybe with an overlay. A project for someone handy with maps and computers. Do I hear any volunteers? :Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:

Incidentally, I am also a collector of old postcards and have a number of the Liverpool area. I love the ones from 1900-1910 with the old stamps and handwritten greetings on them. I suppose to most collectors they probably value the unsent ones which are probably more valuable but I get a better sense of the era from the ones that were actually used. So in other words I would be interested to see such a thread started as well.

Chris

[MissInformed]

Incidentally, I am also a collector of old postcards and have a number of the Liverpool area. I love the ones from 1900-1910 with the old stamps and handwritten greetings on them. I suppose to most collectors they probably value the unsent ones which are probably more valuable but I get a better sense of the era from the ones that were actually used. So in other words I would be interested to see such a thread started as well.

Chris[/QUOTE]


me too!!!:)

[PhilipG]

Thanks for your answer, Philip, confirming what Kev and I thought. Another interesting way to compare it would be to compare a couple of old topographic maps maybe with an overlay. A project for someone handy with maps and computers. Do I hear any volunteers? :Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:

Incidentally, I am also a collector of old postcards and have a number of the Liverpool area. I love the ones from 1900-1910 with the old stamps and handwritten greetings on them. I suppose to most collectors they probably value the unsent ones which are probably more valuable but I get a better sense of the era from the ones that were actually used. So in other words I would be interested to see such a thread started as well.

Chris

Chris.

Comparing maps, etc., has been done, and there's no doubt that the Festival Hall is on the site of Knott's Hole, and that Dingle Point is on the other side of the new road, about half-way towards the Brittania Inn.
What has got to be established is whether the photo on this thread is Knott's Hole or Dingle Point.
I think it's Dingle Point, but I'm not 100% sure.
Going back to the top of the thread, it does say Knot Hole, so whoever named it wasn't familiar with the spelling (but could be right about the site?).
I've got old pics somewhere, which should clear it up.
What's left of Dingle Point today has been cut away somewhat, and it's rather overgrown, so it's not going to look like old pictures.

40 minutes later.
I haven't got one photo of Knott's Hole.
All I've got is the drawing from Griifiths which shows it from the land.
When you realise there were outcrops & cliffs all the way from the Herculaneum to Otterspool, it's a long stretch.
On reflection, though, if the original caption was Knot Hole (or whatever) we might as well leave it at that.

[Brenda]

http://static.flickr.com/112/311492776_e075e321be.jpg

This is a print of where I was brought up, (may I add it was way after 1927 when I lived there).
The very top of the steps is Everton Terrace, now Everton Park.

[PhilipG]

Let's start with the Royal Liver Building.
Built 1908-11.
Architect: Walter Aubrey Thomas.
It was the tallest office building in Europe until after WW2.

The first card is - for its age - a rare real night shot.
Most night shots at the time were day-time views faked to look dark.
This card was issued by the Royal Liver Insurance Company who made sure all the lights in the building were turned on.
The rear of this card is shown.

The second card shows a view that is impossible to get today because the Cunard Building is in the way.

[victorialush]

I love this picture and used to have it hanging in one of my old flats :D

:PDT_Piratz_26:

[Brenda]

really great pics Phil, that first one is a rarety having all the lights switched on, I dont think you'd get one like it today.

[PhilipG]

I love this picture and used to have it hanging in one of my old flats :D

:PDT_Piratz_26:

I've still got it hanging in my place! :)
It's one of my all-time favourite pictures of Liverpool.

Brenda.
Have you heard of the Popular Cinema in Netherfield Road North?
That was tall at the front, and very low at the back, because of the slope.

[Brenda]

I've been there many a time when I was a kid, I remember it having wooden benches and used to show all the cowboy films where the goodies wore the white hats and the baddies worn the black hats, that was the Saturday mattinee, there used to be about 8 kids in our little gang who went.
I'd forgotten all about that until you just mentioned it.:)

[ChrisGeorge]

Hi Philip

Excellent place to start, Philip, with the Royal Liver Buildings. :celb (23):

Good to see these postcard views. I wanted to note here also how startling it was for me to see the Liver Buildings cleaned up and white in the Seventies after growing up in the Fifties and Sixties and being used to seeing them black!!!!

Chris

[MissInformed]

great pics phil!
Bring on some more!!!:)

[theninesisters]

This is my only picture of the Royal Liver Building - taken on the top deck of the Super Seacat coming back from the Isle of Man.

[theninesisters]

And sticking to the forum! - Postcards of Childwall.

[theninesisters]

Sod it, I'll just take over this forum :celb (23):

Very rare postcard of Sandfield Tower, West Derby (Sits on the front page of my www.gwalia.moonfruit.com website!

[theninesisters]

And Mason Street - Edge Hill - Joseph Williamson's house is above/right of the bloke's head on the horse - 2 stories of it are still standing to this day! (attached picture of same location)

[PhilipG]

Great, Jona76.

They are rare ones.

Here's 2 of Princes Avenue.
Mainly to show how they ruined good photos by colouring them.

[robbo176]

Ancestry has a collection of old postcards but I think you need a subcription to see them
heres a few I've saved
I'll post a few more later
Mandy

[PhilipG]

Ancestry has a collection of old postcards but I think you need a subcription to see them
heres a few I've saved
I'll post a few more later
Mandy

I love the message on the last one.
"I've put it in a frame, and it's on the piano."

[MissInformed]

makes you wonder how these postcards end up in our hands!

[PhilipG]

Built 1774-5.
It's one of the oldest churches in Liverpool although it has been closed for many years.
It was also one of the first buildings in the world to utilise cast iron.
The building on the far right is still standing.
This was a privately produced postcard and this one was posted in 1914.
That's an underground Gents' toilet in the bottom right corner.

[MissInformed]

Fantastic pic Philip!
Many thanks!

[theninesisters]

The Mounting steps in Wavertree, I had an argument with someone ages ago (A polite one of course haha) about the fact that I thought that it was steps to a style. They appear to be too warn down both sides for a few people to clamber on their horses each sunday morning?

[ChrisGeorge]

The Mounting steps in Wavertree, I had an argument with someone ages ago (A polite one of course haha) about the fact that I thought that it was steps to a style. They appear to be too warn down both sides for a few people to clamber on their horses each sunday morning?

Interesting theory, Jona76. You might be right. However, the "Mounting steps" were presumably named that when there were still horses, so one would think that it was used to mount horses then. Just a thought.

Chris

[Sloyne]

http://static.flickr.com/112/311492776_e075e321be.jpg

This is a print of where I was brought up, (may I add it was way after 1927 when I lived there).
The very top of the steps is Everton Terrace, now Everton Park.I believe the tenements (pictured) was known as the 'Victoria Settlements'. I sailed with a guy, Arthur Bell by name, who was born and raised in one of them. Lit by gas, they had a communal toilet and wash-house at the end of each landing and only one fireplace in the "living" room. I also dated a girl, Gwen Taig, who lived in them, until her family found out that I was from Scotland Road and was Catholic. Gwen was a "King Billy" for her parents lodge (Ivy Lodge I think) one twelfth of July.

[Brenda]

I believe the tenements (pictured) was known as the 'Victoria Settlements'. I sailed with a guy, Arthur Bell by name, who was born and raised in one of them. Lit by gas, they had a communal toilet and wash-house at the end of each landing and only one fireplace in the "living" room. I also dated a girl, Gwen Taig, who lived in them, until her family found out that I was from Scotland Road and was Catholic. Gwen was a "King Billy" for her parents lodge (Ivy Lodge I think) one twelfth of July.

Hahaha, I remember all the rivally, I should have been King Billy one year but the wellies didnt fit. :)

[theninesisters]

St Michael's Huyton - 6 bells - The heaviest being 400 years old!

[ChrisGeorge]

Hi all

Just purchased by me on ebay, a postcard of the Sailors' Orphanage, Newsham Park, Liverpool, from the first decade of the twentieth century, postmark dated 1904. Any information gratefully received. Is this the same complex of buildings that became Newsham Hospital or was it a separate entity? As some of you may have seen, I posted recently that my father worked as a physiotherapist at Newsham Hospital in the early 1950's. Thanks in advance for any information on the orphanage vis a vis the hospital. Another reason that I am interested is that my maternal grandmother and one of her sisters were placed by my great grandmother in a sailors' orphanage after her husband (my great grandfather) was killed falling down the stairs aboard ship off South Africa, and it could well have been this same institution. Any information therefore on whether there was only one seamans' orphanage in Liverpool or several would be useful. Thanks.

All my best

Chris

[Waterways]

Built 1774-5.
It's one of the oldest churches in Liverpool although it has been closed for many years.
It was also one of the first buildings in the world to utilise cast iron.
The building on the far right is still standing.
This was a privately produced postcard and this one was posted in 1914.
That's an underground Gents' toilet in the bottom right corner.

I remember those toilets. The picture was taken from Mill St. The Flat iron pub is just off picture to the right. This 1965 picture shows the toilets. The building shown was a hostel for black African crew members of the Elder Dempster Line.

http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverpool/pubs/images/flat%20iron%20mill%20street.jpg

[snappel]

Is this the same complex of buildings that became Newsham Hospital or was it a separate entity? As some of you may have seen, I posted recently that my father worked as a physiotherapist at Newsham Hospital in the early 1950's.I think Newsham Hospital (aka Newsham General) was another hospital, demolished in the 1980s. I may be wrong. The sailors orphanage in your postcard became Park Hospital, and still has a small reasonably modern NHS unit operating on the site. The main hospital itself is not used, but unfortunately for me is secured tight and has a resident caretaker, so I can't provide any internal photos!!

[ChrisGeorge]

I think Newsham Hospital (aka Newsham General) was another hospital, demolished in the 1980s. I may be wrong. The sailors orphanage in your postcard became Park Hospital, and still has a small reasonably modern NHS unit operating on the site. The main hospital itself is not used, but unfortunately for me is secured tight and has a resident caretaker, so I can't provide any internal photos!!

Thanks, snappel. As I recall, my father did work at Newsham General, so I appreciate you clarifying the difference between the facilities and that Newsham Hospital (aka Newsham General) was demolished in the 1980s.

Chris

[PhilipG]

The Seaman's Orphanage opened in 1874 and was designed by Alfred Waterhouse.
It became the Park Hospital.
There had been a chapel, but that has been demolished.

Newsham General Hospital was in Belmont Road, and had been the Belmont Road Institution.

[Waterways]

I think Newsham Hospital (aka Newsham General) was another hospital, demolished in the 1980s. I may be wrong. The sailors orphanage in your postcard became Park Hospital, and still has a small reasonably modern NHS unit operating on the site. The main hospital itself is not used, but unfortunately for me is secured tight and has a resident caretaker, so I can't provide any internal photos!!

Newsham Hosp was in Belmont Rd on the other side St Margarets Church. I saw the old one burn down in 1961/62. Spectacular. Full of high fire escapes all around squirting water down on the large burning church.

[snappel]

Yes, the original chapel was demolished, although there is a smaller one there now that was built later.

[Sloyne]

For a number of years and until quite recently, I have sent postcards, to a young handicapped person in Liverpool, from the various locals I have visited on my travels. That person has since moved on to other hobbies and, suprisingly, sold the postcards for a handy sum of money. So it would seem that the hobby of postcard collecting can be financialy rewarding aswell as a very enjoyable past time.

[PhilipG]

95 High Street, Wavertree.
It was built about 1860, and was 6 feet wide and 14 feet from back to front.
It was occupied until 1925 and then stood empty until 1952 when it was incorporated into the "Cock & Bottle".

This card was posted in 1909.

[ChrisGeorge]

95 High Street, Wavertree.
It was built about 1860, and was 6 feet wide and 14 feet from back to front.
It was occupied until 1925 and then stood empty until 1952 when it was incorporated into the "Cock & Bottle".

This card was posted in 1909.

Thanks, Philip. I will have to have a look out for this card on ebay.

Chris

[lindylou]

Newsham General had a main entrance on Belmont rd. There was a side entrance on Richmond park and the ambulance depot was on Lower Breck rd and is still the depot for paramedics.
The hospital was demolished 1980s (I might have some photos - I'll have a root for them). There are two old age homes on the site now. and also a doctors and a pharmacy. There are a few new houses on the site where the convant was next to the hospital (Little Sisters of the poor).

[PhilipG]

This card was posted in 1914, and the view is from the Liver Building.
If anybody has access to the Liver Building, a shot taken today would be fantastic.

Note New Brighton Tower.
For about 20 years it was the tallest structure in the UK.
http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~dstewart/tower.htm

[theninesisters]

95 High Street, Wavertree.

...

[lindylou]

That's fascinating Philip. I don't think I'd have recognised that view if you hadn't said it was from the Liver. What's that building down on the right hand corner ?? It looks similar to the Pier Masters house on the Albert Dock.
I suppose it would have been something like that.

[scouserdave]

Newsham Hosp was in Belmont Rd on the other side St Margarets Church. I saw the old one burn down in 1961/62. Spectacular. Full of high fire escapes all around squirting water down on the large burning church.
John, I've mentioned this before on another forum, but I was there too. I was with my Mum and our Colin who was still being pushed in a buggy. We were going home to Hughes St after visiting Newsham Park. My Mum stopped to chat to a friend, on the other side West Derby Road from The Belmont pub. As they were chatting, I saw smoke coming from the roof of St Margaret's. A short time later, I saw the flames. It was one hell of a blaze!

[Waterways]

This card was posted in 1914, and the view is from the Liver Building.
If anybody has access to the Liver Building, a shot taken today would be fantastic.


The two demolished warehouses at East Waterloo Dock are seen. All they have to do was build apartments identical to them. Steel frame and then clad in identical brick. Cheap to make maximising the site potential as lots of apartments are created. Too easy isn't it?

The old accumulator tower at the Half-Tide Dock can be seen. The passage to Georges Dock is converted to a small graving dock.

[scouserdave]

If anybody has access to the Liver Building, a shot taken today would be fantastic.
http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~dstewart/tower.htm
Cracking postcard Phil.
As requested:PDT_Piratz_26:
http://www.liverpoolpictorial.com/livermay.jpg

[theninesisters]

Cracking picture!

Wasn't this the site of the Large Objects Museum at one point? I remember going as a kid in the 80's and LOVED it.

Anyone else remember it too? any pics???

[lindylou]

Yes, I remember the large objects museum being there. Only now that you reminded me tho' :)

[lindylou]

Hi all

Just purchased by me on ebay, a postcard of the Sailors' Orphanage, Newsham Park, Liverpool, from the first decade of the twentieth century, postmark dated 1904. Any information gratefully received. Is this the same complex of buildings that became Newsham Hospital or was it a separate entity? As some of you may have seen, I posted recently that my father worked as a physiotherapist at Newsham Hospital in the early 1950's. Thanks in advance for any information on the orphanage vis a vis the hospital. Another reason that I am interested is that my maternal grandmother and one of her sisters were placed by my great grandmother in a sailors' orphanage after her husband (my great grandfather) was killed falling down the stairs aboard ship off South Africa, and it could well have been this same institution. Any information therefore on whether there was only one seamans' orphanage in Liverpool or several would be useful. Thanks.

All my best

Chris

It was always a bit confusing ... Newsham General being on Belmont rd but having the same name as the actual park !

The place alongside of the park was called 'Park Hospital' I think .. if I'm not mistaken. In latter years it has been some kind of clinic.

[5th beatle]

With regards to Princess Dock / Pier Head area: Here's a couple of 80's photos from my collection

[scouserdave]

With regards to Princess Dock / Pier Head area: Here's a couple of 80's photos from my collection
More please!
Thanks:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

[PhilipG]

Wonderful photo, dave.
Thank you.

Great to see the other photos.

Lindylou.
I've checked old maps and the Customs Depot, Receiving House and the Marine Surveyor's Office were all in that area.

[PhilipG]

...

Great pictures

"Real photographic" are always better than the printed colour ones.

[scouserdave]

Lindylou.
I've checked old maps and the Customs Depot, Receiving House and the Marine Surveyor's Office were all in that area.
Just noticed the dry dock in the same area.

[Waterways]

Princes Dock in the 80s taken By Nancy O

[ChrisGeorge]

Great to be able to compare the two pics of the northern docks. Thanks, Guys!!

[5th beatle]

here's the last of them. I'm sure there's more though on flickr & fotopic. Also try mersey-gateway.org

Whilst I'm here. I'm looking for any old photos of Queens Square, preferably just after the Roe Street expansion when they put in the 'bubble' bus stops. I have some from 1976 but would appreciate it if any of the readers had more

cheers

[Kev]

Some excellent images posted here, :PDT_Piratz_26:

[MissInformed]

brilliant photos!

[PhilipG]

here's the last of them. I'm sure there's more though on flickr & fotopic. Also try mersey-gateway.org

Whilst I'm here. I'm looking for any old photos of Queens Square, preferably just after the Roe Street expansion when they put in the 'bubble' bus stops. I have some from 1976 but would appreciate it if any of the readers had more

cheers

Here's 2 snaps from 1982 and 1983.
It was said to be "The Longest Bus Shelter in the World". :eek:

[ayjaykay]

Here's a few more of the 'gyratory'

[5th beatle]

superb photos. more would be most welcome

[Waterways]

Here's a few more of the 'gyratory'

Those bus piccies clearly indicate of how to screw up a city centre.

[5th beatle]

one of the gyratory photos shows the remnants of the buildings around queens square. correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't the open eye gallery located down towards the start of the bus stops? (on the 4th photo i think)

[ayjaykay]

one of the gyratory photos shows the remnants of the buildings around queens square. correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't the open eye gallery located down towards the start of the bus stops? (on the 4th photo i think)

Yes, you're right. The Open Eye was there before it moved to Wood Street. I've got another photo that clearly shows the old Open Eye. I'll try to find it.

EDIT: found it...

[ayjaykay]

And here are a few more. The black and white one is from September 1985. The 4th one shows the Open Eye again, after the building next door had been demolished.

[ChrisGeorge]

Hi all

I love the pic of all the green doubledeckers all lined up. Brings back a lot of memories.

http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=459&d=1165570299

Let me clarify, though, do you still have green buses in Liverpool, or are they now all different colors, as I thought I saw on one of my recent trips?

Chris

[ayjaykay]

Hi all

I love the pic of all the green doubledeckers all lined up. Brings back a lot of memories.

http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=459&d=1165570299

Let me clarify, though, do you still have green buses in Liverpool, or are they now all different colors, as I thought I saw on one of my recent trips?

Chris

There are now 2 main companies running buses in Liverpool: Arriva and Stagecoach. The Arriva buses are a turquoise and cream colour, but not the same as the MPTE/Merseybus colours.

[5th beatle]

Those bus piccies clearly indicate of how to screw up a city centre.

True.
Unfortunately, just one of many eg: Clayton Square, Mount Pleasent, Canning Place.
There was no need for the whole of Queens Square to be consigned to wasteland. It was just a road widening scheme which I accept but they could have kept and spruced up many of the buildings instead of knocking them down and having the area lying idle for nearly 20 years. Imagine it today full of bars and restaurants (which it is now but hardly quaint)

[PhilipG]

A good aerial view of post-war Liverpool.
I've dated this as about 1949.

[ChrisGeorge]

Hi Philip

A great post-World War II aerial view, Philip. Your dating to circa 1949 appears about right to me. Possibly Waterways or someone could confirm that the date of around 1949 seems right. You can certainly see the bombed-out areas, including the Customs House and the area around the Victoria Monument and the look of the landing stage also appears as it would have, I think, in the decade after the war.

Chris

[PhilipG]

A good aerial view of post-war Liverpool.
I've dated this as about 1949.

The Customs House was demolished in 1948, but the photo still shows the cellars.

[ChrisGeorge]

The Customs House was demolished in 1948, but the photo still shows the cellars.

Yes, understood, that's how I remember the Customs House from my childhood; I was born in 1948.

Chris

[theninesisters]

It is just me or whenever I get a bus now and I see a double decker, I'm like a kid going straight to the top deck to get the best view over all the high rise walls that you don't normally see over in a car!:rolleyes: :)

[ChrisGeorge]

It is just me or whenever I get a bus now and I see a double decker, I'm like a kid going straight to the top deck to get the best view over all the high rise walls that you don't normally see over in a car!:rolleyes: :)

Hi Jona76

As a little lad, I used to love to be on the top deck in the front seat. I would get endless enjoyment looking at everything from that vantage point. That is, until in later years I'd ride up there with my Grandad and he'd talk about all the people around us -- I trait that my 86-year-old mother is also developing! I used to feel like crawling under the seat listening to my Grandad's observations and hoping the people in question wouldn't hear!

Chris

[Waterways]

Hi Philip

A great post-World War II aerial view, Philip. Your dating to circa 1949 appears about right to me. Possibly Waterways or someone could confirm that the date of around 1949 seems right. You can certainly see the bombed-out areas, including the Customs House and the area around the Victoria Monument and the look of the landing stage also appears as it would have, I think, in the decade after the war.

Chris

The Customs House was demolished around 1949. There was debate on what to do with it and London said demolish and they moved the Customs operations to London - another rape of Liverpool.

The picture is 49 to early 1950s. That scene was pretty well like that until the 1960s. Lord St is has not even been started. Fir many years after WW2 Liverrpool did little to re-construct the city. The Germans started immediately. I recall what one old guy who I worked with say. He said "as soon as the war ended bricklayers appeared from nowhere and started to build and repair things". When he got back to Liverpool sweet nothing had been done.

[ChrisGeorge]

The Customs House was demolished around 1949. There was debate on what to do with it and London said demolish and they moved the Customs operations to London - another rape of Liverpool.

The picture is 49 to early 1950s. That scene was pretty well like that until the 1960s. Lord St is has not even been started. Fir many years after WW2 Liverrpool did little to re-construct the city. The Germans started immediately. I recall what one old guy who I worked with say. He said "as soon as the war ended bricklayers appeared from nowhere and started to build and repair things". When he got back to Liverpool sweet nothing had been done.


Hi Waterways

Quite an inditement but then I suppose the excuse would be that in the post-war austerity, there wasn't the money to spare. (You will probably say that there was money to rebuild London then why not Liverpool too.) I am endlessly impressed the way whole towns and cities on the continent were rebuilt as they were before the wartime devastation. Amazing.

Chris

[snappel]

You will probably say that there was money to rebuild London then why not Liverpool too.Well, London is the capital after all. Besides, other places got it far worse, like Coventry...

[Kev]

Folks, I've merged this thread and edited its title. As you were.... :)

[ChrisGeorge]

Fine. Thank you, Kev. :celb (23):

Chris

[Kev]

Fine. Thank you, Kev. :celb (23):

Chris

No probs - some pics of the old customs house can be found here (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2723).

[ChrisGeorge]

Hi Philip G et al.

Another postcard I have just bought on ebay, described as Childwall Church, Dale Series No. 22, with divided rear, postmarked, Mossley Hill, 1905, still with the halfpenny stamp. Earlier postcards, circa 1890-1900, had an undivided rear, and I have a couple of those early cards as well, although none of Liverpool.

Chris

[Kev]

1890: Cleaning the floors at The Seaman's Orphanage

[ChrisGeorge]

1890: Cleaning the floors at The Seaman's Orphanage

Great picture, Kev! Thanks!

Chris

[Kev]

There's a joke in there somewhere

[Ged]

Arden House, Salvation army hostel. Does anyone know what it was built as and when, was that it's original use?

Blacklers. No introduction required there.

Christian Street childrens lending library. There's some old internal pics of this in the records office when it was packed to the brim with flatcapped gentlemen but was a kids library when I lived facing it. A well known local Liverpool pop group played their debut concert there when it later became the community centre, in fact I think it was their last gig too. Paul (The Gardens) may be able to assist me with that one?

The other two pics are similar but taken in different years, you'll notice how the cottonpicker pub has been spruced up a bit in the later pic. The heights at the back are Georges Height (the big white ones), the others being Mazzini (where my nan an auntie and a few uncles lived), Cavour and Garabaldi Heights. The Farmers Arms pub stood on the South side of Roscommon street and one of the old properties being demolished is No. 22 where Sir Herbert Morton Stanley of 'Dr. Livingstone I presume' once lived.

[Kev]

@Ged - Brilliant pics :PDT_Piratz_26:

[The Gardens]

Great pictures Ged, you can see The Clayton Square Shopping Mall under contruction behind Blacklers.

[Ged]

Two of these are credited to my old neighbour Joe Devine the others are mine.

The Piggeries, which consisted of the high rise blocks were Crosbie, Haigh and Canterbury Heights situated on William Henry Street. Only a very small number of houses were built to accommodate the people from these and the large nearby Four square tenement complex when they were demolished resulting in the community being ripped apart which led to the closure of many shops in the area though the Morris brothers wearily plod on, hoping for an upturn in business with some new houses that have been built on the next block to them.

Four churches at least once served this area, St. Mary of the Angels, St. Anne's, Holy Trinity and SFX - only the latter now remaining open, two of them having been demolished.

The next pic is of Elliot st leading to Parker st with the old Clayton Square on the right. The next pic is of the T&GWU building being erected, it's now empty awaiting demolition. Then comes Roscommon street school, being used here as an adult centre but now recently demolished. The last pic is of a green goddess army fire engine with a conventional one and a police car in Church st, I don't know why though?

[scouserdave]

Bloomin' Heck, these pics are amazing Ged! I was supposed to be tucked up in bed at 10:30pm, but I'm enjoying looking at your pics so much:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

[Kev]

:handclap: Brilliant :handclap:

[PhilipG]

Arden House, Salvation army hostel. Does anyone know what it was built as and when, was that it's original use?


Arden House, Bevington Bush/Arden Street.

Architects: C. O. Ellison & Son.

The foundation stone was laid on 21 June 1898 by Thomas H. Ismay, and it was opened by the Earl of Derby on 11 January 1900 as the Bevington Bush People's Home.
It was requisitioned by the Admiralty in November 1941, and was sold to the Salvation Army in November 1945 as a hostel and was then renamed Arden House.
It was demolished in 1986.

[lindylou]

great pics Ged. Thanks for posting. :handclap:

[Ged]

The Australian was on the corner of Gt Crosshall st and Fontenoy st. Now the site of what is to be a high rise.

The Rose and Crown on Highfield st, known locally as Bragiers when I drank there in 82. Highfield Gardens next door are being demolished but the pub was kept up and re-opened as 'Time out' in the late 90s.

The clock on the corner of Richmond Row and Drinkwater Gardens, full swing lemonade firm was nearby. If you saw the 'oller' now, you wouldn't believe a pub had ever been there.


The corner house that was on Scotty and the convivial which became sherlocks on the dock road.

[Ged]

More pub shots by Joe Devine.

The Dart which was on the opposite corner almost to the Australian. Was incorporated into student flats not that long ago but is now awaiting demolition.

Known locally as the flyhouse because the sugar caked workers from the nearby Tate & Lyle sugar refiners frequented it, it is situated on the canal bridge on Chisenhale st and has been a painters and decorators now for years.

Gregson's Well at the top of Brunswick Road at Low Hill. There was another pub directly opposite with the same name.

The Great Eastern being demolished on Langsdale Street, off Soho St.

[Ged]

I don't think these need any introduction.

[Ged]

A shot of Islington, similar to what Philip posted last weekend.

A Higson's horse and cart in Williamson street.

The Shakespeare theatre, Fraser street, lying derelict after the fire of 76 destroyed it.

Tate & Lyle and an aerial shot of the 3 ugly sisters.

[Ged]

Asnowy scene, looking from Christian street towards St. Anne st and the Royal Standard pub known locally as 'Kings'

The Soho Arms, boarded up here but now St. Anne's business centre.

The United Powers on the corner of Cheapside and Tithebarn st, an old haunt and another 'oller' that doesn't look big enough to have had a pub on it.

[Ged]

Caption missed out on post No. 140 middle pic is of the Green Man on Vauxhall road. Still open and appeared in Boys from the black stuff containing a scene with 'shake hands'. The pub facing it, demolished in the late 90s was the Queens. The flats in the background are Portland Gardens.

[lindylou]

great collection of pics. Thanks for sharing. :handclap:

[ayjaykay]

The next pic is of Elliot st leading to Parker st with the old Clayton Square on the right.

I'm stilll amazed how this slightly sloping road became the steep steps that are there now!

[XL391]

Any London Road shots? I'm specifically trying to find my Dads old bookies, Top Racing. Can anyone help?

[Ged]

I'm stilll amazed how this slightly sloping road became the steep steps that are there now!

Me too.

[liverbirdnk]

Two of these are credited to my old neighbour Joe Devine the others are mine.

The Piggeries, which consisted of the high rise blocks were Crosbie, Haigh and Canterbury Heights situated on William Henry Street. Only a very small number of houses were built to accommodate the people from these and the large nearby Four square tenement complex when they were demolished resulting in the community being ripped apart which led to the closure of many shops in the area though the Morris brothers wearily plod on, hoping for an upturn in business with some new houses that have been built on the next block to them.

Four churches at least once served this area, St. Mary of the Angels, St. Anne's, Holy Trinity and SFX - only the latter now remaining open, two of them having been demolished.

The next pic is of Elliot st leading to Parker st with the old Clayton Square on the right. The next pic is of the T&GWU building being erected, it's now empty awaiting demolition. Then comes Roscommon street school, being used here as an adult centre but now recently demolished. The last pic is of a green goddess army fire engine with a conventional one and a police car in Church st, I don't know why though?
i went to Roscommon st School after Penryn st School, were the boys school yard was on the roof. O happy days. it`s nice to see a photograph of it.

[liverbirdnk]

http://static.flickr.com/112/311492776_e075e321be.jpg

This is a print of where I was brought up, (may I add it was way after 1927 when I lived there).
The very top of the steps is Everton Terrace, now Everton Park.

I was brought up in Netherfield Road,My auntie Annie lived in these flats.My mother in law and a few of the in laws still live there.

[Gnomie]

Nice pic of the Legs of Man Ged, i remember it well:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

I love that pic of the flats on Netherfield road

[lindylou]

I'm stilll amazed how this slightly sloping road became the steep steps that are there now!

I've always wondered about that too. I don't recall Parker street being so steep as that - the way we have those steep steps by 'George' & Clayton shopping Mall. Can't understand where that hill came from :shock:

[Ged]

A couple that Philip may appreciate being a Dingleite. A tram coming down Beloe street and the pub that is now call derelict but was the **** Jennings. The blocks either side of it at Mill Street are King Gardens as you will know.

[PhilipG]

A couple that Philip may appreciate being a Dingleite. A tram coming down Beloe street and the pub that is now call derelict but was the **** Jennings. The blocks either side of it at Mill Street are King Gardens as you will know.

An adopted Dingleite.
Poor D i c k Jennings gets censored.

Keep the photos coming, Ged.
I've found some of my snaps of Myrtle Gardens, Gerard Gardens & Almond Gardens (anybody remember that one?).

[TerryB]

Hello all. Some fantastic pictures. My family are from around the Everton/Soho St area, but were all moved out to Huyton when I was just a baby and I never got to see a much of the area.

If anyone has any pictures of the 4 squares tenements, where most of my family were brought up, and also the Radcliffe estate, where we lived for just a year, It would be much appreciated.

Cheers.

[lindylou]

Hello Terry and welcome to the forum. :)

[Jericho]

A couple that Philip may appreciate being a Dingleite. A tram coming down Beloe street and the pub that is now call derelict but was the **** Jennings. The blocks either side of it at Mill Street are King Gardens as you will know.


Ged, are you sure that second one is in the Dingle? It looks more like the stretch of Mill Street between Warwick Street and Hill Street. Is that still the Dingle? I can't work out where the Dingle begins and ends! (I doubt anyone can - it seems to be a moveable feast).

[TerryB]

Hi, Lindy, thanks for the welcome :)

[ChrisGeorge]

A couple that Philip may appreciate being a Dingleite. A tram coming down Beloe street and the pub that is now call derelict but was the **** Jennings. The blocks either side of it at Mill Street are King Gardens as you will know.

Nice to see the old Green Goddess coming down the street, Ged!

Chris

[Paul D]

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/7336/frithbeachad9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Here's a picture of some of my family and locals of Storrington Avenue in Frith Beach,we were on a "chara".The lad pulling the face in the front row is Wayne Rooneys Uncle Bernard and his Nan Pat is the woman with the blonde hair.I can't see myself anywhere so I'm thinking I might already be on the bus.That's my Uncle with the shady muzzie and my Dad's in the centre crouching down.

[Gerard]

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/7336/frithbeachad9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Here's a picture of some of my family and locals of Storrington Avenue in Frith Beach,we were on a "chara".The lad pulling the face in the front row is Wayne Rooneys Uncle Bernard and his Nan Pat is the woman with the blonde hair.I can't see myself anywhere so I'm thinking I might already be on the bus.That's my Uncle with the shady muzzie and my Dad's in the centre crouching down.

Great picture Paul..Happy days Eh Lad.

[Paul D]

Great picture Paul..Happy days Eh Lad.

They certainly were.:p

[ChrisGeorge]

Nice pic, Paul. Thanks for sharing it with us.

Chris

[Ged]

Yes Chris, the old green goddess god bless lol.

Jericho, it's the Dingle as far my pa in law says and he was born off Cockburn street and has drank the area dry but is now a north ender. I know that LCC change sign locations as frequently as the weather (or when snobs complain it shouldn't be L8 etc) - but what would you class that area as then, perhaps Toxteth?

I know lower down on Park Lane, the tenements there were in L1.

[PhilipG]

Yes Chris, the old green goddess god bless lol.

Jericho, it's the Dingle as far my pa in law says and he was born off Cockburn street and has drank the area dry but is now a north ender. I know that LCC change sign locations as frequently as the weather (or when snobs complain it shouldn't be L8 etc) - but what would you class that area as then, perhaps Toxteth?

I know lower down on Park Lane, the tenements there were in L1.

I live in the Dingle, near the Ancient Chapel, but I must admit that I don't know where the boundaries are.
I get the impression it's just a feeling (and a certain amount of pride, perhaps) that people further north say they live in the Dingle.
Wellington Road, for instance, is always claimed to be the Dingle.

[Ged]

Gerard. I remember you saying on the pubs thread that your dad was Born in Arley Street, just by the trees facing the Non Pareil. This picture shows those very houses just before the first world war which were built in 1897 to replace slum property. The scene is looking up from Vauxhall Road towards Summerseat. They were known as 'Scotch Houses' and the front doors were in groups, two leading straight into the ground floor house and the other two leading straight upstairs to seperate houses. They were cleared in the 1960s.
Source: Freddy O'Connor's - A pub on every corner Vol 3.

[Gerard]

Gerard. I remember you saying on the pubs thread that your dad was Born in Arley Street, just by the trees facing the Non Pareil. This picture shows those very houses just before the first world war which were built in 1897 to replace slum property. The scene is looking up from Vauxhall Road towards Summerseat. They were known as 'Scotch Houses' and the front doors were in groups, two leading straight into the ground floor house and the other two leading straight upstairs to seperate houses. They were cleared in the 1960s.
Source: Freddy O'Connor's - A pub on every corner Vol 3.


Ta Ged..Me Uncle John who was also born there will be made up with this when I tell him..I might have that book somewhere or will get it for him.

[Ged]

Gerard. I think Vol 3 is out of print but is available in libraries and probably on ebay or wherever but if you're only interested in that picture itself, you can always get a glossy laser copy from the records office, assuming it's one of theirs (I think it is) but you'll have to join the search room with two forms of I.D.

[Gerard]

Gerard. I think Vol 3 is out of print but is available in libraries and probably on ebay or wherever but if you're only interested in that picture itself, you can always get a glossy laser copy from the records office, assuming it's one of theirs (I think it is) but you'll have to join the search room with two forms of I.D.

Cheers Ged,I'll give that a bash
Anyone got any picture's please of Torr Street which ran from Netherfield Road to St Domingo Rd...I'll give that a bash as well Eh in the Library if nobody has any..Cheers. G.

[The Gardens]

There is a good article in tonight's (Saturday) Echo on life in the Gerard Gardens area.

[robbo176]

Anyone got any picture's please of Torr Street which ran from Netherfield Road to St Domingo Rd....

Hi Gerard
did you live in Torr St? I lived there until about 1986 with my Dad & sister, but my uncles Sammy & John also lived there

Mandy

[Liverpolitan]

Got my old scanner working at last, so can scan some of my postcards. I find this one particularly weird looking, it is so completely different from what is there now.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9752/georgesdockmv4.jpg

Edit: chipped the corner putting it back in the album after scanning:disgust:

This is a grubby old card, but looks like the picture was taken around the same time (I assume they hand-coloured the picture before printing them?). Can anyone date it? Late 1890s maybe?

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/563/prepierhead1fr0.jpg

[Liverpolitan]

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7808/dalestreettramez8.jpg

[Liverpolitan]

A soon to be lost view
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9845/dockofficealbertdockjq3.jpg

[Liverpolitan]

Maybe this size is better...
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8065/pierhead1iu0.jpg

[A.D.W]

Well scanned, Poli.

:handclap:

[PhilipG]

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7808/dalestreettramez8.jpg

Very good views.

Most early postcards date from 1902 when it became possible to write the message on the same side as the address.
So, if there is writing on the picture side of the card, and just the address on the other side it will be older.
Queen Victoria died in 1901, and cards with her postage stamps on them are very rare.

Liverpolitan, would you like to join "Old Liverpool" (see below) and post your cards there, as well?
Thank you.

[robbo176]

Hi Gerard
I only lived in Torr St for a couple of years in the 80's after we were burnt out of the Radcliffe estate
there was an Ellis Family who lived in Clare Terrace
Mandy

[ChrisGeorge]

Hi Liverpolitan

Great postcards. Thanks for posting them here. I encourage you to join the "Old Liverpool" group on Flickr as well. Hope to see you there.

Chris

[Ged]

A couple of pics from a new book, Yesterday's Liverpool by Ian Boumphrey.

The first one from 1874 shows St. John's church to the West of St. George's Hall. The second is a 1955 shot of London Road and Jeromes where all the staged family shots from the area were taken.

[Ged]

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5120/tunnelarch1931bw5.th.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tunnelarch1931bw5.jpg)

[Ged]

That's the Queensway tunnel arch just been put in in 1931. From the book Yesterday's Liverpool by Ian Boumphry.

[PhilipG]

That's the Queensway tunnel arch just been put in in 1931. From the book Yesterday's Liverpool by Ian Boumphry.

I must get this book!
Ian Boumphrey has done many books - mainly Yesterday's Wirral.
They're always well researched, with great photos - usually from postcards.
I think this may be his first about Liverpool.

[Ged]

Yes, he lists all his books inside - Yesterday's Wirral 1 - 9 plus a couple of others.

[ChrisGeorge]

A couple of pics from a new book, Yesterday's Liverpool by Ian Boumphrey.

The first one from 1874 shows St. John's church to the West of St. George's Hall. The second is a 1955 shot of London Road and Jeromes where all the staged family shots from the area were taken.

A nice pic of Jerome's, Ged. I believe my Mom and I had our passport photo taken there. . . I was only age six in 1954 when it would have been done and we were both on the same passport.

Chris

[Ged]

I wonder when it opened Chris because I have photos of my dad taken in 1926 in Jeromes.

[ChrisGeorge]

I wonder when it opened Chris because I have photos of my dad taken in 1926 in Jeromes.

Hello Ged

I came across the following sites which indicate that Jeromes was a nationwide chain with a head office, at least in the 1960's, in Wolverhampton:

http://website.lineone.net/~mauricefisher/Gratispool/Jerome%20Studios.html

http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/PP_I/pp_jerome_0.htm

I am assuming the chain was established some time in the early decades of the twentieth century. Perhaps either from these sites or from elsewhere we can tie down the date the London Road branch of Jeromes began.

Chris

[Gerard]

A couple of pics from a new book, Yesterday's Liverpool by Ian Boumphrey.

The first one from 1874 shows St. John's church to the West of St. George's Hall. The second is a 1955 shot of London Road and Jeromes where all the staged family shots from the area were taken.


Did you get the Book in Town Ged..Where about mate.

[Ged]

Waterstones in Bold street have it Gerard. They keep moving the local history section, now on the left wall as you go in.

[Liverpolitan]

Very good views.

Most early postcards date from 1902 when it became possible to write the

message on the same side as the address.
So, if there is writing on the picture side of the card, and just the address on the other side it will be

older.
Queen Victoria died in 1901, and cards with her postage stamps on them are very rare.

Liverpolitan, would you like to join "Old Liverpool"

(see below) and post your cards there, as well?
Thank you.


Thanks for the info - I have a few that are written on at the front ,which

did look older, so that 1902 date makes a lot of sense. I'll find out how to join your group, that looks great - I've got quite a few old cards now, some I

am really fond of.

[Gerard]

Waterstones in Bold street have it Gerard. They keep moving the local history section,

now on the left wall as you go in.

Good Lad..

[theninesisters]

A picture of the heavily bombed St Nicholas' Church, Pier Head.

(Source unknown)

[ChrisGeorge]

A picture of the heavily bombed St Nicholas' Church, Pier Head.

(Source unknown)

Thanks, Jona. So sad to see. I was though mightily pleased to see the recently posted pics of the interior of St. Nicholas's either by yourself or Gerard perhaps (please correct me if you would) esp. since I have never been in the church.

Chris

[PhilipG]

Thanks for the info - I have a few that are written on at the front ,which did look older, so that 1902 date makes a lot of sense. I'll find out how to join your group, that looks great - I've got quite a few old cards now, some I am really fond of.

Click on the link to Old Liverpool below.
You should see the option to "Join this Group".
Looking forward to having you join us.
pm me if you have any problems.

[theninesisters]

Thanks, Jona. So sad to see. I was though mightily pleased to see the recently posted pics of the interior of St. Nicholas's either by yourself or Gerard perhaps (please correct me if you would) esp. since I have never been in the church.

Chris


Hi Chris, nope they weren't taken by me. Can't put my name to those!

It's quite strange to think that the church/tower there is fairly 'new' i.e. they replaced the church (or at least most of it) after the war and before that in 1810, the old tower came down and had to be totally rebuilt.

Something that you may not know is that after this incident, all church towers were checked in Liverpool for structural problems and it was found that Childwall was in a poor state as well. This is why they built a new tower at All Saints Childwall around the same time as the one at St Nicks!

[ChrisGeorge]

Hi Chris, nope they weren't taken by me. Can't put my name to those!

It's quite strange to think that the church/tower there is fairly 'new' i.e. they replaced the church (or at least most of it) after the war and before that in 1810, the old tower came down and had to be totally rebuilt.

Something that you may not know is that after this incident, all church towers were checked in Liverpool for structural problems and it was found that Childwall was in a poor state as well. This is why they built a new tower at All Saints Childwall around the same time as the one at St Nicks!

Thanks, Jona. No I didn't know that about Childwall Church -- could explain why the "gargoyles" that you showed us recently look a bit "fake"-- eh?

Chris

[theninesisters]

Thanks, Jona. No I didn't know that about Childwall Church -- could explain why the "gargoyles" that you showed us recently look a bit "fake"-- eh?

Chris

'Fake' The cheek of it! LOL - They're original from 1810 and are made of stone. :)

[scouserdave]

Weren't taken that long ago, but they certainly qualify for Liverpool Past:)

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/past001.jpg

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/past002.jpg

[Gerard]

D'yer Like them Phil !!

[PhilipG]

D'yer Like them Phil !!

Certainly do, Gerard. :handclap:
Let me know exactly how you want me to credit your photos.

[john]

Gerard, I have forgotten how that area use to look, cut price records, the model shop, skin, what was the grand looking building by the telephones boxes in your first photos, its also in the second?

I now know the answer it was on another thread.

[FKoE]

Mushy peas... m'mmmm :PDT11

[Ged]

Gerard, Gianelli's was a bit packed about 10 mins ago, give it an hour mate!

[FKoE]

:D

Its cuury sauce and chips for you aye ;)

[The Gardens]

Great pictures Gerard, its amazing how the road does not look that steep, but has been replaced by a gigantic staircase leading to Clayton Square? I bought many an LP from that cut price record store, most of them dodgy imports that made 'flexi-discs' seem as though they were made of bacolite (showing my age now!).

[ChrisGeorge]

Great pics, Gerard! :handclap:

Chris

[PhilipG]

Wonderful, Gerard.
My "Old Liverpool" members are going to get spoiled now that you and Ged have given permission for your photos to be put there.
Thanks, Gents.

[Ged]

Me and our Joey were never out of that City models shop which later moved to Stanley Street. I've grown out of those trains now - he hasn't though :unibrow:

[PhilipG]

Me and our Joey were never out of that City models shop which later moved to Stanley Street. I've grown out of those trains now - he hasn't though :unibrow:

What was the big "Hobbies" shop in Manchester Street called?

And does anybody remember Pat Weeks who used to sell collectables and local history stuff in the old Salerooms in Victoria Street?

[Ged]

Philip, that one on the corner of Manchester street was just called the GAMES shop. I don't know if it's the same collectables that you mean but I remember a place facing harvest home, the entrace being in Temple Court off Victoria st?

[PhilipG]

Philip, that one on the corner of Manchester street was just called the GAMES shop. I don't know if it's the same collectables that you mean but I remember a place facing harvest home, the entrace being in Temple Court off Victoria st?

The GAMES shop. Thanks.

Temple Court would be right, Ged.
Wasn't sure if it was still called Victoria Street.

[Ged]

Yeah, if that's the one Philip, I remember going in there with my dad - poss early 1980s - he was looking through some boxes for old records and 78s and that.

[Gerard]

Wasn't there a "Hobbies" at the rear of M&S on Tarleton St..
Remember getting me Ist Gat out of there.

[ChrisGeorge]

Wasn't there a "Hobbies" at the rear of M&S on Tarleton St..
Remember getting me Ist Gat out of there.

Hi Gerrard

I believe you are correct, as I recall. Nice to remember these little bits from the past. . . :handclap:

Chris

[Ged]

Hobbies was an excellent shop Chris. I used to get all my little plastic animals out of there and my soldiers.

[ChrisGeorge]

Hi Ged and Gerard

Not sure I ever went into Hobbies. I used to like Philip Son and Nephew, the bookstore, and Rushworth and Dreapers for LP's and 45's. :D

Chris

[PhilipG]

Hi Ged and Gerard

Not sure I ever went into Hobbies. I used to like Philip Son and Nephew, the bookstore, and Rushworth and Dreapers for LP's and 45's. :D

Chris

Ah yes, Philip, Son & Nephew.
There were about 3 floors with at least 2 rooms on each.
I always had the feeling it was a converted house.
You might not know, Chris, but it was demolished a few years ago, and is now a Wetherspoons pub.

Ironically, Wetherspoons usually convert interesting old buildings (especially cinemas) and try to retain interesting featues, but perhaps dear old rambling P, S & N was too much of a challenge, even for them.

[Ged]

Alright Gerard lar. As you lot are older than lil me, do any of you remember Wilson's? book shop off Renshaw Street - a rickety old building, behind the shop that Rapids use for their lighting. I think it might have been accessed from Newington. It had it's name painted on the gable end of the wall.

[PhilipG]

Alright Gerard lar. As you lot are older than lil me, do any of you remember Wilson's? book shop off Renshaw Street - a rickety old building, behind the shop that Rapids use for their lighting. I think it might have been accessed from Newington. It had it's name painted on the gable end of the wall.

Certainly do remember Wilson's.
It had its entrance on Renshaw Street, like Rapid's does now.
I've got a pic of Renshaw Street showing it as Wilson's.
Will see if I can find it later.

Just got to go & pick up my photos from ASDA.
I still get prints made of everything I take.

Anyway, young Ged, how old are you?

[Gnomie]

These pics are cool. this is a great thread. its sad how much has gone. I was never into models, apart from the ones who wore the undies in the littlewoods catologue:unibrow: i loved the Ace Place for magic tricks.

Anyone got a pic of the Why Not pub on harrington street, opposite the Crocodile. i went up there last week and its all gone. i loved that pub, it had some great pictures on the walls.

[The Gardens]

Hobbies was an excellent shop Chris. I used to get all my little plastic animals out of there and my soldiers.

Ged, I heard you discarded your Colnels and Sergents and just played with your Privates:PDT11

Seriously, Hobbies was a great shop, amongst others things, I got a Lima train set (better than Hornby!) and a Pelham string puppet.

[PhilipG]

This photo was taken following the announcement that Wilson's bookshop was going to close.
The building was subsequently occupied by Rapid Hardware.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/411941853_9a87f6ce5a_o.jpg

[ChrisGeorge]

This photo was taken following the announcement that Wilson's bookshop was going to close.
The building was subsequently occupied by Rapid Hardware.



Thanks, Philip. I believe I was in that bookshop a few times. There was another old bookshop further down that side street as you went toward Central Station. I remember I salivated over an old copy of the Coucher Book of Whalley Abbey there in a dusty upper story room. The transcript copy was published 1792 or thereabouts and the leather binding was fraying but it was a big heavy old book and they wanted 90 pounds or something way above my budget as a student as I then was. This was in the mid to late 1960's. I was interested in the book because I believe it contained the first record of Stanlawe Grange on present-day Aigburth Hall Avenue, founded for the Cistercian monks of Stanlaw Abbey near Ellesmere Port, which was later taken over by Whalley Abbey near Ribchester.

Chris

[Ged]

Anyone got a pic of the Why Not pub on harrington street, opposite the Crocodile. i went up there last week and its all gone. i loved that pub, it had some great pictures on the walls.

I believe you're getting mixed up with the Philharmonic Hall :)


Philip, i'm only 31. Great old pic btw.


Paul, I used to go into Hobbies and ask for shoulders instead of soldiers but they'd tell me that Ted Heath didn't work there.


Gerard. Good pic off you too. I wonder what it'll look like in 14 years like Phil's, probably not a lot different I suspect.

[bigpab]

I had to move to move to the flats in clough road in speke(1960s) when I was a kid and I don't remember anything like the clough road picture. Anyone know how close to Clough Rd this picture was taken? But there still great pictures. And the link to liverpool city councils photo archive is Fantastic Thanks.

[Gerard]

I believe you're getting mixed up with the Philharmonic Hall :)


Philip, i'm only 31. Great old pic btw.


Paul, I used to go into Hobbies and ask for shoulders instead of soldiers but they'd tell me that Ted Heath didn't work there.


Gerard. Good pic off you too. I wonder what it'll look like in 14 years like Phil's, probably not a lot different I suspect.

THIRTY ONE !!!..THIRRRRRRRRTYYYYYYY ONE...
Take no notice Phil Ged's 45..

[Ged]

Sussssssed ! Bah!

[Liverpolitan]

:sad:

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9189/dukesdockmj2.jpg

[Liverpolitan]

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2949/img018rs6.jpg

[TerryB]

Not sure if anyone has already posted a link to this site, but there's some great old pics on there.

http://www.bernardfallon.com/photo/Liverpool%20Home.html

[shytalk]

Thanks terry, some great pix there. :)

[Ged]

This pic was posted by Springy on the Scouse House forum. It shows the close proximity of our tennies to the fantastic William Brown Street - our playground. Taken in 1971. The Tysons crane, building, behind Thurlow House was something I used to look at from our back veranda, being 9 years old and all that, it was being replicated with my lego and matchbox cars set.

[Ged]

A great load of pics from 76 (the skyscrapercity forum but I saw it on scouse house)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=366588

[XL391]

They are fantastic!!! :PDT11 :PDT_Aliboronz_24: :handclap:

[Liverpolitan]

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5421/churchstreetzm4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Postcard was posted in late 40s, but would need someone who knows about trams and thinks to say if it was a contemporary card for that era, as it might have been pre-war stock still be used?

[ChrisGeorge]

Hi Liverpolitan

Great postcard view of Church Street. Many thanks for posting it. :handclap:

PhilipG might have a better idea but I should say the view is from the 1930s or earlier judging by the look of the trams and motor cars.

Chris

[PhilipG]

I can recognise Green Goddesses from the side, but not sure about the front end views of the nearest two.
This could be early 1930s, as there's no sign of the canopy for the Tatler which opened in 1934, and if that's India Buildings in the background, that was built 1923-30.
Presumably it's out of copyright and OK for me to put on Old Liverpool?

[Liverpolitan]

Hi Chris, Hi Paul - yes please put it on the old Liverpool group if you think it'll add to the collection there. I did join and put a few pictures up there but haven't got the habit yet. Sooner or later I am going to stop being lazy and scan more of my postcards.

[Ged]

A webby I stumbled upon.

http://www.lynettearden.com/liverpool_in_1970s.htm

[chippie]

I,ve noticed you do a lot of stumbling Gedrick, yer not a plonky are yer, and before yer say it, or a plonker. lol:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Seriously mate, nice stumble:handclap:

[Ged]

Ha ha, i've been called worse. :thumbsup:

[chippie]

:PDT_Aliboronz_24:not by me Gedrick, but I,m working on it....lol:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

[Liverpolitan]

http://www.urbanpictorial.co.uk/images/limest1937watermarked.jpg

I picked this up on ebay, it's a pencil drawing / watercolour, dated 1937. The man in the picture framing shop asked if it was Paris, and with sadness I had to say no, it is what Liverpool used to look like.

[ChrisGeorge]

A fine view, well worth purchasing, Liverpolitan, so congratulations on snapping it up. Might I ask what the inscription at lower right says? It's a bit too small for me to read.

Chris

[shytalk]

It looks like "The Quadrant Lime St."
This must have been a very popular place for artists and photographers, we have had some great old photo's of the same place on here.

[Liverpolitan]

Thanks Chris, I was worried the condition might not be so good (there is one small visible dark spot in the sky) but overall it's good.

Shytalk your eyesight is good - it says The Quadrant, Lime Street, 37. I cannot make out the signature though. I've googled on various things it might say (Thiery Lemaire? Lemaine?) and Liverpool and artists etc. but drawn a blank.

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3963/limestsigrj6.jpg

1950s photos show those buildings covered in lights. I can't imagine that was done in the late 40s, with the austerity, so I wonder if that was a modern thing in the 1950s?

Another thing, Lewis's is only sketchy, I wonder if the new building was still be constructed at that time? It seems strange that other buildings are drawn in detail, but Lewis's only in outline.

[Liverpolitan]

Here is a close up of the main buildings

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/8994/limestreet37closeupwateps2.jpg

[shytalk]

Liverpolitan, Lewis's was rebuilt post war, because of the bomb damage.

[PhilipG]

It's not Lewis's, it's the Forum (later ABC) cinema.

[shytalk]

It's not Lewis's, it's the Forum (later ABC) cinema.

Of course it is, how daft I am, shoulda known better.:PDT_Piratz_26: