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ChrisGeorge
11-19-2006, 10:39 PM
The following essay originally appeared in Ripperologist magazine, issue no. 48, August 2003, coinciding the Jack the Ripper convention held that month at the Britannia Adelphi Hotel, Liverpool.


The Bioletti Family of Liverpool: From the Maybrick Case to John Lennon and the Beatles

By Christopher T. George

What connects the Maybrick case of 1889 with the Beatles? It is a bit of a long and winding road, so read on. . . .

‘You Might Well Arsk,’ to quote the title of one of the short, humorous pieces that Beatle John Lennon published in his Edward Lear-like nonsense collection In His Own Write, for which the Liverpool pop musician won Foyle’s Literary Prize, 23 March 1964. At the Foyle’s Luncheon held in his honor, John’s entire acceptance speech was, ‘Thank you very much. You’ve got a lucky face,’ before he made a hasty exit.

Ah, the heady year of 1964, almost four decades ago—the year that the Beatles first made it big in the United States on the Ed Sullivan Show (in February) and came home to Liverpool to a tumultuous Beatlemania-style civic reception on 10 July at the city’s 18th Century Town Hall in Castle Street, the same day they attended the premier of their movie ‘A Hard Day’s Night’ at the city’s Odeon Cinema, London Road. Lennon’s In His Own Write contained a number of satirical and irreverent pieces about ‘Liddypool’ as Lennon described his native city, the site of this year’s Jack the Ripper convention [August 2003]. If the Lord Mayor had read them closely perhaps he wouldn’t have given the lad and his mates a civic reception.

‘There are places I remember. . .’

A Lennon and McCartney song that was to appear on the group’s ‘Rubber Soul’ album released the following year, on 3 December 1965, as originally conceived by John, contained a number of references to places he remembered from his childhood growing up in the southern suburbs of Liverpool. Among the locations mentioned were the tram sheds (streetcar warehouse to our American friends) in Smithdown Road and a certain barber’s shop to the east at the road junction with a bus shelter in a roundabout in the center of the junction known locally as ‘Penny Lane’ from a street that runs into the intersection. Both places were close to John’s first boyhood home of 9 Newcastle Road, located north of the bus shelter. If you know ‘In My Life’ you will be aware that those geographical references were all removed in the final version of the song which speaks in more general terms about the past and loves won and lost. The barber shop though, is famously part of the opening lyrics of the Beatles’ ‘Penny Lane’ released as a single 17 February 1967: ‘In Penny Lane there is a barber showing photographs / Of every head he’s had the pleasure to know. / And all the people that come and go / Stop and say “Hello.”’

During John Lennon’s boyhood, during the 1950’s, the barber was Mr. Bioletti, although the shop in more recent decades has changed hands and was sold by the family. And here is where the connection with the Maybricks comes in—in August 1889, James A. Bioletti, stated to then have been a hairdresser and perfumer of Dale Street, testified at the trial of Florence Maybrick about the use of arsenic as a depilatory. The hairdresser’s testimony was part of an attempt by Florie’s counsel, Sir Charles Russell, to establish that Florie really did soak the flypapers to make an arsenic-based cosmetic, not to bump off husband James, as the prosecution alleged. Bioletti was part of a parade of witnesses who appeared at the trial in St. George’s Hall, Liverpool, before Justice Sir James Fitzjames Stephen.

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Florence Maybrick

The Trial of Mrs. Florence Maybrick

James Bioletti (examined by Sir Charles Russell): I am a hairdresser and perfumer, carrying on business on Dale Street, Liverpool. I have been in business for about thirty years. Arsenic is used a good deal in the hair for some purposes, and I have used it as a wash for the face on being asked for it by ladies. There is an impression among ladies that it is good for the complexion. I have used it on a few occasions, and only when I have been asked for it.

Sir Charles Russell: Was Mrs. Maybrick ever a customer of yours?

Mr. Bioletti: Not to my knowledge.

Mr. Addison (cross-examining): You say that you use it for the hair. Tell me how you use it?

Mr. Bioletti: Very largely for removing hair. It is used principally by ladies for removing hair from the arms. I mix it with lime—one-quarter of arsenic to three-quarters of lime, in powder. I generally use yellow arsenic, but I have used white arsenic. I put the lime and arsenic up together and label it ‘Depilatory,’ along with the directions.

Mr. Addison: There is nothing to show that there is arsenic in it?

Mr. Bioletti: No. I generally put it up in a two-ounce bottle. I produce one of my bottles. The label is as follows:--’Depilatory, to remove superfluous hair; mix with a quantity of water to the consistency of a thick cream, and then spread one-eighth of an inch on skin, and all over it, to remain three minutes; if the skin is sensitive, five minutes. Then remove it with a paper knife. Wash with cold water, and apply a little cold cream. Do not touch a sore or it will be painful.’ I have never tasted it, and I cannot say whether the lime would make the yellow arsenic very nasty to the taste.

Mr. Addison: Do you know whether it is used as a cosmetic?

Mr. Bioletti: Not as a rule. I have been asked for it a very few times in my life. I have been spoken to on the subject by ladies, asking as to its value as a cosmetic. It is supposed to be a good thing for improving the complexion. I only prepared it just for the occasion, and only in small quantity. I only remember distinctly one occasion.

Sir Charles Russell (re-examining): The depilatory is in common use.

Sir Charles Russell: Although you do not have it for sale, are you sometimes asked for it for the purpose of cosmetics?

Mr. Bioletti: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: In that case you would prepared it in that form, I suppose, in solution?

Mr. Bioletti: I would just put a little into milk of almonds. I have seen it in the country papers recommended for making the hair grow.

Was Bioletti a Fighter with Garibaldi?

John Lennon and his boyhood friends thought that the old barber they knew in the 1950’s (John was born in 1940) was an immigrant from Italy, though my research shows otherwise. The Biolettis had actually been in Britain since the early decades of the 19th century, and were descendents of Alberto Bioletti, born about 1778 in Turin, Italy, who married an Englishwoman, Mary Feltham. Possibly Alberto Bioletti was a emigré who had left Italy because of the turmoil of the Napoleonic Wars.

According to a story on an Irish website written by Lennon’s friend David Ashton, the old barber that the schoolfriends knew in the 1950’s had military memorabilia in his shop and gave the impression he could have fought with the Italian freedom fighter, Garibaldi. A stretch, though! The then barber would have had to have been over a century old if he fought with Garibaldi in 1860—as Ripper suspect Roslyn D’Onston is known to have done—to enable him to be still alive when Lennon and his mates frequented the shop!

Ashton remembered:

It was rumoured that old man Bioletti had been involved with Guiseppe Garibaldi (1807-1882) in Italy's battle for independence and statehood. The Bioletti family had old guns, bullets, grenades and pictures of happy Italians waving their flags high, on the walls around the barber shop.

They were certainly a loving, kind, happy family with brother, sister and old man Bioletti cutting your hair. Unless you knew him, and I guess he would have been nearly ninety when I was 9 or 10 years old, old man Bioletti in 'Penny Lane Barber Shop' would frighten the life out of you with his shakey hands thinking that any moment he would nip your neck or cut your ear off. When you knew him he really was a kind, loving, gentle ex-revolutionary who actually loved us lads and he often with his shaky hands deviated from the regulation army-pudding-bowl, short back-and-sides hair cut that our parents demanded—sometimes to good effect, sometimes to bad effect.

Ashton related a hilarious episode that centered on Mr. Bioletti’s ‘shaky hands’ and that once more illustrates John Lennon’s famous offbeat if not bizarre sense of humor:

Old man Bioletti also had a rule that boys could only get their hair cut when there were no men waiting. I had met John going into Bioletti's in Penny Lane on his way back from Quarry Bank School and me from the Bluecoat School. It was after 4 in the afternoon and not long before the men would start arriving on their way home from work with their gasmask knapsacks they used to wear round their necks to carry their packed lunches - their 'bait' - and newspapers. John and I sat down on Bioletti's comfortable bus bench seats that the family had for the boys to sit on and read comics. We were behind two other boys in the queue when some men came in. Exasperated, John said to the two lads in front of us ‘Do you know, last week old man Bioletti's cut off somebody's scalp completely, with his shakey hands. You could actually see the brains wobbling around like a dark grey blancmange inside the head. But he was alright 'cos he stuck the scalp back on with sticking plaster’. The two boys left - without a haircut and we got ours done before the rest of the men came in. It was this taste for devilment and bizarre imagery and creative thinking that made John an attractive friend to have on your side.

The Dorset Connection

As Ripperphiles will know, there are a number of connections of the Jack the Ripper case with Dorset—specifically that leading Ripper suspect Montague John Druitt was a Dorset man as was the man in charge of the case, Chief Inspector Frederick George Abberline of Scotland Yard, and the last canonical victim, Mary Jane Kelly, was killed in a court off Dorset Street, Spitalfields.

Well, not that the Biolettis have, to my knowledge, any direct connection to the Whitechapel murders, except peripherally through Mrs. Maybrick’s trial, if we grant that James Maybrick has been thrust into the limelight as a possible Ripper suspect through the famous or infamous Diary, but it transpires that the family has a Dorset connection too. James Bioletti who testified at for the defense at Florie’s was born in Shaftesbury, Dorset, according to the 1891 census.

Alberto Bioletti, grandfather of James, the man who was born in Turin around 1785, married Mary Feltham, born in Crediton, Devon, who gave birth James Feltham ‘Jacques’ Bioletti (1808-1882) in Crediton. Jacques married Maria Roberts, born about 1806 in Shaftesbury, and they gave birth to James Albert Bioletti (ca. 1836-ca 1921) who testified in the Maybrick case. It must have been ‘Jacques’ Bioletti who placed in the 9 September 1865 edition of the Liverpool newspaper The Star a small front page advertisement reading, ‘Now Open. Bioletti’s New Hair-Dressing Rooms. The Largest Appointed in Liverpool. 31 Bold Street.’ Evidently the Biolettis moved later to Dale Street, or else possibly for a time father and son carried on business separately and simultaneously in those two prosperous Liverpool city streets. This should be the subject of further research.

By the time of the 1881 census, James F. ‘Jacques’ Bioletti was listed in that year before his death as a retired hairdresser, living with his wife Maria in the household of their son-in-law, Frederick T. Smith, at 62 Arundel Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool. The hairdresser and perfumer who appeared at Florie’s trial, James Bioletti, was then aged 45, and he and his Shaftesbury-born wife Elizabeth Smith Bioletti, age 37, lived next door at 64 Arundel Street. Interestingly, in the 1881 census it is beside Elizabeth’s name not James’s, as might be expected, that under ‘occupation’ it states ‘haircutter employing 3 men.’ The couple had six children, ranging from 15-year-old Eliza to two-year-old Cora. All of the children, except the infant Cora, including three boys, Theodore, Leslie, and Kesari, are listed as ‘scholars.’

By the time of the 1891 census, the family of James and Elizabeth Bioletti were living at 144 Granby Street, Toxteth Park. The couple’s first son was listed as a dentist, the younger brother Kesari was an upholsterer, and the second son, Leslie Bioletti, was shown as a hairdresser born circa 1871 presumably assisting his father whose occupation was given as a hairdresser, now age 55, with his wife Elizabeth aged 47. Thus, it may have been Leslie, then aged 20, who was the elderly barber with the ‘shaky hands’ and the alleged ‘Garibaldi revolutionary’ that Lennon and his friends knew if he was still alive when they were boys following the Second World War. My cousin, Kenneth W. Matchett, who lived in Penny Lane in the decade prior to the war in St. Barnabas cottage with his father, Liverpool music hall comedian Billy Matchett (my Grandad’s brother), recalls buying a car from young Harry Bioletti, presumably James Bioletti’s grandson, for £5.0.0! Ah, the good old days! The car, Ken reports, was a 1929 Gordon England fabric covered Austin Seven two-door saloon with sunshine roof, 6 inches square!

Roger Bioletti Adds to the Mersey Beat

Interestingly, following in the Beatles’ footsteps, one of the Biolettis was involved in the pop music business in the mid-1960’s, adding to the Mersey Beat that produced some 300 pop groups following the national and international success of Liverpool groups such as the Beatles, Gerry and the Pacemakers, and the Searchers. Specifically, in 1965, Roger Bioletti, nephew of the barber and son of a head librarian at the Picton Road, Wavertree, branch of the Liverpool City Libraries, became the drummer for the second line up of the Georgians rhythm and blues band. Roger was a Quarry Bank High School schoolboy as were some of the other bandmates, and John Lennon before them (the Beatles were originally known as the Quarrymen). That’s Roger in the Lennonesque Greek fisherman’s hat seated looking rather lost in the group photograph taken in Woolton Woods that year.

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The Georgians--Roger Bioletti seated at center. Courtesy of Tim Dugdill of The Georgians.

Unfortunately, Roger Bioletti is now deceased, or else some of the missing information on the Biolettis’ recent history could have been filled in. He died about ten years ago, and attempts to reach his sister and his former wife have proved fruitless. Tim Dugdill, a fellow bandmember in the Georgians, has sent me some hilarious reminiscences about practicing at Roger’s parents’ house in the Liverpool suburb of Aigburth. Tim relates that Roger’s mother was an antiques dealer and the house was absolutely crammed with antiques—Mrs. Bioletti, he says, used her home as a warehouse. The musicians had to pass their instruments through the windows to get them into the house for band practice!

http://www.beatlestours.co.uk/beatlesimages/pennylanebarber.jpg

As mentioned earlier, some years ago, the Bioletti barber shop in Penny Lane, or more precisely 11 Smithdown Place, Liverpool 15, was sold to another hairdresser, Tony Slavin, offering ‘unisex’ hairdos. The look of the original Bioletti barber shop was re-created for the video of the song ‘Free As a Bird’ on the Beatles Anthology released in 1995. In recent decades, the bus shelter in the roundabout that the Beatles sang about in their 1967 hit ‘Penny Lane’—‘there beneath the blue surburban skies’—has been converted into a café called ‘Dr. Pepper’s.’

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I thank Tim Dugdill of the Georgians for help with this article and David Holmes of the Georgians website, http://www.geocities.com/~fabgear/georgians.htm; Beatles expert Bill Harry; David Ashton for use of his article ‘The Vanished World of a Woolton Childhood with John Lennon’ at http://www.iol.ie/~beatlesireland/Lennon/woolton/woolton1.htm; genealogist Phil Young for his Bioletti family tree; Kenneth W. Matchett; and Peter Wallace.

Other Sources Consulted

1881 British Census, PRO Lancashire, Liverpool, Toxteth Park, RG11/3648/74, pp. 11–12, entries for James F. and Maria Bioletti, and for James A. and Elizabeth Bioletti and family.

1891 British Census, PRO Lancashire, Liverpool, Toxteth Park, RG12/2933/61, p. 15, entry for James A. and Elizabeth Bioletti and family.

Beatles Discography. http://www.beatles-discography.com/index.html

Roy Carr and Tony Tyler, The Beatles: An Illustrated Record. New York: Harmony Books, 1981.

Trevor Christie, Etched in Arsenic. London: George G. Harrap & Co., 1968.

H. B. Irving, ed., Trial of Mrs. Maybrick. Notable British Trials Series. London: William Hodge Ltd., 1927.

Sam Leach, Follow the Merseybeat Road. Liverpool: Eden Publications, 1983.

John Lennon, In His Own Write. New York: Simon and Schuster, 1964.

Ron Jones, The Beatles’ Liverpool. Moreton, Wirral: Ron Jones, 1991.

The Star (Liverpool), 9 September 1865

MissInformed
11-20-2006, 03:56 PM
what a fascinating article!!

ChrisGeorge
11-20-2006, 04:05 PM
Thanks, MissInformed!

Chris

shytalk
11-20-2006, 04:17 PM
Bioletti was the barber for the boarding pupils at my old school, They dreaded his visits. Fortunately I was a day pupil.:037:

lindylou
11-20-2006, 09:48 PM
That was an interesting read. Thanks Chris. :)

SIMON HARRISON
11-20-2006, 10:17 PM
Chris, the Beatles and the Maybricks, conected, wow!! And i thought i was the big cheese on the boys, but i didnt know that one. cheers, a great read

ChrisGeorge
11-21-2006, 07:23 PM
Chris, the Beatles and the Maybricks, conected, wow!! And i thought i was the big cheese on the boys, but i didnt know that one. cheers, a great read


Thanks, Simon. Glad you learned something.

Chris

tina1696
12-29-2006, 12:08 PM
Hi
What an interesting story! I am the great niece of Harry Bioletti, great grandaughter of Leslie ( the old barber with the shakey hands ) I also worked at the Penny Lane salon during the 70s. I thought i had all the info on my Bioletti side of the family right back to Alberto leaving Turin and fighting with napoleon, but never knew anything about the Maybrick conection!!!
Thanks for giving me a little more info on my family :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Christine

Kev
12-29-2006, 12:56 PM
Hi
What an interesting story! I am the great niece of Harry Bioletti, great grandaughter of Leslie ( the old barber with the shakey hands ) I also worked at the Penny Lane salon during the 70s. I thought i had all the info on my Bioletti side of the family right back to Alberto leaving Turin and fighting with napoleon, but never knew anything about the Maybrick conection!!!
Thanks for giving me a little more info on my family :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Christine

Hi Christine and welcome to the forum :PDT_Piratz_26:

FKoE
12-29-2006, 03:57 PM
Great article Chris lad.

Do you know of Johns and even his first wifes connection to Blackpool ?

Something very significant happened in Blackpool, at 25 Ivy Avenue, South Shore. If not for this, the Beatles may never have existed :shock:

Check out Bill Murrays artlicle here <<CLICK>> (http://triumphpc.com/mersey-beat/beatles/johnlennon-blackpool.shtml)

ChrisGeorge
12-29-2006, 06:16 PM
Hi
What an interesting story! I am the great niece of Harry Bioletti, great grandaughter of Leslie ( the old barber with the shakey hands ) I also worked at the Penny Lane salon during the 70s. I thought i had all the info on my Bioletti side of the family right back to Alberto leaving Turin and fighting with napoleon, but never knew anything about the Maybrick conection!!!
Thanks for giving me a little more info on my family :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Christine

Hi Christine

Glad you enjoyed the article. Also fantastic that my research helped you to know I helped you to learn more about your family history. If you have any photographs of the inside or exterior of the barber shop during the Bioletti's ownership, I am sure we would all love to see them. As you know, most shots of the barber shop are of the later ownership by Tony Slavin.

Chris

ChrisGeorge
12-29-2006, 06:17 PM
Great article Chris lad.

Do you know of Johns and even his first wifes connection to Blackpool ?

Something very significant happened in Blackpool, at 25 Ivy Avenue, South Shore. If not for this, the Beatles may never have existed :shock:

Check out Bill Murrays artlicle here <<CLICK>> (http://triumphpc.com/mersey-beat/beatles/johnlennon-blackpool.shtml)


Hi FKoE

No I don't know of the Lennon's connection to Blackpool, though I seem to remember hearing Cynthia had a connection there or to Lytham St. Anne's. I will check out the link. Merci!

Chris

Max
04-27-2007, 01:36 PM
Seen that Barber Shop loads of times and never realised It was Beatles related.:PDT_Xtremez_42:

I've seen the Beatles Pics In the Barbers window too now that you mention it!:PDT_Xtremez_42:

Max
04-27-2007, 01:38 PM
As for Sergent Peppers I think It's being fixed up but It's always closed and reopened as far I know anyway.

The Toilets used to be In Use around the back of the place too but most Public toilets In Liverpool are now shut.

marie
04-27-2007, 02:55 PM
The barber shop has turned into a hairdresser's shop Unisex. The barber shop concerned to such a Mr. Bioletti, but it seems that he was not guarding photo of all the heads that had had the pleasure of knowing! :rolleyes:

"In Penny Lane there is a barber showing photographs..."

A photo of one friend of mine called Eli:

ChrisGeorge
04-27-2007, 02:57 PM
Thanks, Max and Marie!

Chris

MariaC
04-27-2007, 04:46 PM
Well this is my claim to fame. Me mam sent me up to Granby Street to have my little brother's hair cut. Pee Wee was a very popular barbar and he did a lot of his hairdressing with a *cut throat razor*
You will never guess who was in the chair, getting his hair done ? Ritchie Starkie. Ringo

marie
04-27-2007, 04:51 PM
Well this is my claim to fame. Me mam sent me up to Granby Street to have my little brother's hair cut. Pee Wee was a very popular barbar and he did a lot of his hairdressing with a *cut throat razor*
You will never guess who was in the chair, getting his hair done ? Ritchie Starkie. Ringo

Maria, I am prohibited to u, to approach a hairdresser's shop less than 1 mile. You do not cut the hair!! :PDT_Xtremez_42:

Dinah
09-12-2007, 10:32 AM
Hi,

I am the great great grand daughter of James Bioletti who gave evidence in the Maybrick trial. Kesari, his son, was my great grandfather and Fred Bioletti my grandfather. I was given a chair that I knew to have been in the family for some time. It had been sitting in a corner getting sadder and more in need of re-upholstering as the years roll by so I decided to tackle it a couple of days ago. Whilst taking the old upholstery off I put my hand inside the lining and pulled out a card signed by Kesari Bioletti 28/9/28. This awakened my interest in the family history which led me to this website! I was thrilled and touched to find the card - I hope Kesari would be pleased that his great grand daughter is carrying on the family trade (albeit as a novice!).

I was brought up in Liverpool and remember being taken to the site of the furnishers and upholstery shop at 107 Upper Warwick Street, the barbers in Penny Lane and Reg and Flora Bioletti's house (Roger's parents).

Thanks for sharing information about my family.

Steven
09-12-2007, 10:40 AM
Fascinating article thanks for sharing Dinah.

ChrisGeorge
09-12-2007, 10:46 AM
Hi,

I am the great great grand daughter of James Bioletti who gave evidence in the Maybrick trial. Kesari, his son, was my great grandfather and Fred Bioletti my grandfather. I was given a chair that I knew to have been in the family for some time. It had been sitting in a corner getting sadder and more in need of re-upholstering as the years roll by so I decided to tackle it a couple of days ago. Whilst taking the old upholstery off I put my hand inside the lining and pulled out a card signed by Kesari Bioletti 28/9/28. This awakened my interest in the family history which led me to this website! I was thrilled and touched to find the card - I hope Kesari would be pleased that his great grand daughter is carrying on the family trade (albeit as a novice!).

I was brought up in Liverpool and remember being taken to the site of the furnishers and upholstery shop at 107 Upper Warwick Street, the barbers in Penny Lane and Reg and Flora Bioletti's house (Roger's parents).

Thanks for sharing information about my family.

Thank you, Dinah. I am pleased that you enjoyed my article. Feel free to contact me by private message or email if you wish. Meanwhile I do wish you well with your family research. I can well understand your delight at finding the card signed by Kesari Bioletti in 1928! :)

All my best

Chris

SaraBee
04-21-2008, 03:52 PM
Fascinating stuff! I am Roger Bioletti's daughter, in fact I was born the year after that photo was taken, and am intrigued by the stuff I find when researching my family!

A great story, and wonderful research, thanks!:handclap:

ChrisGeorge
04-21-2008, 04:00 PM
Fascinating stuff! I am Roger Bioletti's daughter, in fact I was born the year after that photo was taken, and am intrigued by the stuff I find when researching my family!

A great story, and wonderful research, thanks!:handclap:

Thanks, SaraBee for your kind words. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Chris

kevin
04-21-2008, 11:05 PM
I used to get my hair cut at Bioletti's in the mid 60's - mostly because of a girl who worked there (I remember her name but don't think I should quote it) who would lean across while cutting the top and you'd have a warm breast in your ear for the duration. Told some mates and they all ended up regulars!
At 13/14 it was about the most erotic experience you could have.
For the time, my hair was quite short. All those haircuts.
:unibrow:

cockney-fella
04-22-2008, 10:50 AM
Believe it or not...and this is straight up, my mothers maiden name is Bioletti, the family came over to England after the 1st World War, my mothers parents settled in North London on the Seven Sisters Road.

I know my mother was contacted recently by someone compiling a family tree and the Garibaldi connection was all listed...she'll be made up when she gets this as apparently there are only 12 Bioletti's in the UK, the family originally hails from the Bologna region of Italy.

She's well into her 70's now and now she has time on her hands she likes her family history

Ged
04-22-2008, 11:35 AM
Garibaldi was also the name of 1 of a set of 3 high rise blocks off Netherfield Road too, along with others called after other Italian reformists, Mazzini and Cavour.

cockney-fella
04-22-2008, 12:29 PM
Just spoke to me mum on the phone and she did actually know of him (they were related apparently ) , as she lived in Toxteth in the late 50's as she appeared in variety shows as a dancer and had a long booking in Liverpool don't know which theatre though, She met me old man there ( in the Yankee bar ) as he was down from Newcastle doing his National service with the RAF over on the Wirral somewhere, and he'd come into town for a bevvy.........

Just sent her the link , the old girl was made up, she said when she stopped in L8 though it was very upmarket, ( I told her its probably changed a bit since then ! ).

Made up though small world indeed.

Nice one to the poster :)

ChrisGeorge
04-22-2008, 01:34 PM
Just spoke to me mum on the phone and she did actually know of him (they were related apparently ) , as she lived in Toxteth in the late 50's as she appeared in variety shows as a dancer and had a long booking in Liverpool don't know which theatre though, She met me old man there ( in the Yankee bar ) as he was down from Newcastle doing his National service with the RAF over on the Wirral somewhere, and he'd come into town for a bevvy.........

Just sent her the link , the old girl was made up, she said when she stopped in L8 though it was very upmarket, ( I told her its probably changed a bit since then ! ).

Made up though small world indeed.

Nice one to the poster :)

Hi cockney-fella

Interesting information. It's possible that your mum appeared at the Pavilion (known as "The Pivvy") on Lodge Lane where my great uncle, Billy Matchett, appeared a number of times as a comedian.

Chris

Booness
05-08-2008, 09:40 AM
Wow all these Biolettis!!! I too am a descendant from Alberto Bioletti. However I was wondering if any of you knew of the diary/letters that account for his days in the Napoleonic war. I've read lots of references to them and would love to read more!

ChrisGeorge
05-10-2008, 11:23 AM
Wow all these Biolettis!!! I too am a descendant from Alberto Bioletti. However I was wondering if any of you knew of the diary/letters that account for his days in the Napoleonic war. I've read lots of references to them and would love to read more!

Hello Booness

Great to hear from you. I do not know of any letters or a diary of Alberto Bioletti from the time of the Napoleonic wars. That's not to say that such documents don't exist. They might possibly, in private hands somewhere. I would also be interested to know.

All the best

Chris

taffy
05-10-2008, 07:55 PM
Not quite on Penny Lane but rather Smithdown Place. Photo courtesy Liverpool Record Office

ChrisGeorge
05-10-2008, 08:17 PM
Not quite on Penny Lane but rather Smithdown Place. Photo courtesy Liverpool Record Office

Brilliant. Thanks, Taffy! :handclap:

grahamfairfax
05-28-2008, 12:52 PM
Biolettis was my barber as a youngster in the mid-1950,s.I remember the shop being lined with posters of famous bullfighters of the era like Manilletto(?) and photos of the various hairstyles that one could ask for(although they never looked the same on me!).
When I very small-4 or 5 maybe-I was sat on a wooden plank straddling the arms of the barbers chair enabling my locks to be shorn without too much bending on the barbers part.
Happy days and all for sixpence!

ChrisGeorge
05-28-2008, 04:02 PM
Biolettis was my barber as a youngster in the mid-1950,s.I remember the shop being lined with posters of famous bullfighters of the era like Manilletto(?) and photos of the various hairstyles that one could ask for(although they never looked the same on me!).
When I very small-4 or 5 maybe-I was sat on a wooden plank straddling the arms of the barbers chair enabling my locks to be shorn without too much bending on the barbers part.
Happy days and all for sixpence!

Great memories. Thanks, Graham. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Chris

ChrisGeorge
11-05-2010, 02:24 PM
Bioletti, da barber, cut Lennon's hair,
said "Purritinasong, John, if you dare."
Later Mac and John did that just that;
like the banker, we havata tip our hat.

:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

az_gila
11-05-2010, 03:34 PM
At Quarry Bank, I was in school with one of the Bioletti's - but since I started the year after John L. left - It was probably not Roger of the earlier posting.

As usual for that era, first names were not used, we just knew him as "Bio"...:)

Was there a younger brother?

Oudeis
11-05-2010, 04:11 PM
At Quarry Bank, I was in school with one of the Bioletti's - but since I started the year after John L. left - It was probably not Roger of the earlier posting.

As usual for that era, first names were not used, we just knew him as "Bio"...:)

Was there a younger brother?

Baby-bio? I thought that was for pot-plants. ;)

az_gila
11-05-2010, 04:50 PM
Baby-bio? I thought that was for pot-plants. ;)

I think there was only one at Quarry Bank at a time.

If there were two, he probably would have been "Bio two" - or "little Bio" depending on his height...:)

"Baby" was not a usual Liverpool term of endearment amonst our age in the 60's...

cosser65
02-21-2011, 05:20 PM
This is fab - Harry and his wife, Betty retired to live next door to my gran and grandad in Carmel, North Wales and a while after Harry died (around the same time as my grandad Autumn 1977), Betty moved to Prestatyn but kept in touch with my gran who wouldn't have a phone put in!! They were a lovely couple and he often used to tell of cutting the Beatles hair.

My grandparents were from Liverpool & Southport (Maddocks and Highton respectively) and my gran's dad was Greek so goodness knows where the 'Maddocks' came from.