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ChrisGeorge
11-19-2006, 07:10 PM
Hi all
Excerpts from Sir Paul McCartney's new classical work, 'Ecce Cor Meum', his elegy to his late wife, Linda, can be heard both on his website (http://www.paulmccartney.com/main.php) and also on the U.S. National Public Radio website which includes an interview with the great man. Go to "Paul McCartney's 'Ecce Cor Meum' in Concert." (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6468926)
Chris
shytalk
11-19-2006, 07:30 PM
Back in 2003 he did a concert at Kings Dock, it was a sellout and made him a fortune to add to his already huge fortune, 12 days before that he had done a free concert in Rome. Why doesn't he do a freebie for his home city?
ChrisGeorge
11-19-2006, 07:35 PM
Back in 2003 he did a concert at Kings Dock, it was a sellout and made him a fortune to add to his already huge fortune, 12 days before that he had done a free concert in Rome. Why doesn't he do a freebie for his home city?
An excellent point, Shytalk, we should get on to him and persuade him to do a freebie for Liverpool. We deserve it.
Chris
shytalk
11-19-2006, 08:28 PM
The truth is ChrisGeorge none of them even liked Liverpool, it seems they hated coming back there. I lost what little respect I had for them years ago. Got to admit though, Liverpool Oratorio was magnificent. The music was composed by McCarthy but was actually put on paper by a composer from New York, can't remember his name but I saw it on a movie on the making of the film. It was broadcast on Public TV over here. I still have a copy of the concert on VHS.
ChrisGeorge
11-19-2006, 09:11 PM
The truth is ChrisGeorge none of them even liked Liverpool, it seems they hated coming back there. I lost what little respect I had for them years ago. Got to admit though, Liverpool Oratorio was magnificent. The music was composed by McCarthy but was actually put on paper by a composer from New York, can't remember his name but I saw it on a movie on the making of the film. It was broadcast on Public TV over here. I still have a copy of the concert on VHS.
Hello shytalk
The attitude you report, that the Beatles had made it in London and beyond and did not want anything to do with Liverpool any longer, is certainly the same as I heard from Liverpool people beginning in the mid-1960's and 1970's after group had, as it were, abandoned the 'Pool to go south. Although I would contend that Sir Paul has in recent years done much for Liverpool, in terms of supporting the School for the Arts, and helping to publicize the city's renaissance. I wonder what is the attitude of current residents in Liverpool to Sir Paul and the Beatles in general?
All my best
Chris
Louis
11-19-2006, 09:20 PM
The truth is ChrisGeorge none of them even liked Liverpool, it seems they hated coming back there. I lost what little respect I had for them years ago. Got to admit though, Liverpool Oratorio was magnificent. The music was composed by McCarthy but was actually put on paper by a composer from New York, can't remember his name but I saw it on a movie on the making of the film. It was broadcast on Public TV over here. I still have a copy of the concert on VHS.
carl davis
ChrisGeorge
11-19-2006, 09:28 PM
carl davis
Hello Louis
Yes you're right, if the implication is that Carl Davis played an essential role in bringing about McCartney's "The Liverpool Oratorio" then I think you are absolutely correct, and that it might not have been possible without the good graces of Mr Davis. I don't think it is any secret that Paul McCartney is a relative neophyte in the world of classical music. Although I think he should be given credit for extending his musical boundaries as the Beatles constantly did as a group, which is more than can be said for most groups in pop music, which usually turned out to be one-hit entities.
Best regards
Chris George
Waterways
11-19-2006, 09:42 PM
The truth is ChrisGeorge none of them even liked Liverpool, it seems they hated coming back there.
That is nonsense. None of them lived in Liverpool as the major music scene was elsewhere - Liverpool was, and still is, a backwater. All except John regularly visited their relatives in Liverpool. John could not as he could not leave the USA because of Yokos child custardy case and other reasons. John was about to visit Liverpool then he was killed. Yoko said he always talked about the place.
Waterways
11-19-2006, 09:44 PM
An excellent point, Shytalk, we should get on to him and persuade him to do a freebie for Liverpool. We deserve it.
Chris
He said he wants to do Kings Dock when complete.
ChrisGeorge
11-19-2006, 10:03 PM
That is nonsense. None of them lived in Liverpool as the major music scene was elsewhere - Liverpool was, and still is, a backwater. All except John regularly visited their relatives in Liverpool. John could not as he could not leave the USA because of Yokos child custardy case and other reasons. John was about to visit Liverpool then he was killed. Yoko said he always talked about the place.
Hi Waterways
Indeed, I don't blame the Beatles for going where the action was, and any artist would want to do that, to further their career. They could not have become the world-stature artists they became by remaining in Liverpool. They themselves and Brian Epstein more than anyone knew that. At the same time, it is foolish to believe that they totally severed their connections to their roots, as such songs as "Penny Lane" and "Strawberry Fields" clearly showed, and even in such songs as "Glass Onion" they made tangential allusions to their home town, when they referenced the "Cast Iron Shore" at St. Michael's. Moreover, as you state, all the Beatles except for John visited the city in later years and John was not able to do so mostly for legal reasons.
Chris
lindylou
11-20-2006, 09:39 PM
As far as I understand - or what I've gathered from what I've heard and read - Paul has visited the area on many occassions. He still is in close contact with his relatives who still live around and about - I think some of them, certainly his brother Mike, live on the Wirral. (If I'm not mistaken).
I read that Paul has many times taken a drive past his former houses where he used to live in the old days. I remember reading something about him sitting in his car and looking at his old house in Forthlin rd.
I don't get the feeling that Paul has forgotten his roots. I think he still probably has a great affection for Liverpool.
I think John still had Liverpool in his heart deep down.
Not sure about the other two.
George was very private and kept to himself. I don't recall hearing much about him revisiting the city. Maybe he did or maybe he didn't.
Ringo, I don't know. We didn't hear much about him. He seemed to be taken with the American lifestyle. Is he still living in the States ?
Paul has always kept a link with us. I remember when they had the premier at the Liverpool Odeon for that film in the 1980s .. can't think of the name now .. :rolleyes: ... around about the time of 'NO More Lonely Nights' ..
....... I'm waffling now !! :rolleyes: :037:
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