Liverpool has more Goergian terraces, buildings and squares than Bath!

I have been thinking about this statement the past few weeks and I can't see how!!

I love Bath, after Liverpool it is my fave place. But I can't see how Lpool has more Georgian buildings....

where are all the Georgian Buildings here? besides Rodney street.

And I got the pics to prove It.:PDT10

http://www.flickr.com/photos/maxmolyneux/sets/72157594584066168/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/maxmolyneux/sets/72157594552030907/

I have been thinking about this statement the past few weeks and I can't see how!!

I love Bath, after Liverpool it is my fave place. But I can't see how Lpool has more Georgian buildings....

where are all the Georgian Buildings here? besides Rodney street.

A lot are of course not in good condition but try looking at the Duke St, Slater St, Seel St, Bold St areas. Also look at the Abercromby area. The best surviving Georgian Town house is I believe on the corner of Trueman St and Dale St.

Has anyone counted them? In Bath and Liverpool?

It's mainly because of L8 that Liverpool is said to have "more Georgian buildings than Bath".
Once you get to the other side of Catharine Street most of the so-called "Georgian" area was actually built when Victoria was Queen (and most of the other side [until you get into town] is 19th century).
It would be more correct to call Liverpool's (L8) architecture "late Georgian style" rather than "Georgian".
The comparison with Bath is not a good one, in my opinion, as Bath's Georgian is on average 100 years older than Liverpool, and built with the beautiful Bath stone, rather than Liverpool's plain brick.

It's mainly because of L8 that Liverpool is said to have "more Georgian buildings than Bath".
Once you get to the other side of Catharine Street most of the so-called "Georgian" area was actually built when Victoria was Queen (and most of the other side [until you get into town] is 19th century).
It would be more correct to call Liverpool's (L8) architecture "late Georgian style" rather than "Georgian".
The comparison with Bath is not a good one, in my opinion, as Bath's Georgian is on average 100 years older than Liverpool, and built with the beautiful Bath stone, rather than Liverpool's plain brick.

great point Philip!
Does anyone know where the statement about us having more Georgian buildings came from?

Lets get a counting!!:)

I found reference to it here (http://www.merseyside.org.uk/default.asp) on the The Mersey Partnership

Merseyside Facts
TOURISM FACTS

* Liverpool has been designated European Capital of Culture 2008 and its waterfront is a UNESCO World Heritage site.

* There are more museums, theatres and galleries than any other City Region outside London - including Tate Liverpool, The Walker, Merseyside Maritime Museum, Liverpool Empire and the Lady Lever Art Gallery.

* Liverpool has more Grade II-listed buildings than any other city in the UK outside London and more Georgian buildings than Bath.

* Merseyside is the Golfing Capital of England. There are over 40 courses, 7 of which are leading championship venues. Royal Liverpool played host to the Open Championship in 2006 and Royal Birkdale is due to host the competition in 2008.

* Liverpool has a sporting edge, with Liverpool and Everton Football Clubs, St.Helens Rugby League FC (Saints) and Aintree Racecourse - home of the world's greatest steeplechase, the Grand National.

* Merseyside has some of the finest modern architecture in Europe including St George's Hall, the Metropolitan Cathedral, the Anglican Cathedral, the Pier Head's "Three Graces" and the Walker Art Gallery.

* 90% of Merseyside's has 135km is internationally important for nature conservation, including more than 60km of beach.

* Liverpool is the Birthplace of The Beatles. Here you can visit Strawberry Fields, Penny Lane, The Cavern and the homes of John Lennon and Sir Paul McCartney.

* Liverpool is the most filmed-in city outside London, with films such as A Letter to Brezhnev, the 51st State, The Hunt for Red October, In the Name of the Father and Hilary and Jackie being shot here.

Source (http://www.merseyside.org.uk/displaypage.asp?page=40)

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Those pics are boss

Those pics are boss

Thank you...Boss..:unibrow:

Lovely photos Gerard :PDT_Piratz_26:

I like the 6th one :handclap:

Lovely photos Gerard :PDT_Piratz_26:

I like the 6th one :handclap:

Ta Mandy girl :PDT_Aliboronz_11:

Ta Mandy girl :PDT_Aliboronz_11:

great photos gerard :)

7th then 5th. Well did kid :)

great photos gerard :)

Thank You DC..would you like some more ?

7th then 5th. Well did kid :)


Ta Ged Lad.:PDT11

:)Thank You DC..would you like some more ?

Ohh yes please!
Lots more Georgian buildings if you have them please Gerard :)

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I really enjoyed your pics Gerard,

Excellent :PDT_Piratz_26:

Thankyou for sharing them with us :handclap:

Jacky :)

:)I really enjoyed your pics Gerard,

Excellent :PDT_Piratz_26:

Thankyou for sharing them with us :handclap:

Jacky :)

Brilliant pics Gerard worth the wait!

Really unusual, love the last one!:)

Thanks Jacky,DC..Glad yer like them..Thanks again girls. :PDT_Aliboronz_11:

This thread has needed some action, well one everyone involved!

Took a few pics on my camera phone today walking home from work along Hope Street, Gambier Terrace and the Cathedral.

Not very good quality (Gerard has nothing to worry about! :) )

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Carrie132/07-08-07_1705.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Carrie132/07-08-07_1711.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Carrie132/07-08-07_1712.jpg

They are all Liverpool Views, thanks so much :handclap::PDT11

There lovely pics Daisy :handclap:

Great buildings !

Jacky :PDT11

May i make a request please :PDT_Aliboronz_11:

If anyone is near Aigburth Drive No 25 = Greystoke, will you take a picture for me.................I'm cheeky arnt i :unibrow:

Thankyou

Jacky x :PDT_Piratz_26:

cheeky Jacky, I,m cheeky chippie, how are yer girl:PDT_Aliboronz_11:

Hiya Chippie, i'm fine thanks :PDT11

Sometimes, i just sit back and listen to you all and i am in pleats laughing at you :)

Sometimes i go through all the pics - what talent we have on here :handclap: WOW

I'll just be cheeky the once then..............Lol

Jacky x :PDT_Piratz_26:

I,m cheeky all the time, goodness the laughing I do on this forum. Me mam would kill me if she knew what I get up to on this.

We never did get to the bottom of the Georgian Buildings thing!

Philip made a great point though.

We need some new pics on here I think.

Apart from the Hope Street/Rodney Street area, where are the otherGeorgian buildings? Are there any?

The houses on Russell Street by Copperas Hill look Georgian. Captain Turner of the Lusitania lived on Russell Street in his youth.

Georgian buildings are scattered about the city Rodney St & Upper Parli is where they are dense.

The houses on Russell Street by Copperas Hill look Georgian. Captain Turner of the Lusitania lived on Russell Street in his youth.

Thanks. Does anyone have any pics of this area to share?

Mornington Terrace, Upper Duke Street.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/195/morningtonterraceltorwj3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



Clare Terrace, Marmaduke Street.

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There are loads on Shaw Street. I was involved in the project to rehabilitate the dilapidated ones opposite the Collegiate, by Hope College. The staircases inside and the ceilings are really beautiful and whilst they are worth doing, from the heritage point alone, the cost is astronomical. Understandably, you are not allowed to knock down a lot of the internal walls or the georgian window frames, so you have to partition wall a lot of stuff. Fitting central heating and stuff can be a nightmare. There is also the issues of the aesthetic design. A lot of these rehabilitated buildings have false front doors to give a united and "original" look to mask necessary rehabilitation work within. I always think it would be great to live in one but those high ceilings are very hard to heat. Most of these properties are sorted out with mixed grants from housing agencies, English Heritage etc so I dont think there is a lack of interest in them per se, its the huge undertaking and the maintenance costs are often prohibitive. But are they not a wonder and a
massive enhancement to our city?

We never did get to the bottom of the Georgian Buildings thing!

Philip made a great point though.

We need some new pics on here I think.

Apart from the Hope Street/Rodney Street area, where are the otherGeorgian buildings? Are there any?


I haven't seen this thread for a while.
It's a shame that a lot of the pictures have gone.

I think it's been said, but most of Duke Street/Seel Street/Slater Street is Georgian.
The comparison with Bath is completely wrong.
For instance, Bath was built for tourists, and wealthy ones at that, and it's a very small city, anyway.

Church Mount off Marmaduke Street.

We really are spoilt for choice as to what to photograph when you think that Edge Hill, Everton, Anfield and Wavertree have lots of this type of housing which is more synonymous with the likes of Canning,Toxteth, Childwall and Woolton.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6839/churchmountoffmarmab0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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Church Mount off Marmaduke Street.

We really are spoilt for choice as to what to photograph when you think that Edge Hill, Everton, Anfield and Wavertree have lots of this type of housing which is more synonymous with the likes of Canning,Toxteth, Childwall and Woolton.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6839/churchmountoffmarmab0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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Brilliant pics Ged!
Keep them coming!:PDT11

Thanks Daisychains. I will ;)

Can i ask some advice/opinions whist we re on this subject. There is an old pub near me and it is not in Liverpool. It is currently boarded up and on offer for lease. I get the feeling that sooner or later it will be knocked down and I think because of its unusual shape, it needs to be listed. I think it would make a tremendous apartment block or remain a pub etc. Can anyone give me any advice about how a building becomes listed and do you think from the attached photo that it is worth saving? Thanks in anticipation. Chris

It's certainly an interesting shape and is a period building but as Philip will tell you, that counts for nothing as even a cinema with it's original 1910 facade in tact (or was) couldn't even get listed status and is one of only a handful in the country. You need to contact your local town hall who will have a dept who should deal with that and/or English heritage with some reason as to why it's of special interest.

Thanks Ged. The fact that I live in a Victorian town with few redeeming features and the shape of the premises make them interesting and appealing to me. Maybe thats not enough but I'll buzz my councillor. If it was in the centre of London it would be worth a fortune. But then, so is a broom cupboard eh!

Many of these buildings are in the "Georgian" style in that they were built outside the Georgian Period. Here's a few around Liverpool. Sadly a lot are in poor condition, especially those near the city centre, Duke St, Hanover St etc.

Great pics Taffy.

Great pics Taffy.

Thanks, here's a few more. Some in better condtion than others !!

Thanks, here's a few more. Some in better condtion than others !!

Brilliant pictures.
Just what the thread needs!:handclap:

Can i ask some advice/opinions whist we re on this subject. There is an old pub near me and it is not in Liverpool. It is currently boarded up and on offer for lease. I get the feeling that sooner or later it will be knocked down and I think because of its unusual shape, it needs to be listed. I think it would make a tremendous apartment block or remain a pub etc. Can anyone give me any advice about how a building becomes listed and do you think from the attached photo that it is worth saving? Thanks in anticipation. Chris

Don't let anybody's bad experiences with English Heritage (including mine) put you off, Chris.
Anybody can submit any building they like for Listing.

Manchester is the place you want.
Here's a link:
http://www.buildingconservation.com/directory/ad369.htm

Great Philip, thanks very much.

My Georgian styled "Edwardian" block, that I live in.

http://i27.tinypic.com/2nk5gnq.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/122c774.jpg

I know i've posted some of these up before but they'll be buried on the 1980/90s thread somewhere. These are on Shaw Street and taken by me in 1990, (the block on the 3rd pic has gone) The last one taken by Joe Devine captures the 'unique' homeless hostel on the left (see the Acacia house thread) also the Ann Fowler womens refuge, part of the Radcliffe estate and St. Georges Heights.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3707/shawst190dj2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/925/shawst290qo0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1118/shawstnrmoss90xz3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


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Shaw Street: Some of those buildings, to the left of the Gymnasium have been demolished recently. They were still standing when I passed a couple of months ago.

In Wavertree High St

a few I have from around by the cathedral

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http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging%20pix/Picture042.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging%20pix/Picture041-1.jpg

A shame they let Grosvenor demolish one of the oldest Georgian houses left in the city centre that stood on Hanover street

Lord Nelson Street.


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Taken at the top of Seel St.

Anymore, anyone?