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scouserdave
11-08-2006, 02:30 PM
Should Liverpool have it's own Gay Quarter like they have in Mancland? Being a hairy arsed Brut aftershaved hetro, I'm ambivelent to the idea, but I have a few gay mates who feel strongly that we should.

Your views please.

The Teardrop Explodes
11-08-2006, 02:37 PM
of course.

Given the choice between hairy-arsed gangs lookin for a scrap in Concert Sq. or cruisey mincers on Stanley St feeding decent coffee shops, semi-interesting clubs and sundry after-hours activity and I know what I'd identify as THE viable economic driver.

Paul D
11-08-2006, 02:41 PM
As long as we have seperate toilets.:)

ChrisGeorge
11-08-2006, 02:42 PM
Not gay myself but I have gay friends. I am not opposed to the idea. To each his (or her) own.

Chris

scouserdave
11-08-2006, 02:44 PM
As long as we have seperate toilets.:)
Thanks Teardrop:PDT_Piratz_26:
Paul! I almost wet my knickers laughing out after I read your response:)

Paul D
11-08-2006, 02:51 PM
I suppose I'll get accused of being narrowminded but I'm not going in no toilet in a gay bar sh#t goes down in there.:rolleyes:

scouserdave
11-08-2006, 02:51 PM
Can I please stress that I am not a homosexual and I am comfortable with my sexuality. I'm not gay, d a m n you!:PDT_Aliboronz_11:

Paul D
11-08-2006, 02:55 PM
Can I please stress that I am not a homosexual and I am comfortable with my sexuality. I'm not gay, d a m n you!:PDT_Aliboronz_11:

On the subject of toilets I've just had a vision of you walking into the toilets with that big camera of yours,imagine the looks you'd get,you'd have to wear a T-Shirt saying that.:D

scouserdave
11-08-2006, 02:59 PM
I suppose I'll get accused of being narrowminded but I'm not going in no toilet in a gay bar sh#t goes down in there.:rolleyes:
The memory of when you puckered up your lips at me in the Lisbon is etched in my heart, Paul!:Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:

ChrisGeorge
11-08-2006, 03:01 PM
On the subject of toilets I've just had a vision of you walking into the toilets with that big camera of yours,imagine the looks you'd get,you'd have to wear a T-Shirt saying that.:D

Oh you fellows fondling your big telephoto lenses. . . :unibrow:

Paul D
11-08-2006, 03:01 PM
The memory of when you puckered up your lips at me in the Lisbon is etched in my heart, Paul!:Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:

I knew there was chemistry.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

scouserdave
11-08-2006, 03:02 PM
On the subject of toilets I've just had a vision of you walking into the toilets with that big camera of yours,imagine the looks you'd get,you'd have to wear a T-Shirt saying that.:D
Been there Paul.
The looks I get when taking pics of the Philharmonic Pub Bogs!:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

scouserdave
11-08-2006, 03:05 PM
Oh you fellows fondling your big telephoto lenses. . . :unibrow:
I keep telling the missus that size isn't everything, but she won't believe me!

BTW this thread is becoming more like a Carry On movie script!:)

Paul D
11-08-2006, 03:08 PM
Been there Paul.
The looks I get when taking pics of the Philharmonic Pub Bogs!:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Especially when it's full.:) Back to the subject,personally it wouldn't bother either way they're pretty harmless so I can't see a problem and it'll surely be good for the local economy.

john
11-08-2006, 05:27 PM
Should Liverpool have it's own Gay Quarter like they have in Mancland? Being a hairy arsed Brut aftershaved hetro, I'm ambivelent to the idea, but I have a few gay mates who feel strongly that we should.

Your views please.

Back to the question asked.
Liverpool already has a thriving Gay community and has done for a long time, unsure if they all need to be in the same area/quarter as in Manchester's Gay Village, I think its good for Liverpool which ever way it continues to develop whether you are gay or not.

john
11-08-2006, 05:31 PM
of course.

Given the choice between hairy-arsed gangs lookin for a scrap in Concert Sq. or cruisey mincers on Stanley St feeding decent coffee shops, semi-interesting clubs and sundry after-hours activity and I know what I'd identify as THE viable economic driver.

Unsure about the terminology but agree with sentiments

The Teardrop Explodes
11-08-2006, 05:44 PM
what "cruisey mincers"? Just jokin. Was only tring to balance out my slightly unfair generalisation of the straight lads.

john
11-08-2006, 05:58 PM
yes I now see what you were doing, I agree with the sentiments you were putting across.

Kev
11-08-2006, 06:15 PM
Not frequenting nightclubs slighty gay ever, I cannot possibly comment on the ins and outs of homosexuality (if thats the correct word to use these days). I do know plenty of scouse ladies who do go to these areas often becuase of the atmoshpere etc....

Its like can u put a fruit pastel in your mouth without chewing it.....can a thread about a Gay area in Liverpoool continue without any jokes or innuendo?

There's lots of cash to be made from the pink pound.

scouserdave
11-08-2006, 06:35 PM
I cannot possibly comment on the ins and outs of homosexuality
Oh Kev! LOL!:Colorz_Grey_PDT_24:

Kev
11-08-2006, 07:20 PM
A BIG revamp of Liverpool's city centre could bring millions into the nightlife economy, backers claimed today.

Plans to create a more cosmopolitan area of town clustered around a new gay quarter were revealed in the ECHO last week.

The scheme would see parts of Stanley Street and Cumberland Street pedestrianised at night in abid to create a more easy-going, European-style atmosphere.

And one of the main backers of the plan said the new nightlife zone could bring millions into the city.Steve Radford, Liberal councillor and co-chairman of the Gay Business Association, said he wanted to see a "more imaginative" use of the streets, rather than just agay village.

He said: "Manchester's vibrant nightlife makes millions for the city, I want to see something like that here.

"This is about making the city more of a nightlife city.

"It is not exclusively gay. It is about developing a diverse nightlife in Liverpool for the benefit of everybody."

Stanley Street would be pedestrianised between Dale Street and Victoria Street by using either permanent or rising bollards at night.

There are also plans to use the bollards, with resident/business only access, on Eberle Street, where Garlands and G-Bar are based, and Cumberland Street.Cllr Radford said: "It would create a different environment for everybody. Something with a bit more imagination.

"Having a more relaxed clubland will access a wider audience.

"It is not about a gay village, because that is already there in all but name.

"It is about making it safer and more attractive to visitors whether they are gay or straight."

Labour deputy leader Paul Brant, who jointly proposed the idea, said: "For a long time Manchester has had a thriving gay quarter which has not only regenerated part of the city but also attracted visitors.

"Liverpool does not have an identifying gay quarter and this seems the ideal opportunity."If would be unfortunate for Liverpool to continue missing out on the economic benefits and investment and opportunities for jobs."

But Gary Everett, festival director for Liverpool's Homotopia Festival, has mixed feelings about the plans.

He said: "If it is about safety, then of course this takes precedence.

"I have serious reservations, though, about the manufacture or creation of a village as it feels like we are becoming ghettoised at a time when we should be reaching out for greater integration and inclusion.

"Re-enforcing a partof the city as a 'gay' zone has Orwellian overtones and I'm not 100% certain we need to congregate, socialise and drink in the one part of the city.

"A ghetto is a backward step, but I applaud any moves to create greater visibility and acceptance."

Andy Green, who writes the Out and About column for the ECHO's Friday night club page, also has reservations.

He said: "I'm not really into villages because they can become ghettos.

"I would like to see Stanley Street pedestrianised and maybe Cumberland Street and would like Liverpool to be seen as a tourist destination for gay people.

"But I am into integration rather than separation. I am not into marking areas out."

A spokesman for the Lesbian and Gay Foundation (LGF), said: "Liverpool has lived in the shadow of Manchester for far too long.

"Liverpool is a great city. Finally acknowledging its fabulous gay community will mean that it is a 21st century UK city to be proud of."

Frank McKenna, chairman of Downtown Liverpool in Business, said: "Canal Street in Manchester has worked particularly successfully and is a place you can go and have a fantastic night enjoyed by the whole of the community.

"It's a pity it has taken so long to get this issue on the agenda here, but it is a positive move and something we welcome."

Manchester's Canal Street

MANCHESTER'S Canal Street was built alongside the construction of the canal, with pubs built to service its users.

In the 1960s the canals declined because of the collapse of the cotton industry.

The Canal Street area then began to attract the gay community, who moved into the area from the 1970s.

It eventually became the largest gay village in Europe.

The street is the main focus of Manchester's gay community and is lined with bars, clubs, cafes and shops.

source (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=gay-quarter-at-heart-of-city-revamp%26method=full%26objectid=17994546%26page=3% 26siteid=50061-name_page.html)...

Howie
11-09-2006, 04:27 PM
Say no to the gay quarter
Nov 9 2006
By Pete Price, Liverpool Echo

THERE'S been a lot of talk of having a gay quarter in Liverpool. Well, I know who will be the most delighted if that happens - the qu*er-bashers.

Because if you think homosexuals have it easy these days, think again.

Homophobia is alive and well and living in Liverpool.

So if there's a designated area in Liverpool, certain people will think: "I'm bored - let's go bash a qu*er."

Apart from that, I don't know what the use of having one would be. Most gay people know where the bars and clubs are.

Story continues (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=say-no-to-the-gay-quarter%26method=full%26objectid=18070766%26siteid =50061-name_page.html#story_continue)...

The Teardrop Explodes
11-09-2006, 05:05 PM
I know what you mean, but I think most of these actions are encouraged as a result things being hidden away and slightly furtive.

How many time has C(anal) S(treet) -as it's known- been besieged by homophobic gangs? Hardly ever, if ever.

Liverpool's still a bit wierd about homosexuality almost BECAUSE there isn't a Gay Quarter.
I mean as a teen Liverpool was a whole lot more wierd about you if you weren't a scall, precisely cos they were very few of us 'freaks' around. Now you see emo goths everywhere a lot of people don't give flyin f*** anymore.

scouserdave
11-09-2006, 05:08 PM
I knew this article was coming out, but I didn't expect it to be written by Pete Price. Is this the same guy who DJ's on Radio City and has LFC flags all around the world stating that "Pete Price is a cnut"? LOL!

The Teardrop Explodes
11-09-2006, 05:14 PM
"THERE'S been a lot of talk of having a gay quarter in Liverpool. Well, I know who will be the most delighted if that happens - the qu*er-bashers.

Because if you think homosexuals have it easy these days, think again.

Homophobia is alive and well and living in Liverpool.

So if there's a designated area in Liverpool, certain people will think: "I'm bored - let's go bash a qu*er."

Apart from that, I don't know what the use of having one would be. Most gay people know where the bars and clubs are."
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er...sorry Howie I replied that as if it was your own work rather than a quote..

scouserdave
11-09-2006, 05:37 PM
This q ueer bashing bollocks makes no sense to me! Why t wat a bloke because he fancies another fellow?

Kev
11-09-2006, 06:22 PM
As this zone hasn't been set up. I'm moving this the discussion section. Lets keep it constructive so not to offend members of the forum please, gay or not.

A.D.Williams
11-09-2006, 07:14 PM
Say no to the gay quarter
Nov 9 2006
By Pete Price, Liverpool Echo

THERE'S been a lot of talk of having a gay quarter in Liverpool. Well, I know who will be the most delighted if that happens - the qu*er-bashers.

Because if you think homosexuals have it easy these days, think again.

Homophobia is alive and well and living in Liverpool.

So if there's a designated area in Liverpool, certain people will think: "I'm bored - let's go bash a qu*er."

Apart from that, I don't know what the use of having one would be. Most gay people know where the bars and clubs are.

Story continues (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=say-no-to-the-gay-quarter%26method=full%26objectid=18070766%26siteid =50061-name_page.html#story_continue)...

Oi vay! Never thought I would find myself agreeing with the King.

:)

scouserdave
11-09-2006, 07:41 PM
Oi vay!
:)
LOL!
You're a mensch Dave!:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

A.D.Williams
11-09-2006, 07:48 PM
LOL!
You're a mensch Dave!:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Even the True Torah Jews are against the *****s.

'The Gay Pride Parade in Jerusalem is a Direct Consequence of the Zionist Ideology!

On Thursday, November 9, 2006, the Central Rabbinical Congress (CRC) of the United States and Canada will protest the Gay Pride Parade scheduled in Jerusalem for this Friday, November 10. The protest will take place in front of the Israeli Consulate at 800 Second Avenue, in New York City, at 4:00 p.m.

On Friday, in Jerusalem, protestors against the parade are expected to number over 250,000 and additional local protests have been organized in most of Israel's major cities.

Israeli Police have been compelled to mobilize an incredible force of 12,000 officers from all over the country to try to prevent bloodshed and Magen Dovid Adom, the Israeli medical corps, has been forced to mobilize 50 ambulances and 10 para-medic motorcycles.

Spokesman Rabbi Joseph Dershowitz stated: "The Zionist made it their goal to replace the eternal Jewish religion with empty nationalism. They discarded the age-old Jewish hope for the redemption of the messiah and replaced it with a political military achievement. They discarded the Jewish reverence for the Holy Land and longing for Jerusalem and the Temple, and replaced it with a secular, democratic country in which sin and immorality are defended as legal rights. It is only natural that this total disrespect for all that is sacred to the Jewish people should culminate in their trampling openly and proudly on the laws of immoral relationships called by the Torah "abominations", acts that even the most assimilated Jews in past generations would never have dreamed of committing."

Coincidentally the "Gay Pride" parade is scheduled to occur during the week of the Torah lesson on the destruction of the ancient city of Sodom. Rabbi Dershowitz continued, "And now, in the week in which we read in the Torah about G-d's destruction of Sodom (Genesis 19), the unthinkable is happening: the modern-day Sodomites are bringing their perversion into the streets of Jerusalem, with the smiling approval of the Israeli Supreme Court, threatening to make the Holy City into the next Sodom." '

True Torah Jews to Protest Gay Pride Parade (http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/news/newsletters/jaz110906.htm)

bobbymac
11-11-2006, 12:32 AM
To get back on track,'should liverpool have it's own gay quarter. It probably already has, and has had for a long time. I've never seen a 'legaslated 'gay quarter'. They seem to grow from the social environment of a particular place. So, as I recall Liverpool's gay place was around the 'Clock' and the Pivvy. Redevelpment may have moved them elsewhere, but it will materialize of it's own volition,.:Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:

Howie
11-11-2006, 12:41 AM
To get back on track,'should liverpool have it's own gay quarter. It probably already has, and has had for a long time. I've never seen a 'legaslated 'gay quarter'. They seem to grow from the social environment of a particular place. So, as I recall Liverpool's gay place was around the 'Clock' and the Pivvy. Redevelpment may have moved them elsewhere, but it will materialize of it's own volition,.:Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:
I think you're right. It's all about exploiting what already exists in order to make money - attracting the so-called 'pink pound'.

DingleBoy
12-20-2006, 04:50 AM
There's so many different sides to this argument. I think the ***** quarter is already alive and well, it just hasn't got that label on it. The thing is most of the bars that get opened up usually flounder and die within a year. The exceptions being the Navy (due to the straight pre-Garlands crowd) and Patricks/Foundation. I think a positive side to putting the stamp on it and pedestrianising (sp?) the area would be it may encourage some actual decent funding and marketing for the gay bars and bring them a bit more above surface. I mean, has anyone noticed that the majority of the bars are LITERALLY underground? It still carries something of a stigma and although it's progressed a LOT in the last few years it's still got a long way to go before it reaches the same stage as Manchester, Canal St etc.

scouserdave
12-20-2006, 12:45 PM
How does one make a Gay Quarter in a city? A simple question, but I'm buggered (no pun intended) if I know the answer.

DingleBoy
12-20-2006, 07:55 PM
How does one make a Gay Quarter in a city? A simple question, but I'm buggered (no pun intended) if I know the answer.

BOO GET OFF!

john
12-20-2006, 11:48 PM
How does one make a Gay Quarter in a city? A simple question, but I'm buggered (no pun intended) if I know the answer.

Sharp intake of breath again :disgust:

A.D.W
12-20-2006, 11:53 PM
Have things come to pass that people are not allowed to ask a simple question? Sharp intake of breath again? Indeed!

Max
12-21-2006, 01:07 AM
How does one make a Gay Quarter in a city? A simple question, but I'm buggered (no pun intended) if I know the answer.

Giving them a section of the city?

Sexual Preference has a culture like racial community's, but like China town should they really get their own area?

john
12-21-2006, 07:57 AM
Have things come to pass that people are not allowed to ask a simple question? Sharp intake of breath again? Indeed!

The question by Dave
How does one make a Gay Quarter in a city? A simple question,

This is the question that we are all asking no probs at all, the sharp intake of breath is for
but I'm buggered (no pun intended) if I know the answer.

A.D.W
12-21-2006, 06:56 PM
The question by Dave
How does one make a Gay Quarter in a city? A simple question,

This is the question that we are all asking no probs at all, the sharp intake of breath is for
but I'm buggered (no pun intended) if I know the answer.

ScouserDave was making a light hearted joke. Do the homosexuals on this forum have no sense of humor?

Max
12-21-2006, 10:27 PM
ScouserDave was making a light hearted joke. Do the homosexuals on this forum have no sense of humor?

Only when their telling the jokes.:unibrow:

john
12-21-2006, 10:45 PM
ScouserDave was making a light hearted joke. Do the homosexuals on this forum have no sense of humor?

How do you know this?
By the way I am not a homosexual, but I do have a sense of humour Opps

DingleBoy
12-23-2006, 10:44 AM
ScouserDave was making a light hearted joke. Do the homosexuals on this forum have no sense of humor?

I reckon I've missed somethin here, who responded badly to the joke? Apart form me saying BOO GET OFF that is, cos it was a sh1t joke?

Shapers
12-23-2006, 07:17 PM
Humour dosen't always come over clear in text so people say.

Abercromby Square
12-25-2006, 03:53 PM
Does Liverpool need a gay quarter? I believe so. Gays in Manchester have been much safer since having their own, more formalised, community. It is a safety in numbers thing. And even if some low, low individuals did have any sadistic ideas about brutalising somebody (because of their sexuality) then they will be in territory where cameras will be on them and other people will see what they're trying to do. In any case, I have met gay men who would be a match for any would be tough guy. So I'm sure the gay community will think "bring them on!".

I'm sure I am not alone in thinking that this thread has been started with the sole intention of producing chilidish puns, and not real debate on this issue.

If there are sadists out there who want to hurt gay people, then this is not a reason not to have a gay community. It is about time Liverpool grew up and started facing up to homophobia and other such prejudices. I certainly wouldn't treat Pete Price as an authority on this issue, or any other issue for that matter.

Shapers
12-25-2006, 07:25 PM
People always have this mentality of 'why the gays get this money' as the same with help for asylum seekers, but people forget the regenration projects in the likes of Kensington for the whole communities and the 1000 projects for the homeless and the local kids, but the majority turn the nose up at these schemes and rather stay addicts or scum. Because a group embraces a project, they get accussed of preferential treatment.

Max
12-25-2006, 08:50 PM
Does Liverpool need a gay quarter? I believe so. Gays in Manchester have been much safer since having their own, more formalised, community. It is a safety in numbers thing. And even if some low, low individuals did have any sadistic ideas about brutalising somebody (because of their sexuality) then they will be in territory where cameras will be on them and other people will see what they're trying to do. In any case, I have met gay men who would be a match for any would be tough guy. So I'm sure the gay community will think "bring them on!".

I'm sure I am not alone in thinking that this thread has been started with the sole intention of producing chilidish puns, and not real debate on this issue.

If there are sadists out there who want to hurt gay people, then this is not a reason not to have a gay community. It is about time Liverpool grew up and started facing up to homophobia and other such prejudices. I certainly wouldn't treat Pete Price as an authority on this issue, or any other issue for that matter.


Then I want my own mother****ing quarter, there not different to anyone except for sexual preference.

Shapers
12-25-2006, 09:09 PM
And what is your ****ing Quarter going to be called? In fact heterosexuals are welcome into the gay areas, usually women, but its a fact of life that there is '***** bashers' out there and securtiy have to be select who they let in.

To stay on topic of the gay Quarter, i can't see it succeeding any bigger than the 'designated' area is at the minute. If the council or planners think that targeting the 'pink pound' is going to benefit the city, then its a business decision rather than a 'preferential to a group'. But i can't see it being like the Gay Village in Manchester. Manchester itself is situated in the central of the north west with access to a lot more towns and cities than Liverpool, and Manchester being a big main city is going to attrack people from small towns, including gays.

victorialush
12-25-2006, 10:29 PM
If the truth be known we already have a small gay quarter... I would say Dale St and surrounding areas... there are a lot of gay bars in the area and as I have been informed by a gay relative... it is a pretty good place to go trolling.

So to the people who think having a gay quarter is favouritism for the people with a different sexual preference to themselves I would ask them to think again, it is already happening and has probably been happening for the past 20 years.

Max
12-25-2006, 11:07 PM
And what is your ****ing Quarter going to be called? In fact heterosexuals are welcome into the gay areas, usually women, but its a fact of life that there is '***** bashers' out there and securtiy have to be select who they let in.

To stay on topic of the gay Quarter, i can't see it succeeding any bigger than the 'designated' area is at the minute. If the council or planners think that targeting the 'pink pound' is going to benefit the city, then its a business decision rather than a 'preferential to a group'. But i can't see it being like the Gay Village in Manchester. Manchester itself is situated in the central of the north west with access to a lot more towns and cities than Liverpool, and Manchester being a big main city is going to attrack people from small towns, including gays.

It's going to be called the Max Power quarter, were no one is separated into a race or culture.:Colorz_Grey_PDT_24:

In fact I know hetros are welcome into gar bars and the other way around.

Whats the point in having this areas if we want to go on about equality and not separating ourselves from other people? We can still have our identities.

Shapers
12-25-2006, 11:21 PM
Its a themed quarter rather than 'just for gays'. As long as heteros respect that the theme of the area is 'gay' then there should be no problem with people mixing. Do gays go down Mathew street or Concert Square demanding it to be less 'straight'? Its called 'Gay Friendly' Max, would you rather have to men kiss in your local pub aggravating homophobic idiots causing fights? Or allow them a designated bar or area were they can be affectionate.

If the Gay Quarter works then its a good idea, more money into the city is only beneficial. But i can't see it being a success in Liverpool.

Max
12-25-2006, 11:29 PM
Its called 'Gay Friendly' Max, would you rather have to men kiss in your local pub aggravating homophobic idiots causing fights? Or allow them a designated bar or area were they can be affectionate.

Whats to stop these people causing fights in the gay themed places then?

I don't care if they kiss or be attention *****s(not all are), but why would people be aggravated by kissing? They'd only be aggravated by attention seeking.

I wouldn't mind watching a scrap, hell yeah I'd take bets, WOOOOOOOOOO!:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Bringing money into the city isn't always benificial, the money made will go into cleaning up the mess caused by litter and if the people you say are aggravated homophobes cause trouble.

Shapers
12-25-2006, 11:41 PM
Whats to stop people attacking gays in these places? Safety in numbers, security staff, people who work there, etc. Would'nt stop them completley but a lot less.

Attention seeking? So gay men have to conform to what homophobes think is 'appropriate' to stop fights? Thats the whole point of giving them there 'own' area, so they don't 'attention seek' as you so elegantly put it and risk a beating.

You would love to see a fight in the street? Joking aside and remain serious, you would'nt.


Am not sure what your trying to say with your last sentence, sounds like your saying that the Gay Area will cause more litter by homophobes.

But sticking with the litter thing, bringing more people will cause more litter regardless of sexual preference.

Blabber
12-25-2006, 11:47 PM
Whats to stop these people causing fights in the gay themed places then?

I don't care if they kiss or be attention *****s(not all are), but why would people be aggravated by kissing? They'd only be aggravated by attention seeking.

I wouldn't mind watching a scrap, hell yeah I'd take bets, WOOOOOOOOOO!:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Bringing money into the city isn't always benificial, the money made will go into cleaning up the mess caused by litter and if the people you say are aggravated homophobes cause trouble.

Weirdo. What if they kiss because they feel like it, with no intention of attracting attention?

Shapers
12-25-2006, 11:53 PM
Weirdo. What if they kiss because they feel like it, with no intention of attracting attention?

I must attention seek when i kiss my girlfriend in a club Blabber :)

Max
12-25-2006, 11:59 PM
Whats to stop people attacking gays in these places? Safety in numbers, security staff, people who work there, etc. Would'nt stop them completley but a lot less.

Attention seeking? So gay men have to conform to what homophobes think is 'appropriate' to stop fights? Thats the whole point of giving them there 'own' area, so they don't 'attention seek' as you so elegantly put it and risk a beating.

You would love to see a fight in the street? Joking aside and remain serious, you would'nt.


Am not sure what your trying to say with your last sentence, sounds like your saying that the Gay Area will cause more litter by homophobes.

But sticking with the litter thing, bringing more people will cause more litter regardless of sexual preference.

Security and Safety may help minimise but someone will still get injured I agree.

You get the odd attention seeking gay fella though, but their a small minority like homophobes.

Why can;t we just have normal areas? They can do all the kissing anywhere just like straight couples or in their own homes or bars or touching. Plus special areas to me can demean equality that people work hard for.


As for the fighting bit not really lol.

Max
12-26-2006, 12:00 AM
Weirdo. What if they kiss because they feel like it, with no intention of attracting attention?
I don't call Shapers a weirdo for his opinion.:Colorz_Grey_PDT_24:

When I see a straight couple kiss in public all smoochy like I think get a room.

Shapers
12-27-2006, 03:53 AM
In this area, the gays can kiss and fondle til there hearts consent. EVeryone else can go somewhere else or watch.

Shapers
12-27-2006, 04:56 AM
I don't call Shapers a weirdo for his opinion.:Colorz_Grey_PDT_24:

When I see a straight couple kiss in public all smoochy like I think get a room.

Is that jealousy?

Max
12-28-2006, 11:00 PM
**** no.

Max
12-28-2006, 11:02 PM
In this area, the gays can kiss and fondle til there hearts consent. EVeryone else can go somewhere else or watch.

That would be discrimination to not allow straight couple kiss in that area then.

Shapers
12-29-2006, 08:10 PM
That would be discrimination to not allow straight couple kiss in that area then.

Who said straight couples can't kiss in that area?

Max
12-30-2006, 06:33 AM
You said straight couples can go somewhere else and watch.

Shapers
12-30-2006, 07:57 AM
Said they can watch OR go elsewhere Max. Never said thay can't kiss themselves. :Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:

In fact if someone is kissing, people can just look the other way. What i do when i see loved up couples at bus stops.

Max
12-30-2006, 10:38 PM
:Colorz_Grey_PDT_24: :Colorz_Grey_PDT_24: :Colorz_Grey_PDT_24:

In this area, the gays can kiss and fondle til there hearts consent. EVeryone else can go somewhere else or watch.

Shapers
12-31-2006, 08:22 PM
ok add 'look away' to that list then Max :rolleyes:

Max
12-31-2006, 11:27 PM
:Colorz_Grey_PDT_24:

Shapers
12-31-2006, 11:33 PM
Yes

Max
12-31-2006, 11:41 PM
No.

Shapers
12-31-2006, 11:46 PM
Ok Max.

Batman
01-01-2007, 10:22 PM
I myself would prefer to look away but if don't want to look away or go somewhere else, stand there and watch, a gay quarter is not just for gay people it has a gay theme , it's safe place were they can go around in numbers and be safe and not have to worry about being attacked by thug's. I myself would only go there to watch the females.

victorialush
01-01-2007, 10:51 PM
I myself would prefer to look away but if don't want to look away or go somewhere else, stand there and watch, a gay quarter is not just for gay people it has a gay theme , it's safe place were they can go around in numbers and be safe and not have to worry about being attacked by thug's. I myself would only go there to watch the females.

Exactly, it is a place to go if you are gay or gay-friendly...

If you are intolerant to this or homophobic, who's fault is that?! Stay away from the place.
It is like asking for a club to be straight because you can't handle the drag queens.

I am all for having a gay quarter in Liverpool.

Howie
07-02-2007, 11:44 PM
May I suggest that any gay quarter is sited on high land to mitigate against the risk of drowning. Senior Church of England bishops have suggested that the recent floods are a judgement on society's moral decadence. The Bishop of Carlisle stated that the introduction of pro-gay legislation provoked God to act by sending the storms. :rolleyes:

chippie
07-03-2007, 12:12 AM
I hope those floods don,t drench those poor men in skirts too much.

john
07-03-2007, 07:53 AM
I hope those floods don,t drench those poor men in skirts too much.

What men in skirts, the scottish? :shock:

For any scots apoligises I know they are not skirts.

john
07-03-2007, 07:55 AM
May I suggest that any gay quarter is sited on high land to mitigate against the risk of drowning. Senior Church of England bishops have suggested that the recent floods are a judgement on society's moral decadence. The Bishop of Carlisle stated that the introduction of pro-gay legislation provoked God to act by sending the storms. :rolleyes:

Very interesting as I put a thread on Yo on Sunday on this theme which was removed. :PDT11

chippie
07-03-2007, 09:41 AM
no John. Those poor church people men, my heart bleeds for them. They could get sucked under those awful currents in those long skirts and drown.:rolleyes:

PhilipG
07-03-2007, 10:04 AM
Religion is to blame for a lot of problems in the world.

And this is from a former choirboy who had to go to church three times every Sunday! :eek:

lottie
07-03-2007, 11:14 AM
Aye john, should hope you know they're NOT skirts :p. Anyway, i know a some gay people and think that they should just mix with others, they have a different sexual orientation, thats all. I think making an issue of a separate area causes problems. People should learn to live and let live. I know my view is probably unworkable, but it's my view.


Quote from John

'What men in skirts, the scottish?
For any scots apoligises I know they are not skirts.'

Max
07-03-2007, 04:49 PM
Religion is to blame for a lot of problems in the world.

Not many are evolved enough to think for themselves beyond religion.

Shapers
07-03-2007, 06:03 PM
Do you think the Bishop could have a link to the mad Phelps family in America?

chippie
07-03-2007, 07:16 PM
Not many are evolved enough to think for themselves beyond religion.

Max my friend, I think that is a very inteligent quote mate. Well done

Howie
11-03-2007, 11:40 PM
Street closure go-ahead boost for gay ‘village’
Nov 3 2007
by David Bartlett, Liverpool Daily Post

THE creation of a formal gay village in Liverpool has moved a step closer after the council agreed to effectively pedestrianise a street in the city’s so-called Pink Triangle.

Last night, the gay community welcomed the move to close Eberle Street after 6pm to create a pedestrian-friendly area by use of bollards to restrict traffic flow.

The street has a number of bars and clubs including the famous Garlands club, but because it is so narrow vehicles using it presented a danger to revellers.

Liberal councillor Steve Radford, co-chairman of the Gay Business Association, said it was now hoped that similar measures could be introduced in Stanley Street and Cumberland Street, which also have a number of gay venues.

“We are delighted the council is going to do this as we have been campaigning for it for years,” said Cllr Radford.

“We already have a gay district, but it’s more about making it safer and a more attractive environment.”

Cllr Peter Millea, executive member for corporate resources, proposed the closure of Eberle Street at a traffic and highways committee this week.

The measure will require a formal order before the closure can be implemented.

The meeting also agreed to reverse the traffic flow in Stanley Street and Cumberland Street as part of the City Centre Movement Strategy to improve traffic flow to the new Liverpool One retail development.

Cllr Radford said that now moves were afoot to deal with Eberle Street, it should be easier to push through partial pedestrianisation of the other two streets in the Pink Triangle.

Last night, the council said consultation is due to start soon on a plan to close Stanley Street and Cumberland Street after 6pm as part of the gay quarter initiative.

Officials said the reversal of traffic on these roads was required so that traffic flow can be changed along North John Street to create better bus access to Liverpool One.

But Cllr Nick Small, opposition spokesman on regeneration, said: “I think reversing traffic in Stanley Street and Cumberland Street is unnecessary and waste of taxpayers money.”

He said he would have rather seen the flow of traffic reversed on Crosshall Street.

“It may well be now that as a result of the consultation another traffic regulation order is needed because of the gay quarter initiative.”

Source: Liverpool Daily Post (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/11/03/street-closure-go-ahead-boost-for-gay-village-64375-20054271/)