The best prime minister we've had?

[wsteve55]

Any suggestions for the best P.M. we've had!?!

[pablo42]

Any suggestions for the best P.M. we've had!?!

I think Kevin done a post on this.

Maggie.

[wsteve55]

Probably,just thought something positive would be a change! I can't make my mind up yet,though Mags is certainly in there!

[pablo42]

Probably,just thought something positive would be a change! I can't make my mind up yet,though Mags is certainly in there!

It's only cos I knew her. Never much liked her politics. But what a bird.

[Waterways]

Any suggestions for the best P.M. we've had!?!

Tony Blair.

[kevin]

Tony Blair.

Sycophantic pseudo American.

[Bernie]

Sycophantic pseudo American.

Geez Kevin don't be giving him compliments like that.:unibrow:

[Birdy]

Tony Blair.

[kevin]

Geez Kevin don't be giving him compliments like that.:unibrow:

Not knocking Americans - just Blair and the way he acted like he was the US vice-president, rather than the British premier.

[captain kong]

T. Bliar should have been charged with High Treason then done away with in public so we know the deed has been done.

[pablo42]

T. Bliar should have been charged with High Treason then done away with in public so we know the deed has been done.

Ha, don't hold back Captain.

[dazza]

Spencer Perceval.

I don't know whether he was any good? Probably not, as he was the only British PM to be assassinated. John Bellingham was his assasin, he lived and worked in Liverpool for a spell [Duke Street, I think]

[pablo42]

Spencer Perceval.

I don't know whether he was any good? Probably not, as he was the only British PM to be assassinated. John Bellingham was his assasin, he lived and worked in Liverpool for a spell [Duke Street, I think]

So he's the best cos he was shot??

[dazza]

So he's the best cos he was shot??

The only Prime Minister to deserve his comeuppance.....let's start with the MP expense free-loaders next?

[pablo42]

The only Prime Minister to deserve his comeuppance.....let's start with the MP expense free-loaders next?

You're saying shoot 'em??

[dazza]

You're saying shoot 'em??

maybe a bit harsh...perhaps we just put them in jail instead???

[pablo42]

maybe a bit harsh...perhaps we just put them in jail instead???

Ha, they deserve that.

Some people would say they were just following the rules though.

[GNASHER]

let's start with the MP expense free-loaders next?

Not defending them but with your hand on your wallet who hasn't done a bit of fiddling,cash in hand,expenses etc ?

[Waterways]

T. Bliar should have been charged with High Treason

Kong, what treason would this be?

[pablo42]

Kong, what treason would this be?

Ha, knew that was coming....

[A.D.W]

Not defending them but with your hand on your wallet who hasn't done a bit of fiddling,cash in hand,expenses etc ?

Me.

[dazza]

Not defending them but with your hand on your wallet who hasn't done a bit of fiddling,cash in hand,expenses etc ?

I guess other countries must laugh at us? I travelled with work to Russia, about 2 years ago, and was shocked at the level of corruption there.

[pablo42]

I guess other countries must laugh at us? I travelled with work to Russia, about 2 years ago, and was shocked at the level of corruption there.

Ha, you wanna see Africa.

[dazza]

Ha, you wanna see Africa.

I don't doubt it.

No wonder our referee's are in demand all around the world?

[captain kong]

Blair-for-hire bags a new job (at Louis Vuitton, of course)

It was a friendship that Tony Blair carefully cultivated during his years in power.
Now the former Prime Minister's relationship with France's richest man Bernard Arnault will finally generate financial results.
Mr Blair, it has been revealed, is set to take on a highly-paid advisory role at Mr Arnault's luxury goods company Louis Vuitton Moet Hennessy (LVMH).
He is said to be in the final stages of negotiating a six figure pay package at the company, which owns Moet & Chandon champagne among other luxury brands.
But critics point out that by taking the job Mr Blair, 56, may be accused of profiting personally from actions he took while he was Prime Minister.
They also claim that he undermines the dignity of the Prime Ministerial role by appearing to leap at any and every money-making opportunity on offer.
Since leaving power in June 2007, Mr Blair has developed a bewildering array of highly-lucrative part-time jobs. He has also built up a mammoth property empire to match.
As well as the £5million he has reportedly been offered to write his memoirs, he is paid a £2.5million salary by the U.S. investment bank JP Morgan and a further £2million as an adviser with the finance firm Zurich.
He also charges tens of thousands of pounds to give one speech and even charges to have his photograph taken with members of the public.

A real good Socialist is our Tony. How many Council tennants did he help up the ladder of success in his Sedgefield Constituancy???

[Max]

Any suggestions for the best P.M. we've had!?!

Clement Attlee!:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/attlee_clement.shtml

Too many pure infidels voted Churchill back though afterwards. Don't care if he was a war hero, even there he did some bad carpet bombing, outside of that he was one of them fancy Tories who cared too much about imperialism. Partly his fault why we have problems with Iran too!

[wsteve55]

I dont know....some people?? This thread was supposed to be your suggestions for theBEST prime minister we've had,not a Blair knocking session! (Interesting choice Max :nod:)

[pablo42]

I dont know....some people?? This thread was supposed to be your suggestions for theBEST prime minister we've had,not a Blair knocking session!

I still say Maggie.

[captain kong]

I will say Maggie, she stood up for Britain against the europeans.

[Max]

I dont know....some people?? This thread was supposed to be your suggestions for theBEST prime minister we've had,not a Blair knocking session! (Interesting choice Max :nod:)

Attlee got the British people what they deserved, especially after going through a horrible war. Churchill was more interested in his ego.

Don't know what Wilson and others in his cabinet found wrong with small prescription charges though, least abusers can be tracked if they have to pay an stuff. Liked Wilson's stuff like helping to found the Open Uni and taxing the rich a little more though, 90% is way too high though.

Old Labor pm's seemed to stick to what they said more than current pm's.

Oh yeah helped to get rid of our nonsensical empire too. I still hear and read alot of imperialist nonsense like people care more about the power and money of a country over it's well .

[Max]

I will say Maggie, she stood up for Britain against the europeans.

You dont like the Eu? It may have it's problems but better to stay in it to bring countries closer to together, all this independence stuff separates and regresses the human race.

We probably need a better say in it though i guess. Denmark and Sweden do fine in the EU.

[Waterways]

I will say Maggie, she stood up for Britain against the europeans.

I find that statement amazing. She ruined the country, industry was devastated, she squandered our biggest legacy, North Sea oil and gas, millions unemployed. Provincial cities were basket cases and resembled A Clockwork Orange. But she stood up Europeans so all is all right. Wow!!! What logic!! Kong should be PM! :)

[Waterways]

Attlee got the British people what they deserved, especially after going through a horrible war. Churchill was more interested in his ego.


The only war Churchill ever lost was the war against the British Land owners in 1909 - the House of Lords. If he had won we would not have had land and house instigated boom and bust. Rising land values and speculation fuelled all recessions and depressions. The Credit Crunch would not have happened, the 1929 crash would not have happened. WW2 would not have happened. He lost the biggest war, a war that would have had a greater impact on the world.

Tax Scam by Fred Harrison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZkfmY1PMng)

Fred Harrison identifying the root problem of the Credit Crunch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku2yxP9ceRI)

[wayne2440]

i think it's fair to say that we had a few good years under tony blair. he went stale towards the end and gordon brown should never have been prime minister. love her or loathe her lady thatcher was probably the best p.m we have had in my lifetime. one thing is for sure the co-allition comedy duo of cameron and clegg will go down in history of probably the worst leaders ever.

[burkhilly]

I definately wouldn't agree that Thatcher was a great PM. However, your comment on Cameron and Clegg is spot on.

[GeorgePorgie]

Churchill was more interested in his ego.


Could have sworn Neville Chamberlin was in power at the time of the Nazi invasion of Poland ie he led Bitain into the warfor the first eight months and then resigned in 1940 leaving Churchill to carry the can.

[Spike]

Churchill

Without a doubt. Whatever you think of him he led the country through that awful war and helped defeat the evil that was Hitler. Life would be so different if we had lost.

Plus the others are all nobs.

[burkhilly]

Churchill

Without a doubt. Whatever you think of him he led the country through that awful war and helped defeat the evil that was Hitler. Life would be so different if we had lost.

Plus the others are all nobs.


:handclap:

[GeorgePorgie]

Churchill

Without a doubt.

Exactly,Churchill just had the misfortune to officially declare it to the nation that we were at war with Germany,Chamberlin started the war.

[Max]

Outside of WW2, what has Churchill done to be considered the best? It was partly his fault we have bad relations with the middle east and our own country didn't really get anything progressive from him either. His ego made him want to stay in politics too long as well.

Thatcher is waaaaay to hated to be considered great too unless you are rich. Caused mass employment, sold off most our national owned things etc...

[Spike]

Outside of WW2, what has Churchill done to be considered the best? It was partly his fault we have bad relations with the middle east and our own country didn't really get anything progressive from him either. His ego made him want to stay in politics too long as well.

Thatcher is waaaaay to hated to be considered great too unless you are rich. Caused mass employment, sold off most our national owned things etc...

Its what he did in WW2 Max

[GeorgePorgie]

....And if Clement Attlee could have seen the forseeable future of todays scroungers and abusive use of the Welfare state...do you reckon he would have changed his mind on implementing it?

[Max]

....And if Clement Attlee could have seen the forseeable future of todays scroungers and abusive use of the Welfare state...do you reckon he would have changed his mind on implementing it?

Living in London slums was shaped his views on Welfare an such. Don't know wether he would of changed his mind. He did add paying for prescriptions I think. Plus, it was the liberials who first started some form of welfare I think.

Abuse happens in pretty much everything and it shouldn't be a detterant against Welfare. The rich paying more to a solictor than paying in tax is a problem too but the media don't want to get them mad lol.

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Its what he did in WW2 Max

Outside of WW2 though, he had a bad war record.

[John Doh]

....And if Clement Attlee could have seen the forseeable future of todays scroungers and abusive use of the Welfare state...do you reckon he would have changed his mind on implementing it?

I am quite sure he wouldn't change his mind: he wasn't stupid and would have realised there would be some abuse.

He would also have available to him other evidence of the relative merits of public v. private funding of welfare provision. I guess he would have been impressed by the French Health Service; and he would have known NOT to move closer to the American model, unlike our current masters...

My vote's with Clement... Just a pity I can't vote for John Smith - the best PM we never had!

[Diane Louise]

I think Kevin done a post on this.

Maggie.

I have to agree with you, Maggie because she stood her ground with Arthur Scargill.

[John Doh]

And, having won that little battle, went on to close down our mining industry and this then strengthened her in her resolve to destroy the rest of our manufacturing base. H'mmm...... that's greatness for you, but only in the sense of the great dictator!

[Oudeis]

I have to agree with you, Maggie because she stood her ground with Arthur Scargill.

What with the dockers already a thing of the past it was the turn of the miners?

As I recall she stood her ground with those people who collected 'sea-coal' too. "Let the heat cake?"

[Diane Louise]

What with the dockers already a thing of the past it was the turn of the miners?

As I recall she stood her ground with those people who collected 'sea-coal' too. "Let the heat cake?"

There were far too manys strike so she sorted them out as well. :handclap:

I look forward to the next female primeminster!

[Rhoobarb]

Chalk me up a vote for Atlee and add me to the list of people who consider John Smith the greatest Prime Minister we never had.

[essexscouse]

Begrudgingly i t has to be Maggie she at least faced the challenges..........What would she do today with the anarchist Crow and the other clown trying to screw BA

[wsteve55]

John Smith.....wonder if he would have been so well thought of,after 5 years in power?

[anonymouse]

I can't stand this alternative humour!

:lol:

[BlueJeans]

Begrudgingly i t has to be Maggie she at least faced the challenges..........What would she do today with the anarchist Crow and the other clown trying to screw BA

Thatcher was never the same once that house fell on her sister.

[Oudeis]

Thatcher was never the same once that house fell on her sister.

I used to think of another place not quite so far away...

"Where it is always covered in snow, but is never Christmas."