Lost Liverpool Buildings Top 5

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...or 5 bulidings I wish we still had and

without which the city is a lesser place...

1. Overhead Railway.
Structures like these become of great cities, and our one was indeed part of that

vision. An awful loss not to still have it, and with the developments in the pipelines it would have become ever more relevant and ever more iconic. If I

become a billionaire I will rebuild it! As was!!

2. Customs House.
Where that awful Halifax is on the Strand. Again, it was recoverable save for

the historic age-old Liverpool lurgy of self-interested, bent petit-politicos.

3. The Three Ugly Sisters.
Structures like these are the mark of

great cities. I thought they were part of what our city, what our docks were about. Only lack of vision or soul allowed them to blitzed. If they were still

there the redevelopement uses for them would be pretty exciting.

4. The Old St.Johns buildings.
Seen them in pictures. They looked wonderful.

Shame we lost that pile.

5. Gettin rid of the tram network.
Understandable at the time but really a disaster. Ooops!

Waterways, have

you got any more?

[PhilipG]

...or 5 bulidings I wish we still had and without which the city is a lesser

place...


Waterways, have you got any more?


Can only Waterways answer?

[Waterways]

...or 5 bulidings I wish we still had and without which the city is a lesser place...

1. Overhead Railway.
Structures like

these become of great cities, and our one was indeed part of that vision. An awful loss not to still have it, and with the developments in the pipelines it

would have become ever more relevant and ever more iconic. If I become a billionaire I will rebuild it! As was!!


A very sad loss.



2. Customs House.
Where that awful Halifax is on the Strand. Again, it was recoverable save for the historic age-old Liverpool

lurgy of self-interested, bent petit-politicos.


The building was repairable. It was only burnt out, not bombed. London wanted the Customs in the south, so Liverpool was raped again.



3. The Three Ugly Sisters.
Structures like these are the mark of great cities. I thought they were part of what our city, what our docks were about. Only lack of vision or soul allowed them to blitzed. If they were still there the redevelopement uses for them would be pretty exciting.


I'm glad they went. I hated them. The power station was built on Clarence Dock, which still can be excavated.



4. The Old St.Johns buildings.
Seen them in pictures. They looked wonderful. Shame we lost that pile.

5. Gettin rid of the tram network. Understandable at the time but really a disaster. Ooops!


Most of the lines are still there.

- The round theatre from the 1700s In Williamson Square (Union Cold Storage used it).

- The Dukes Dock Brindley warehouses.

- All the in-filled Docks in Liverpool and the Wirral.

- The terraced row opposite Lime St station (the Guiness clock neon signs)

- Sailors Home

- The warehouses and buildings along the Strand near James St.

etc.

[snappel]

I don't think the LOR or tram network really constitute 'buildings', but you've listed five good entities

nonetheless.

Not sure about the power station though - just look at the issues surrounding Battersea, it's a nightmare at the moment. Word on the

street is that the original concrete chimneys are getting replaced with fibreglass replicas... Still, if they'd just kept the chimneys of the Clarence Dock

station that would've remained a distinctive landmark.

It would be nice to see more of the dockside warehouses/goods yards etc still around, but you

can't keep everything, and thankfully we still have Albert and Stanley Docks as good examples of these kinds of sites.

[ChrisGeorge]

A very sad loss.



The

building was repairable. It was onky burnt out, not bombed. London wante the Customs in the south, so Liverpool was raped again.


3. The

Three Ugly Sisters.
Structures like these are the mark of great cities. I thought they were part of what our city, what our docks were about. Only lack of

vision or soul allowed them to blitzed. If they were still there the redevelopement uses for them would be pretty exciting.
[/QUOTE]

I'm glad they

went. I hated them. The power station was built on Clarence Dock, which still can be excavated.



Most of the lines are still there.

-

The round theatre from the 1700s In Williamson Square (Union Cold Storage used it).

- The Dukes Dock Brindley warehouses.

- All the in-filled

Docks in Liverpool and the Wirral.

- The terraced row opposite Lime St station (the Guiness clock neon signs)

- Sailors Home

- The

warehouses and buildings along the Strand near James St.

etc.[/QUOTE]

The Old Hutte at Halewood - a medieval manorhouse of the Ireland family

swept away when the Ford Factory was built

Jericho Farm in Otterspool

[shytalk]

Another historic

building that went was the David Lewis building. With modernisation what a fantastic hotel it could have been.

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Can only Waterways answer?

Oh aye. Sorry about that, just that I've been quite enjoying

Wat's postings for a while now. Always seem to learn stuff from our past I never knew.

Got a bit of an obssession with the docks, as were, and the

proper industrial scale buildings and environments which remain there.

Does anyone have a ready pictorial archive of these former buildings? It would

be nice to compile a pictorial top 50 or something like that.

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Another historic building that went was the David Lewis building. With modernisation what a

fantastic hotel it could have been.

Do you have a pic?

[PhilipG]

Do you have a pic?

Yes.

Too many cinemas,

churches and schools have gone.
Apart from the buildings already mentioned, here are a few more that shouldn't have gone.
The original frontage of the

Cotton Exchange in Old Hall Street.
Helliwell's Buildings in Castle Street.
Any of the Tram Depots.
Most of the terraced houses were needlessly

demolished (North Liverpool has managed to keep a lot).
The Children's Hospital in Myrtle Street.
The Labour Exchange in Leece Street.
The Owen

Owen Warehouse in St Anne Street (but that was destroyed by fire).

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- The round theatre from the

1700s In Williamson Square (Union Cold Storage used it).

- The Dukes Dock Brindley warehouses.

- All the in-filled Docks in Liverpool and the

Wirral.

- The terraced row opposite Lime St station (the Guiness clock neon signs)

- Sailors Home

- The warehouses and buildings along

the Strand near James St.

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I'd love to see to pics of this stuff. I have seen the neon Guiness block and you're

absolutely right, that was a proper city vista.

[snappel]

Does anyone have a ready pictorial archive of these former buildings? It would be nice to compile a pictorial top 50 or something like

that.I'm doing my best to photograph as many of the remaining ones as possible (Stanley Dock, Royal Liverpool Infirmary, Heap Rice Mill, etc) before

they change and lose their originality (see my website link below), but hopefully the structures will be preserved.

I'm finding it quite hard to find

'period' photos of a lot of places on the web - I think I should really pay a visit to the library and see what I can find there. Still, lots of old photos

are kicking about, such as on the toxteth.net (http://www.toxteth.net) website.

[MissInformed]

......oh, and Liverpool Castle/Tower guys!!:)

[Kev]

I'm loving this thread, the OHR was a gem.

[PhilipG]

Does

anyone have a ready pictorial archive of these former buildings? It would be nice to compile a pictorial top 50 or something like that.

I

don't know about a "ready pictorial archive", but I've got a lot of photos of Liverpool.
They all need scanning.
But I'd like to see what other

people have got as well.
Considering that there are a lot of photographers in this group, it would be good to see their photos of demolished buildings.

[Kev]

I don't know about

a "ready pictorial archive", but I've got a lot of photos of Liverpool.
They all need scanning.
But I'd like to see what other people have got as

well.
Considering that there are a lot of photographers in this group, it would be good to see their photos of demolished buildings.

Very soon I

shall have a couple of CDs with these images on free from copyright I believe. Like the ones I've been posting recently, only many many more. Watch this

space.

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I

don't know about a "ready pictorial archive", but I've got a lot of photos of Liverpool.
They all need scanning.
But I'd like to see what other

people have got as well.
Considering that there are a lot of photographers in this group, it would be good to see their photos of demolished

buildings.

Where was that Lewis Hostel DG?

I suppose the motivation for threads like this isn't just wishing we these incredible

buildings back with us, (and to be honest I really do wish we had some of them) it's also vital if we as a city come to demand the same high-level

production values from the developers in today's and tomorrow's built environment, as those best-practice examples that went before..

Also, I'm a

huge fan of great modern architecture but I also wish we could talk seriously about actually rebuilding buildings occaisionally when to do so brings back

that which was lost. Like identity. Like history. Like just... wonderful buildings.

I literally would replace-pretty much exactly-the OHR, for

instance.

[Motorhemp]

I always liked the run down church on the corner of

Catherine and Canning streets but its knocked down and flats built there now. Anyone got a photo of that?

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"I always liked the run down church on the corner of Catherine and

Canning streets but its knocked down and flats built there now. Anyone got a photo of that?"


.....haven't but the people to blame for that are

the council and the 'developers' local slumlords Lacy Roofing for that heap of kaka they've bequethed the city with. Slap bang in the middle of the

Georgian quarter too. Thanks lads.

[Motorhemp]

I know there's got to be a balance between new and old and that

nothing lasts forever etc. but that block of flats is so characterless and sticks out like a sore thumb around that area...

[PhilipG]

I always liked the run down church on the corner of Catherine and Canning streets but its knocked

down and flats built there now. Anyone got a photo of that?

October 1986.
Not one of my best pics, but better than nothing!

[Motorhemp]

Cheers - when was that taken? I

remember the building getting more and more delapidated and then a fire did the damage in your shot but when was it?

[PhilipG]

Cheers - when was that taken? I remember the

building getting more and more delapidated and then a fire did the damage in your shot but when was it?

The photo was taken in October 1986,

not long after the fire.
Some gardens in Canning Street have tiles and carved stonework from the church (which was built between 1840 & 1856).
It was

demolished in 1997.

[Motorhemp]

20 years ago - I can hardly believe it!

I was at Hope St. college (City/Central it kept changing names) doing a City and Guilds Photography then - I may have some shots of it stored away in my

loft.

Thanks for the info and photo.

[twiz]

The Sir Edwin Lutyens 'Liverpool Cathedral', it was never built so I'm not sure if it counts, but it was planned to be the biggest cathedral

on the planet with a height of 158m!

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/garybaldy/model-1.jpg

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Looks really Moscova to me...

[Waterways]

The Sir Edwin Lutyens 'Liverpool

Cathedral', it was never built so I'm not sure if it counts, but it was planned to be the biggest cathedral on the planet with a height of

158m!


The crypt was built. WW2 got in the way.

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I was a choirboy for

the cathedral and we'd sing a weekly gig in that crypt.

Fridays I think it was..

[PhilipG]

Where was that Lewis Hostel

DG?



Great George Street, corner of Nile Street, near Upper Parliament Street.

[lindylou]

I can just about remember the David

Lewis. I have a vague memory of going in there when I was about 13. I seem to recall that there was a cafe and we went in there for a drink and a snack.


Is that right or am I dreaming it ? Was there a restaurant in there ?

Any idea when and why it was demolished ? Was the building in disrepair ?

[ChrisGeorge]

I can just about remember the David Lewis. I have a vague memory of going in there when I was about 13. I seem to recall

that there was a cafe and we went in there for a drink and a snack.
Is that right or am I dreaming it ? Was there a restaurant in there ?

Any

idea when and why it was demolished ? Was the building in disrepair ?

I can remember being taken to see a Shakespeare play there on a school

outing while I was attending the Morrison Secondary Modern in Rose Lane. this would have been circa 1962-1963. I don't recall there being a restaurant in

the building although there might have been and I just didn't see it.

Chris

[shytalk]

There was a restaurant there, it was in

the basement and was huge, I used to go for breakfast after nights out on the town. I loved it because it was the only place that still served my favourite,

porridge.:037:

[MissInformed]

wow,

great pic :)
you guys are fantastic with your research, I applaud you...

[PhilipG]

The theatre was erected as part of the David Lewis building in 1906 and it was intended

primarily as a music hall for men using the David Lewis Hostel and Club. The architect of the building was J. Francis Doyle. (David Lewis was the founder

of Lewis's stores, and a great philanthropist). It was first licensed (as a music hall) from January 1907, but, as it was a large and quite elaborate

structure, it was felt it would be bad economy to limit its use to just a music hall, so arrangements were made with local amateur dramatic societies to

stage their productions there. The first theatrical licence was issued in October, 1910.
Tuesday night shows were introduced and people from the local

neighbourhood were charged much lower prices than they would pay elsewhere. There were concerts on Sunday evenings - "an hour and a half's good music for

2d". Films were shown as well, the first cinema licence was issued in January 1914. (The management of the soon to be opened St. James' Picturedrome

objected, to no avail). A scheme was also developed for the showing of films to school children. In the 1920s, a licence for boxing was obtained, and in

the 1930s, billiards was introduced.
The theatre could accommodate about 1000 people. In 1936, two sound film projectors were installed. During

the war it was described as the David Lewis Garrison Theatre. In 1960, the floor was levelled and a new stacking system of 296 seats was used. Dancing was

introduced but film shows and theatrical productions continued to be staged. The 470 seats in the balcony remained unaltered.
The David Lewis

Theatre ceased being "a place of public resort" when the certificates expired on 30 November 1977. Demolition of the complex was completed in October,

1980.
The site has been redeveloped.

[Kev]

Rotunda Theatre, Scotty Rd.

[Kev]

Pier Head Baths:

[Waterways]

Rotunda Theatre, Scotty Rd.

That was only demolished in the 1960s. There are lots of photos about. I recall

Cilla Black and Bud Flannagan were on a chat show and Bud said that he played on the Rotunda, which made Cilla screech "I lived over the road".

[Waterways]

The theatre was

erected as part of the David Lewis building in 1906 and it was intended primarily as a music hall for men using the David Lewis Hostel and Club.



Great Building. Ended up a Doss House.

[Waterways]

I can just about remember the David Lewis. I have a vague memory of going in there when I was about

13. I seem to recall that there was a cafe and we went in there for a drink and a snack.
Is that right or am I dreaming it ? Was there a restaurant in

there ?


There was a cafe in the sub basement.



Any idea when and why it was demolished ? Was the building in disrepair

?

It was probably the strongest building in the world.

[lindylou]

What a shame it was demolished.

thanks evryone for info. :)

[scouserdave]

Slightly OT.
I was fascinated reading about the David Lewis building and done a google. I found this cracking

website.
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=41378

[sweetpatooti]

We used to call it the Davie Loo - used to sit on the steps after walking part way home from town. The Shanghai club (the shangy) was just up the street round the back of it - but that's another story!

[Waterways]

The David Lewis is on the right. A superb building. I doubt it would be demolished today.

http://web.archive.org/web/20071230021029/http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverpool/general/images/great%20george%20place%201910.jpg

Below: 1976 when it was still used.
http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverpool/outside/images/david%20lewis%20hostel.jpg

Side view down Nile St 1966.
http://web.archive.org/web/20071229092523/http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverpool/general/images/nile%20street%201965.jpg

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Waterways, have you got any more images of the triangular Place where the Guiness ad was? Was it St. Johns/ St.Georges Place? Whatever, that looked like a handsomely laid out space, car-park or no car-park. Wish that was still there.

[PhilipG]

The David Lewis is on the right. A superb building. I doubt it would be demolished today.

http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverpool/general/images/great%20george%20place%201910.jpg

Below: 1976 when it was still used.
http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverpool/outside/images/david%20lewis%20hostel.jpg

Side view down Nile St 1966.
http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverpool/general/images/nile%20street%201965.jpg


It's depressing when you realise that out of those three photos only the cathedral and the bank remain.
Everything else has gone.
Love the colour one.

[lindylou]

Waterways. Fantastic pictures ! I only had a vague memory of the place so it's great to be able to see the pics. :)

[Kev]

Jees, wasn't Liverpool beautiful? :disgust:

[Waterways]

The David Lewis is on the right. A superb building. I doubt it would be demolished today.

http://web.archive.org/web/20071230021029/http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverpool/general/images/great%20george%20place%201910.jpg


Just further up Gt George St passed the Davie Loo was Henry Willis the Organ makers. They built the largest organ in the world in the cathedral - they just had to carry it over in bits. A scruffy looking green building with peeling paint.



Side view down Nile St 1965.
http://web.archive.org/web/20071229092523/http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverpool/general/images/nile%20street%201965.jpg


My cousins lived in Rathbone St, in a basement, the street off to the right. I was the cleanest house in the world - literally. Rathbone was prominent in the anti slave trade movement.

[nancy o.]

Slightly OT, but has anyone got a copy of Seaport: Architecture and Townscape in Liverpool by Quentin Hughes? It was published in 1964 and has many photos of buildings that are probably gone now. I've finally tracked down a copy of this through Abebooks online, I've wanted this book for a long time (I used to check it out from the library fairly often, but it's no longer there). Just fantastic photographs, really worth seeking out.

[shytalk]

nancy o

http://www.liverpoolarchitecture.com/tours/flash/intro.swf

[PhilipG]

Slightly OT, but has anyone got a copy of Seaport: Architecture and Townscape in Liverpool by Quentin Hughes? It was published in 1964 and has many photos of buildings that are probably gone now. I've finally tracked down a copy of this through Abebooks online, I've wanted this book for a long time (I used to check it out from the library fairly often, but it's no longer there). Just fantastic photographs, really worth seeking out.

Yes, I've got a copy, but not for sale, unfortunately.
It was reprinted in 1993 (by The Bluecoat Press) with an up-to-date postcript, so it should still be available.
Beautiful B & W photography.

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what was that great old pile down from the Post Office at the bottom of Hardman St (opposite St.Lukes)? It had a sort of red brick, unusual concave frontage. Got razed in about 1990?

Was a bit shocked by that decision. Any idea why it had to go?

[Kev]

http://www.yoliverpool.com/images/dockhouse/c%20house.jpg

I've posted my thoughts on the Custom Building plus the Old Dock here (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2723). :disgust::rolleyes::PDT_Xtremez_12: Shame.

[PhilipG]

what was that great old pile down from the Post Office at the bottom of Hardman St (opposite St.Lukes)? It had a sort of red brick, unusual concave frontage. Got razed in about 1990?

Was a bit shocked by that decision. Any idea why it had to go?

It was the Labour Exchange.
It had been built in 1904 as a block of shops and offices.
Very early on it was a car showroom called Argyll's.
At one stage there was talk of a new road in that area which was why there was some demolition round the corner in Renshaw Street.
It was a good Edwardian building and was demolished in 1995.

[scouserdave]

The old Cotton Exchange in Old Hall Street was a lovely building.
Scanned this pic from a book called Liverpool Then & Now (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Liverpool-Then-Now-Colin-Wilkinson/dp/1872568033/sr=11-1/qid=1164922293/ref=sr_11_1/202-6868754-6499827) ISBN 1872568033

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/cotton.jpg

[MissInformed]

:mad: :mad: :mad: oh my god.....this all makes me so so so so angry!!!

[Ged]

This is why the likes of the Florence Institute has to be saved.

[Waterways]

:mad: :mad: :mad: oh my god.....this all makes me so so so so angry!!!

We are seeing the same today with the destruction of the dock system. Not only that, inappropriate developments such as the Kings Dock stadium.

You see why these groups emerge to prevent further butchering and amateurish inappropriate planning and architecture.

[ChrisGeorge]

It was the Labour Exchange.
It had been built in 1904 as a block of shops and offices.
Very early on it was a car showroom called Argyll's.
At one stage there was talk of a new road in that area which was why there was some demolition round the corner in Renshaw Street.
It was a good Edwardian building and was demolished in 1995.

Yikes! I remember that building well. A shame it is gone.

Chris

[Scouseinmanc]

My top building would have to be the old Central station, with it's big arched roof & splendid cast iron vaulting. Had it not been for that sh*te, Dr Beeching, with his BR rationalisation axe, would probably still be around). The building at the front of the station (the CLC's old offices) was nice too & complimented both Lewis' on the LHS & the Lyceum on the RHS. A sad loss to Ranelagh St IMHO.

[PhilipG]

My top building would have to be the old Central station, with it's big arched roof & splendid cast iron vaulting. Had it not been for that sh*te, Dr Beeching, with his BR rationalisation axe, would probably still be around). The building at the front of the station (the CLC's old offices) was nice too & complimented both Lewis' on the LHS & the Lyceum on the RHS. A sad loss to Ranelagh St IMHO.

Central Station.
Old postcard.

[XL391]

The old Cotton Exchange in Old Hall Street was a lovely building.
Scanned this pic from a book called Liverpool Then & Now (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Liverpool-Then-Now-Colin-Wilkinson/dp/1872568033/sr=11-1/qid=1164922293/ref=sr_11_1/202-6868754-6499827) ISBN 1872568033

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/cotton.jpg

Please don't tell me this is gone??? :eek:

[ChrisGeorge]

Please don't tell me this is gone??? :eek:

Yes, the Cotton Exchange was, I believe, one of Liverpool's casualties during the Blitz of 1941.

Chris

[PhilipG]

Yes, the Cotton Exchange was, I believe, one of Liverpool's casualties during the Blitz of 1941.

Chris

The Cotton Exchange escaped the war intact, but not the 1960s modernisers.
The front was pulled down in 1967 and rebuilt in a "modern" style.
The rest of the building is still there.

[MissInformed]

what an utter shame.
Like so many other buildings on this thread.
It amazes me how or who makes the decisions to demolish these things.
Like the Cavern...

[ChrisGeorge]

The Cotton Exchange escaped the war intact, but not the 1960s modernisers.
The front was pulled down in 1967 and rebuilt in a "modern" style.
The rest of the building is still there.

Hi Philip

Thanks for correcting my misconception that the Cotton Exchange was a Blitz victim. I am glad to get the corrected information.

Chris

[lindylou]

The Cotton Exchange escaped the war intact, but not the 1960s modernisers.
The front was pulled down in 1967 and rebuilt in a "modern" style.
The rest of the building is still there.

yes, they put a bland and boring frontage on it. :rolleyes:

[theninesisters]

How's about Emmanuel - Everton. Demolished in 1972/3 for a supposed road widening scheme and to this day, the footprint of the church is still empty!!

The only consolation was that the bells were taken out and are now housed in Christ Church - Bootle.

[lindylou]

Is that the church that was West Derby rd ( by the Grafton?)

My great grandparents were married there.

[theninesisters]

That's the one, a real shame it was pulled down. We have the council to thank for that one. (no surprise there!)

[PhilipG]

How's about Emmanuel - Everton. Demolished in 1972/3 for a supposed road widening scheme and to this day, the footprint of the church is still empty!!

The only consolation was that the bells were taken out and are now housed in Christ Church - Bootle.

That was also the reason given for demolishing the Hippodrome.
And all they ever did with the site was use it as a Builders' Supply yard!

[phill]

The Liverpool City Council or whoever made the decision to demolish all of those wonderful buildings should be brought to task, that is vandalism of the worst kind; losing the Sailor’s Home was bad enough but still they continue destroying any vestige of the industry that made Liverpool known around the world, the maritime industry … That is your heritage, Britain has young men and women, in foreign lands, putting their lives on the line in the name of democracy while at home the same democracy is being denied the people … a main tenet of democracy is "the will of the majority", I doubt the decision to demolish was not put to the citizens of Liverpool?

[PhilipG]

This photo is from "Liverpool: This Is My City" (1972) by Richard Whittington-Egan.

The Nautical Catering College, on the left, was built in 1965-6 and was demolished for the Paradise Street Project.
The Sailor's Home was opened in 1850 and was demolished in 1976.
The site then remained unused for 30 years.
The new John Lewis store is nearing completion on the site of these two buildings.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/160/374924760_81c47eccf6_o.jpg

[MissInformed]

one of my fave Liverpool books Philip
I was only looking at that yesterday! thanks for posting..

[scouserdave]

How's about Emmanuel - Everton. Demolished in 1972/3 for a supposed road widening scheme and to this day, the footprint of the church is still empty!!

The only consolation was that the bells were taken out and are now housed in Christ Church - Bootle.
A bit late reading this. Thanks for the info about the Emmanuel John. We lived across the road from there close to the Olympia Pub. This is where the church once stood. You can just make out the Thomas Bowden Drinking Fountain in the background.

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/emmanuel.jpg

[lindylou]

My great grandparents were married at that church. It's sad to see just a space where it once stood.

[AK1]

It is shocking to see how many of Liverpool's great buildings where lost in WW2 or pointlesly demolished. We can only imagine what Liverpool would have been like if none of this took place. This is why we must cherish what we still have and protect it at all costs.
Too much character has already been lost, we can't afford to lose anymore.

[PhilipG]

What was lost in the War was only a drop in the ocean compared to what has been demolished since.
Once you leave the city centre, just look around and imagine that wherever you are would have once been completely covered with buildings.

[AK1]

What was lost in the War was only a drop in the ocean compared to what has been demolished since.
Once you leave the city centre, just look around and imagine that wherever you are would have once been completely covered with buildings.

The 60's and 70's where a particularly bad time for demolitions. One example is the site in front of the grosvenor casino on West Derby road. This used to be the site of a fantastic looking church which was demolished in the 70's. I'm not quite sure why it was demolished. I think it's bell is housed somewhere in Birkenhead.

[PhilipG]

The 60's and 70's where a particularly bad time for demolitions. One example is the site in front of the grosvenor casino on West Derby road. This used to be the site of a fantastic looking church which was demolished in the 70's. I'm not quite sure why it was demolished. I think it's bell is housed somewhere in Birkenhead.

That was Emmanuel.
It has been mentioned.
The reason given was 'road-widening' which never reached that part of West Derby Road.

[AK1]

That was Emmanuel.
It has been mentioned.
The reason given was 'road-widening' which never reached that part of West Derby Road.

How they ever got away with that is shocking, especially with such a great building.

[steveb]

Indeed tis sad that many great Liverpool buildings are being left to decay
or be demolished.... When you look back at all the hospitals, such as
Bootle Hospital, David Lewis Northern, Royal Souhern, St Pauls and many
more that all went when the Royal Liverpool opened in 1978 it is a shame
yet RLUH will meet the same fate in a few years when it is replaced, that is one horrible building, and they knocked down the Majestic cinema to make
a car park....

[wallasey]

Many fine buildings have been lost in the city over the years; The Law Courts and Chavesse Park occupy the site of a few examples such as Benns Gardens. Anyone remember them?

I am trying to think of some lost gems out in the suburbs; anyone got any memories?

Birkenhead has lost a great deal of quality buildings; it is a mere shadow of its former self. Certainly not as vibrant as it used to be anyway.

[wsteve55]

It is shocking to see how many of Liverpool's great buildings where lost in WW2 or pointlesly demolished. We can only imagine what Liverpool would have been like if none of this took place. This is why we must cherish what we still have and protect it at all costs.
Too much character has already been lost, we can't afford to lose anymore.

Hi AK1,
did you see my post on municipal buildings? an example of what seemed like, a perfectly useful building being demolished,and the site left unused!(though a carpark might have it's merits!)

[PhilipG]

Hi AK1,
did you see my post on municipal buildings? an example of what seemed like, a perfectly useful building being demolished,and the site left unused!(though a carpark might have it's merits!)

The building behind the Municipal Buildings received a direct hit during the war which resulted in its demolition.
The site has become notorious because it's only been used as a car park since the war.

[wsteve55]

The building behind the Municipal Buildings received a direct hit during the war which resulted in its demolition.
The site has become notorious because it's only been used as a car park since the war.

This photo was taken in 1948,during demolition, and at least appears to show that it could have been renovated, but unfortunately,like the customs house, it was in Liverpool!!!

[Ross08]

The cinemas were the biggest loss that we ever suffered - and not just in this area - all over the country.

In response to Wallasey's post - Birkenhead is in fact a shadow of its former self. I'd love to have seen some of the Birkenhead cinemas in use, particularly the Carlton in Borough Road and the one that used to stand next to where Argos is now on Conway St. (I can't think of the name at the moment and It'd take me forever to find my book).

[PhilipG]

It was the Plaza that was in Borough Road.
The other one you're thinking of sounds like the Ritz in Conway Street. (Sorry, but I don't know where Argos is).
I've got photos of both - I'll post them in the Wirral thread.

[Jericho]

I still haven't recovered from the loss of the Mayfair cinema, Toxteth Congregational Church, and Little Sisters of the Poor convent on Aigburth Road and I never will - especially when I see what is there now :shock:

[PhilipG]

And the Hamlet Church.
When you stop and think, it's surprising how much has gone, not just from Aigburth Road, but practically everywhere.

[ChrisGeorge]

And the Hamlet Church.
When you stop and think, it's surprising how much has gone, not just from Aigburth Road, but practically everywhere.

Hi Philip

I find it very depressing. From my recent visit to Liverpool, and to see how whole neighborhoods have been swept away. I was just looking at some of the photos of the demolition of the Garston Hotel and I just don't see what would justify the removal of a building like that. You demolish a building that has some style and elegance and you replace it with what. . . ??? What about heritage and continuity, sense of place and self-worth? I don't understand the reasoning. :PDT_Xtremez_12:

Chris

[Cadfael]

One of the biggest crimes in my book was Mason Street Edge Hill. This had some amazing and unusual buildings, all built by Williamson (and some post Williamson). Grand 4 story houses, massive and strange buildings and more importantly, Williamson's grand mansion.

Now ALL of that era has gone bar the facade of the front of Williamson's House. :PDT_Xtremez_12:

[customhouse]

The worst piece of vandalism by any Council, was the demolishing of the Sailors Home in Canning Place. It was world renowned, and even mentioned in the Liverpool Anthem "Maggy May". Present day Developers would have drooled over the prospect of making into Luxury Flats . If ever a building was of Heritage Value , The Sailors Home was it......Would have made a U Beaut Backpackers Hostel with minimum of alteration. I believe the only thing remaining are the original gates which are in the Midlands somewhere. The haste with which it was demolished left a bad smell of possible backhanders to certain Councillors of the time.

[robbo176]

I think Port Meirion in North Wales has a lot of the railing from the Liverpool sailors home

http://frankmazuca.tripod.com/portmeirion6.html

also the Museum of Liverpool Life had one before it closed down

[angus]

The old Higsons Brewery and that ace pub next door !!

[PhilipG]

The old Higsons Brewery and that ace pub next door !!

............are still with us.
Agreed they're great buildings, but thankfully not 'lost'.

[angus]

Thanks for that mate, it must of have been a dream.... nay nightmare, I aint been back since 1986 and I was sure an old mate had told me that Higsons was no more. We used to drink at the boozer (often late into the night) who's name I cannot remember before moving on to the Somali, Ibo, Silver Sands. Great drinkling days !

[Ged]

It's changed its name to Cains so technically he's right in that Higson's is no more but the building is still there.

[Klaatu]

I remeber seeing a photo years ago of the old Post Office building in
Victoria street (Now that new shopping mall)...It was taken before the war when it was twice as high and had turrets and everything!

I believe it was bombed in the blitz...and instead of demolishing the whole lot, they just chopped off the top half and put a new roof on it.

Does anybody know anything about it?

[PhilipG]

I remeber seeing a photo years ago of the old Post Office building in
Victoria street (Now that new shopping mall)...It was taken before the war when it was twice as high and had turrets and everything!

I believe it was bombed in the blitz...and instead of demolishing the whole lot, they just chopped off the top half and put a new roof on it.

Does anybody know anything about it?

You've got everything right.
It opened originally in 1899.
It was built in the French "Chateau" style.
I've got a photo somewhere.

[wsteve55]

hi,
just came across this!
Steve.


source-L.R.O.

[Klaatu]

Wow!...That's the one...Many thanks for that.
Imagine if we had that still there!

I love this site!

[chippie]

Ye olde Met Quarter eh.

[Scouseinmanc]

Thort I'd bring this old thread back to life a bit :)

Here's another, St Chrysostom's Church in Everton. Demolished in 1972

http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/content/images/2009/02/12/save_mid3_150x200.jpg

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Liverpool/Everton/images/StChrysostom.jpg

[lindylou]

St Chrysostom's Church

Pity such a fine church was demolished.


Here's the replacement -

[Waterways]

Here is the original:
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Liverpool/Everton/images/StChrysostom.jpg

[Klaatu]

Such a shame!:cry:

[Ged]

Yes, a great thread and well worthy of resurrection.

So, just to recap so that none are repeated and some listed here can be looked back at over the previous pages.

The Liverpool overhead railway - due to costly maintenance.
The Customs House - fire damaged only by WWII incendiary bombs.
The three ugly sisters, clarence dock power station. Due to being abolished.
St. Johns Market. For St. Johns precinct.
Liverpool's tram system. Supposed progress of buses instead of as well as.
The Theatre Royal. For road widening at Williamson Square.
Brindley Warehousee at Dukes dock. Due to being abolished/disuse.
Guiness Clock curved row at St. Georges Place. For St. Johns precinct.
Sailors Home. Only because of falling into disuse.
Strand Buildings. For newer buildings.
Old Hutte, Halewood. Abandonment.
Jericho Farm, Otterspool. Fields being bought by the city council for building.
David Lewis Theatre. Only because of falling into disuse.
Cotton Exchange frontage. Another moment of madness, only for a new build.
Helliwells Buildings, Castle Street. ?
Tram Depots. Finally after many years of the abolishment of trams.
Myrtle Street childrens hospital. Falling into disuse - new building.
The Labour Exchange, Leece Street. Failed road widening scheme.
Owen Owen warehouse on St. Anne Street - destroyed by fire.
Liverpool Castle. Fell to bits then replaced after a market by St. Georges. Ch
Liverpool Tower. Dismantled due to lack of need.
Rotunda Theatre. WWII bombed but only finally demolished in the 1960s
Pier Head baths. New lay out of the Pier Head area.
Central Station frontage. Lost to redevelopment.
Emmanuel Church, West Derby road. Failed new road layout.
Hippodrome Theatre. Failed new road layout.
Bootle Hospital. Still standing but abandoned.
Northern Hospital. New Leeds st layout and restructuring of hospitals.
Southern Hospital. New housing development and hospital restructuring.
St. Pauls eye hospital. Amalgamated into the Royal Hospital.
Benns Gardens - Sth Castle st area for new law courts.
Building to the rear of the Municipal buildings - lost through WWII bombing.
Mayfair cinema?
Toxteth congregational church?
Little sisters of the poor convent on Aigburth Road - for new housing.
The Hamlet church?
The Garston Hotel pub. Fell into disrepair.
Mason street housing. Age/disrepair. Mole of Edge hill frontage still up.
St. Chrysostoms Church?




.

[Waterways]

A good list. Here is another:
Liverpool's destroyed landmarks (http://www.liverpoolwiki.org/Liverpool%27s_destroyed_landmarks)

The trams? A large system. They were uneconomical and inflexible as the city was expanding. They caused traffic jams and that was in the 1950's with few cars around. The long haul routes could have been kept up the boulevards, however would Menlove Ave have all those wonderful trees now, which are on the old lines? Best cut and cover up the boulevards as they did in Paris and make Merseyrail even bigger and better, using fast, small, light trains, like in London's Docklands.

The best thing for the city is to expand Merseyrail and use the disused tunnels, stations and trackbed. Extending Rapid Transit Merseyrail (http://www.liverpoolwiki.org/Extending_Rapid_Transit_Merseyrail). Using the tunnels in the inner-city districts makes Merseyrail a proper metro where people use it to get around from district to district, not just commute in from the outskirts.

I'm glad the Ugly sisters went. They were horrible. Look at the Lumieres 1897 film and the Overhead passes the original Clarence Dock - much nicer.

Very historic.
Lumieres Film from the Overhead (http://www.liverpoolwiki.org/Liverpool_History#head-286fd028913a329f4debe54b9f973f15f8fd8ecc)

[scouse smurf]

A good list. Here is another:
Liverpool's destroyed landmarks (http://www.liverpoolwiki.org/Liverpool%27s_destroyed_landmarks)

Excellent stuff :)

[burkhilly]

Can someone let me know when the Sailor's Home and the David Lewis Theatre were demolished? I think I remember seeing both at some time in the past. I never saw old Lime Street, but I've seen photos on Ged's site, and there's no comparision to what's there today - that ugly precinct!

[scouse smurf]

Can someone let me know when the Sailor's Home and the David Lewis Theatre were demolished? I think I remember seeing both at some time in the past. I never saw old Lime Street, but I've seen photos on Ged's site, and there's no comparision to what's there today - that ugly precinct!



The David Lewis Theatre ceased being "a place of public resort" when the certificates expired on 30 November 1977. Demolition of the complex was completed in October, 1980.
The site has been redeveloped.

and taken from the link Waterway's posted before

Sailors Home - To the great and lasting disgust of many Liverpudlians, this wonderful folly of a building was demolished during the 1970s. Even worse, its site was not even required for new buildings - or even a road scheme.

[wsteve55]

But isn't it strange, that no one ever knows who made these decisions! We should have a rogues gallery, of these halfwits, not that it would do any good now!:disgust:

[Ged]

We should indeed and maybe the caption. ''Will your mugshot be on this next?''

That might put the phillistines off. Better than nothing - if we can find out just who was responsible.

[taffy]

Liverpool City Council have given permission to demolish what is probably the last decent public building in Garston.

This is of course Garston Hospital. It is to be replaced by a derivative tin shell of a structure on the same site. This will involve removal of the hill on which the current hospital still stands. Mount Pleasant will soon be no longer a mount.

[Klaatu]

Disgraceful, How can they demolish such a beautiful building?:PDT_Xtremez_12:

[Ged]

Even if it were for the dreaded apartments syndrome, it'd be better that it remained standing. It's all about money of course and wanting to use the existing site I bet.

[ChrisGeorge]

Liverpool City Council have given permission to demolish what is probably the last decent public building in Garston.

This is of course Garston Hospital. It is to be replaced by a derivative tin shell of a structure on the same site. This will involve removal of the hill on which the current hospital still stands. Mount Pleasant will soon be no longer a mount.

Disgraceful. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3351/3550870649_6cffe0c07c_o.gif

Chris

[wsteve55]

We should indeed and maybe the caption. ''Will your mugshot be on this next?''

That might put the phillistines off. Better than nothing - if we can find out just who was responsible.

Wonder if anyone here works for the council? Here's your chance to be an informer/spy!!! :nod::ninja:

[dazza]

If you're including 'Structures' in the building's category...as in the 'Docker's Umbella', then surely we should add the Old Dock as well?

[ItsaZappathing]

Liverpool City Council have given permission to demolish what is probably the last decent public building in Garston.

This is of course Garston Hospital. It is to be replaced by a derivative tin shell of a structure on the same site. This will involve removal of the hill on which the current hospital still stands. Mount Pleasant will soon be no longer a mount.

Disgusting. More metal and glass on the way.:PDT10 Soon we will only see brilliant architecture like this in photo's:PDT10

[Waterways]

If you're including 'Structures' in the building's category...as in the 'Docker's Umbella', then surely we should add the Old Dock as well?

Liverpool has Herculaneum, Harrington, Toxteth, Union. Part of Dukes, Kings, Victoria, most of Trafalgar, parts of Sandon, Parts of....etc..docks, that are filled in as well. Then there is the Dingle Oil Jetty. Various dock accumulator towers as well. Then there is New Brighton Tower.

[dazza]

Liverpool has Herculaneum, Harrington, Toxteth, Union. Part of Dukes, Kings, Victoria, most of Trafalgar, parts of Sandon, Parts of....etc..docks, that are filled in as well. Then there is the Dingle Oil Jetty. Various dock accumulator towers as well. Then there is New Brighton Tower.

We could do with a list, and then just debate on the order?

[Quentin_Sharples]

Yes, a great thread and well worthy of resurrection.

So, just to recap so that none are repeated and some listed here can be looked back at over the previous pages.

The Liverpool overhead railway - due to costly maintenance.
The Customs House - fire damaged only by WWII incendiary bombs.
The three ugly sisters, clarence dock power station. Due to being abolished.
St. Johns Market. For St. Johns precinct.
Liverpool's tram system. Supposed progress of buses instead of as well as.
The Theatre Royal. For road widening at Williamson Square.
Brindley Warehousee at Dukes dock. Due to being abolished/disuse.
Guiness Clock curved row at St. Georges Place. For St. Johns precinct.
Sailors Home. Only because of falling into disuse.
Strand Buildings. For newer buildings.
Old Hutte, Halewood. Abandonment.
Jericho Farm, Otterspool. Fields being bought by the city council for building.
David Lewis Theatre. Only because of falling into disuse.
Cotton Exchange frontage. Another moment of madness, only for a new build.
Helliwells Buildings, Castle Street. ?
Tram Depots. Finally after many years of the abolishment of trams.
Myrtle Street childrens hospital. Falling into disuse - new building.
The Labour Exchange, Leece Street. Failed road widening scheme.
Owen Owen warehouse on St. Anne Street - destroyed by fire.
Liverpool Castle. Fell to bits then replaced after a market by St. Georges. Ch
Liverpool Tower. Dismantled due to lack of need.
Rotunda Theatre. WWII bombed but only finally demolished in the 1960s
Pier Head baths. New lay out of the Pier Head area.
Central Station frontage. Lost to redevelopment.
Emmanuel Church, West Derby road. Failed new road layout.
Hippodrome Theatre. Failed new road layout.
Bootle Hospital. Still standing but abandoned.
Northern Hospital. New Leeds st layout and restructuring of hospitals.
Southern Hospital. New housing development and hospital restructuring.
St. Pauls eye hospital. Amalgamated into the Royal Hospital.
Benns Gardens - Sth Castle st area for new law courts.
Building to the rear of the Municipal buildings - lost through WWII bombing.
Mayfair cinema?
Toxteth congregational church?
Little sisters of the poor convent on Aigburth Road - for new housing.
The Hamlet church?
The Garston Hotel pub. Fell into disrepair.
Mason street housing. Age/disrepair. Mole of Edge hill frontage still up.
St. Chrysostoms Church?




.

Mayfair cinema? Replaced by a new Kwik-Save.
Toxteth congregational church? Demolished by the church themselves. They moved to a house round the corner.
Little sisters of the poor convent on Aigburth Road - for new housing.
Which never happened.
The Hamlet church? Demolished by the church itself, who kept part of the premises for services. Sheltered accommodation at the front.

[wsteve55]

Hi QS,welcome to Yo! :nod:(p.s.do you do any discounts?:D)

[Quentin_Sharples]

Can someone let me know when the Sailor's Home and the David Lewis Theatre were demolished? I think I remember seeing both at some time in the past. I never saw old Lime Street, but I've seen photos on Ged's site, and there's no comparision to what's there today - that ugly precinct!



The Sailors' Home was demolished in 1976, and the David Lewis went in 1980.

Thanks, wsteve55.

[Waterways]

Look at this:
Liverpool' Destroyed Landmarks (http://www.liverpoolwiki.org/Liverpool%27s_destroyed_landmarks)

[underworld]

I'd have liked to have seen the row of buildings on Commutaion Row restored where the Court House Pub was. I used to have a pint in there. The licensee was Barbara Dean - The daughter of Dixie Dean. Also te Legs of Man on the other corner was a great building.

[Waterways]

I'd have liked to have seen the row of buildings on Commutaion Row restored where the Court House Pub was. I used to have a pint in there. The licensee was Barbara Dean - The daughter of Dixie Dean. Also te Legs of Man on the other corner was a great building.

The destruction of Commutation Row was a crime - along with 1000s of others. It would like to see a replica - well the frontage.

[Ged]

I remember the Dean's having the clock around the corner on London Road which they renamed Dixies and is now paddys. The courthouse in the 70s/80s was managed by my arl mate and neighbour Dom Wiles who also worked in the legs of man and the lord warden in spells.

[underworld]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2569928695_71ecbd4e3c_b.jpg

[underworld]

I remember the Dean's having the clock around the corner on London Road which they renamed Dixies and is now paddys. The courthouse in the 70s/80s was managed by my arl mate and neighbour Dom Wiles who also worked in the legs of man and the lord warden in spells.

Barbara Dean was there in the late 80s up to when it closed down. She then went to Shotton in North Wales.

[Ged]

There's an actual pic of it on my site, donated by a contributor. A great looking building.

[underworld]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2101/2227793647_2f13636402_b.jpg

Customs House

[pablo42]

Nice one UW.

[underworld]

Or the old Pier Head building

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3111/2587097332_7c1969706c_b.jpg

This is from a postcard I have.

[pablo42]

Another good 'un UW. Nice one.

[bidston]

had to laugh when i heard mention of the david lewis, was a place for single men to stay if i remember

my mams brother uncle joe was always fighting with the wife and getting the worst of it, would end up chucked out and staying in the davis lewis for short periods

my dad said he was a deadbeat and ended up in the right place, the david lewis was full of dead beats

anyway my uncle joe told me the greatest satisfaction he ever had was one time in the david lewis he went in the communal washroom for a morning shave and at the next sink having a scrape was my dad

came off worst for once after a barney with me mam

what you doing here albert he asked, oh shut up you, was the only reply, laughed till he cried

[Kev]

New Thread Created - Lost Liverpool Suburnbs and Districts: http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24790

[danensis]

I always liked the run down church on the corner of

Catherine and Canning streets but its knocked down and flats built there now. Anyone got a photo of that?

Funny you should say that, only yesterday I found this picture:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c48/danensis/liverpool/Balcony.jpg

Taken on the balcony of our flat, in about 1972

John

[danensis]

And if you wondered where all those lovely old pubs went, they're probably here:

http://www.andythornton.com/products.asp/subcatID/120/special_offers_antiques.htm

John

[Waterways]

Funny you should say that, only yesterday I found this picture:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c48/danensis/liverpool/Balcony.jpg

Taken on the balcony of our flat, in about 1972

John

Who is the man?

[danensis]

The man was the boyfriend of my girlfriend's flatmate!

John

[Partsky]

Here is the original:
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Liverpool/Everton/images/StChrysostom.jpg

Waterways, thank you for this image, which I have never seen. How beautiful is this building and how sad most of us never had the chance to see it.

[Partsky]

This is such a great thread. Thank you to all the contributors. Wonderful stuff. How little I know about my own city.

[AngelCake]

I remember telling someone about the time I was in Myrtle Street childrens hospital and he didn't even know it existed! Even now it's strange passing that area as it will always be the site of the hospital I spent time in.
It's like Liverpool has more lost building sthan any other British city alhtough i'm probably wrong.

Great pictures everyone

[underworld]

Here's another one I would nominate - The old Exchange building/Exchange flags.


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3160/2550616577_5901d1202e_b.jpg

[underworld]

And another one would be "Bunneys" oriental goods shop that was on the corner of Whitechapel. You can see the twin towers of it on this photo here.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2353/2550616143_4d28a42da6_b.jpg

[underworld]

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[RonnieW]

I remember the Dean's having the clock around the corner on London Road which they renamed Dixies and is now paddys. The courthouse in the 70s/80s was managed by my arl mate and neighbour Dom Wiles who also worked in the legs of man and the lord warden in spells.

I'll bet he would remember my dad, Tony Williams, who worked as a railwayman at Lime Street between 1943 and 1973. He worked as a barman at the Lord Warden, Legs of Man and The Courthouse in the 1960s.Sadie was the manageress at the LoM, and I remember Bob who was married to the manageress at the Lord Warden. He was in the army in WW2 and told us the story of how him and his mate captured a high ranking German officer who turned out to be a Dutch copper.
Another good bloke who drank in the Lord Warden was a veteran of WW1, aJewish tailor, whose son had a boutique under Concord House. His name was also Tony, but I don't recall his surname. No doubt I'll remember it in due course! That's age for you!

[Ged]

It's a small world eh Ronnie.

[dazza]

Underworld's post#147 - Lord St./ Church St. showing "Bunnies"

If you look in the middle of the photo in Church St. you can see the 1st. F.W.Woolworth building to be established in Britain, 1909.

Notice the gable-end of the building, by the chimney, the advertising says:

Woolworth
6d STORES

[underworld]

Yes I see it too. And also the Edinburgh Cafe on the immediate left. By the way, thanks to whoever posted the guidance for zooming in and out on the forum its really usefull. Ctrl and + or Ctrl and - .:handclap:

[underworld]

Here is another one of Church Street. It may have some buildings of interest. I particularly like the street lamps in this pic. They look Chinese.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3086/2607860682_f82c536b2b_b.jpgt.

[dazza]

Great photo underworld.

I haven't seen this view of Church St. before? Chuch Lane can be seen, just to the left of the "16 Cooper & Co 10" sign. Church Lane was between the old WHSmith & 2nd Woolies building [later Burtons/Topshop/ HMV]. In this photo you could drive right around the building.

Daz

[underworld]

Here is another row of buildings that I wish were still there in Lime St - The Washington Hotel and the Imperial Hotel on the right of the photo circa 1930.http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2712/4289806921_fb57f6165c_b.jpg

[dazza]

Was this the site of the David Lewis building?

[underworld]

No, that was at the bottom of Parly somewhere. I think it was on the juction of Parly opposite the church next to the All Nations club. Both flattened now.