Steven Gerrard "Not Guilty" jury

[Click Liverpool]

A jury at Liverpool Crown Court has cleared Steven Gerrard on a charge of causing an affray.

More... (http://www.clickliverpool.com/news/national-news/125426-steven-gerrard-not-guilty-jury.html)

[Spike]

So did Amy Winehouse :disgust:

I however would have been called a thug if i had done it and probably jailed. Seems who you are is more important now days.

[Ged]

I wonder if Duncan Ferguson could have used the fact he was pre-empting a strike when he headbutted that fella, or maybe Joey Barton, well, ok maybe not him ;)

[chrismarsden]

It's good to see justice is still available to the common man.........

[hmtmaj]

Spot on Chris,
this case is now rested :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

[pablo42]

Spike, this has always been the case. Its who you are that counts.

[hmtmaj]

You make it sound like he should have been found guilty !

Who were Duncan Ferguson, Jan Molby and others,
They were top flight players, Jailed.
Can we have it both ways ?

It's either "WHO" you are or "WHO" you know, but then that doesn't add up for DF and JM above does it.

I probably wrongly assumed you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Seems like for some, it's who you are, that makes you guilty before even seeing the evidence in a court of law.

What's your view ?

[steveb]

wot a surprise, not. It was expected, just how many well known
people are ever found guilty ?, an ordinary person would have been
guilty as charged, look at Amy Wino,sorry, Winehouse, not guilty

[Anonbrumbie]

I wonder if Duncan Ferguson could have used the fact he was pre-empting a strike when he headbutted that fella, or maybe Joey Barton, well, ok maybe not him ;)

As an Australian I have to laugh at this pathetic British injustice. How can you approach someone then go and get your friends and come back then wait until your friends start hitting that person then start hitting them yoursefl and claim self defence.

The worst thing is Gerrard didn't even have to lie about what happened. What he said about his emotions and his worries we will never know the truth but the facts of the case made him guilty

I really hope this bloke takes him to the civil courts because at least there you wouldn't have 12 sympathetic morons on Gerrards side

[Anonbrumbie]

You make it sound like he should have been found guilty !

Who were Duncan Ferguson, Jan Molby and others,
They were top flight players, Jailed.
Can we have it both ways ?

It's either "WHO" you are or "WHO" you know, but then that doesn't add up for DF and JM above does it.

I probably wrongly assumed you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Seems like for some, it's who you are, that makes you guilty before even seeing the evidence in a court of law.

What's your view ?


You have to take each case on it's merits and there is no logical reason to believe that SG could join in an attack on a man who has not approached him or done anything other than be approached by SG and get away with self defence other than the fact of who he is. That is not to say someone like Joey Barton might not unfairly be convicted because of who he is.

[Waterways]

You have to take each case on it's merits and there is no logical reason to believe that SG could join in an attack on a man who has not approached him or done anything other than be approached by SG and get away with self defence other than the fact of who he is. That is not to say someone like Joey Barton might not unfairly be convicted because of who he is.

Looking at that CCTV footage Gerrard was guilty as hell. The man was attacked by his friend and then by him. He said he never saw his friend hit him who was nearly touching Gerrard. Yerrr sure he never saw it.

What was it over? Gerrard wanted the music changed (the man was the DJ) - a big "I am" type.

[Paddy]

So give me the night. Can you feel it comin in the air tonght, okay just leavin :ninja:

[Ged]

My view of it is that you are certainly innocent until proven guilty but its clear that this seems to have been a clear case of guilty. Gerrard bullied, barracked, intimidated and cajoled the DJ not once but twice in that he approached him with a list of records he wanted playing to be told 'i'm the DJ and i'll pick the music', just like you or I would be told. To go back again with back up is all of those things I list earlier - like saying do it or get filled in which is what exactly happened. The situation was manufactured by Gerrard, if he hadn't been so bull headed or perhaps posing that he'd get his way in front of his mates, then the situation and outcome would never had arised.

[Waterways]

It all depends on how he requested the records. If he demanded then of course he would be rejected. I'm sure they were lousy records too.

[Paddy]

You guys should be sitting on the bench at Dale Street your'e wasted here.

[hmtmaj]

The ONLY fact that matters now, is he was found NOT guilty.

Why can't we just accept that ?

If you think it's a travesty of justice, like the OJ simpson case, then fine, but the fact remains, he was found NOT guilty.

So please don't pretend you've seen and heard ALL the evidence AND you used to be a judge or you practice law and say he's still guilty, because the judge that mattered, never found him guilty.

God help me, if I ever go before any of you for dropping litter, I'd have no
chance :PDT_Xtremez_42:

[Ged]

The thing is, of course a jury can return with the wrong verdict and yes, that had to be accepted. It doesn't make it right to attack someone though does it just because in his capacity as a DJ he refused to play your record/s. If it was a scally in concert square would your judgement be as clouded, IE. than if it wasn't a liverpool player.

[pablo42]

I agree that if someone less famous had been charged, he would not have got away with it. Fancy lawyers are worth their weight in gold. Either way, good luck to the lad. Not really in the interests of justice to lock him up. I'm quite sure an out of court settlement will already have been arranged. Guys doing worse than that every day and getting away with it.

[hmtmaj]

It doesn't make it right, I was simply saying that he was found NOT Guilty, but it seems a lot of the Blues ( seeing as you think I'm biased ) wanted him to go down for it, why is that ?
It's just because he plays for Liverpool, not that you are bothered wether the court found him innocent.
You only have to listen to some blues and they all think it's a travesty of justice, like he's done an OJ Simpson ! :eek:
Now that was a travesty.

Mart

[Ged]

Nothing to do with him being a red on my part, all to do with landing 3 blows on a fella, after Gerrard's mate had lamped him one - al in self defence before the other fella had even moved - cooome on?

All to do with other thugs who will now think it's ok to do likewise and claim self defence. Some role model to look up to isn't it. Ask that only your record requests get played and if it doesn't happen, give the DJ a few digs.

To prove there's no bias on my part, Duncan Ferguson was rightly done for gbh and probably every sending off he ever got was justified, James Beattie too that time early on in his Everton career when butting the back of Gallas v Chelsea. To be fair, some reds i've spoken to are amazed he got off with it as it was a stonewall guilty in any other walk of life.

[Paddy]

The camera never lies or does it? Tonight in town someone will get a dig. I have seen these things go on. There are degrees of violence and most posters on here have thrown punches in their time. The victim was not it seems seriosly injured. Last time I voted for labour in a general election I woke up in the gutter with a cut on the top of my head. Thats what I call violence.

[AngelCake]

Money talks as usual. He's been found not guilty so we should accept the verdict but something is wrong if you can punch someone and walk away without recompense.

[kebabman]

I am glad Gerrard found not guilty.This matter shouldn't went this far at first place.
It went this far because his name was Gerrard and he is well known football player.
They tried their luck and ended up paying costs:)
An example; If same thing has happened between us,for example kev has hit me,same way Gerrard hit that person,then I went to same soliciter (who took his client matter to court), would he take my matter to court ? No chance.
Think of every weekend all over the country,if this kind of incedent goes to court we have to set a court on every street .

Well, I went and watched Tranmere Rovers Vs Liverpool youth team on Friday evening at Prenton Park..Suprisingly Gerrard played as well.He played for first 60 minutes.He played well and he scored once..He could of score more but he has preferred to help young players and let them to take scoring chances.
About 30 Tranmere Rovers fans booed whenever Gerrard has touched the ball. He will get this kind of stick this season on almost every away game.

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[JMLE]

I am glad Gerrard found not guilty.This matter shouldn't went this far at first place.
It went this far because his name was Gerrard and he is well known football player.
They tried their luck and ended up paying costs:)
An example; If same thing has happened between us,for example kev has hit me,same way Gerrard hit that person,then I went to same soliciter (who took his client matter to court), would he take my matter to court ? No chance.
Think of every weekend all over the country,if this kind of incedent goes to court we have to set a court on every street .


It was right that he was charged and taken to court and no matter who it is, they should be brought before a judge everytime. Yes it goes on, not just every weekend, but every day all over the country and it's only because they don't get caught that they don't get charged. Am I right in believing that the person who was assaulted withdrew his complaint and that it was a police prosecution. A police prosecution because even though the person withdrew his complaint and allegedly may or may not be driving around in a shiny new ?50K car, that the police deemed it serious enough to bring the charge themselves. He was bang to rights and if, as it should have been, the court case was in Preston and not Liverpool, the correct verdict would have been delivered. He's hardly got a clean record has he? He's been charged by the FA for violent conduct and suprise suprise almost used the same remorseful apology after he had tried to pull out* of this tackle/assault.
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*the Huyton dictionary must have a different definition than the Collins dictionary I use.

Bitter blue me la!

[Billy D]

Guilty as F***

But the great British Public let him of with it,,,

[kebabman]

I didn't know it was a police prosecution...Now it makes a sense to me.
They are good at wasting time .This case has proven that once more..If with a similar case(Gerrard case) If I would ask police opinion,they would advice me not waste my time,you can't take a small matter like this to court etc.
I do need police help 2 or 3 times a year.They are always too busy when I call.When I need their street cctv camera footage it seem street cameras are always out of order.
If my cctv cameras not operating ,they are threating me with a fine.
In a real life ,only if a big injury or a death atracts their attention,apart from that they are very happy to watch and give advice (off the record) after everything has happened .

Police has done their job .!!!!A big :handclap::handclap::handclap: for them.

Dear JMLE,
You have every right to feel bitter about Gerrard.I know football related feelings very well.

I strongly believe he would not found guilty at(on this case) any court in Britian unless all juri members are strong BLUE.
Then Gerrard would have case and ask for retrail :)

[JMLE]

How strange is this? It's as if the newsarse team read the posts on Yo! It's funny too. :handclap:

http://newsarse.com/2009/07/gerrard-to-begin-pro-actively-tackling-players-intent-on-possession/

[pablo42]

Nice one Kebabman. I hate to see celebs getting off with stuff that mere mortals would go to jail for. Likewise I hate people being prosecuted cos they're famous. The video evidence did seem quite conclusive though.

[wsteve55]

God,who cares? I'm just sick of hearing about this sort of inconsequential drivel!! Tell me, when they've all been given a 95% pay cut,and I might be interested!:retard::retard:

[pablo42]

wsteve, reckon their wages will go up not down. They earn more each week than my house is worth.

[wsteve55]

wsteve, reckon their wages will go up not down. They earn more each week than my house is worth.

Exactly,and for what????????????????????/

[pablo42]

Entertaining the public. there's lots on this merry go round.

[Devo]

Seen this on Facebook and had to Vote
http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=130859179971&h=a_OF1&u=7fKws&ref=mf
You have to sign in to Facebook to see it, it is a vote = Gerrard, guilty! or not Guilty!
Maybe we should start one here?