EVERY time some arsonist sets fire to a wheelie bin in Merseyside it apparently costs the local taxpayer £1,000!

Merseyside Fire Service says that the total bill is more than £1/2Million every year - and rising. The £1,000 bill per bin is the combined cost of fire-fighters tackling the blaze, damage to the road surface, damage to street furniture plus the cost of replacing the wheelie bin.

Each year there are around 540 wheelie bin fires - since July there have been 78 fires.

A high-profile campaign is to be launched on Friday, in an attempt to combat the menace,

Assistant divisional officer Phil Garrigan of Merseyside Fire Service, co-ordinator of the campaign, said: "What they don't realise is that they are costing their own community and their parents and grandparents money. They are making their own families suffer."

The campaign involves Fire Service, Police and the five councils within Merseyside. Wheelie bins will have stickers placed on them and wagons will be emblazoned with anti-arson messages!

Unfortunately for us, they don't CARE about their community, their parents, their grandparents or society in general. This 'bricks-for-brains' trash will see posters and stickers (if they can read) as an open invitation to take part in this 'bit of fun' activity...sort of "now why didn't I think of that?".

Publicising a problem such as this sometimes has the opposite effect to the one that's intended. For instance, the terms 'Happy slapping' and 'Hoodies' has glamourised these activities in the eyes of the thickoes, leading to even more reported incidents in the media.

No, I don't know what the answer is but I can't see that a publicity campaign is it.

Stickers with anti-arson messages ... what a laugh ! :mad: :rolleyes:

I'm sure that's gonna' work ... like the signs for 'No Ball Games' and 'Clean Up After Your Dog'

Yes and giving alarm clocks to truants :mad:, will they then invoice them when they start paying taxes? They probably get a wide choice of clocks too :mad:.

Wheely bin fires, setting off fire hydrants, quad bikes/ motorbikes, playing truant....OMG where will it all end?

All tax payers cash down the drain and back into the pockets of these kids/ teens for more petrol for their hobbies :mad:.

Why does anyone want to waste these wheelie bins like that! There great as it keeps the alleys from being piled up with so much trash and keeps rats and dogs from ripping them open and spilling trash all over the place.

Still the odd people who mess up the Alley's with bin bags though and throw old stuff out oftheir homes though. Was a crazy amount of students clothes(mostly womens lol) piled up at the end of my streets alley and you could walk around it, as it covered the whole end of that part of the alley! It has been cleaned up though since.

**** hippy Students not using the wheely bins and constant littering has caused Rats to roam my land! :mad:

A lot of lazy ones around here man.

What are they like in yo neck of the woods my forum friends?

Don't they have notices in the Uni's to tell them about littering and stuff?

Don't have many stoodies around where I live Max.

**** hippy Students not using the wheely bins and constant littering has caused Rats to roam my land! :mad:

A lot of lazy ones around here man.

What are they like in yo neck of the woods my forum friends?

Don't they have notices in the Uni's to tell them about littering and stuff?
It has been said that exactly the opposite is the case, Max. Now that wheelie bins are the norm, the rodents have not got easy access to food and so more of them are seen out foraging for food! Whether this is the case or not, I don't know, but it makes sense. I take your point about people adding to the problem but I don't think all litter louts have 'student' tattooed on their forehead.

(Incidentally, my avatar shows a typical scouse mouse pinchin' me nuts, or rather the birds nuts, in our garden.)

It has been said that exactly the opposite is the case, Max. Now that wheelie bins are the norm, the rodents have not got easy access to food and so more of them are seen out foraging for food! Whether this is the case or not, I don't know, but it makes sense. I take your point about people adding to the problem but I don't think all litter louts have 'student' tattooed on their forehead.

No, I agree SM - whilst rubbish is being created by all residents some more caring than others, u have litte tear-aways slashing students tyres and giving them a dogs life, robbing them of everything they own, shame.

I've seen a few scurrying to and fro around some of the older builders on our block. I've always just assumed they are as much a part of city life as they are country life.

You could have pristine streets and they'd stiull find a home somewhere.

I was greeted by a field-mouse in our shed where our tumble dryer is located in the winter, although I initially found it shocking I left it alone, poor thing.

Rats do not pair bond. Each male can service two to nine females.

Sexual maturity is reached by two months of age in both sexes.

Over a typical life span, a female rat can produce a dozen litters, each with six to 18 young, with inter birth intervals of three to six weeks.

Rats can complete the courting ritual and the whole romantic relationship in about two seconds.
(No smutty jokes, please). :rolleyes:

A pair of rats can produce 15,000 descendants in their life span. :eek:

Rats can run at 24 miles per hour for short bursts, about as fast as an Olympic runner.

http://www.cornellfinch.com/_images/rat.jpeg

It was in our compost comtainer probably eating out of it too!

This is what we have.

http://www.urbancomposting.com/images/Compost%20Bin%20.jpg

Rats do not pair bond. Each male can service two to nine females.

Sexual maturity is reached by two months of age in both sexes.

Over a typical life span, a female rat can produce a dozen litters, each with six to 18 young, with inter birth intervals of three to six weeks.

Rats can complete the courting ritual and the whole romantic relationship in about two seconds.
(No smutty jokes, please). :rolleyes:

A pair of rats can produce 15,000 descendants in their life span. :eek:

Rats can run at 24 miles per hour for short bursts, about as fast as an Olympic runner.

Man lucky rats get to do it loads.:Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:

Cold shower for Max, please.:celb (23):

Just a few of the many filthy grot spots around where I live; :disgust:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/rubinda/tn_c.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/rubinda/misc/tn_011a.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/rubinda/misc/tn_03b.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/rubinda/misc/tn_03a.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/rubinda/misc/tn_01b.jpg

.... and they wonder why there are rats !! :disgust: ... (and that's not counting all the discarded chippy cartons on the main roads).

OMG!!!!

Just a few of the many filthy grot spots around where I live; :disgust:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/rubinda/tn_c.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/rubinda/misc/tn_011a.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/rubinda/misc/tn_03b.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/rubinda/misc/tn_03a.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/rubinda/misc/tn_01b.jpg

.... and they wonder why there are rats !! :disgust: ... (and that's not counting all the discarded chippy cartons on the main roads).


Ghetto style like Toxteth!:PDT_Xtremez_12:

My mum makes complaints and they still don't change too!

These are the sights I see every day. I have to pass these dumps every time I go out to the shop, or walk the dog, or go to the bus stop.

VERY DEPRESSING !

See what I mean about Liverpool being like two cities in one.

The Capital of Culture - the town and water front will be fabulous ... like they aught to be .... but there are loads of areas like these pictures, not just Anfield, but in places like Kirkdale, Tuebrook, Kensington, etc, etc.

Students are starting to make my area like that!:Smiliz_Kingz_PDT_13

Today next door has 5 shopping trolleys in their yard and have thrown them out into the ally!

These Students are bad news. Robbing shopping trolleys, street or road and building signs is out of order. Yet these *******s are supposed to be the future.

My mum complains to them but maybe I should go out with her to see if they get intimidated.:disgust:

The Capital of Culture - the town and water front will be fabulous ... like they aught to be .... but there are loads of areas like these pictures, not just Anfield, but in places like Kirkdale, Tuebrook, Kensington, etc, etc.
You could pump money into these areas until the cows come home Lindy, but the filthy b*stards who are in the minority would still 'pig up' their environment!

PEOPLE create slums, they don't just appear out of the blue. The problem exists all over this country, not just in Liverpool.

It's a sad, sad world. :disgust:

A local council estate in Anfield was recently refurbished at great cost - new double glazed windows, central heating, newly turfed gardens & fences, etc,
Although some of the houses are kept ok, and a few have made an effort to make the gardens nice,
.... this is how a lot of the gardens are used ... as a large litter bin.
This is not the worst one I've seen either !


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/rubinda/misc/tn_07refurbishedwithnicegardens.jpg

(Some people would give their left arm for a garden.) There is no excuse for muck and filth.

Here's my humble back yard with an alley at the back. I keep it clean and tidy. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/rubinda/misc/tn_yard.jpg

A local council estate in Anfield was recently refurbished at great cost - new double glazed windows, central heating, newly turfed gardens & fences, etc,
Although some of the houses are kept ok, and a few have made an effort to make the gardens nice,
.... this is how a lot of the gardens are used ... as a large litter bin.
This is not the worst one I've seen either !


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/rubinda/misc/tn_07refurbishedwithnicegardens.jpg

(Some people would give their left arm for a garden.) There is no excuse for muck and filth.

Thats the result of creating a 'couldnt give a **** culture'. Sorry.

Your garden looks lovely BTW :celb (6)::celb (23):

all we had was a bloody concrete yard when we were kids and hardly ever used it.

Thats the result of creating a 'couldnt give a **** culture'. Sorry.

Your garden looks lovely BTW :celb (6)::celb (23):

all we had was a bloody concrete yard when we were kids and hardly ever used it.


I used to weightlift in my concreate garden.:celb (23):

Was nice in summer.

Ours is just a concrete yard too. But you can make them nice with a few plants and a bit of imagination.

These are the sights I see every day. I have to pass these dumps every time I go out to the shop, or walk the dog, or go to the bus stop.

VERY DEPRESSING !

See what I mean about Liverpool being like two cities in one.

The Capital of Culture - the town and water front will be fabulous ... like they aught to be .... but there are loads of areas like these pictures, not just Anfield, but in places like Kirkdale, Tuebrook, Kensington, etc, etc.


I agree with you. If you hadn't told me that was Anfield, I wouldn't have known. I see the same sights walking or taking the bus through Kensington.

Students don't live over here either, but other types do. And if it was students or professionals making the litter, I could somewhat forgive them because they are busily working to make themselves a better life. My guess though is that it's not them.

Can't understand why the Capital of Culture doesn't do something about it. Like issue violation notices and fines.

It is not students making the mess in Anfield. It's scally families.

It is not students making the mess in Anfield. It's scally families.


Is around here.

Scallies are closer up lawerance/picton road which is nearer to Toxteth.

THOUSANDS of homes are to get three wheelie bins, as Liverpool council tries to force more people to recycle.

Households will get two more wheelie bins to use alongside the existing purple one, and must strictly separate rubbish from recycling items including paper, glass and plastics.

For people living in terraced homes it means finding space for three bins, but the council says it is the only way it can avoid massive fines for over-relying on landfills.

If that happens, council tax bills could rocket by another £100 a year by 2010.

Liverpool council believes the new system will help it double the amount of waste it recycles, hitting national targets and sidestepping millions of pounds of charges.

Under the planned set-up, every household will be given:

* A green wheelie bin for garden waste.

* A light blue bin for glass, paper, cans, plastic and cardboard.

Initially, about 90,000 families will receive the green bin this November, with the blue bins following in March next year.

The council hopes it could eventually be expanded to cover the whole city.

Cllr Berni Turner, executive member for the environment, said: It will be rolled out to first residents who have enough space, and as we expand we will be working closely with residents and councillors to find the best solution."

The purple bins will still be emptied weekly. Both recycling bins will be collected fortnightly, on the same day.

Cllr Nick Small, opposition spokesman on the environment, said it was a "quick fix" not a long-term solution."

Where are we gonna put them all?!

My in-laws have got three bins: one 'normal' one, one for paper and one for garden waste.

We've just got the one, but take cardboard, cans and glass to the recycling banks at the tip.

I'm all in favour of recycling, but you've got to make it easy for people or they won't be @rsed if it's an effort!!

tell ya what? I'm amazed at how robust these whelly bins are, I thought the wheels would have fallen off by now, that would have been wheely funny..................

I heard from a reliable source that the only place you can hide from the police helicopter is in a wheelie bin. Apparently, the infra red camera can't pick you up because of the plastic they're made from!!

Well you learn something new everyday!

About time too is what I say. If it means that we can put the recylcing one out every week then we will have hardly any rubbish in the purple wheely bin.

Much better for everyone.

I heard from a reliable source that the only place you can hide from the police helicopter is in a wheelie bin. Apparently, the infra red camera can't pick you up because of the plastic they're made from!!

Do u reckon you would fit in one big fella? U are like 7ft tall

I'm a great believer in recycling things and have just found this website,

I put on 2 pond plants that I had no room for and they were taken within minutes.

So if you have anything that is still in a usable state then try using this site.


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LiverpoolFreecycleNetwork/messages

:PDT_Piratz_26:

Thanks :)

Great little site... I been checking out the recycling stations in London... they are giving away lots of ikea furniture... I have even seen working order laptops, this is like Ebay with no spending, I love it :)

Hey, we took delivery of our brand new 'GREEN" wheelie bin this week! The place is getting to look like 'Bin City'.

We had a lad around the week before conducting a census! One of the questions was "How do you feel about a battery collection service?"

Now, how would that work?

Brrring, brrring... Hello, Liverpool Direct? Oh, I've got two dead AA batteries out of my remote to be collected...... 'Shove 'em where?.... Excuse me... could you repeat that? Hello, Hello... Hello.......

I'd rather they have a polystyrene collection service :D


We have three recycle bins... and a paper recycle bag ...

The bins are,one for household waste and one for vegetable matter/compost .. and one for glass bottles, tin cans and plastic..

I heard from a reliable source that the only place you can hide from the police helicopter is in a wheelie bin. Apparently, the infra red camera can't pick you up because of the plastic they're made from!!

Maybe that's why I often see bins tipped over on the floor. perhaps someone was hiding ! Nothing surprises me.

ps,

the bin is the best place for them !:disgust:

They should do something for polystyrene and plastic, and tin foil.

I'm all for recycling.

I recycle the water out of the fish tank :)
When the tank gets cleaned out I pour the water on my 'yard garden' and the plants thrive on it. The fish waste from the filter is better than any Miracle Grow ! :)

Looking at Kev's pics of the bikes in the Mersey, perhaps they could recycle them! :)

Sorry!

Picks up coat, shuts door, goes home...

THOUSANDS of homes are to get three wheelie bins, as Liverpool council tries to force more people to recycle.We, here in Canada, have been seperating our garbage for more than twenty years. We have a blue box for plastic, glass and metal, a grey box for paper and a heavy duty brown paper bag for yard (garden) and organic kitchen waste. We place our garbage at the curb once a week, the night before pick-up.

Household appliances are picked up by arrangement but furniture, electronics and other reusable household items are usually collected by people scavanging which is a good thing because it means they are being recycled without using energy to alter them ainto other products and produces less to be shipped to the landfill in Michigan. Any construction material, toxic waste, paint, motor oil and chemicals are taken to a toxic waste depot and what can be recycled is.They should do something for polystyrene and plastic, and tin foil.We recycle all of the above.

What about elastic bands ! :D
There are millions of them around the streets of L'pool !
The postmen drop them.

I never buy lazzy bands ! Just go to your doorstep and you're sure to find a few 'delivered to your home!' :rolleyes:

This trend of scattering lazzy bands started fairly recently, during the last couple of years.

"LAZZY BANDS" :D

I always noticed they discarded them, even as a kid.. they made great finger catapults ;) ... but recently I've noticed the posties here dumping red rubber bands instead of the light brown ones ...

"LAZZY BANDS" :D

I always noticed they discarded them, even as a kid.. they made great finger catapults ;) ... but recently I've noticed the posties here dumping red rubber bands instead of the light brown ones ...

A few weeks ago a duck was found to have a red elastic band around it's beak so that it could not eat, put there obviously by some misguided underprivileged degenerate for a bit of 'fun'!

The Post Office commented that they used red elastic bands so that the postmen/women could see them better when they inadvertantly discarded 'em. "Oh look, there's another elastic band... aah—sod it".

Perhaps the Council should encourage the litter Gestapo to follow posties around, they could make quite a killing!

The Post Office commented that they used red elastic bands so that the postmen/women could see them better when they inadvertantly discarded 'em.

That serious SM ? ... if it is I'm going to have a word with our Postie.

That serious SM ? ... if it is I'm going to have a word with our Postie.
Watch he doesn't flick yer in the eye with a soggy bit of cardboard from his 'catty'. :eek: :)

Oh hey SM I'm a sharp shooter... and I'm alright at conkers too :D

Playin' with yer conkers at your age, shame, I hope you wear yer goggles.
Yer never know what you get in yer eye!:eek: :)

hehehe!!, theres no answering that eh :D

"LAZZY BANDS" :D

I always noticed they discarded them, even as a kid.. they made great finger catapults ;) ... but recently I've noticed the posties here dumping red rubber bands instead of the light brown ones ...

I don't recall noticing them. Ok, maybe the occassional brown one. But These red ones are in every street. I see loads of 'em all the time.

Last year there was a craze with the kids to collect them and make them into giant elastic balls ..... just shows you how many there were around on the pavements to collect !

The kids don't seem to bother with that now. In fact, there's one of these elastic balls lurking around the house somewhere ! A five minute wonder :rolleyes: :)

The Post Office commented that they used red elastic bands so that the postmen/women could see them better when they inadvertantly discarded 'em. "Oh look, there's another elastic band... aah—sod it".

Perhaps the Council should encourage the litter Gestapo to follow posties around, they could make quite a killing!


Lindy we should start an action group...

I prefer Red Wheelie bins like the people in Halewood have.

Purple sucks! :mad:

What's the score with a tax on our household waste?