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EVERTON is in talks with £2bn property giant Peel Holdings to build a new stadium at Switch Island.
The company, one of the biggest developers in the UK, is offering the land it owns at Netherton.
Peel, led by multi-millioniare recluse John Whittaker, will provide a feasibility study into building the ground.
The news is a massive step for the club.
Peel Holdings has a record of pulling off major developments around the country.
It owns Liverpool John Lennon airport, Mersey Docks and Harbour Company, the Manchester Ship Canal and the Trafford Centre.
A senior Everton source said the study is entirely at Peel's expense and would not cost the club a penny.
A City source close to the talks told the ECHO today: "The plan is for Peel to build a new stadium for Everton to gradually acquire it on a lease scheme.
"Over the medium term the plan would be a win-win for both parties."
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KNOWSLEY council has offered Everton FC three prime development sites on which to build a new stadium.
Executives at the local authority are involved in a sustained attempt to tempt the club out of Liverpool to the Kirkby area.
Kirkby's municipal golf course is one of the sites the club have been offered, along with nearby land next to Kirkby sports centre on Valley Road, both close to motorway access from the M57.
It is believed Knowsley would provide the land needed either free or at a much reduced rate, so keen are they to attract a prestige deal which would prove a massive boost to the area's economy and reputation.
Cheap land and the possibility of the council accessing regeneration grants for work in and around the new stadium will be a major inducement for Everton, with the financing of the project still a major hurdle for the club to overcome.
Last night, a spokesman for Everton confirmed: "There are talks ongoing. We have a number of options." It is believed the former Cronton Colliery had also been put forward initially, but was dismissed.
The club is now considering using that plot for a new training academy for coaches, if it can secure the finances once their stadium plans have been finalised.
The Everton board has been approached with a number of sites since the collapse of the Kings Dock project in February, 2003.
Other options include land at Switch Island and a site in Speke.
A spokeswoman for Knowsley council said: "The council understands Kirkby is one of a number of options being considered by Everton FC at this stage."
Liverpool Council is keen to ensure the club stays in the city and officials are sure to be busy working behind the scenes to try to match any deals offered by its neighbouring local authority.
The club has still not officially committed itself to leaving Goodison Park, its home since 1892, but will make a formal announcement this summer.
Officials insist it is still considering plans for redeveloping the current ground or ground-sharing with Liverpool FC, although these are both now highly unlikely options.
Late last year, chief executive Keith Wyness was in talks with financial experts about funding a 50,000-capacity stadium costing around £125m.
Everton's financial position has improved in the past 12 months, giving Mr Wyness renewed confidence that a new stadium is again a valid option.
In November, Everton announced the best financial results in the club's 127-year history. Turnover rose by 34% from £44.7m last year to £60m.
Everton secured a place in the Deloitte and Touche top 20 world club rich-list for the first time, and finishing fourth in the Premiership brought a greater slice of prize money, with greater revenue from live televised games.
Profit after player trading showed a turnaround of £38.9m, from a loss of £15.4m to a profit of £23.5m.
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Paul D
05-31-2006, 01:22 PM
It wouldn't bother me if they moved to Kirkby in fact an out of town venue might be better for us all because maybe they could use it for large concerts and not have to worry about local residents and noise pollution.Kirkby golf course was previously considered as an option years ago in the dark days under Peter Johnson so there's nothing new there,I just wish both clubs would sort themselves out because we are both giants of the game and because Merseyside deserves two big stadiums so let's hope they both stop dragging their heels and get a move on.
COUNCIL leader Warren Bradley today vowed to "fight tooth and nail" to stop Everton FC leaving Liverpool. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=17153599%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=we%2dll%2dfight%2dto%2dkeep%2dblues%2di n%2dour%2dcity-name_page.html)
A MULTI-MILLION pound plan to build a new Everton FC stadium in Kirkby is revealed today. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=17234954%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=blues%2dchoose%2dkirkby%2dsite-name_page.html)
EVERTON'S proposed move to a new stadium in Kirkby would be part of a development costing £250m, a confidential report leaked to the Daily Post reveals. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=17240490%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=everton%2dstadium%2dto%2dcost%2d%2dpoun d%2d250m-name_page.html)
LIVERPOOL council's newly-appointed chief executive will not mount a legal challenge over rival borough Knowsley's bid to attract Everton FC. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/breakingnews/tm_objectid=17259333%26method=full%26siteid=50061% 26headline=no%2dlegal%2dchallenge%2dto%2deverton%2 dplans-name_page.html)
Paul D
06-24-2006, 03:42 PM
I was made up to see that Everton have started work on their new academy the other day,Keith Wyness seems to have the club progressing in the right direction now.:celb (23):
EVERTON FC have been offered two sites in Liverpool for their new stadium.
Council leaders have suggested locations in the north and south of the city.
One is close to the Mersey retail park in Speke, while the other is a brownfield site north of Goodison Park - but its exact position is a closely-guarded secret because it is commercially sensitive.
But the ECHO understands that an alternative proposal to move Everton to Kirkby is still the firm front-runner.
Club officials have also not discounted the possibility of sharing a stadium with neighbours Liverpool FC if the Reds' plan to build a new ground on Stanley Park falls through.
A spokesman for Everton said the club was keeping all its options open and had still not decided if it would definitely leave its historic home at Goodison.
Council leader Warren Bradley, an Everton season-ticket holder, is desperately keen to keep the Toffees inside the city boundaries.
He said: "We have discussed two sites, whichwe have done some early analysis on and put forward to Everton's chief executive Keith Wyness.
"He has agreed to look at those suggestions, but the club is still talking with Knowsley council and has not made adecision one wayorthe other yet."
If Everton leaves Liverpool, the city would lose the prestige of being home to two top-flight football clubs and the massive financial benefits that tens of thousands of fans bring each matchday.
But Liverpool council will have to go some way to equal the very attractive package put together by Knowsley.
A 55,000-seater stadium in Kirkby would be partofa massive multi-million pound development to the south of the town centre, including a new Tesco, high street shops, a hotel and car park.
The involvement of cash-rich Tesco - whose chief executive Sir Terry Leahy is an Evertonian and an advisor to the Blues board - puts it way ahead of other suggested sites. It would also have excellent transport links to the M57 and Merseyrail network, and is only four miles from Goodison.
The Kirkby plan was met with a mixed reaction from supporters.
But its advocates have been quick to mention the town's high-profile link with the club - Everton's Z-Cars theme tune was taken from the Kirkby-based TV series - as well as the huge regeneration benefits the stadium project would bring.
A spokesman for Knowsley council said: "Kirkby is a vibrant community which would benefit immensely, both economically and culturally, from this type of development.
"But we must stress at this stage it is onlyone of a number of sites being considered and we are still in the early stages of discussion with Tesco."
Fans today said they would like more information about the options.
John Munro, from Everton's Southport Supporters Club, said: "Staying in Liverpool would be my first priority because we werethe city's first football club and should not have to leave.
"But from a selfish point of view, Kirkby is closer to Southport and its transport links are good.
"It would help the situation if we could see some plans or models of what is being proposed. Maybe then fans would be more comfortable about moving."
Another possibility is multi-million pound developer Peel Holdings' stadium project, earmarked for greenbelt land in Melling, near Switch Island.
An Everton spokesman said: "We still have three options open to us - staying at Goodison, sharing with Liverpool or a stand-alone stadium.
"We are still considering those options."
nick.coligan@liverpool.com
Pros and cons of potential new homes for Everton
KIRKBY TOWN CENTRE
PROS: Comfortably the most viable option at the moment. Knowsley council has found a site just south of the existing town centre, and megabucks Tesco, with Evertonian Sir Terry Leahy at the helm, is involved - so the club would not need to worry too much about the cost. Just three miles from Goodison as the crow flies. Close to the M57 and walking distance from Kirkby station.
CONS: It's Kirkby. Many supporters cannot bear the thought of moving outside the city boundaries.
REBUILDING GOODISON PARK
PROS: The club's spiritual home. The Old Lady has been home to Everton's biggest triumphs and greatest escapes, and no other ground has a history quite like it. Good bus and train links, plenty of parking in surrounding streets, and lots of fans walk to the ground. Shops in County Road and Rice Lane depend on match-day revenue.
CONS: No space. Goodison is surrounded by a road, rows of terraces and a primary school. Rebuilding would be a major logistical problem - the ground might even have to be rotated.
SPEKE/NORTH LIVERPOOL
PROS: Still in Liverpool, appeasing those fans who can't stomach a move outside the city. The Speke option has good transport links, plenty of space to build, and existing retail developments close by. Meanwhile, staying in north Liverpool would be convenient to many existing fans who walk to the ground, and the area would not lose the financial benefits of a Premiership club.
CONS: These plans are little more than suggestions right now. There is no mention of how they would be paid for or how much they would cost.
SWITCH ISLAND
PROS: Lots of room right next to the M57 for shops and parking, as well as a big stadium. Peel Holdings, which built the Trafford Centre and redeveloped Liverpool airport, is behind the plan.
CONS: Where do you start? The site is green belt land, so a lengthy public inquiry is a near certainty, potentially causing years of delays. Residents in nearby Melling do not want it.
Reds ground could be key to future
EVERTON'S future will not be decided until neighbours Liverpool resolve the deadlock over their own stadium plans.
The Reds are still desperately keen to build a £190m, 60,000-seater ground at Stanley Park, next to Anfield.
But the proposal is riddled with doubt over whether the club can afford its share of the long-awaited development.
Later this month, a final decision is expected on a £9m European grant, earmarked for improvements around the new stadium.
Officials have been waiting for months for Liverpool to provide a cast-iron guarantee that it can afford its ground proposals.
They have now set a final deadline of late September - or the money will go elsewhere.
Without cash to pay for the regeneration of the area around Stanley Park, it would be difficult for the Reds to persuade the council to allow it to press ahead with the ground alone.
Everton, meanwhile, are holding back a decision on whether to build a new home until they know for certain that a controversial ground-share is not an option. That should become clear in the next few weeks.
Paul D
08-23-2006, 02:08 PM
I think I'd prefer to see Everton stay within the city boundaries now so I hope the council can put together a really attractive package,let's hope Liverpool now sort their problems out so we can all finally move on.
kenotoole123@msn.com
08-23-2006, 02:23 PM
The old 'Festival Garden' Site might be a good place....Could even Build a couple of nice 40/50 Storey Towers too !!!...The present owners don't seem to be doing much !!!:unibrow:
Paul D
08-23-2006, 04:14 PM
I like to see then stay in the north end if possible it just feels right.
I'd like to see a shared stadia ... 'The Mersey Stadium' on Stanley park. The history of both teams from the very beginnings are intertwined like no other Football clubs. Unique.
gillian
08-23-2006, 10:23 PM
They can't move Goodison,many a persons last wishes have been to have their ashes scatterd on Goodisons sacred ground,my father for 1.
Waterways
08-26-2006, 12:18 PM
They can't move Goodison,many a persons last wishes have been to have their ashes scatterd on Goodisons sacred ground,my father for 1.
Matters have to move on - emotion and nostaligia can be retrograde. Everton and Liverpool need top quality stadia with excellent access and facilities. Without these they will decline. The outdated Goodison Park has kept Everton back, from being a top club to now a 2nd tier club. I'm sure your Dad would not have wanted that.
Waterways
10-22-2006, 11:03 PM
The Planet Hollywood owners and founder Robert Earl has bought 25% of EFC. He is into entertainment
- casinos, restaurants, etc, and wants to bring this to EFCs new stadium - when they get a site and build one. He wants top stars to visit EFC to raise the
image. Silvester Stillone is to visit soon.
Now this makes me think that he may want a prime site in Liverpool, not Kirkby for the entertainment
aspect of the stadium. Does this mean they may go for Central Docks?
I hope not.
Paul D
11-03-2006, 02:39 PM
EVERTON officials are talking with one of the country's top stadium builders over plans for a new home in
Kirkby.
The club has spoken to Barr, the developers behind Celtic's acclaimed Parkhead stadium and St Mary's in Southampton, as they prepare to
decide on whether to quit Goodison.
The Ayrshire-based firm is now working on ideas if Everton leave the city after 114 years.
The club was
today tight-lipped, insisting the scheme was at the very earliest stage.
A spokesman said: "We are still studying several
options."
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Paul D
11-03-2006, 02:40 PM
The Ayrshire-based firm is now working on ideas if Everton leave the city after 114 years.
Seriously it's time for
all of this nonsense to stop.:disgust:
Paul D
12-11-2006, 11:51 AM
Blues sign Tesco deal
EVERTON Football Club have signed an exclusive deal towards the building of a new stadium in Kirkby.
TheBlues have agreed that the move four miles from Goodison is now their preferred option, and have reached formal agreement with Knowsley council and Tesco to start the project.
The news of the deal will be formally announced to shareholders tonight at the club's AGM at Goodison Park, the Blues home for 114 years.
If the scheme goes ahead it would not only provide Everton with a world-class venue but would also mean a multi-million pound regeneration of Kirkby.
It is hoped the three-way partnership with Tesco and Knowsley will keep costs of building the venue to an absolute minimum.
However, the club, which has made no comment on today's agreement, will tonight emphasis the fact that no final decision on moving has been taken.
Above all, the Blues will stress their supporters will be fully involved during negotiation and discussion, and well before any final decision to quit Goodison.
Although the project is only in its infancy, if it was to be adopted and completed, the centrepiece would be a state-of-the-art stadium for the Blues, a world-class venue which would hold at least 50,000 people.
Though they would ideally have preferred to have remained within the Liverpool city boundary, it is believed the as-yet undisclosed potential stadium site stands less than four miles from Goodison as the crow flies.
Despite recent talk of a move to Kirkby, Everton have always maintained there were three options open - a new, stand-alone stadium, a shared stadium with Liverpool FC, or the rebuilding of Goodison.
With Liverpool now close to concluding a huge investment deal with Dubai and the cost of regenerating Goodison believed to be prohibitively high, Blues chairman Bill Kenwright and his fellow directors are thought to have opted for a move away from the club's much-loved home.
Waterways
12-11-2006, 12:32 PM
Blues sign Tesco deal
EVERTON Football Club have signed an exclusive deal towards the building of a new stadium in Kirkby.
The Blues have agreed that the move four miles from Goodison is now their preferred option, and have reached formal agreement with Knowsley council and Tesco to start the project.
Then...
However, the club, which has made no comment on today's agreement, will tonight emphasis the fact that no final decision on moving has been taken.
Either they have or they haven't.
With Liverpool now close to concluding a huge investment deal with Dubai and the cost of regenerating Goodison believed to be prohibitively high, Blues chairman Bill Kenwright and his fellow directors are thought to have opted for a move away from the club's much-loved home.
The club has had only ever considered two options, move or share, building GP was always out of the question.
I wonder what the Arabs will want with LFC. They will not want a half-cocked effort as the LFC design is. Would they still want to be in the same district?
Would this encourage the Arabs to invest in the city of Liverpool? New tower proposed, etc. Invest In Wirral Waters? Never know.
Paul D
12-11-2006, 02:45 PM
Either they have or they haven't.
I think why they're being cagey is because they want it to put it to the fans first,if you look back in the thread a bit you'll see that they are going to release shiny new renders soon of the new stadium to get the fans on board.They've clearly made their minds up they are now hoping to get the majority of the fans to support the plans,if the money's there to build it then it'll happen I reckon.The AGM is tonight so tomorrows Echo should be full of it.
Waterways
12-11-2006, 03:12 PM
I think why they're being cagey is because they want it to put it to the fans first,if you look back in the thread a bit you'll see that they are going to release shiny new renders soon of the new stadium to get the fans on board.They've clearly made their minds up they are now hoping to get the majority of the fans to support the plans,if the money's there to build it then it'll happen I reckon.The AGM is tonight so tomorrows Echo should be full of it.
Another silly vote? LFC never. EFC have had two overwhelming votes so far, so that should tell them the fans are for it. A waste of time. They should get on with the job instead of dithering.
Paul D
12-11-2006, 03:16 PM
I think it'll happen John and I agree if it come to that it would be a waste of time i'm not sure whether we'd need another vote? We should know more tomorrow I hope?:)
Waterways
12-11-2006, 03:30 PM
Dubai takeover 'will only work if Liverpool share stadium'
By DANIEL KING - Daily Mail
Last updated at 23:11pm on 9th December 2006
Liverpool's potential new owners will be able to make a decent return on their £450 million investment only if they revisit proposals for a groundshare with arch-rivals Everton, according to a leading football finance expert.
Last night insiders at both clubs dismissed the idea, but Professor Tom Cannon, dean of the University of Buckingham, insists the controversial move is the only way Dubai International Capital could make the deal work.
Although Cannon rates the chances of the Dubai takeover going through as high, he believes that DIC could still walk away if they cannot see a way of significantly increasing profits.
DIC are the private equity arm of the Dubai state, whose leader is Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashin Al Maktoum, reputedly the fifth richest man in the world.
A groundshare would meet with huge opposition from both sides of the Merseyside divide.
Everton were once keen on the long-mooted idea, but they are now further down the road with plans to move to Kirby than Liverpool are with proposals for a new stadium in Stanley Park and would not want to feel beholden to their rivals or their new owners.
But government and development agencies have always made it clear they would give increased political and financial backing to a shared stadium.
Cannon said: "When DIC have invested in other businesses, they have been looking for a return of about 10 per cent per year on their money.
"In the last three years, Liverpool have averaged a profit of £1m-£2m. Even if DIC are looking to increase the profits to £20m, the only way I can see them doing it is by building a shared stadium. A hotel and other facilities would bring in a certain amount of money with one team, but with two they could make a lot more money."
But Professor Cannon has joined other experts in warning that the Sheikh will not be matching the Chelsea transfer spree funded by Roman Abramovich.
Cannon said: "I'm told that the Sheikh is far from impressed with the publicity surrounding the bid and the suggestion he is the new Abramovich.
"DIC are an investment company and they will not be looking at Liverpool out of sentiment or just as a way of raising the country’s profile. You could buy an awful lot of advertising for £450m."
If the DIC deal does not go through, American multi-millionaire George Gillett jnr could return with an improved bid.
ChrisGeorge
12-11-2006, 03:49 PM
Hmmmm.. What would Liverpool rather have, the Premiership title or to have to share a stadium. It would seem to me that the significant investment that would enable the Reds to become once more the supreme force in English soccer might make a swallowing of pride over sharing a ground worthwhile.
Chris
Paul D
12-11-2006, 03:56 PM
Take no notice of Tom Cannon he always makes ludicrous claims there will be no shared stadium.The fact that both clubs have already dismissed this proves he's talking crap.
Take no notice of Tom Cannon he always makes ludicrous claims there will be no shared stadium.
It'd be a grand future if there was though aye ?
Waterways
12-11-2006, 04:13 PM
Hmmmm.. What would Liverpool rather have, the Premiership title or to have to share a stadium. It would seem to me that the significant investment that would enable the Reds to become once more the supreme force in English soccer might make a swallowing of pride over sharing a ground worthwhile.
Chris
If they did share GP or Anfield could become the reserve team ground for both.
Waterways
12-11-2006, 04:15 PM
When Everton first played on Stanley Park it was outside the city boundary.
When Everton first played at Priory Road it was outside the city boundary.
When Everton first played at Anfield it was outside the city boundary.
When Everton first played at Goodison Park it was outside the city boundary.
When Everton play in Kirkby it will be outside the city boundary.
Knowsley is an artificial council rimming Liverpool and should be incorporated into Liverpool. This came about as Liverpool Council refused to incorporate Kirkby and Halewood in the city as the Boundaries Commission suggested. Kirkby is in all intents a part of Liverpool, as is Bootle, Birkenhead, Wallasey, etc. There is talk of extending Liverpool to incorporate Knowsley and parts of Sefton.
The city always followed Everton.
The protracted stadium move over now 10 years has eaten at the club - this results from poor club management. From the biggest in the UK to second tier. There are no Arabs waiting with pot of gold ready to save Everton - Everton have a poor image. If EFC stay at Goodison Park, be prepared for Championship football.
Roll on Kirby. The sooner the move in the better.
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do you wanna resize the map water lad?
Paul D
12-11-2006, 05:44 PM
Roll on Kirby. The sooner the move in the better.
Yes I agree roll on Kirkby both clubs are too big for a shared stadium,that's small time thinking IMO.
ChrisGeorge
12-11-2006, 06:10 PM
Yes I agree roll on Kirkby both clubs are too big for a shared stadium,that's small time thinking IMO.
Just the opposite, I think, Paul. Retaining two stadiums seems provincial and small minded to me. But you might be right that Cannon is offbase and the Dubai investors might not make a shared stadium a criterion for investing in Liverpool.
Chris
Yes I agree roll on Kirkby both clubs are too big for a shared stadium,that's small time thinking IMO.
The Stanley Park project only received planning permission on the basis of LFC having sole use. If it was shared, the whole process would have to be gone through again.
LFC's standpoint is that they want to own any stadium they play in, although I dont think EFC can afford to be so choosy. EFC could theoretically rent a ground from LFC every fortnight, but I can't see their pride allowing that to happen. Although a LFC takeover is imminent, I'd be amazed if they went back to the drawing board over plans. Parry and Moores have been seeking the right deal for years, Stanley Park is dubbed the Parrybowl by some LFC fans who think he's been pursuing that to the detriment of team development. He wants to see that happen and I cant see him finally allowing the club to be sold to someone who'd relocate away from Anfield.
With respect to Tom Cannon and his inistence that LFC and EFC groundshare, why is it only in Merseyside where this is being advoacated. Are we not big or important enough to have more than one world class stadium. North London alone will have three when the olympic stadium is built and thats before Spurs expand. Manchester has two, Glasgow has three, Tyne and Wear has two, Cardiff will have two if Cardiff City go ahead with expansion.
Whats good enough for other connurbations is good enough for us if the clubs can finance matters.
Lets think a mo'.
What other clubs in the English leagues share a history like Everton and Liverpool?
The two areas most representative of the clubs lay in the north end of Liverpool. But suddenly its ok to situate the club miles outside the city of Liverpool!!?
If we had built a 'Mersey Stadium' on the Riverside, would it mean these clubs would have had to merge, because they had a shared stadium and had lost their distinct identities?
I think all grounds have an away and a home end. We could have done away with that bos, and had a Everton end and a Liverpool end at the Mersey stadium. We had an opportunity to lead the way in these islands, but instead we chose to reinforce the differences, differences of a type which still affect clubs like Celtic and Rangers to this day.
I'm supporting Tranmere next season :(
They will never share a stadium. Liverpool's new stadium has the go-ahead and could start construction as early as spring next year. Everton's new stadium virtually has the go-ahead and frankly, we don't want to share a stadium. It is not an option.
Paul D
02-06-2007, 12:40 PM
Everton stadium plans submitted
Initial proposals for a new Everton Football club stadium have been submitted to a Merseyside Council.
The club plans to build a 55,000-seater ground in a development that will also include high street shops, a hotel and a Tesco supermarket.
Its preferred site is in Kirkby town centre, off Cherryfield Drive.
Knowsley Council has pledged that the public and local business will be closely involved with the planning process as it progresses.
Everton FC said an alternative to Goodison Park would increase capacity and improve corporate facilities.
The club's last plan to relocate to a 55,000-seater waterfront stadium at King's Dock, Liverpool, was abandoned in 2003.
Councillor Eddie Connor said the plans were at a very early stage.
"There is a lot of work to be done before any initial ideas are formed into something more definite," he said.
"We will be asking residents to help us shape the plan in order to give them something that will bring real and long term benefits to their town."
jon_hall
06-26-2007, 07:54 PM
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Did Bill Kenright design it while drunk?
They missed a big chance with the Kings Dock scheme, mind if that had been 70,000 plus rather than 50,000 would have preferred Liverpool to move there (biased as if) as plenty more decent pubs there than the ones around either current grounds.
All for the sake of £30 million out of what would have been a £300 million scheme. Stupidity at its best againgst our blue cousins.
Sloyne
06-26-2007, 08:25 PM
All for the sake of £30 million out of what would have been a £300 million scheme. Stupidity at its best againgst our blue cousins. It would seem that way but, neither Everton Football Club or it's major shareholder, Bill Kenwright had that kind of money at that time. It sounds a paltry sum but if you don't have it or the means (leverage) of getting it then you are screwed. Peter Johnson left Everton in extreme financial difficulties. He leveraged the club to the hilt and left the new owner with very little to work with. I am sad that the club may leave the city of it's birth but, am also resigned to the fact that every modern club needs a benefactor, or two, and just glad that Everton's benefactor is also an Evertonian to boot.
jon_hall
06-26-2007, 08:43 PM
Can't remember the name of one of your board, but he had more than enough to cover the 10% stake but didn't get on with Kenwright.
It will be a pity if they do move out of the city but it will give me hours of fun taking the **** out of numerous old mates :PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Sloyne
06-26-2007, 08:59 PM
Can't remember the name of one of your board, but he had more than enough to cover the 10% stake but didn't get on with Kenwright. But he, Paul Gregg, refused to lend Everton the money. Nothing new in this, it's business. You can't, or shouldn't, use a businessman's lack of investments to ridicule the followers of a team. That's like ridiculing employees when they lose their job because the owner can't, or won't, advance the funds to keep the concern open. And just what kind of input do any fans have to their clubs today? Everton is probably better off, financially today than most Premiership clubs and it's still in Liverpool hands. It is not as successful on the field as Manchester United or Chelsea but it isn't in as much debt as either of those clubs. And football being a cyclical kind of thing I'm sure that one day both Manchester United and Chelsea will fall from their lofty heights and some other clubs will be in the ascendancy. That's not just the way of football, it's the way of the world. Amen!:)
jon_hall
06-26-2007, 09:14 PM
We can only hope mate.
Aye i know that its a business world, but it was a massive missed oppurtunity at the price, especially with the costs associated with new grounds even at that time. Kenwright should have pulled in some favours as he knows a few people with cash.
Still time will tell, not sure if i agree with Everton fans trying to scare the locals in Kirkby today by saying they'll be trouble and showing them footage of the kickoffs with Man u fans. Afterall it is only once aseason.
Sloyne
06-27-2007, 01:26 AM
Aye i know that its a business world, but it was a massive missed oppurtunity at the price. No, not really, if the money, even though a "paltry" sum, was not available then the opportunity wasn't there and, Everton did ask for time so it could try and raise the funds but Liverpool City Council, Liverpool Vision and the Northwest Developement Agency refused to allow any further time. Contrast that to the time permitted for the other club to get it's financing in order. Also, Everton had been mismanaged both on and off the field. On the field by an inept manager and off the field by a supporter of another club who enriched himself on Everton's assets. The Everton fans, every bit as loyal as those who support rich foreign owned clubs like Manchester United and Chelsea, are the losers, big time and it looks very much like the City of Liverpool will also be a loser by losing, probably the oldest, icon of local business from the city landscape. This, in some quarters, might be seen as a reason to gloat but, has nothing to do with football. Everton, like other clubs, went through a very dark period, with relegation a real possibility each and every season for a very long time. Luckier than some clubs who actually got relegated from the top flight and wandered, rudderless, for years in the netherlands of English football, Everton were lucky to maintain their top flight status. That period is, hopefully, behind the club.
When I was a child, teenager and young man our rivalry (Blue & Red) was about football players; Lello, Buckle, Farrell, Labone, Young as opposed to Balmer, Liddle, Stubbins, Yeats, St John, whereas today it is dirty sly digs at everything other than football. Everything is fair game to some, managers, owners, shareholders, wives, children, mothers, brothers, sisters as well as the players themselves. And some fans think they are the worlds best and no other fans have equal fervour, all a delusion I'm afraid. Each team in each sport has fanatics (were the word fan comes from), for example, I have a neighbour who takes his vacation every spring just so as he can travel to Florida to watch his beloved Blue Jays in their spring training camp in Dunedin, FL. then attends every home game and as many away games as he can get to. His devotion to his team is equal to any Manchester United, Chelsea or Everton fan I have met.
I know there is no going back and I think it was Thomas Wolfe who said you can never go home but, I still wish for a return to civility, if not in football as a whole, then definitely in my home town. Wishful thinking, I know.
Sloyne
06-27-2007, 01:33 AM
Still time will tell, not sure if i agree with Everton fans trying to scare the locals in Kirkby today by saying they'll be trouble and showing them footage of the kickoffs with Man u fans. Afterall it is only once aseason. Are you saying there wouldn't be trouble or is that just an oppinion? And afterall, "once a season" can be more than enough if you, or a loved one, is in the wrong place at the wrong time. And it is a possible factor that needs to be considered if one is to make an educated assesment of risks and rewards involved. I doubt that niether Knowsley Council, Tesco or Everton Football Club would bring up the subject but, it is a valid factor that has to be considered.
jon_hall
06-27-2007, 07:47 PM
Are you saying there wouldn't be trouble or is that just an oppinion? And afterall, "once a season" can be more than enough if you, or a loved one, is in the wrong place at the wrong time. And it is a possible factor that needs to be considered if one is to make an educated assesment of risks and rewards involved. I doubt that niether Knowsley Council, Tesco or Everton Football Club would bring up the subject but, it is a valid factor that has to be considered.
No i'm not saying there wouldn't be trouble, but they seem to have suggested it will happen, so if a new plot is found in the city will they then say the same again. I very much doubt it.
Sloyne
06-27-2007, 08:09 PM
No i'm not saying there wouldn't be trouble, but they seem to have suggested it will happen, so if a new plot is found in the city will they then say the same again. I very much doubt it. Politics!!!! And don't all advocates publish only what they want you to know? Is this somehow unique to Everton fans? Do you blame them for manouvering for position? I'm positive every other group would do the same, I'm also sure that none of the other parties will fail to point out what they think are the positives of moving to Kirkby and, will certainly broadcast the negatives of staying in Walton. You wouldn't be so naive as to think they wouldn't, would you?
Sloyne
06-28-2007, 02:00 PM
not sure if i agree with Everton fans trying to scare the locals in Kirkby today by saying they'll be trouble and showing them footage of the kickoffs with Man u fans. Afterall it is only once aseason. Alfie Hinks, the person responsible for the dissemination of the above footage, has apologised, unreservedly, and tended his resignation to the group he chairs.
Nice to see that some people can still accept responsibility for their actions and, if it offends, apologise. Really refreshing.
I've said this before. I don't know why in this day and age, and certainly with the rail infrastructure we already have in place at either Walton or Kirkby, why fans need to be marched a few miles into town in near darkness (in the winter months) at all?
Gnomie
06-28-2007, 03:40 PM
So is this where our transfer fund for the summer is going on a bloomin new stadium? bah humbug. no good having a nice new stadium if the team is only half good. C`mon build the team first.
How much TV money did we get for this season? and dont Man utd still owe us Rooney money? call in the debt.
Well the Kirkby land is supposed to be a freeby, that's why the locals are up in arms, but that's the incentive offered by Knowsley council to come there.
The stadium is then supposed to be funded by Mr Leahy and Wyness - Tesco/EFC board with none of the on pitch finances being touched.
I wonder?
Gnomie
06-28-2007, 03:55 PM
It smells of Doggy doo doo
and porky pies:PDT_Xtremez_12:
Harry
07-09-2007, 04:26 PM
The whole thing stinks, most of all Liverpool City Council's part in this debacle.
What other city would let one of its oldest businesses. one that employs hundreds of people, with a knock on effect for dozens of other businesses and a turnover of hundreds of millions of pounds just disappear over the horizon?
Obviously the worst performing city in Britain and the reason for that is cases like this. Disgraceful.
The whole thing stinks, most of all Liverpool City Council's part in this debacle.
What other city would let one of its oldest businesses. one that employs hundreds of people, with a knock on effect for dozens of other businesses and a turnover of hundreds of millions of pounds just disappear over the horizon?
Obviously the worst performing city in Britain and the reason for that is cases like this. Disgraceful.
The fact is although it wouldn't actually be in Liverpool City, it will still be in the Liverpool City Region which areas like knowsley are soon to come under. To say that Liverpool is the worst performing city is wrong. It is actually the best performing city but we had to start from a lower level than everywhere else, so it will take us longer to reach our full potential.
Paul D
07-20-2007, 05:50 AM
The images for Evertons new stadium are to be released on Friday at 10.00 am on this website.
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/stadium-images-on-friday.html
Paul D
07-20-2007, 01:06 PM
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4898/stadiumaerial1jb0sj2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/8352/stadiumaerial2rs4fd6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Personally I hate it.
city council leader Warren Bradley is still confident that Everton will stay within the city boundary. Some people just love lost causes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/6908927.stm
I doubt the move will ever happen.
Gnomie
07-21-2007, 12:29 PM
I heard that the people of Kirkby dont want it there.
i dont like the image, or the Everton board. i dont trust them one bit.
I heard that the people of Kirkby dont want it there.
i dont like the image, or the Everton board. i dont trust them one bit.
I've been listening this avvy to the radio and the fella that was on seems full of cack. He was going on about people in time getting used to the idea of the Liverpool City region, ie Greater Liverpool.
There must be some serious issues if they cannot keep the club in Liverpool.
Gnomie
07-21-2007, 03:01 PM
I love Everton , but what is the problem with the board. why are no investors interested? did we not get TV money like other teams around us? and we have to make do with loan deals. I tell you something stinks in the boardroom.
I would have thought they would back the manager to move the team forward. the team has made it into Europe , but no help comes from the board.
ya boo to them :PDT_Xtremez_12:
maybe all our cash went on Kenrights Joseph :eek:
Libertarian
07-21-2007, 04:24 PM
I believe Liverpool city council has offered EFC the land on Scottie RD by the tunnel where Bestway is. I think that would be the perfect location.. Few houses nearby, excellent road links, the regeneration of a rundown area and bringing the club back into Everton.
http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/8352/stadiumaerial2rs4fd6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Personally I hate it.
It looks like the Showcase Cinema on The East Lancs
Paul D
07-21-2007, 05:16 PM
I believe Liverpool city council has offered EFC the land on Scottie RD by the tunnel where Bestway is. I think that would be the perfect location.. Few houses nearby, excellent road links, the regeneration of a rundown area and bringing the club back into Everton.
I suppose this is all too much to ask,Wyness on the radio today basically said we need Tesco's money and they don't want to build it in an area where they will have any competition,they want to make huge profits on the back of Everton and that's why Kirkby is the only option.Kirkby is a win win situation for Tesco and that's why they don't want to consider Scotty Road,they would have the market cornered in Kirkby.Kirkby town centre will then slowly die as all of the profits will be syphoned off to some off shore account.Where there was once a family butcher there will be a boarded up shop.
Gnomie
07-21-2007, 05:29 PM
Well said Paul
If this Scottie road offer is true then i think it should be explored.
apart from Goodison, Scottie is the next best place.
Paul D
07-21-2007, 05:50 PM
Well said Paul
If this Scottie road offer is true then i think it should be explored.
apart from Goodison, Scottie is the next best place.
The trouble is if they get the yes vote then contacts will be signed as soon as September and then it's all too late,Kenwright is nowhere to be found,I haven't seen him in the public eye telling us how it is.If there is a billionaire out there for Villa then there's one out there for Everton,the trouble is though the board are making too much out of the club for them to want to sell,how else would you explain football being awash with money and Everton spending 4.5 million in the transfer market? With players sold since January it works out like they've spent just over a million in the transfer market this Summer so somethings not adding up,it's about time fans started calling for Kenwrights head methinks.
geoffrey
07-21-2007, 08:25 PM
we need Tesco's money and they don't want to build it in an area where they will have any competition,they want to make huge profits on the back of Everton
Aren't Tesco already planning a big place nearby as part of the Great Homer Street development? They would have competition from themselves.
Paul D
07-22-2007, 12:08 PM
Aren't Tesco already planning a big place nearby as part of the Great Homer Street development? They would have competition from themselves.
That's just proves how gready they are then,they're popping up everywhere and sucking the life out of small businesses in the area.Have you noticed how all of the pictures of the new stadium are at night? This is always a red flag for a new development as everything looks nice lit up at night,just how many Premiership games are held at night? not many so what are they trying to hide?
Paul D
07-28-2007, 08:17 PM
New plan to keep Blues in the city
EVERTON fans will have a plan to keep the club within the city to consider before voting on a move to Kirkby, council bosses pledged today.
Leader Warren Bradley said the authority was pressing ahead with proposals to build a stadium on Scotland Road.
And he promised Everton season ticket holders there would be a viable business plan to consider before next month’s crucial ballot.
He has put together a project team to work with cash-and-carry firm Bestway to devise a stadium scheme which he hopes will be enough to convince the Blues to stay in the city.
Cllr Bradley also said the council would waive legal restrictions on what the location, also known as the “tunnel trumpet”, can be used for.
Everton have repeatedly said the only deliverable stadium project on the table is the £150m proposal for a 50,000-seater ground in Kirkby town centre.
The club insists it has looked at Liverpool council’s alternative sites, but none fit its criteria of being affordable and practical.
Cllr Bradley said: “Along with members of all the other political parties on the council and Bestway plc, I remain committed to ensuring Everton remain in Liverpool.
“We are continuing work with Bestway to develop a viable business plan for the development.
“A new stadium at the tunnel trumpet site would keep the club in Everton and, with the commercial development through partnership with Bestway, would transform this gateway to the city and regenerate the area.
“Evertonians should be able to see all the options before they vote. I can see no better option than keeping the club in the city and in Everton itself.”
Bestway, which has premises on the Scotland Road site, met with the Keep Everton In Our City campaign group earlier this week to voice its commitment for the proposal.
Head of property Malcolm Carter said: “We understand Everton’s current position and are aware supporters will have their say on where the future home of the club should be.
“We do not want to interfere with that process. Everton’s future is quite rightly a matter for the club and its supporters to decide.
“We are committed to maintaining a local presence for our successful business and this remains of the utmost importance to us.
“However, it is our belief that our existing site could accommodate a new home for Everton.
“I can also confirm our willingness to work with the council, the club and its supporters to explore how this possibility could be realised, if this is something that they want us to do.”
Paul D
07-28-2007, 08:18 PM
I think we should delay the ballot while we look into this more.
What's with the latest round of headlines about literally everyone supporting the move?
Apart from the fans but that result isnt in yet is it?
All seems fishy to me.
Its hardly a fair ballot if flyers go out with the papers from the manager and chief executive supporting the move.
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4898/stadiumaerial1jb0sj2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/8352/stadiumaerial2rs4fd6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Personally I hate it.
Looks better than Goodison.
Gerard
07-31-2007, 10:50 PM
Looks better than Goodison.
No it doesnt Max..Specialy if its in Kirby.
How Isn't It better looking than Goodison because of It being In Kirkby?
Gerard
07-31-2007, 11:14 PM
How Isn't It better looking than Goodison because of It being In Kirkby?
Because Max,It could be anywhere actually and in my opinion it wont be as good as Goodison...And as a Life long Evertonian who doesn't spout of on here because of the silly arguments but watched all the 66 world cup games (Bunked in when I lived in Wavertree Gdns) and followed Everton since my Dad 1st brought me to watch Cheeko Scott and followed the blues since then and watched the Likes of Davey Thomas crossing to Big Bob and even Tiger mate and Mick Lyons and the Great Colin Todd and Duncan McKenzie Theres only 1 place for an Everton ground..and its not in Kirkby mate...And thats the last I say about Footie...Oh..I got Jimmy Husband's autograph on me hand and never washed me hand's for a month.
Never knew that did yer mate....Jimmy Who did yer say Maxie...Shame on yer Lad.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/L1090065.jpg
I would say Jimmy who though, I don't follow football.
I follow se boxing where we got 6 British world champs.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Waterways
08-07-2007, 12:24 PM
I am all for Everton leaving the outdated and landlocked Goodison Park. Time moves on. The Everton Kirkby stadium is a cheap and nasty effort - the corners are not even used being blank to save money. This reduces atmosphere in a stadium as the sweeping curve and roof promotes sound travel to all sides.
The sooner Kenright and his mob go the better. A cheap 50,000 seat lash-up? Everton - once the Mersey millionaires who were the natural host for the 1966 world cup semi-finals. What a shambles!!!
Good to have you back John :hug:
lindylou
08-07-2007, 03:29 PM
'ello Waterways, how are yer ? :) :)
Waterways
08-07-2007, 06:08 PM
'ello Waterways, how are yer ? :) :)
Knackered!!! Just had two weeks on Windermere. No Chavs, bald heads, tattoos, or the likes up there. Don't tell the Southerners they will want to go and ruin the place.
Howie
08-10-2007, 10:30 AM
City sites for Everton FC were 'rejected a year ago'
Aug 10 2007
by Larry Neild, Liverpool Daily Post
TWO of the alternative sites earmarked by council leader Warren Bradley as a new city home for Everton FC were ruled out a year ago by town hall chief executive Colin Hilton.
Cllr Bradley has launched a mission to ensure his beloved Everton stay in Liverpool rather than move to a new 50,000-seater stadium in Kirkby.
Last month he cited three alternative locations in Liverpool, the Bestway trumpet-loop land in Scotland Road, a car-holding compound in Speke and a large council depot in Long Lane, Aintree.
Sources at Everton FC see the shopping list as a bid by Cllr Bradley to influence the result of the current fans’ ballot over the move to Kirkby.
Last night, the Daily Post studied a letter sent by Mr Hilton on August 2, 2006 to Keith Wyness, chief executive of Everton FC.
The 2006 letter immediately ruled out of the equation the Long Lane site. Although the Speke site was a potential location, the amount of commercial development needed to make it financially viable would have left no space for a football stadium.
The letter confirmed that discussions had taken place between the club, the council and Liverpool Land Development Company which led to a review of possible sites within the city for a new Everton stadium.
From the list of possible sites, two were selected for further consideration – the Liver Industrial Estate in Aintree (The Long Lane site) and the Ansa site in Speke, fronting Speke Boulevard and adjacent to the large retail park.
Mr Hilton told Mr Wyness that irrespective of the need for enabling development at the Aintree estate, the site was considered to have major servicing, access and residential amenity problems associated with it. On that basis, and because of the difficulty of providing a main road frontage, the Aintree site was not progressed further.
Consultants King Sturge, who had been commissioned to produce appraisals of both sites, turned their attention to the 50-acre Speke site.
Mr Hilton said in purely physical terms it could accommodate a new stadium, together with significant amounts of additional development. It was estimated that the minimum cost of buying the site alone would be about £14.55m.
The consultants then studied how much allied development would need to take place to generate £50m.
King Sturge reported that in order to deliver sufficient funding to acquire the site and contribute around £50m of enabling development there would need to be 400,000 sq ft of unrestricted retail development. The land needed for the developments would leave no room for a stadium.
Mr Hilton said in terms of accessibility, visibility and overall location the Speke site represented an excellent location for a relocated Everton. But to achieve a stadium, the enabling development would have to be reduced from £50m to £20m.
That, according to sources at Everton FC, effectively rules out the Speke site. Last night, Cllr Bradley said a recent re-assessment of the Aintree site had now indicated that a stadium was possible on the site.
“We are talking to potential partners about the site and we already have a major supermarket chain interested in working alongside Everton,” he said. It is understood talks have taken place with Sainsbury’s.
He accused Everton and Keith Wyness of “playing games”.
Source: Liverpool Daily Post (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/08/10/city-sites-for-everton-fc-were-rejected-a-year-ago-64375-19603874/)
Howie
08-15-2007, 09:31 AM
Hatton: EFC 'wrong' to ballot on move to Kirkby
Aug 15 2007
by Larry Neild, Liverpool Daily Post
EVERTON’S board was wrong to allow a ballot among fans to decide on a move to Kirkby, former council politician Derek Hatton said last night.
More (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/08/15/hatton-efc-wrong-to-ballot-on-move-to-kirkby-64375-19631521/)...
Howie
08-16-2007, 11:51 AM
http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/liverpoolecho/aug2007/9/9/6E071E0C-A73A-259C-9852E51ABD1CD899.jpg
A RIVAL plan to stop Everton FC moving to Kirkby was unveiled today.
More (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2007/08/16/everton-city-stadium-plan-first-pictures-100252-19642229/)...
jon_hall
08-16-2007, 12:27 PM
Would like to see more on that one Howie, even though i'm a Liverpool season ticket holder and would laugh myself senseless if Everton moved to Kirkby, the club must look at alternative sites in the city in my opinion.
Kirkby is only viable due to Tesco pumping all the money in, if Leahry is such a fan why doesn't he sponser the club either on shirts or new stadium or both.
Howie
08-17-2007, 08:22 AM
Everton dismiss cash and carry site as ‘too small’
EVERTON FC last night remained clear that a site occupied by a cash and carry chain is not big enough for a new stadium for the club.
It came after the Bestway Group released pictures of a proposed design for the Loop site, off Scotland Road, as revealed first on liverpooldailypost.co.uk yesterday.
More (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/08/17/everton-dismiss-cash-and-carry-site-as-too-small-64375-19649151/)...
Paul D
08-24-2007, 05:14 AM
Everton fans have voted in favour of the club's proposed move to a new stadium in Kirkby.
The club balloted more than 36,000 supporters on the move, which chief executive Keith Wyness described as "the deal of the century".
Everton vowed to abide by the outcome of the vote but 59% of the 25,761 votes returned supported the proposals.
The 50,000-seater new stadium will be financed alongside supermarket giant Tesco and the local Knowsley council.
It is part of a planned £400m redevelopment of a 32-hectare (80-acre) site.
With Liverpool set to move into a new £300m stadium in Stanley Park in 2010, Everton are keen to keep up with their fierce rivals.
The new ground will be modelled on the traditional four-sided structure modelled on Cologne's World Cup stadium.
The plans caused consternation among some Everton fans as well as Liverpool Council, who were upset at the idea of the club moving outside the city boundaries.
However, the club argue that Goodison Park, the club's home of 115 years, is too old and impractical to expand while other suggested sites within the city were too small.
As they revealed the results of the vote, Everton pleaded with opposition groups to end their protests.
"We believe that now is the time for all supporters of Everton Football Club to set aside any differences of opinion and unite for the common good," said Everton's statement.
"The simple truth is, we all want the same thing - a thriving, ambitious and prosperous club away from the field of play and an attractive, competitive team on it."
But opponents of the plans have vowed to continue their fight.
Keep Everton In Our City spokesman Dave Kelly said: "The ballot has served to split the fans.
"That makes me sad as an Evertonian. There is still a long campaign ahead because public opinion in Kirkby against a football stadium is growing."
Knowsley Council are facing opposition from local residents over the prospect of a football stadium being built as part of their town centre regeneration scheme.
toothfairy
12-15-2007, 11:48 AM
Kirkby is only viable due to Tesco pumping all the money in, if Leahry is such a fan why doesn't he sponser the club either on shirts or new stadium or both.[/QUOTE]
Apparently though the land they want to build on is archdioceses land and has a clause that it should only be used for educational purposes or recreational. So Tesco need Kirkby or they cant build there store. The rumour is that the new sports centre which only opened this year is to be flattened and replaced with one owned by Everton and tesco therefore getting around the recreational clause. And probably along with extortionate fees for the locals of Kirkby (like myself) to join.
st3v3
06-09-2008, 11:01 PM
I m liverpool myself but not a die hard fan , probably why i dont see ground share as a problem twice the stadium for half the cash .The point i want to make is everton are an evertonian club! , isnt it bad enough we hardly have any local lads on the teams without they start moving the teams away from home .The everton area i lived in for 15 years and it could do with the regeneration now being planned for kirkby .Money is ruining the game all across the board , just look at the recent published accounts for liverpool and the debt of m&% U£d. It shouldnt be about selling the souls of the teams in the name of progress .Fan ownership should be discussed more if it works abroad then it could work here .
wallasey
06-10-2008, 01:34 AM
Personally, my view is that Everton should try to stay in or as near to as possible where they currently are. Kirkby doesn't strike me as being the idea place for a football stadium; especially when being incorporated into a retail venture.
Kirkby Town Centre is doing exceedingly well without a Tesco supermarket; I would fear that the small businesses that line St Chad's parade would suffer the most. The town my need a supermarket; but maybe a development like that would be more suited to the Alchemy Business Park on the East Lancs?
Paul D
08-06-2008, 07:06 PM
Club Statement re proposed relocation to Kirkby
We are disappointed by the decision. Having spent more than two years working diligently on a project which would not only provide Everton Football Club with a new home but also regenerate Kirkby, we had hoped to avoid a Government call-in.
Indeed, it was only in June that Knowsley Borough Council’s Planning Committee voted by a majority of 20-1 to grant planning permission.
We shall now engage in detailed discussions with our development partners, KBC and Tesco, to assess what options are open to us.
It is important to stress that this decision does not spell the end of the Destination Kirkby project – but it will, self-evidently, precipitate a period of reflection, assessment and re-evaluation.
Everton Football Club
6 August 2008
Waterways
08-06-2008, 07:58 PM
something so big usually does get called in. Doesn't mean it is doomed. Knowsley council were all for it.
disco
08-06-2008, 09:29 PM
Funny how Liverpool Football Club can build a stadium in a Grade 2 Listed Victorian park and the Government doesn't call there plans in
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