Bloody 'ell Howie, you better get round and touch it up mate! How long did that take you?!
Used to

work as an industrial painter/shotblaster for a firm called Hayes & Barnard in Hawthorne Rd., Bootle. They had the contract for North West Gas. The gas

holders used to take 2-3 months to prepare and paint. Besides Garston I painted others in Bootle, Chester, Wavertree, Ellesmere Port, Prescot, and

Warrington.

Video of the Window Lane

area:

http://sjl-static13.sjl.youtube.com/vi/oR_n7IpDer4/2.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR_n7IpDer4)

Click the image or

click here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR_n7IpDer4). It's not a showcase, it's a journey down Window Lane in its present state, the

boards surrounding the flattened areas seem to go on forever......

Really interesting to see

the developments, my grandfather lived over the road from the gasworks on Banks Road, we lived in Canterbury Street over the shop and then Kings

Street.
Looks like the last thing standing is the Woodies.:sad:

"WOW" Thanks for the picture's Kev!

It's hard for me to believe that all that area has gone forever! even the Pawnshop demolished!! poor old Frank Kett will be turning in his grave!. I

hope I'm still around when the area re-development is completed. Question that comes to mind, "Where have all the People gone"?

Here's the plan:

The Garston under the

bridge development is a partnership of South Liverpool Housing, Liverpool City Council, Liverpool Housing Trust and Lovell Partnerships.

The aim of the

partnership is to create an environment in which residents and business can thrive with local people enjoying a good quality of life in a sustainable

neighbourhood.

The project will deliver 307, 21st century homes, of which 120 will be for social rent

and 187 for sale. It will replace the current 500+ properties, which currently occupy the site, demolishing the empty Victorian terraces (already

happened) and 1970’s Radburn homes and provide a modern dynamic development that will offer excellent quality housing with a wide choice of tenure type for

local residents.

Work has also started on essential utility diversions and full-scale construction work is envisaged to complete some

time in 2013.

:eek::shock:

The scheme itself will represent a private/public investment in the region of £40 million.

Question that

comes to mind, "Where have all the People gone"?

On my mind too. sigh

*sobs* What a loss. I hope they get rid of the still standing

bits soon as they just make the area look worse than gone.

I wonder where the people will come from to live there? Will it be garstonians moving

back in?

(Norm I gave my parents the link to this thread they laughed when they read what you said about Frank Kett turning in his grave. the rest

of the time they were pretty sombre)

The post-war economic and industrial decline that afflicted all of Liverpool's docklands

throughout the 1950s and 1960s had a particularly catastrophic effect on the people of Garston.


Wrong decades. The late 1970s for

Garston. The south end docks closed down in 1972, with the Brunswick in 1975. Garston Docks are still operational today, despite being smaller and

requiring a long dredged channel. Garston was outside the Liverpool docks (MDHB). When tonnage of cargo was given for Liverpool docks Garston was always

omitted, yet the docks were in Liverpool.

Garston was vibrant up until about 1975. It was when the likes of the Bottle works closed down that

recession started to grab hold. Many of the people in Garston worked in the small factories, and the likes of Fords, at Speke.

I once met a grave

digger at Allerton cemetery who was from Garston. He was in his 60s and had never once been to Liverpool city centre. Many of the people had this backwards

small village mentality. There was fields between Garston and Liverpool up until the semis were built along Aigburth Rd in the 1920-30s, when Garston was

incorporated into Liverpool. The villagers didn't like it - they never do.

Many of the people had this backwards small village mentality. There was fields between

Garston and Liverpool up until the semis were built along Aigburth Rd in the 1920-30s, when Garston was incorporated into Liverpool. The villagers didn't

like it - they never do.

That'll be my mum and dad then John, my mum especially hardly venture out of Garston even now. Nothing much has changed,

people have often commented on how Garston retains a unique sense of community, it certainly feels like it does to its long standing residents even now. Of

course the up and comming 'teens' don't, they have assumed this national 'dumbed down' attitude that belongs knowhere.

Garston was vibrant up until about 1975.

He was in

his 60s and had never once been to Liverpool city centre. Many of the people had this backwards small village mentality. There was fields between Garston

and Liverpool up until the semis were built along Aigburth Rd in the 1920-30s, when Garston was incorporated into Liverpool. The villagers didn't like it -

they never do.

:Colorz_Grey_PDT_24: Im not mad, just defending my families turf.

One: Liverpool city centre is not the holy grail.

Garston was more than fulfilling for a whole life. Family and friends, fighting and laughing, work and pubs, gossip and drama, safety and kinship. Exactly

what does it prove to go to the centre of liverpool if everything that fulfils you is somewhere else?

Thats as bad as a londoner critting a scouser

for never having bothered going there. Whats the point? Youre still english even if you dont bother seeing the palace and your still scouse even if you

dont worship lime street station, the liverbirds and the bleedin beatles. Scotty road people are no more scouse than Garstonians, but they arent

Garstonian...!

Two: Defining Garston (well, under the bridge) as 'Vibrant' at any point in history is wrong in my opinion. It wasnt the common

hustle and bustle associated with a vibrant place, to my mind. It was a tight community forged on common struggle and hardship, wins and losses, who

understood the value of their community and loved what little they had and didn't like to see it stolen from them. When the sprawl moved in, their backs

were up against the wall. At one end the bridge at the other the docks. Thank god for the docks as thats what kept those under the bridge a community for

so long.
The developments that encroached upon them isolated them.
If they were Garstonian FIRST, not liverpudlian and didn't fancy being swallowed

up by urban sprawl...well, I cant understand why. whats the worst that could happen? They get moved out and the dozers come through and flatten the place

so other people can move in? Spose thats not so bad. :rolleyes:

THREE: There was no backwards villiage mentality - I cant even guess at the

era you're referring to and Ive got family history in the place from pre 1900 when my Granny was born there. I have lived and breathed the history of the

place from families both sides of the bridge and there isnt a backwards bone in their bodies. They were tough, hard, strong, proud. They had hearts of gold

and ties that bind for generations - beyond bloodlines. They were a community in every sense of the word -something I believe I hear people complaining is

lacking these days, within the non-backward thinking liverpool.

They were born in those houses (not there now), played in the streets, met their

partners there, dodged the bombs that fell, had lots of family and lifelong friends all around them. Their lives were full - they knew hundreds of people by

first and last name within walking distance and interacted with them all through life. They died there and were laid out in those homes by volunteers. The

death of an old person was mourned by a whole community not a lonely event that nobody else in the street knew even happened - as is common in forward

thinking 'communities'.

They were isolated from the outside community its true. But that says more about the places that swallowed them up than

it does about them.

Now its gone totally - don't speak ill of the dead and if you're going to, make sure you tell it like it really was. My

family feel like they have been erased. Slummy or vibrant? Something in-between is more like it with richness and depth you wont see again. It exists

only in the memory of those old backwards villiage people.

Alls I can say is THANKYOU for speaking of Garston so wrongly. If ever needed the

motivation to get my families history written up, I have it now.
:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

edited to add: This wasnt said in a mean way, just

passionate. but on looking at it, it could be taken offensively, sorry if it is. Think I may have read more into your comments more than I should have.

Then again, you did just call my entire bloodline backwards villiage people. :unibrow:
My dad seen the photos above for the first time today. he is

almost seventy. He has called me twice because he cant get it out of his mind. His anguish about all that is lost and all the memories flooding back of the

real garston - long gone - are driving him mad. Its been a rough day.

:Colorz_Grey_PDT_24: Im not mad, just defending my families turf.

Alls I can say is THANKYOU

for speaking of Garston so wrongly. gh day.

<snip mostly babble>

Anyone who never once went to the centre of the city he lives in is

VERY ODD indeed, and there were a few around there. Garston was no separate entity, the people had Liverpool accents and those who lived in the little

terraces off Window Lane originated from Liverpool attracted by the work in the docks there (the docks were built by a railway company and were initially for

coal). Note they never had Widnes accents.

Garston being a close knit community is not special, as most areas of Liverpool, Birkenhead, etc, can say

the same. Most can see the communities they were brought up in razed too. I'm from Liverpool 8 and in my lifetime I have seen the Victorian Toxteth, the

1950-60s, and the 90s. Three distinct periods of construction, all quite different.

Garston was a separate entity.

I have twice lived in outer lying areas that eventually become

suburbs of large cities, and whilst I may have passed through the cities, had no need whatsoever to be in them. I think there are odder things in the

world

I'd rather bable than BS

Garston was a separate entity.


Not after it was incorporated into Liverpool.


I have

twice lived in outer lying areas that eventually become suburbs of large cities, and whilst I may have passed through the cities, had no need whatsoever to

be in them. I think there are odder things in the world

There are odder thing. Not going into the centre of the city you live in is one very

odd thing indeed. Just mere curiosity alone would take most people in.

http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76&highlight=garston+quiz

Find FKoE's quote on here

and learn some history
A quick pop quiz.......... where was the original Liverpool?.

When did Lancashire villages of Garston and Walton

become incorporated into the city Liverpool?.

LOL that makes sense
it was always part of liverpool AFTER it was incorporated.

LOL that makes sense


It

does.

[url]
Find FKoE's quote on here and learn some history


Quoting him means you are scraping the barrel. Sad but

true.

Okay, truce. Your

perspective is not a shock. It doesn't bother me so long as someone is also telling the the other side of the story. My and Garstonians bable is just about

all that is left of the old 'under the bridge' now, so to some people its important.

Just had to comment on the liverpool accents you mentioned in a

PP. I know you cant be suggesting that there is no difference between the different areas accents.

If my original post went too far in trying to

isolate Garston from L'pool, it wasn't meant to. You mentioned the villiagers complaining about progress (as they do) and I was defending the reasoning

behind that kind of unrest.

Cheers, G'day, Crikey and all that polava

MM

Okay, truce. Your perspective is not a shock. It doesn't bother me

so long as someone is also telling the the other side of the story. My and Garstonians bable is just about all that is left of the old 'under the bridge'

now, so to some people its important.

Just had to comment on the liverpool accents you mentioned in a PP. I know you cant be suggesting that there is

no difference between the different areas accents.


If there was well I never heard it. I worked for the Gas Corpn and did the

Garston/Speke/Allerton/Aigburth areas - I knew every street and back street and had been in houses in them all. It was a Liverpool accent, not a Widnes

accent, which is very Lancashire. BTW, Toxteth was a separete entity at one time too, as was West Derby, Walton, etc. Depite Toxteth being a separate place

at one time (I think it may have been called Harrington) my mother went to Liverpool city centre.


If my original post went too far in

trying to isolate Garston from L'pool, it wasn't meant to. You mentioned the villiagers complaining about progress (as they do) and I was defending the

reasoning behind that kind of unrest.

Cheers, G'day, Crikey and all that polava
MM

Okay, truce. Your perspective is not a shock. It doesn't bother me

so long as someone is also telling the the other side of the story. My and Garstonians bable is just about all that is left of the old 'under the bridge'

now, so to some people its important.

Just had to comment on the liverpool accents you mentioned in a PP. I know you cant be suggesting that there is no

difference between the different areas accents.

If my original post went too far in trying to isolate Garston from L'pool, it wasn't meant to. You

mentioned the villiagers complaining about progress (as they do) and I was defending the reasoning behind that kind of unrest.

Cheers, G'day, Crikey and

all that polava

MM

Love your passion for Garston merseymay, you thank god you've got a voice on the net!!

Its a dilemma, waterways, I'd like you to have the last word but

dont want to be rude by not replying.

So I'll just say thanks for the debate, we aren't going to see eye to eye this lifetime.



Cheers

MM

"WOW" Thanks for the picture's Kev! It's hard for me to believe that all

that area has gone forever! even the Pawnshop demolished!! poor old Frank Kett will be turning in his grave!. I hope I'm still around when the area

re-development is completed. Question that comes to mind, "Where have all the People gone"?

hmmm now then ... that's interesting .... a

Frank Kett ..... my husband's great uncle (in other words his nan's brother) was a Bob Kett and the family used to talk of him having a Pawn shop. My

husband doesn't know the names of his nan's other brothers & sisters, and we are wondering if there is a connection. Wonder if Frank kett was a brother

to Bob?

The family used to say that Bob Kett's pawn shop was around the Breck rd area (probably around the 1930s) .. we've asked some older

residents in the district but we can't find out. There was a pawn shop but not of that name.
Kett is not a common name.

My husband's family have Garston connections ;

His

grandparents both worked at the South L'pool football club.

My mother-in-law went to Gilmore (spelling?) school (Whitehedge rd) and she worked at the

peanut butter factory in later years.
My father-in-law worked in a few places including 'Premier Foam' (Blackburn rd), Caulfields Atlas Express, and

later as a bus driver based at Garston depot.

The family were from the Mather ave side.

lindylou I think my mum said Frank Kett was Jewish. Does that help narrow things

down?

We don't think there is a Jewish connection in the family

- well not that close as regards the family tree .... maybe there could have been in days of yore! :)

It's just intriguing that both Frank and Bob

Kett had pawn shops.

Kett doesn't sound like a Jewish name does it ??

no idea if it sounds jewish. I just thought she said he was jewish. i could be wrong :) .

Hi Lindylou
I have a 1938 Directory

Kett Frank

-pawnbroker 3 & 5 King St,Garston 1257 Res. 20 Newlands St Anfield 1370 (the numbers are phone numbers)

Kett Robert -pawnbrokers manager 59 Bidston

Rd

there are a few other Ketts listed if you would like them too

hope that helps
Mandy

wow thats brilliant hey? the wonders

of the internet.:celb (23):

Its a dilemma, waterways, I'd like you to have the last word but dont want to be rude by not replying.

So I'll just say

thanks for the debate, we aren't going to see eye to eye this lifetime.


You are dead right. We will not.

Merseymay - you write with great passion - a passion that is still alive and well in Garston - as the

Council will tell you when they tried to close down Garston Church of England School. We had a hall full of 300 people and we gave them a run for their

money - they thought they had us beat but they thought again. Our community will rise again - the local council have had a hold up in regenerating the area

because Garstonians wouldn't move out!! Even now they chomp at the bit to get back home. Of course there are other parts of Liverpool that are just as

community minded - good luck to them. Oh, and I never go to town much either - guess that makes me backward - oh well, God gave me broad shoulders!!!

In Garston most of the pubs were Greenall's pubs. Few Greenalls were in other parts of the city. Why was Garston in the hands of

mainly one brewer?

I've enjoyed reading all comments re Garston, and I must admit that I can see both (or

all) sides of the discussion! As a Senior Citizen, (mid 70's) I probably look more fondly on Garston now that I don't live there, than when I did! and

I must also admit, that as a youngster growing up there we always considered that we were somewhat 'apart' from Liverpool as the 'city'! ("if you know

what I mean") perhaps the reason for that is buried in the past! As a child though, Garston was a great place to grow-up, and the boundries were far

reaching, Woolton, Hunts Cross, Hale, Halewood, all within reach of Garston Village, and more interesting place's to visit than 'the City' environs. I

played football on the fields known as 'The Willows' alongside Horrocks Avenue, 'walked' through 'The Avenue' to Hunts Cross, and Speke, and strolled

through all the parks to Woolton, all without using public transport, or even having money in ones pocket, and I must add! all done safely!! Can we say the

same now?:PDT_Xtremez_12:

We don't think there is a Jewish connection in the family - well not that close as regards the family tree .... maybe there could

have been in days of yore! :)

It's just intriguing that both Frank and Bob Kett had pawn shops.

Kett doesn't sound like a Jewish name does

it ??

Hi! Sorry I mentioned the name! but I do remember Frank Ketts shop! and I don't think he was Jewish! but then I was only a child

then!!:celb (23):

Hi

sweetpatooti it was nice to hear there is still a strong community full of fight!
Seeing those pictures was not nice. :disgust: And trying to

imagine the place formerly full of life when it looks like an abandoned - I dont know what! was difficult.
Yea the spirit of garston was echo's through

other parts of the city, I wasn't saying it wasn't LOL, but I was just trying to say why garstonians weren't backward villiage people when they felt

miffed at development encroaching on their area and why I couldn't understand what NOT going to liverpool centre proved. If someones going to make

judgements, let them be for decent reasons, not because people didn't feel the need to go out of their home area and fancied protecting their turf, if you

know what I mean.

Good Luck for the future. x

Norm I think my dad agrees with you that the fondness came later, having had to leave, at the

time it just was what it was.
Nice to read your memories
x
MM

Hi Lindylou
I have a 1938

Directory

Kett Frank -pawnbroker 3 & 5 King St,Garston 1257 Res. 20 Newlands St Anfield 1370 (the numbers are phone numbers)

Kett Robert

-pawnbrokers manager 59 Bidston Rd

there are a few other Ketts listed if you would like them too

hope that helps
Mandy

Mandy,

thanks so much for that. :celb (23):

Bob Kett 59 Bidston rd .... that's got me thinking .... there is a Bidston rd off Utting Ave - not far from

where we live in Anfield.

Newlands st (no longer there) ... I seem to remember that it was up the top of Breck rd - so the family story of Bob Kett

having a pawn shop up there must have got a bit confused with the residential address of Frank.

It looks as though Frank and Bob must have been

related. Brothers maybe.
Will have to try and do a bit of research.

Thanks once again. :) :)

ps,

Thanks to NormNZ for mentioning Frank Kett ... or I wouldn't have

found this out. :celb (23):

Quoting him means you are scraping the barrel.

Sad but true.


:roll:

Have'nt you a duck pond and the peoples heritage to save Watership,instead of being abusive and divisive

with a brand new member ? ... Hello there Merseymay


Never mind Watership hes a little, you

know..erm..http://www.unison.ie/images_papers/news/41/11790/pictures/326460.jpg


:D

<snip

babble>

Take no notice of him. He will go away.

Don't spoil a good

thread!!

:Colorz_Grey_PDT_24::Colorz_Grey_PDT_24:

disappointed

It is a great thread :celb (6):

It is a great thread :celb (6):

I agree!! It's memories like these that

keep 'oldies' like myself going!!
One mention of a certain name, or area, brings back so many other fond memories. Regards to ALL. Norm.:celb (6):

Hi All

Well some things haven't changed under the bridge. Found out today my folks old friends are still running

the kings after many many years! That was nice to hear. Puts a bit of context into the areas redevelopment for those of us very far away. Not everything

of old is gone, just almost everything :rolleyes: . The new housing will be nice for the area I'm sure.

I have a Q:
Will the original inhabitants

be able to move back in to the houses? Like, will they get first preference? I imagine not everyone would want to but if they want to do they get first

dibs?

http://static.flickr.com/79/269181751_0d6a783b49.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/269181751/)

The pub at the end of the

picture has now been demolished.

Is there any

word on how much the new houses (the ones for private purchase) will be worth? sorry if this is covering old territory.

MM

Hello Kev

Stunning pictures and video of what has become of Garston under the bridge. Also got a lot out of the discussion. Wow. Having been brought up in Mossley Hill I know the area and found the images to be startling. I take it that the parish church is being preserved, is that right? What about the old well across the road in what it looks like you designated as the old mill (?). I saw it when I was a lad interested in local history, also took a photograph of what was thought to be a "vinegar stone" to disinfect money in the old churchyard though that might have been my wishful thinking. The square stone had a hole in the middle of it and faces at each of the four top corners.

Chris

The church will stay, the well across the rd? I never knew about that, must investigate :)

Could do a few pics down Garston at the weekend when sister brings the camera back from France.

also took a photograph of what was thought to be a "vinegar stone" to disinfect money in the old churchyard though that might have been my wishful thinking. The square stone had a hole in the middle of it and faces at each of the four top corners.

Chris

There are some old columns from the church before this one - could that be it? The church there now is from 1875 or thereabouts. Oh - I went to Quarry Bank as well - but it had gone comprehensive when I went - still a great school though and still has some of the old masters.I

Whats going on with the site of what was the St Mary's Hotel? I was down there last night and the old pub is now a building site! It's not often a former pub which has been burned down gets it's vacant site built upon so quickly! The Astoria in Walton is a prime example of this!

Will have to get round there soon, I have been concetrating on Bootle recently and also Ellesmere Port.

Some more pics of opposite St. Mary's Church, Garston Under The Bridge - 13th November 2006

http://static.flickr.com/122/296443424_8faa85d16a.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/296443424/)

http://static.flickr.com/100/296443357_789cd1a59e.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/296443357/)

http://static.flickr.com/101/296442589_d74a10c075.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/296442589/)

http://static.flickr.com/117/296442485_e86e8ad2c3.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/296442485/)

http://static.flickr.com/111/296442434_c2c558ab8f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/296442434/)
^^This is interesting^^

Whats going on with the site of what was the St Mary's Hotel?


Du you mean the Garston Hotel? If yes then I have my suspiscions about that. There was a news article about it saying the demolision company were soon to demolish it, then it was burnt out even more, resulting in a mega quick demolision of the site. They are now building housing on it, which is flying up.

St. Michael's Church, Garston: I havn't been in the grave yard since I was 11 years old, weird experience. I tried looking for the Pirate's Grave I once saw as a kid.

http://static.flickr.com/114/296442535_69dd8d3125.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/296442535/)

http://static.flickr.com/104/296442895_4bdee94223.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/296442895/)

http://static.flickr.com/110/296443273_66b856bd80.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/296443273/)

http://static.flickr.com/100/296442805_593c3614e6.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/296442805/)

http://static.flickr.com/119/296442712_cb63d9277f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/296442712/)

http://static.flickr.com/109/296443022_7563f2aa79.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/296443022/)
^^old grave^^

Old Garston Station:

http://static.flickr.com/103/296539176_9e258806dc.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/296539176/)

There are some old columns from the church before this one - could that be it? The church there now is from 1875 or thereabouts. Oh - I went to Quarry Bank as well - but it had gone comprehensive when I went - still a great school though and still has some of the old masters.I

Thanks, sweetpatooti. I remember there were various bits of sandstone lying around the churchyard when I took my pic of what I thought was a "vinegar stone" and had it published in a church magazine on that basis. I think in retrospect it was probably a capital for a column such as you describe for the prior church that stood on the spot.

I see on Mike Royden's site (http://www.btinternet.com/~m.royden/mrlhp/local/monastic/mondoc.htm), he transcribes some information that says the stump of the old Garston cross was "relocated into the churchyard of St. Francis in Earp Street." That's something I wasn't aware of when I used to poke around the historic sites of Liverpool. Do you know if it is still there?

You were at Quarry Bank after me since it hadn't turned comprehensive when I left (Calder Girls was still next door). Mr Pobjoy, who had been Headmaster when John Lennon was a pupil, was still the Head when I attended.

Chris

Okay, Kev has a pic of Garston Village Cross on his Flickr site (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/269213307/in/set-72157594327508828/). Thanks, Kev.

And it looks as if that hacker is back in the chat area. Don't they ever give up??? :disgust:

Thanks for the inspiration, Kev. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Gravestone, St. Michael's Church, Garston

"Here Lieth the Body of Richard Kay
who died the 16th of August 1724"

The death's head and hourglass with wings
chiseled by the stonecarver are filled with
rain and leaves this chill autumn day where
he has lain three hundred years: Mister Kay.

Christopher T. George


http://static.flickr.com/109/296443022_7563f2aa79.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/296443022/)

Thanks for the inspiration, Kev. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Gravestone, St. Michael's Church, Garston

"Here Lieth the Body of Richard Kay
who died the 16th of August 1724"

The death's head and hourglass with wings
chiseled by the stonecarver are filled with
rain and leaves this chill autumn day where
he has lain three hundred years: Mister Kay.

Christopher T. George




Fantastic :PDT_Piratz_26:

Thanks, Kev.

Chris

Kev, I also did the walk around the same graveyard not too long ago, very strange place high up and away from the noise on Banks Road.
Only me and a old man who must have being thinking whats the weirdo doing looking graves.
I had been to Allerton taking photos of my family graves, I am not too sure what to do with them, I was thinking of putting them on my website but decided not to. (not too sure if it is the right thing to do, I maybe need to ask family members)
I did not find any family graves there, but to be truthful it would be a difficult task maybe need to see if there are records in the church or somewhere that would help with the task.

Kev, I also did the walk around the same graveyard not too long ago, very strange place high up and away from the noise on Banks Road.
Only me and a old man who must have being thinking whats the weirdo doing looking graves.
I had been to Allerton taking photos of my family graves, I am not too sure what to do with them, I was thinking of putting them on my website but decided not to. (not too sure if it is the right thing to do, I maybe need to ask family members)
I did not find any family graves there, but to be truthful it would be a difficult task maybe need to see if there are records in the church or somewhere that would help with the task.

Yes John, it was noisy today as the demolision work opposite was taking place as I stood by the wall. Strangely quiet though as I walked through the graves being careful not to fall down any holes. To think we used to play cricket there in the 80's, sorry :neutral: . I think I'd like to get inside again soon.

Hi John

There is a website for Allerton Cemetery that you might find useful:

http://allertoncemetery.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/

My great grandmother on my mother's side had an unmarked grave in Allerton Cemetery, about which I wrote a poem, "Grandma Potts Had an Unmarked Grave," (http://chrisgeorge.netpublish.net/Poems/GrandmaPottsHadanUnmarked.htm) but I would think even if her grave was unmarked the cemetery probably had a record showing where she was buried.

Chris

Hi CG I have seen this site before,

They do keep records of all graves and would be able to pinpoint the place if you have the details.
I went awhile ago and took some photos for a woman in Wales, she want to know what was there before she made the journey, I went and there was nothing there so took some photos for her so she could see the area.

http://static.flickr.com/116/269209820_a0c5187afe.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/269209820/)


Hi Kev

This building was a Liverpool City Library branch at one time and now apparently is not. Can you confirm? I wonder when it stopped being a library branch? If it is the same building I am thinking of I was held responsible by Mr Philpott, the then head librarian, for nonreturn of some mathematics book, although I was absolutely innocent of the charge.

Chris

Its still a Library and a beautiful one at that. Liverpool Libraries are also One Stop Shops (http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/One_stop_shops/index.asp) too.

Its still a Library and a beautiful one at that. Liverpool Libraries are also One Stop Shops (http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/One_stop_shops/index.asp) too.

Oh, okay, thanks for clarifying, Kev!

Chris

St. Mary's Church, Garston: I havn't been in the grave yard since I was 11 years old, weird experience. I tried looking for the Pirate's Grave I once saw as a kid.


WHAT? Kevin - you know very well it's St Michael's - what would Mrs Lester say?:eek:

:PDT_Aliboronz_24: Thanks Kev for the photographs of the Garston docks
and surrounding areas. Was Richard Kay a real pirate?:)

Hello Jimmy

If I might answer for Kev, that skull on the tombstone of Richard Kay was standard iconography of the day, as in the following example from the US (then British North America)--

http://images.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_SM/0018-0405-1710-0222_SM.jpg

-- a skull and crossbones on a headstone in King's Chapel Graveyard in Boston, Massachusetts. Photograph by Verna Bice.

Chris

:) Cheers Chris.

:PDT_Aliboronz_24: Thanks Kev for the photographs of the Garston docks
and surrounding areas. Was Richard Kay a real pirate?:)
Fantastic pics!

:PDT_Aliboronz_24: Thanks Kev for the photographs of the Garston docks
and surrounding areas. Was Richard Kay a real pirate?:)
Nice one Jimmy:PDT_Piratz_26:

:PDT_Aliboronz_24: Thanks Kev for the photographs of the Garston docks
and surrounding areas.

The docks are still full active. Do they deal in coal a lot there now? It used to be containers and timber.

WHAT? Kevin - you know very well it's St Michael's - what would Mrs Lester say?:eek:

St. Michael's, St. Michael's, repeating over and over again. Soz about that. Slap my wrists for that one, I was in a hurry.

Kev :PDT_Aliboronz_11:

Mrs Lester, is she still in the local area?

I've seen Mrs Lester once or twice in Tescos in Woolton - she still calls me "Andrew's mum" - I don't know how she remembers everyone but she does - she looks very well.

You are forgiven for getting the name of our lovely church wrong - only because your piccies are so good - why don't you go inside and take some more? Take the old memorials at the back of the church to the Norris family and Miss Watts of Speke Hall?

I've seen Mrs Lester once or twice in Tescos in Woolton - she still calls me "Andrew's mum" - I don't know how she remembers everyone but she does - she looks very well.

You are forgiven for getting the name of our lovely church wrong - only because your piccies are so good - why don't you go inside and take some more? Take the old memorials at the back of the church to the Norris family and Miss Watts of Speke Hall?

I must come and see those memorials to the Norrises and Miss Watts of Speke Hall in St. Michael's church, Garston. I have seen the Norris brasses in Childwall Church -- I got a photograph and a rubbing of them some forty years ago. Also did a photo essay and a plan of Speke Hall for architecture class at Quarry Bank High School. Incidentally, I also did a project on local mills and will have to get all those old pics on Flickr one day as soon as I reacquire a scanner.

Chris

Miss Watt of Speke Hall fame attended St Michael's Garston when she fell out with the Vicar at All Saints in Speke - the hatchments at the front of the church are something to do with Miss Watt and the family too. If I was any good at such shenanigans I would take photos and put them up here for you - sadly I'm not:sad:

Thanks for that information, sweetpatooti. Did you know that the American-born artist James McNeill Whistler (known for the painting popularly known as "Whistler's Mother") did etchings of Speke Hall in the later 19th century, as in the below example. His patron was the then owner of Speke Hall, Liverpool shipping magnate Frederick R. Leyland. For Leyland's London mansion, Whistler painted the fabulous and controversial "Peacock Room" (http://www.asia.si.edu/exhibitions/online/peacock/default.htm), which is now in the Freer Gallery of the Smithsonian Institution, close to where I work in Washington, D.C.

http://www.tamsquare.net/pictures/W/James-Abbott-McNeill-Whistler-Speke-Hall.jpg

James Abbott McNeill Whistler, "Speke Hall"

How interesting. You never know just what's on your doorstep do you? I love the simplicity of that picture of the Hall - no fol-de-rol - just as it is. In complete contrast to that gorgeous Peacock Room - that is truly spectacular - do you go to see it?

Alex Corina (http://www.alexcorina.com/) just sent me this email which may be of interest to you Garstonians(?)

Three Humped Camel In Garston

Another Art Crawl (Three venues)

Come and join us - wine mince pies and the Christmas Spirit starts here.

With the Switching On of Neon Animal 'Garstons Three humped Camel'

1. switching on ceremony and party at the Slaughterhouse for Animal a 25 ft neon light in St Mary's Road Friday 17th November at 5:30 pm. International artist Ron Haseldon invited pupils to make drawings on the subject of an animal on an A6 piece of paper. One was chosen and transformed into a large scale, freestanding neon light.

Garstons animal is a three humped camel drawn by a pupil of gilmore infants.
This project is a Liverpool Biennial project developed in collaboration with Garston Cultural Village, Rotunda College in Vauxhall and Metal in Kensington. The three organisations aim to create through collaborative work, a presence in the neighbourhoods for the Biennial beyond the city centre.

2. Cafe Cargo Cafe Gallery

Pupils Drawings for the Garston Animal Project will be exhibited and a

Preview of work by Chris Vine work from the capital Of Culture Series.

Exhibition will include Trojan Lamb Banana, Meccano Liver Bird, Carousel and other pictures.

" Many of my paintings tend to paint themselves. Much of my work revolves around visual language. I use figures of speech (mixed metaphors, contradictions,palidromes and clashing cliches) to describe the real and imagined". Chris Vine

3. Ian Taylor at The Slaughterhouse

Parephernalia: A group of articles,esp.as used in some activity; equipement; gear.
This work is assembled from'gear', objects re-worked into constructed moment, be it a hanging leap, or a fish in the beak.

Ian uses a diverse range of materials including stone wood, scrap metal and other found objects. His inspiration comes from a variety of sources including French sculptor Gaudier Bazeska and the three dimensonal work of Picasso.

very interesting posts there from ChrisG and ScouserDave. we are learning lots on this forum :celb (23):

Alex Corina (http://www.alexcorina.com/) just sent me this email which may be of interest to you Garstonians(?)


Dav, I visited Alex's Slaughter House a while back whilst the campaign the get the Lamb Banana to Garston was just begining, attended by Roger Philips (BBC):

http://static.flickr.com/103/298791675_eb214de788.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/298791675/)

http://static.flickr.com/114/298791712_33951ad489.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/298791712/)

http://static.flickr.com/122/298791822_3055d0c2da.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/298791822/)

http://static.flickr.com/111/298791859_18b9268174.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/298791859/)

http://static.flickr.com/101/298792051_dd38d4818d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/298792051/)

http://static.flickr.com/113/298791907_32f4e8b2d1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/298791907/)

http://static.flickr.com/118/298792012_4500df2a95.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/298792012/)

Hi Kev

I may have missed the news. Is Lambykins coming to Garston?

Chris

Hi Kev

I may have missed the news. Is Lambykins coming to Garston?

Chris

Havn't heard anything recently but the campaign was a good 12 months ago, probably more....

Just found out that this building which I knew as a hairdressers where my nan went religiously, used to be the original Garston Accident Hospital (before 1880). Granville Rd/Chapel Rd L19. It had 6 beds and was used mainly for the accidents as they occoured at the expanding Garston Docks.

http://static.flickr.com/112/269211144_b7380d0803.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/269211144/)

Just found out that this building which I knew as a hairdressers where my nan went religiously, used to be the original Garston Accident Hospital (before 1880). Granville Rd/Chapel Rd L19. It had 6 beds and was used mainly for the accidents as they occoured at the expanding Garston Docks.

http://static.flickr.com/112/269211144_b7380d0803.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/269211144/)

Hi Kev

Great that you found this out. A good piece of local history to know.

Chris

Garston is full of stuff like that.

I'm going pub searching on Friday and anyone know any good Garston pubs?

Unfortunately not!:eek:

The Derby, Masonic, Paletine, The Dealers, The Queens, any more?

The Derby, Masonic, Paletine, The Dealers, The Queens, any more?

That should do.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

GO DODSON!:celb (23):

Charity resurrects day a legend came to GarstonNov 27 2006
by Ben Searson, Daily Post

A LIVERPOOL charity is to relive the moment one of the best footballers in the world graced a local football pitch to help them raise funds.
In May, 1967, Ferenc Puskas, who died last week after a battle against Alzheimer's, flew into Liverpool Airport at the invitation of Bankfield House, a community centre until recently based in Banks Road, Garston.
The legendary Hungarian and Real Madrid player had accepted an invitation from the charity to play in a football game at Holly Park, the home of South Liverpool FC, against a team led by Liverpool FC and Scotland legend Billy Liddell.
The game attracted more than 10,000 spectators, some of whom could not even fit into the ground.
Now Bankfield House, which is currently homeless after losing its former base which now forms part of a housing development, is to remember the match in a four-day exhibition at Community House, Speke Road, Garston.
Brian Taylor, organiser of the event 39 years ago, and still the director of Bankfield House, said the match helped to raise £1,100, which today would be worth about £20,000.
He said: "At the time, we were having annual charity football matches to raise funds.
"I decided to try and liven it up a bit, which was tongue in cheek and I never expected any response from Puskas.
"After his death, we thought this might be an opportunity for the public to recall the day when he came to Garston. You can't imagine a professional player of his standard doing it these days.
He was the greatest footballer in the world. He changed football in this country altogether with that remarkable victory in 1953 when England were seen as the best football team.
"They had never been beaten at home, and Hungary came along and won 6-3."
When Puskas stepped from the aeroplane, he was greeted by Liverpool dignitaries including Alderman David Cowley, the deputy Lord Mayor.
The centrepiece of the display will be the telegraph sent from Puskas in response to the invitation to visit Garston, which read: "All I wait is you send me plane ticket."
The exhibition will be open to the public from tomorrow to Friday, December 1. It will be opened by Alan Waterworth, former Lord Lieutenant of Merseyside and a former patron of the charity.
The life and career of one of the world's greatest goalscorers

I read that, thanks. Pitty Bankfield House has been demolished :shock:

Great story Jimmy :)

Howcome Garston has a snooker hall and not Wavertree?:shock:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/269211296/in/set-72157594327508828

I love playing pool or snooker.:PDT_Piratz_26:

Garston Village today...

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/4571/20061221053yc7.jpg
St Mary's Road, Garston I hate to sart on a bad note, but in anyone's opinion, has Garston gone down since the New Mersey Opened? Something needs to be done here so that more buildings in what could be quite a pleasant village don't succumb to a similar fate. By Looking at this, I suspect that this building or even the whole row might soon get pulled down due to instability

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7341/20061221056uq5.jpg
St Mary's Road, GarstonThe Slaughter House, a great building which Kev posted a few pages back. This scene from today shows the building set amongst it's surroundings. It seems that this building was originally built of yellow pressed brick and was dressed with stone. Over the years, a few occupiers have painted the bricks red which completly changes it's appearence alltogether.

http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/3116/20061221059ho7.jpg
St Mary's Road, Garston Adom House has also previously been mentioned; This is one of a few great buildings that Garston has within it and is looking quite healthy too!

http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/8382/20061221065qm3.jpg
St Mary's Road, Garston Another Stone building can be found on St Mary's Road but I think that this was built by the Dockboard or some industry for office use. to me, this does look particually West Yorkshire-esque with it's yellow stone frontage (the other walls were brick) and it's well proportioned windows on the upper floor.

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5471/20061221067ed1.jpg
St Mary's Road, Garston To finish with, the old site of the Garston Hotel is already being built on. Didn't take long did it? :doubt:

Hope you enjoyed me images! I don't normally end up down this part of the city and so it made somewhat of a welcome change from the useral places that I go to!!!

Sadly Garston has not gone down the nick since New Mersey Retail - it has been in that state for YEARS - we have to look at that every day when we shop and no, we do not like it. It took 5 years for the council to demolish the shops (which they made the people vacate) opposite the Church. That section of buildings in the first picture has been like that for the last 16 years at least.

Garston Village today...St Mary's Road, Garston I hate to sart on a bad note, but in anyone's opinion, has Garston gone down since the New Mersey Opened? Something needs to be done here so that more buildings in what could be quite a pleasant village don't succumb to a similar fate. By Looking at this, I suspect that this building or even the whole row might soon get pulled down due to instability Hope you enjoyed me images! I don't normally end up down this part of the city and so it made somewhat of a welcome change from the useral places that I go to!!!

Thanks for the pictures they are brilliant. As sweetpatooti said its been like that for many many many years. Garston is a unique place full of clues to the past if you look for them but sadly many of the fine old buildings have been swept away. The first one u posted makes me wonder what this will eventually become.....

Its not all bad though, if u step away from St. Marys Rd down Heald Street, Wellington etc etc you almost take a trip back in time, its all good down there, then upto The park its lovely.

The flattening of the old empty bus station is a big step forward for Garston. I'd say it has benefited from the regeneration of the Speke Retail Park and long may it continue. Maybe the old site for the market will be built upon next.

As for the Garston Hotel, someone wasn't in a hurry to demolish it, but now its gone, its a hive of activity there.

Other areas of developments include the old Grahams Cartons, Earp Street that had been demolished too.

Oops, btw...

This is one of a few great buildings that Garston has...

Garston has many great buildings (IMO) but u need to search them out :)

Speke Retail park rules!:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

I like the part of Garston where it's nearer to Aigburth Vale.

Garston doesn't get any closer to Aigburth Vale than about Garston Old Road, though does it? :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Chris

Bite Your Tongue Chris! Garston begins at Aigburth Hall Road (by the Cricket Club):Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:

Bite Your Tongue Chris! Garston begins at Aigburth Hall Road (by the Cricket Club):Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:

Isn't that the start of Cressington?

Bite Your Tongue Chris! Garston begins at Aigburth Hall Road (by the Cricket Club):Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:

Yes well maybe! The land where Stanlaw Grange stands near the junction of Aigburth Hall Avenue was granted to the monks of Stanlaw Abbey near Ellesmere Port by Adam de Gerstan. Also my grandparents home telephone number for their house at 76 Aigburth Hall Avenue was Garston 1777, later changed to Cressington Park 1777. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Chris

The recently built PC World as used in there latest adverts:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/146/330926764_767614a4ae.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/330926764/)
New houses were once The Red Lion used to be, one of Garston's oldest buildings, gone.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/330924826_c55f906db9.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/330924826/)
Houses were once the Bus Station used to be
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/134/330924335_74e25be112.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/330924335/)
Were the old Kwick Save used to be until recently
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/153/330924508_7a3c005a71.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/330924508/)
We'll wait and see about this one
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/132/330924686_ee98590c70.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/330924686/)

I took a few more pics of Garston area and found some little gems:

The Old Dairy:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/146/330926368_20f7b9e17d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/330926368/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/147/330926461_dc1a7fb2c0.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/330926461/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/124/330926531_dd767a3fe8.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/330926531/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/153/330926581_734429bde8.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/330926581/)

I don't know the name of this, I'm sure it used to be my old nursery.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/151/330926291_d1ce02a46f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/330926291/)

The Slaughter House:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/330925409_ff276fdd8b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/330925409/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/137/330925487_a0fba7c062.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/330925487/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/133/330925256_7a0086440c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/330925256/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/132/330924928_8d9c9a261f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/330924928/)

The Garston Pubs pics can be found here (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showpost.php?p=30247&postcount=58). :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Hi Kev

Fine photographs, Kev. In addition to the animal heads thread we may wish to begin a local datestones thread as well. In addition to the one you show I can think of a number of other dates on various buildings, including the long "built by Edward Norris 1598" inscription over the front door of Speke Hall and the 1605 datestone over the garden door at the back of the hall, the Legs of Man 1593 datestone that I saw years ago in an airing cupboard at Leasowe Castle when it was still a convalescent home before the castle became a hotel, etc.

Chris

Hi Kev

Fine photographs, Kev. In addition to the animal heads thread we may wish to begin a local datestones thread as well.

Chris

What a brilliant idea Chris :PDT_Piratz_26:. Lets do it!!!!!

Isn't that the start of Cressington?

Theres a sign by the Cricket Club that says City of Liverpool Garston.

Theres a sign by the Cricket Club that says City of Liverpool Garston.

Is that one of the new signs?
There's loads in the wrong place, but the Cricket Club sounds about right for Garston.
Grassendale and Cressington are part of Garston.

Theres a sign by the Cricket Club that says City of Liverpool Garston.

Hi Max

Now that you mention it, I believe that sign has been there for some time, hasn't it? :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

It might have been easier for Mrs. Maybrick, living on Riversdale Road, to have written in her autobiography Mrs. Maybrick's Own Story: My Lost Fifteen Years (Funk and Wagnall's, New York and London, 1905) that she lived in Garston. It actually says she lived in "Aigworth" [sic]. That might have been a typo but I often think she might have written it that way. Specifically it states p. 21, "For business reasons we settled in a suburb of Liverpool called Aigworth."

Chris

The new houses on the Red Lion site have the worst window-ledges I've seen...a line of bricks that aren't level, plus some still have the mortar holes showing.

Kev, thanks for these fine photographs of Garston. Certainly some major changes going on. Merry Christmas Kev to you and yours.

Kev, thanks for these fine photographs of Garston. Certainly some major changes going on. Merry Christmas Kev to you and yours.

Thanks Jimmy, all the best mate :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

I showed me dad some images of the houses being built next to ABP's; he couldn't get over how silly it all is. Who ever goes and lives in those new houses will have to be able to get on with the noise comming from the Port both during the day and at night. When I was there, there was certainly some activity going on there, and Garston Dock can get pretty busy at times.

I wonder how much those houses will be sold for once completed???

All the best to everyone this Christmas Eve

Russ

I showed me dad some images of the houses being built next to ABP's; he couldn't get over how silly it all is. Who ever goes and lives in those new houses will have to be able to get on with the noise comming from the Port both during the day and at night. When I was there, there was certainly some activity going on there, and Garston Dock can get pretty busy at times.

I wonder how much those houses will be sold for once completed???

All the best to everyone this Christmas Eve

Russ

The Cressington Heath devel?

They are proving very popular as are the ones in Garston Village, many young adults buying the Garston Village ones.

'Boxing Day morning here in NZ, so I'm taking it easy after having all the family here for Christmas Dinner! Hope all you 'Scousers' are still enjoying your Christmas Day, and may I add my Best Wishes to ALL on this 'Great Site'! Enjoy the holiday, and have a great New Year.

PS. Keep that Garston Thread going Kev!!! Love all the Pics.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

'Boxing Day morning here in NZ, so I'm taking it easy after having all the family here for Christmas Dinner! Hope all you 'Scousers' are still enjoying your Christmas Day, and may I add my Best Wishes to ALL on this 'Great Site'! Enjoy the holiday, and have a great New Year.

PS. Keep that Garston Thread going Kev!!! Love all the Pics.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

ta lar!

Mid-Dec 2006. Two shields on this building state 'Constabulary Station'.

Mid-Dec 2006. Two shields on this building state 'Constabulary Station'.

Thanks Marky, I've used that place often for car parts and never noticed the details above :PDT_Piratz_26:

As a new member of this site, I was pleased to see so much concern being expressed about the need to record Garston's past social history. The Garston and District Local History Society is actively recording people's memories and would welcome the opportunity to publish these for you in booklet form. The society meets monthly at Island Rd Methodist Church, now called Garston Park Church. The first meeting of 2007 is on Jan 12th at 7.30pm and the next after that on Feb 2nd , again at 7.30pm. I would encourage those who can to attend the meetings.

I have an interest in the development of the Copper Industry in Garston which dates from the mid 1860s with the transfer of the original site at Seacombe to Garston by John Bibby and Sons. If anyone has any relatives who may have worked at the Copper works (closed 1936), I'd be pleased to hear from you. Many of the original workers came from Wales and were housed in Brunswick St (the back to front houses). The " Banky" was in fact originally the Copper Works manager's house.

Welcome to Yo
I went to their last exhibition/event at the Church, which was very informative, my family appear in the Garston book Pg 84 and my mum is in the special edition newsletter that they published in Sept 2002, I believe a woman in the photo, also owns the photo is a member of G&DHS. I have contact with one or two members of G&DHS on a number of sites that I visit.
You will find a number of members on this forum have links with Garston and a number still live there.

As a new member of this site, I was pleased to see so much concern being expressed about the need to record Garston's past social history. The Garston and District Local History Society is actively recording people's memories and would welcome the opportunity to publish these for you in booklet form. The society meets monthly at Island Rd Methodist Church, now called Garston Park Church. The first meeting of 2007 is on Jan 12th at 7.30pm and the next after that on Feb 2nd , again at 7.30pm. I would encourage those who can to attend the meetings.

I have an interest in the development of the Copper Industry in Garston which dates from the mid 1860s with the transfer of the original site at Seacombe to Garston by John Bibby and Sons. If anyone has any relatives who may have worked at the Copper works (closed 1936), I'd be pleased to hear from you. Many of the original workers came from Wales and were housed in Brunswick St (the back to front houses). The " Banky" was in fact originally the Copper Works manager's house.

Welcome to the forum, Taffy.

The book on Garston that your society was involved in - is it still available?

I've read it from the library, but I'd love my own copy.

Hello Taffy! I would be interested in anything you might write about the Copper Works in Garston, I believe my Grandfather died whilst working there many years ago, (prior to my birthdate of 1932) Grandparents came from North Wales, and settled in Garston, can't say when sorry, and unfortunatly I know very little about their early years there. The surname was Davies. I wish you well with your research, and Welcome to this great site. I do have the book 'Garston' put out by the Historical Society, I think it's 'Great' I even appear in one of the photo's (top picture on page 103) unfortunatly the info given is incorrect! the party was a VE or VJ day party in 1945, not 1951.

Welcome to the forum, Taffy.

The book on Garston that your society was involved in - is it still available?

I've read it from the library, but I'd love my own copy.

Saw this book in W H Smith on the retail park in Speke (yesterday) - Margaret and Bernard Brett and the Garston Historical Society - if it is the same one.

Welcome to the forum, Taffy.

The book on Garston that your society was involved in - is it still available?

I've read it from the library, but I'd love my own copy.

The book is called The archive photographs series GARSTON
published by The Chalford Publishing Co
ISBN 0-7524-0676-0
Priced £9.99

Saw this book in W H Smith on the retail park in Speke (yesterday) - Margaret and Bernard Brett and the Garston Historical Society - if it is the same one.

Between my posting and Sweetpatooti thats Yo teamwork :)

Great response.

Thanks, everybody.

As a new member of this site, I was pleased to see so much concern being expressed about the need to record Garston's past social history. The Garston and District Local History Society is actively recording people's memories ......

A warm welcome from me taffy - as a proud Garston resident I'm keen raise the positive profile of our fine village and wider Garston area. Thanks for your support and I hope you stay with us :)

Between my posting and Sweetpatooti thats Yo teamwork :)

:PDT_Piratz_26:

Great response.

Thanks, everybody.

Yes, many thanks.

Welcome to the forum, Taffy.

The book on Garston that your society was involved in - is it still available?

I've read it from the library, but I'd love my own copy.

Yes, available from bookshops. It's called " Images of England Garston" published by Tempus Publishing. It seems it was one of their best selling local history books and was reprinted several times. The book is also avialble from the Garston Local History Society at their meetings where they aslo sell many other booklets and indeed a video about Garston.

Hello Taffy! I would be interested in anything you might write about the Copper Works in Garston, I believe my Grandfather died whilst working there many years ago, (prior to my birthdate of 1932) Grandparents came from North Wales, and settled in Garston, can't say when sorry, and unfortunatly I know very little about their early years there. The surname was Davies. I wish you well with your research, and Welcome to this great site. I do have the book 'Garston' put out by the Historical Society, I think it's 'Great' I even appear in one of the photo's (top picture on page 103) unfortunatly the info given is incorrect! the party was a VE or VJ day party in 1945, not 1951.


Thanks for this. I'll mention the error to Margaret and Bernard Brett !!! Usually such a mistake comes from the provider of the photograph, not the editors. If you could let me have more info about your Davies family, I'll see what I can look up for you. Reply via Private corrspondence

Is that one of the new signs?
There's loads in the wrong place, but the Cricket Club sounds about right for Garston.
Grassendale and Cressington are part of Garston.

With all these definitions of what is Garston, like all things it depends on who you talk to !!! Elsewhere on this site , you'll see photos of boundary markers for Garston on Rose Lane, Mossley Hill., Also Ashfield Rd, Aigburth

So we have the original township of Garston which merged with the City of Liverpool around the turn of the 20th C and what is now called Garston. The township boundaries stretch from the old Bryant and May Match Works all the way to essentially Ashfield Rd. The other township boundary is roughly the railway line running through Mossley Hill Station and the mid point of the River Mersey.

The council's new district signs across Liverpool seem to have been based on post code boundaries and are mainly in the wrong place historically. Those for Allerton are a classic case of mis siting. I would suspect most people these days would distinguish Garston from Grassendale but where does Grassendale end and Garston begin. One definition is the parish boundary for St Mary's Grassendale. It may surprise some to know that this includes Hartington Rd in what many would call Garston. So all in all I prefer to use the original township boundaries to define Garston as these have an historical basis going back several hundred years. On this basis , St Matthew and James Church Mossley Hill was built in Garston. Indeed this was a stipulation of the will of Matthew James Glenton who provided the money to build the church in the mid 1870s.

There seems to be a discussion about two different books.
Norm do you know any of the families from Pg 84 VJ day 1945 ?

There seems to be a discussion about two different books.
Norm do you know any of the families from Pg 84 VJ day 1945 ?

Hi John, The book I have is the same as the ISBN No. you quoted previously.
I lived in "The Tennies' (Speke Rd Gardens) at the time so afraid I cant recognise anyone on either of the two picturs on page 84, but I'm sure I would have known some of them from local schools. I can certainly name some of the families on the page 103 top picture.

To Taffy! Thanks for reply Taff! I'l get in touch with you once I compile more info. Regards Norm.

GARSTON Police Station, one of the oldest in Liverpool, faces permanent closure after a shock survey revealed few members of the public ever use it.

The threat to the future of the Victorian station in Heald Street, off St Mary’s Road, has been made in a letter from Merseyside Police Liverpool South commander Andy Cooke., who has announced a public consultation on the closure proposal before any decision.

Last night, former Lord Mayor Cllr Ron Gould said he expected public uproar about the plan.

The first reaction is expected tonight at a meeting of the city council’s Garston Neighbourhood Committee, at the Speke Community Centre, at 5.30pm.

Chief Supt Cooke has been invited to expand on the role and future of Garston Police Station. continues (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpooldailypost/news/regionalnews/tm_headline=police-station-may-be-shut%26method=full%26objectid=18384711%26siteid=50 061-name_page.html).....

Quick, Kev, take some photos while it's still a cop shop. :)

I might go and ask if I can get inside and take a few, seems they have plenty of time on their hands :rolleyes:

Mmmm, interesting. Keep us posted on any news about his please Kev. Thanks sausage.

"Chief Supt Cooke said that the number of members of the public calling at Garston Police Station’s inquiry office was extremely low"
No reason to close it.
Kev, just walk in there and snap away. It's not like you'll get arrested!:rolleyes:

A CAMPAIGN has been launched to save one of Liverpool's oldest police stations from closure. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=don%2Dt-close-our-cop-shop%26method=full%26objectid=18398362%26siteid=50 061-name_page.html)

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Is this you Kev. Graffiti spotted on wall in Blackburne St Garston

Is this you Kev. Graffiti spotted on wall in Blackburne St Garston

Certainly not :PDT10

What Is a Kev rat?

It's not Kev before he turned 30 Is It?:Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:

Brilliant pics taffy..Well done mate.

Great pics, Taffy. Sad to see such a fine building go though. :(

Chris

Is that the building that used to be open for changing rooms etc when I did all those 'Up the shore' and 'Devil's gallop' road races throughout the 80s and 90s?

Is that the building that used to be open for changing rooms etc when I did all those 'Up the shore' and 'Devil's gallop' road races throughout the 80s and 90s?
that's the one mate, a real shame it's gone.Was a great thing for the kids of the area.

It is indeed, t'was a fine old building.

that's the one mate, a real shame it's gone.Was a great thing for the kids of the area.

I remember being a kids there in the 80's and going in only a few occasions, mostly to play footy out the back, of course it was in a bad condition back then.

I remember being a kids there in the 80's and going in only a few occasions, mostly to play footy out the back, of course it was in a bad condition back then.
It was mostly pool, table tennis, cards and arts and drama as wellas outdoor sports and camping trips, Really good mix of local and nationwide mix of youth workers who were really dedicated. A place of good memories.

photo taken of the Window Lane/ Ultonia St area undergoing demolition and rebuild.

Oh dear....

A former parish treasurer has been questioned by police investigating £100,000 allegedly missing from a Liverpool church's accounts.

Janet Crossett, 36, has resigned from her position at St Michael's Church in Garston, after she was arrested on suspicion of theft.

She has been bailed until April while the investigation continues.

The Archdeacon of Liverpool, Ricky Panter, said the diocese was co-operating with the police. continues (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/6361803.stm)....

Oh dear....

A former parish treasurer has been questioned by police investigating £100,000 allegedly missing from a Liverpool church's accounts.

....

Looks like they won't be getting their roof repaired now. This might prove to be the last straw for the Church as their vicar is not being replaced and they are being merged into a team ministry with All Souls, Springwood, Allerton, and St Mary, Grassendale. Very sad that this should happen to such a venerable old church.

A LIVERPOOL community centre may close if it does not win lifeline funding.

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Urban Village Hall officials in Garston have been having urgent talks with Liverpool council about its struggling finances.

The Banks Road centre, visited by an estimated 60,000 people every year, holds a huge range of facilities including toddlers groups, tai chi classes, sequence dancing, pensioners’ lunches and football, handball and judo classes.

Including my doctors...

It could be the second community facility in Garston to close, after Bankfield House shut last year.

Today it was revealed staff at the Urban Village Hall have been operating on a shoestring budget for years. continues (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=cash-crisis-community-centre-in-%2Dpound%2D30%2D000-battle-to-stay-open%26method=full%26objectid=18624692%26siteid=50 061-name_page.html)...

Sad news! in both cases, but it stirs a lot of memories! I remember the start of fundraising for the Youth Centre for Garston, shortly after the war ended, The Garston Carnival was one such event, and I remember my mum paying 2/6 pence every friday to a collector from the church. At that time the church had provided a beautiful coloured brochure showing what the centre was to look like, and that it was to be built on the site of the Jubilee Institute in King Street, I remember the artists impression of it, it looked somthing like the Gaumont Cinema facade, but sadly it never eventuated! and I remember the disapointment I felt when I first saw Bankfield House either late 70s or early 80s. I wonder if that brochure still exists in some archive somewhere? It would certainly be interesting to compare it with todays events.:PDT_Xtremez_12:

A LIVERPOOL community centre may close if it does not win lifeline funding.

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Urban Village Hall officials in Garston have been having urgent talks with Liverpool council about its struggling finances.

The Banks Road centre, visited by an estimated 60,000 people every year, holds a huge range of facilities including toddlers groups, tai chi classes, sequence dancing, pensioners’ lunches and football, handball and judo classes.

Including my doctors...

It could be the second community facility in Garston to close, after Bankfield House shut last year.

Today it was revealed staff at the Urban Village Hall have been operating on a shoestring budget for years. continues (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=cash-crisis-community-centre-in-%2Dpound%2D30%2D000-battle-to-stay-open%26method=full%26objectid=18624692%26siteid=50 061-name_page.html)...

Er.... and were do we vote in the local and national elections if this place closes, Kev?

:disgust:

Many will know the area around the Garston Docks is being demolished and rebuilt. This will be a mix of social and private housing. The place looks very forlorn at the moment. Let's hope a new community spirit rapidly develops itself in this area.

Much of Window Lane was built in the typical Yellow Ruabon Brick much favoured by the Welsh building companies. The name Window refers to old field names in the area

The series Lillies was based on a fictitious street amongst the streets you have snapped....shame they are going. It would have been nice to have those (Lucania/ Campania) restored.

Great things will become of the area I'm sure, just watching the work daily gives me hope. The Village is looking boss where the old bus station used to be as the apartments are being finished. There has also been some movement in the neglected shops opposite the Sommerfield recently.

Building should start on the Bankfield House site which has been cleared. Old Grahams Cartons is being built upon, Garston Hotel flats are coming along nicely and opposite that they seem to be doing a restoration job on Seddon House which can only be a good thing.

Next....old Garston Market :PDT11

The pics are great, cheers.

Whats to become of the woodies?

Thanks for the great pics, Taffy! The pictures are sad and I still have to wonder why they had to demolish the area wholesale. I share your hopes for the regeneration of the community.

Chris

Thanks for the great pics, Taffy! The pictures are sad and I still have to wonder why they had to demolish the area wholesale. I share your hopes for the regeneration of the community.

Chris

Garston 'Under The Bridge' has always had a tough image and reputation, the buildings neglected for many decades and people too especially when I was growing up in the 80's, despite the strong community down there. I think those factors, along with many others brought about the mass demolition of the streets.

The Ghettooooooo side of Garston.:shock:

What part of Garston did ye grow up In Kev?

The Ghettooooooo side of Garston.:shock:

What part of Garston did ye grow up In Kev?

Grassendale or Cressington?

I dunno, that part of Garston once you go past the bridge Is Ghetto looking.

It would toughen Kev up.:PDT10

I dunno, that part of Garston once you go past the bridge Is Ghetto looking.

It would toughen Kev up.:PDT10

Max,

Would you like me to post some of my Wavertree "ghetto" photos to balance the image you have of Garston

Taffy

The Ghettooooooo side of Garston.:shock:

What part of Garston did ye grow up In Kev?

By the Park, Island Rd area

That sounds like a pot-kettle-black argument. Garston under the bridge is one of the most run down areas of the city until you get to the rather dull new builds at the old airport end of Banks Road. Fortunately it's having a change in fortune with rows of tinned up houses being pulled down. I hope it doesn't end up full of soulless cul-de-sacs like parts of L8 and Vauxhall.

I was in PC world the other day and I saw all the new developments near the site of the old baths (bland but better than dereliction). Overall, it feels as though Garston has turned a corner. It's an interesting place with a great history. In terms of city wide statistics it has more in common with north Liverpool (in terms of health, mortality, wealth, children going to uni etc.) than the rest of south Liverpool.

Max,

Would you like me to post some of my Wavertree "ghetto" photos to balance the image you have of Garston

Taffy

Hahah, go on.:PDT_Piratz_26:

It's mostly up Lawerence and Picton Road area thats like that.

Email from Alex Corina today:
"Good news! after waiting for what seems forever we have the keys to the school in Wellington Street Garston soon to become the Garston Palace and the Centre For the Arts and Creative Industries in Garston. The Building is generally in very good condition. We are hoping for a formal agreement with the council soon.

We have arranged a viewing of the building by schools and local creative businesses so we can begin to finalise plans for the space and take into account respective needs.The viewing is planned for Thursday 22nd March at 4-30pm Wellington Street school and Multi-Purpose Centre Wellington Street Garston"

"Many Thanks to you Taffy, for the Window Lane photo's! Hope you don't mind but I've 'downloaded' the one of Haughton & Lappins old shop! private reasons for doing so!! memories of past life!! Ta!:PDT11

"Many Thanks to you Taffy, for the Window Lane photo's! Hope you don't mind but I've 'downloaded' the one of Haughton & Lappins old shop! private reasons for doing so!! memories of past life!! Ta!:PDT11

No problem, Norm.

It's a shame that the local yobs decided to torch that part of the block. The local hairdresser had planned to move in but now she's moving to the shop next door. Her premises further along Window Lane are due for demolition

IN its heyday, it was the beating heart of Garston but now the once-bustling St Mary’s Road has fallen on hard times.

The arrival of the Garston Way bypass took away passing trade and while a hardy band of dedicated shopkeepers battle on, the street has never really recovered.

But now there is a new plan and fresh hope for St Mary’s Road.

A unique scheme for a “cultural village” in a former school building in Wellington Street is being touted as the catalyst to restore pride to the street.

Artist Alex Corina (http://www.alexcorina.com/), the brains behind the proposal, wants to bring creative businesses like jewellers, ceramicists and designers to the centre.

Once established, they would start taking over empty shops in St Mary’s Road to sell their wares, under a “Made In Garston” label

Supporters believe it would turn Garston into a destination for culture vultures, with a shopping experience different to anywhere else in Merseyside.

This month Mr Corina showed more than 40 people from schools, creative businesses and art organisations around the Wellington Street building.

While the current St Mary’s Road has boarded-up shops and derelict pubs, the hope is to revitalise it through the cultural village, renaming the businesses’ Wellington Street home “Garston Palace”.

He said: “This is the right building for us and the support is there from the community and creative businesses.

“We are looking at bringing contemporary crafts, jewellers, ceramicists, digital designers, and people who sell arts and crafts to Garston.

“Workshops and studios could be hired out to artists and craftspeople who do not have their own workspace.

“And there are 10 schools in Garston which can use part of the building for art lessons.”

The cultural village proposal is already gathering support from locals, who hope it will revive St Mary’s Road’s flagging fortunes.

Mike Axworthy, from Garston community council, said: “I think it is a great idea and will obviously boost the area’s regeneration.

“It is already having a small effect - a couple of new shops have opened recently and people must be thinking this is a good area to invest in.

“It will give a completely different impression of the area. Rather than assuming it is finished, people will think it has a future.

“We have lost a couple of historic buildings recently, like Bankfield House and the Garston Hotel, but this would bring one back into use.”

Peter Gibbons, head teacher at Gilmour junior school, said: “The possibilities of what could be achieved with this building are endless.

“It would certainly provide space for schools. At the moment, we cannot do big art projects because we just do not have the room. It would be tremendous to have access to somewhere like this.”

Speke-Garston councillor Colin Strickland said: “The dereliction and rot that has set in on St Mary’s Road must be tackled.

“The cultural village plan could well breathe new life into our community, but the council must give it the support it deserves.”

The cultural village’s backers are now hoping to seal a deal with Liverpool council giving them long-term access to the Wellington Street building.

John Ashton, chairman of the board of trustees, said: “We need the council to sort out the arrangements for this building with us so we can start using it.

“This is a fantastic example of what Capital of Culture should be about, and by giving us support, the council would demonstrate how it is engaging with its communities.”

A council spokesman said: “They have expressed an interest in this building, but we are waiting for them to come forward with a business plan before a decision can be made.”

nick.coligan@liverpool.com

I do prefer made In Garston writen on a product over made In China writing anyway.

I do prefer made In Garston writen on a product over made In China writing anyway.

Sony's new camera is made in garston :PDT10

Which one and where In Garston?

Wavertree has a technology park to make things too.:PDT10

THE first new homes in Garston’s rebuilt Under The Bridge estate should be ready in the autumn. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=%2Dpound%2D50m-homes-on-target-for-estate%26method=full%26objectid=18808634%26siteid= 50061-name_page.html)

RESIDENTS are being asked for their views on how the proceeds of the sale of a Garston community centre should be spent. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=bankfield-sale-to-help-community%26method=full%26objectid=18808636%26site id=50061-name_page.html)

ARCHAEOLOGISTS are set to investigate the site of an 800-year-old mill in Garston. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=dig-to-find-water-mill-lost-in-time%26method=full%26objectid=18808643%26siteid=50 061-name_page.html)

2,000 jobs joy at matchworks (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=2%2D000-jobs-joy-at-matchworks%26method=full%26objectid=18808663%26sit eid=50061-name_page.html)

The Echo gone Garston mad today,you haven't got a new job have you Kev?:p

http://youtube.com/watch?v=d0_mo285U_s

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zmVFnhO3A98

The under the bridge song.:PDT10

The Echo gone Garston mad today,you haven't got a new job have you Kev?:p

lol, they've even set up a Garston News page too, wonder how long that'll last? Some very positive news today, Bryant and May especially, I'll try and get to the excavaion of the mill.

I've deliberatly left out the stabbing story, didn't want to discuss it much but its terrible. I drive past the house every morning. Not a road you would associate with these things.

Aye positive news only,life's depressing enough sometimes.Garston really seems to be going places now which is great.:PDT11

Aye positive news only,life's depressing enough sometimes.Garston really seems to be going places now which is great.:PDT11

Here's another one.....

BAYEUX in France has a famous tapestry – and soon Garston could also have its own historic hanging.

The tapestry will tell the history of the area from the 1080s and the time of Adam de Gerstan in the 13th century to the salt works, docks and even the dolphins which swam in Garston pool in the 1970s.

It is the brainchild of the late Marjorie Whitehead, secretary of organisation Come Alive@55.

Carol Duerden, the charity’s development officer, said: “Marjorie went to Bayeux, saw the tapestry and thought ‘why can’t we have one of those?’.

“She was keen to tackle the history of Garston and was a great embroiderer and community worker.BAYEUX in France has a famous tapestry – and soon Garston could also have its own historic hanging.

“She was keen to tackle the history of Garston and was a great embroiderer and community worker. IC Liverpool

and another.....

BUTCHER Graham Chambers opened his store in St Mary’s Road in 1973, when there were 13 other butcher shops. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=hopes-for-a-renaissance%26method=full%26objectid=18808668%26si teid=50061-name_page.html)

Garston was named after a Frenchman?

He doesn't have a pub with his surname on so neeerrrr.:PDT10

Dear Friends

Phil Disley End Of Exhibition Party and Creative Investment Opportunity (Duke Street Garston)

If you haven't seen Phil Disley's work yet at the Slaughterhouse "The Ralph Steadman of our generation" Editor Financial Times. There is a last opportunity on Friday 30th March between 6 and 8pm at the Slaughterhouse.

There will also be an introduction to....

A Creative Idea from The Garston Bond Company (Come And Hear More)

A new creative idea for 24-26 Duke Street Garston. Currently a vacant building comprising former dairy, Conservative club and living accomodation.

Many of you will have visited 26 Duke Street Garston (the Conservative club bit) my former studio/gallery from where the Cultural Village campaign was launched in 2003.

In the spirit of the Garston Cultural Village Campaign the Garston Bond Company has been established to specifically build a project around creative individuals who have committed themselves to working in Garston designing a mechanism whereby artists and creatives involved can benefit directly from the fruits of their labours.

We are aiming to sell the building to the artists/creatives within five years. The attraction to me as an artist is also the affordable housing in the area. So an innovative and art focused Bond is being proposed.


For too long artists have created renewal and change by moving into city center properties only to be driven out by property price rises and speculators.

This is neither fair, nor just. Nor is it good in the run up to the capital of Culture when the challenge is to create long term regeneration in our communities through the arts and creative industries and not have just a transient creative community being moved from pillar to post by speculators then disappearing all together (probably in 2009).

I know of no similar project enabling artists to first rent then own there work spaces with the benefits that affords . We are looking for like minded friends and colleagues and supporters of the arts particularly in South Liverpool to join us in the refurbishment and development of these buildings

(We will plan a tour of the Buildings the following week)

Hope you can make it


Alex

Match Box

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Match Works 2

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Match Works

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Match Box

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I like this one, Kev. Fine pictures as ever.

Holy crap Kev, there godlike!

Everyone should buy Sony and this Is proof.

"I recognised the old water tower Kev! glad to see they've kept it! and the pics are great, but what is the place used for nowadays???

Holy crap Kev, there godlike!

Everyone should buy Sony and this Is proof.

Max, I do have a Sony! mine is a DSC S75, but I can't get pics as good as this! What am I doing wrong??:PDT_Xtremez_12:

Kev will know.

"I recognised the old water tower Kev! glad to see they've kept it! and the pics are great, but what is the place used for nowadays???

Jobs, jobs and more jobs....>> 2,000 jobs joy at matchworks (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=2%2D000-jobs-joy-at-matchworks%26method=full%26objectid=18808663%26sit eid=50061-name_page.html)

Plus just across the rd in Speke there are loads of new units just been built.

Good news about the jobs, Kev, and the possible benefit the injection of investment will have in helping to refurbish Garston.

A couple of questions.

You show a photo of the Match Box -- but what exactly is it? A so far empty building, or does it house companies already?

Also what are those round silver structures on the front of the old matchworks? I don't recall them from before (from going by on the 80 bus to Speke years ago), so I assume they must be new.

Thanks

Chris

You show a photo of the Match Box -- but what exactly is it? A so far empty building, or does it house companies already?


It isn't complete yet Chris, it looked so nice yesterday, I couldn't resist!


Also what are those round silver structures on the front of the old matchworks? I don't recall them from before (from going by on the 80 bus to Speke years ago), so I assume they must be new.

Thanks

Chris

I assume they are stairways/ fire exit stairs or something similar. They were added when the most recent restoration took place, about 8 years ago?