Moving to Liverpool

[Robert Boulter]

Hello to everyone on this forum.I currently live in North Wales with my wife and 4 kids.We are planning to move to either the Wirral or Liverpool in the near future and I'm hoping someone can help me.We looked at a house in Tuebrook which was ok,but we don't know the area.Could anyone offer some advice as to were we should look to find good schooling and transport links.Any help would be appreciated.Thanks in advance.

[hmtmaj]

Welcome to Yo. :PDT11

There are some very good areas of Liverpool and some not so good, you probably already know that.
I live in the Old Swan area and find it to be a good place, with shops of every sort, the M62 on the doorstep, buses to all directions.
I'm probably biased, but I'd say Old Swan. :)

Mart

[wsteve55]

Hello to everyone on this forum.I currently live in North Wales with my wife and 4 kids.We are planning to move to either the Wirral or Liverpool in the near future and I'm hoping someone can help me.We looked at a house in Tuebrook which was ok,but we don't know the area.Could anyone offer some advice as to were we should look to find good schooling and transport links.Any help would be appreciated.Thanks in advance.

Hi Rob,
Welcome to the site, and Liverpool! I work in the Tuebrook area, and it's a pretty mixed residential area, with good local amenities,shops,sports facilities,and Newsham park.Transport is good, but I couldn't say much about schools,except to say there seems to be quite a variety! (It's also near to Old Swan!:nod:)

[Kev]

Hi Robert, a warm welcome to the forum :PDT11

Don't u fancy the Allerton/ Garston area? Tell us a bit more about if u are bying/ renting.

Kev

[Cadfael]

Hello to everyone on this forum.I currently live in North Wales with my wife and 4 kids.We are planning to move to either the Wirral or Liverpool in the near future and I'm hoping someone can help me.We looked at a house in Tuebrook which was ok,but we don't know the area.Could anyone offer some advice as to were we should look to find good schooling and transport links.Any help would be appreciated.Thanks in advance.

Places on the Wirral are generally cheaper than over in Liverpool. :PDT11

[Ged]

Wirral's a big place though, there's the more expensive, posher West side on the Dee.

[Max]

I'd live in the South end of Liverpool but thats my preference. I find it easier to get to town from the South than the North and the roads are less congested from my end if you do drive or cycle to town(i cycle to town, drivings not worth it and i only live in Wavertree anyway). The roads are more straight too and less turns.

I'd live in Formby which is just outside Liverpool or live in Crosby though down tae north.

I like the Dee side of the Wirral and Port Sunlight and New Brighton but it's only good for a visit.

[Robert Boulter]

Hello again,been a bit busy hence the late reply,sorry about that.Its great to get some feedback.I currently work at the Toyota plant in Deeside so don't want to be traveling to far for work.My eldest daughter is going to John Moore University in September and my eldest some(who's taken a couple off years out) is also looking to go there next year,so it makes sense to move.Will be looking to buy something with at least 4 bedrooms for under ?180000.We have always found the people of Liverpool to be friendly and are looking forward to moving.The Wirral is nice but the wife prefers liverpool and we're both city people,theirs just something special about living in a city and after looking at your forum,their are some great people their.Any feedback about were too look would be much appreciated.here's looking forward to many good nights out(and days)

[Kev]

I'd advise moving to the south end, there are plenty of family residents in the allerton area.

[tracywheelchair]

Hi Robert Welcome to Yo. I maybe bias here but i think Walton area is good area for familys with its good transport links, lots of schools, shops and plenty of properties available to buy and rent. ;)

[Paddy]

I think Allerton Mossley Hill or Aigburth

[taffy]

Hello again,been a bit busy hence the late reply,sorry about that.Its great to get some feedback.I currently work at the Toyota plant in Deeside so don't want to be traveling to far for work.My eldest daughter is going to John Moore University in September and my eldest some(who's taken a couple off years out) is also looking to go there next year,so it makes sense to move.Will be looking to buy something with at least 4 bedrooms for under ?180000.We have always found the people of Liverpool to be friendly and are looking forward to moving.The Wirral is nice but the wife prefers liverpool and we're both city people,theirs just something special about living in a city and after looking at your forum,their are some great people their.Any feedback about were too look would be much appreciated.here's looking forward to many good nights out(and days)

Many students seem to live in south Liverpool in the Wavertree and Mossley Hill areas. So assuming your daughter is going to live at home, this would mean she would have other students to mix with in the same area. Property in south Liverpool can be expensive though. The area does give fairly quick access to Deeside, probably about 45 mins on a good traffic free day. Petrol travelling costs will be fairly high of course plus tunnel costs if you chose to go that way rather than Runcorn Bridge.

[Robert Boulter]

Well,I seem to be struggling to find out anything about Tuebrook.We quite liked the house we viewed last week,and I'm sure its a fairly decent part of the city.We are originally from the inner city parts of Leicester so should quickly settle down into city life again.I'm not too worried about the journey to work,its a good excuse to get my bike out(Yamaha fzr1000 exup.)Any bikers out their?Any how,the final decision will be from my other half anyway,so providing she approves of the schools,Liverpools ahead of the Wirral.Thanks for all your help and any further information would be greatly appreciated.

[krakatoa]

Check out L17, L18, L19

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find.html?locationIdentifier=OUTCODE%5E1350&minBedrooms=4&maxBedrooms=4&maxPrice=220000&radius=0.25&includeSSTC=true&_includeSSTC=on&index=10


They are asking 2007 prices, so reduce by 30% for a realistic price.

[ItsaZappathing]

My advice would be... stay out of Liverpool. Live on the outskirts it is often a nicer place to raise kids up in.:PDT11

[Paddy]

Frodsham is nice and you can get to Liverpool quite easy.:)

[Samp]

I notice you have mentioned Tuebrook twice in your posts.

Tuebrook is no better or worse than any parts of the inner city living areas. A conservation area, plenty of large houses, a good shopping area in the brook itself, a large park on the doorstep, a market twice a week, a good bus service into town, the usual number of churches you would find in such an area, a local police station, the usual compliment of criminals and scallywags as you will find in any area. Of course there are better areas the further out you go. Also if you have kids who will be going to university, the southern areas of the city do favour the academics and the arty types. I would suggest the Lark Lane area of Aigburth as a possible area if this is your choice.

'You pays your money and you gets your choice'

Good luck in findings and welcome to Liverpool!

[Robert Boulter]

Their are other things I have to consider when choosing were to live.My wife does'nt drive so good transport links are important,I have a new company car every year so off road parking is essential,I also have a motorbike and a classic Saab 900 convertible so a decent size garage/workshop(or room to build one would be usefull.Finding something that ticks all the boxes is almost impossible so a compromise has to be made.Living in the city does'nt bother me,I was brought up on a rough council estate,so I'm pretty well clued up on what goes on under the surface of a large city.I'm just looking for somewhere that is'nt really down at heel.Even In the worst areas of any city,most people are decent,only a small percentage of the population are rotten,if the Law was'nt so pathetic,we would'nt be having this conversation.Anyhow,all comments are greatfully recieved,looking forward to living in Liverpool and I'm sure with all of your help we will find a new home and make lots of new friends.

[Robert Boulter]

I'm back again,still have'nt moved.Hoping to look at a few of houses in Walton and West Derby on Monday.Kirkby seems to be quite a competitavely priced area to buy a property in,is their any reason for this.It seems to mostly new(ish) houses,would prefer something old(Victorian etc) but new would be ok if it was big enough.Also Huyton has posibilities.Looked at a large house in Bootle last week,was ok but next door was in a terrible state,shame really as this put the wife off completely.Anyone know what its like around Hartington Road,seen a decent house their and it is south,as has been recommended by many people.

[pablo42]

There's only one place to live. Wallasey. Handy for Deeside, handy for the City. Nice place. Liverpool's good too, but second best.

[George]

There's only one place to live. Wallasey. Handy for Deeside, handy for the City. Nice place.

Plazzy scouser's.

If your gonna quote over the river to live,try harder for a decent area like....Port Sunlight for instance. :rolleyes:

[George]

Walton Village,West Derby Village area, these are decent areas to live especially West Derby village.

[hmtmaj]

Plazzy scouser's.

If your gonna quote over the river to live,try harder for a decent area like....Port Sunlight for instance. :rolleyes:

Spot on George :handclap:
Live "Over the water", you must be having a laugh.

The Sunny Side of the street is best and that's "This side of the River" :PDT11
Mart

[pablo42]

Ha, nice one guys. Used to live in Kensington and Toxteth. Not exactly a plastic scouser. I probably live closer to the Liver Buildings than most in Liverpool. My view from my window is the Pier Head.

[wsteve55]

I'm back again,still have'nt moved.Hoping to look at a few of houses in Walton and West Derby on Monday.Kirkby seems to be quite a competitavely priced area to buy a property in,is their any reason for this.It seems to mostly new(ish) houses,would prefer something old(Victorian etc) but new would be ok if it was big enough.Also Huyton has posibilities.Looked at a large house in Bootle last week,was ok but next door was in a terrible state,shame really as this put the wife off completely.Anyone know what its like around Hartington Road,seen a decent house their and it is south,as has been recommended by many people.

Hartington rd, is near to Liverpools largest park,Sefton,near a fairly busy shopping area(Smithdown rd/Penny lane) and only a 15/20 minute bus ride to the city centre.Slightly studenty/alternative,(at least when I lived there!)with some good pub's and restaurants.

[burkhilly]

Thought I'd put my two pennyworth in. Parts of Tuebrook are great, but others are to be avoided. Everyone thinks their area is the best I know loads of people who live in Tuebrook, and they wouldn't live anywhere else. It's the same for all parts of the city.

Like Martin I live in Old Swan and would recommend it to anyone. Green Lane has a number of streets off it (Green Lane runs between Old Swan and Tuebrook) with some of the houses being four bedroomed: Guernsay and Portlet Road both have four bedroomed houses. These are solid communities who tend to welcome newcomers. I note that a number of posters have recommended Aigburth and the south side of the city. Again there is a great community spirit but the houses do tend to be more expensive.

Best of luck in your househunting - I'm sure you'll "just know" when you have got the right house.

[Kev]

It's also the right time to move as house prices are very low at the moment and as me and Mrs Kev have just recently found out!

[Ged]

Did you find that out whilst looking or whilst getting your house valued. It's all relative isn't it. When your house is worth many thousands more than you know is right, so is everything else :)

[lindylou]

Thought I'd put my two pennyworth in. Parts of Tuebrook are great, but others are to be avoided. Everyone thinks their area is the best I know loads of people who live in Tuebrook, and they wouldn't live anywhere else. It's the same for all parts of the city.

Like Martin I live in Old Swan and would recommend it to anyone. Green Lane has a number of streets off it (Green Lane runs between Old Swan and Tuebrook) with some of the houses being four bedroomed: Guernsay and Portlet Road both have four bedroomed houses. These are solid communities who tend to welcome newcomers. I note that a number of posters have recommended Aigburth and the south side of the city. Again there is a great community spirit but the houses do tend to be more expensive.

Best of luck in your househunting - I'm sure you'll "just know" when you have got the right house.

Burkhilly you are right, Tuebrook has gone a bit down at heel - although not too bad around the Burns roads, but that's about all. Many of the other roads off West Derby have become 'flat land' and looking a tad shabby to what it used to be. There are roads that I would definately avoid. Shame really as Tuebrook was a good area.

I agree with you that Guernsay & Portlet are both good. I like those roads :PDT11

[Kev]

Did you find that out whilst looking or whilst getting your house valued. It's all relative isn't it. When your house is worth many thousands more than you know is right, so is everything else :)

exactly ged, 12 months ago it was worth 15K more than it is now.

[Robert Boulter]

Went to Kirkby today to view a couple of houses and take a look around.My wife liked one of the houses quite a lot,and I liked the price.Can anyone give me a heads up about Kirkby,whats it like to live their? Would be grateful for any info,thinking about putting an offer in tomorrow.

[burkhilly]

Depends what part of Kirkby, going out towards Melling is okay, and some of the houses near the Town Centre. I worked in Kirkby for years, and knew a lot of people. They love Kirkby and wouldn't live anywhere else. Personally I wouldn't like to live there, but this is personal choice and not an insult to any Kirkbyittes reading this.

[lindylou]

Yeah, going towards Melling way is nice.
I don't know much about Kirkby so I can't say much, but we do pass through that way quite a lot and it looks ok when you go down past the train station.
There's plenty of facilities there isn't there, and a good shopping centre.

[George]

Kirby is an estate...whatelse can you expect from council built estates,but there are decent house that are not part of the estate ie they're on the perimeter of the kirby estate.

[ItsaZappathing]

Kirby is a dodgy place to move to . Sorry but it is. I know a few people who live there and well lets just say...You definately have to know your f's and c's. :PDT_Xtremez_42:

[Robert Boulter]

The house we liked was on the littledale estate,it looked pretty decent.

[wsteve55]

Kirby is where many "real" scousers",from Scotty, were decanted to,in the late 50's,early 60's,and that's what many locals will tell you! It's many moons, since I was up that way,but older Kirby (Southdene,etc)seemed quite settled,when I was,and it was the newer Tower Hill estate,which attracted the bad publicity! I can't remember the last time I read anything specifically bad,about the place,but there's probably the same,if not better, low level crime,etc,as there is anywhere,in Merseyside,or elsewhere! Give it a go :nod:

[scouse smurf]

If u haven't already, u'd be better talking to ur potential neighbours. Can introduce urself, get to know them and find out if there'll be a personality clash and I'm sure as long as they're not the 'bad' neighbour type they'll be honest with u as to what the area is like.

[AngelCake]

Kirby is where many "real" scousers",from Scotty, were decanted to,in the late 50's,early 60's,and that's what many locals will tell you!

What is a "real scouser":shock:?! I feel confused now but nothing new there:unibrow:

[wsteve55]

What is a "real scouser":shock:?! I feel confused now but nothing new there:unibrow:

Dont get confused Angel, it's probably just a myth perpetuated by people like Margie Clark,or "Margox" as she was known at one time! My lot got sent up there,but then,there were no shops, only "mobiles",so my Ma' wasn't having it, and we went to Kirkdale!

[pablo42]

I lived in Kirkby when I was a kid. Ever been to Belfast? It's like that. I'm not coneming Belfast or Kirkby, it's very tight.

[Robert Boulter]

Back onto this old topic,whilst looking around the Walton area,we found a nice house in Orrell park and are hoping someone can let us know what this area is like.The Kirkby house we looked at was the most suitable one we've see so far, but we were put off by the schools,no disrespect to anyone from Kirkby,were as the nearest high school to Orrell park is quite good (if the Ofsted report is anything to go by), the transport links into Liverpool are very good and the local shopping is also very good.Anyhow,would love to hear your views.

[wsteve55]

Seems a pretty good area,for the reasons you state,and you dont see it mentioned in the "Echo" much,so it appears good,from a crime/scal' perspective!?!

[lindylou]

Orrell Park is a good option. There are lots of good roads with some lovely houses - all different types; average terrace, small semis, large Victorian, depending on what you can afford. There are some lovely houses around Kingfield, Stanley gardens, Chatsworth, etc.
Orrell Park is ideal for transport links and shops. It's one of the areas I would look at.

[ItsaZappathing]

Orrell Park...bad idea!!!
Take it from someone who knows like me,. It's Walton and Rice lane gangs there.Just down the road is the Rice Lane wreck (a large field). This is used as an escape route onto the old railway line (transpenine route).

The problem here is people giving you advice when they don't really know what they're on about.
How many of the people giving advice have actually "hung around" an area long enough to know what it's like. ?

If you like the Orrell park area then I suggest Longmoor Lane. Reason......
long main road,nice houses and very rarely any trouble.

Job's a good un':PDT_Piratz_26:

[Robert Boulter]

We seem to be getting mixed reviews about all the areas I have mentioned,but it usually comes down to finances in the end,and we can't afford to live in the most desirable areas.I think gang problems a problem everywhere these days,I can't do anything about that,but I would like to be in an area that has good schools and transport links.At the end of the day,my wife will have the final say and we still have'nt managed to sell our own house yet,may need to reduce the price again(anyone fancy a move to sunny Rhyl).

[wsteve55]

We seem to be getting mixed reviews about all the areas I have mentioned,but it usually comes down to finances in the end,and we can't afford to live in the most desirable areas.I think gang problems a problem everywhere these days,I can't do anything about that,but I would like to be in an area that has good schools and transport links.At the end of the day,my wife will have the final say and we still have'nt managed to sell our own house yet,may need to reduce the price again(anyone fancy a move to sunny Rhyl).

Exactly,the areas where there is no trouble at all,just dont exist! I'd suggest visiting your chosen areas,a couple of times,day and evening,just to get the feel of the place,before making a definite decision!

P.S.Liverpool failed to make the top ten burglary spots! :handclap:

[Robert Boulter]

Sounds like good advice.I also read the 'burglary' item on AOL.Good news for Liverpool .In the top ten was LE3 (Leicester)where we used to live,and guess what,we were burgled 3 times,its not a nice experience but an unfortunate fact of life.A night out in Liverpool this weekend me thinks,(wifes birthday) so another good opportunity to look around.Keep the good info coming,its gratefully received.

[lindylou]

Orrell Park...bad idea!!!
Take it from someone who knows like me,. It's Walton and Rice lane gangs there.Just down the road is the Rice Lane wreck (a large field). This is used as an escape route onto the old railway line (transpenine route).

The problem here is people giving you advice when they don't really know what they're on about.
How many of the people giving advice have actually "hung around" an area long enough to know what it's like. ?

If you like the Orrell park area then I suggest Longmoor Lane. Reason......
long main road,nice houses and very rarely any trouble.

Job's a good un':PDT_Piratz_26:

My husband works in Orrell park and has done for approx 30 years. He knows more people there than he does in Anfield where we live. Orrell park has it's problems like every other district - nowhere is perfect. There was a time we considered moving there. The 'Field' roads, ie, Devonfield, Hollyfield, Kingfield, etc, and around Chatsworth, Stanley gdns, Orrell Lane and Bull lane are very nice houses.

Not disagreeing that it is probably is a tad rougher down by Rice lane end and over towards the wreck - but it's much nicer up along Orrell Lane and Moss Lane way.


Longmoor Lane is ok too.

[Ged]

Liverpool footballers have been burgled all last season in their posh mansions so the burglars will go where the spoils are to be had.

You know when you're in a downcast area - you don't bother getting burgled :)

[lindylou]

Even 'posh' Calderstones has been in the news lately - it comes to something when even that area expeiences problems ! :)

[Doris Mousdale]

I'm back again,still have'nt moved.Hoping to look at a few of houses in Walton and West Derby on Monday.Kirkby seems to be quite a competitavely priced area to buy a property in,is their any reason for this.It seems to mostly new(ish) houses,would prefer something old(Victorian etc) but new would be ok if it was big enough.Also Huyton has posibilities.Looked at a large house in Bootle last week,was ok but next door was in a terrible state,shame really as this put the wife off completely.Anyone know what its like around Hartington Road,seen a decent house their and it is south,as has been recommended by many people.

Hartington Road off Smithdown is a good area Allerton is good with some decent terraces as well as semis good shops and plenty of bars and restaurants.
Kirkby's price reflects the area a step too far alright for Knowsley etc but tough. Why not rent for while and go and discover for yourself- and teach your wife to drive- at least the Saab.West Derby is good with some good schools and a nice village feel don't know if the pubs get hectic there used to be a bit of bother.

[Robert Boulter]

Had a look at some new houses in Garston on the internet,so asked a mate at work what the area is like.He lives in Woolton and took a drive into the area to look for me and said it looks ok.I picked my daughter up from John Moore Uni on Thursday and took the long route over the Runcorn bridge.Lots of advice I've received recommended South Liverpool and I have to say,it looked very promising,so myself and Mrs Boulter will be viewing a few new house Sunday afternoon.Looks promising,also had our first viewing last week,so things seem to be improving.I always have a good feeling when we visit Liverpool (its a city thing) and can't wait to move.