Liverpool Preservation Trust

[Cadfael]

A fantastic Blog set up by Wayne Colquhoun:

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/

[taffy]

A fantastic Blog set up by Wayne Colquhoun:

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/

I don't see any comments about the now planning permission approved demolition of Garston Hospital

[ghughesarch]

A fantastic Blog set up by Wayne Colquhoun:

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/

But who are / what is the "Liverpool Preservation Trust"?

I've see Wayne quoted for years - as "chairman" or "founder" of the LPT - in the local and national press, spouting off (not always in a very well-informed way) about what he thinks is wrong with Liverpool planning, and upsetting a lot of people who achieved far more than he has in the field of conservation in the process, but I can't find any evidence that an organisation (charitable or otherwise) called Liverpool Preservation Trust actually exists.

Is it just Wayne Colquhoun? and if not, how do I join?

[ghughesarch]

I have recently emailed Wayne the question I posed in the post above (rather more politely phrased).
Fans of the Liverpool Preservation Trust may be interested that he first replied asking who I represented (answer, no-one), where I live, and to send a resume so he could consult with his "colleagues" on whether or not I was "suitable to become involved with LPT". So I explained, including my long-term voluntary involvement in various long-running heritage charities, and mentioned that I found his evasiveness a bit odd for an "above-board" trust.

I've just had this reply from him:

No thanks we do not think it would be suitable for you to be involved with us at this stage as you seem to be
living in a completly different area.
Thank you for your interest but we stay independant so as to avoid the heritage mafia.
I for one frankly dont care what you think.

Charming, like lots of con men. But since he doesn't care what I think, he won't care if I share what I think with readers of this forum, and ask the question, how long will it be before the Daily Post stop taking him so seriously? and how long will it be before he stops behaving in a way that drags effective conservation in Liverpool through the mud every time the "LPT" expresses his opinion about something?

[David Swift]

A fantastic Blog set up by Wayne Colquhoun:

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/

You're quite right Cadfael, he does a great job - I wish there were more like him in the city. You only have to read his blog to get the lowdown on what the local papers won't print ! An awesome amount of information, I can't believe he does all this as well as running his own business.

[fortinian]

Gosh, lemme put my sunglasses on. I seem to have been blinded cos Wayne Colquhoun seems to have bent over.

[ghughesarch]

someone has sent me this alternative take on Wayne
http://the-liverpool-preservation-trust.blogspot.com/
It is much more fun, but then I've been sla g ged off by him since my last post here, and so have a bit more interest in exposing him as the fraud he is. Thanks to my anonymous correspondent for revealing the truth

[ghughesarch]

You're quite right Cadfael, he does a great job - I wish there were more like him in the city. You only have to read his blog to get the lowdown on what the local papers won't print ! An awesome amount of information, I can't believe he does all this as well as running his own business.

No. I can't believe it either. I can only guess he isn't all that busy selling Clarice Cliffe teapots ;o)

[David Swift]

No. I can't believe it either. I can only guess he isn't all that busy selling Clarice Cliffe teapots ;o)

Whatever, he still does a great job.

[ghughesarch]

Whatever, he still does a great job.
How exactly? All I can see on Wayne's blog is a lot of whinging about stuff that's already happened, some childish name-calling and some threats of violence. You seem to be the only person (except Charles, who's cover seems to have been blown by the other blogger) who posts anything on there, all of it about how wonderful the LPT is, even though the LPT doesn't seem to exist outside Wayne's head - if it was a real Trust it would be registered with the Charity Commission, for example - which is where I first started to smell a rat.

I imagine the local papers won't print the LPT's stories because they're rubbish. Though no doubt you and Wayne think it's all a conspiracy by the Heritage Fruit Cakes.

And you turn up here, and your only two posts are about what a great job the LPT do. Hmmmmm.

[David Swift]

[QUOTE=ghughesarch;262559]How exactly? All I can see on Wayne's blog is a lot of whinging about stuff that's already happened, some childish name-calling and some threats of violence. You seem to be the only person (except Charles, who's cover seems to have been blown by the other blogger) who posts anything on there, all of it about how wonderful the LPT is, even though the LPT doesn't seem to exist outside Wayne's head - if it was a real Trust it would be registered with the Charity Commission, for example - which is where I first started to smell a rat.
Dear g hughes arch - Why you should be so wound up about the Liverpool Preservation Trust is a question for you. The LPT has gained credibility through national radio, televison, newspaper and journal coverage.
The answer to "why I turned up here" is simple. I came across this site through an internet search about Liverpool's heritage and I simply endorsed a post by "Cadfael" about the LPT. I made ONE post on this, which I think was fairly innocuous. My second post was in response to you.
I don't think this forum should be used to air personal grievances.

[Ged]

All i've ever seen on another forum is him being castigated for not embracing anything new in the city - so living in a time warp. Whilst I love our Georgian Heritage, has his organisation actually ever done ANYTHING to save any of it?

[ghughesarch]

Dear g hughes arch - Why you should be so wound up about the Liverpool Preservation Trust is a question for you. The LPT has gained credibility through national radio, televison, newspaper and journal coverage.

Not really credible though, when the LPT turns out not to exist except in Wayne's head, and actually has failed to prevent any of the things the blog rails against. I often agree with a lot of his gripes, but the way he goes about it is just guaranteed to put people's backs up - including the people who might otherwise be on his side, so it's completely counterproductive and very damaging to the whole idea of conservation in Liverpool when he's the one shouting loudest about it.
And you may think it's a "personal grievance", but Wayne publicly promising to give me "a good leathering" if I ever come to Liverpool, and then posting my name and contact details, just for asking if the LPT really existed, doesn't seem to me to be the way to win friends and influence people. You may like to associate with, and defend, people who get nowhere with charming stuff like this:
"if you ever do come to Liverpool let me know where I can meet you. I dont think you would be so bold face to face."(21 April 2010)
but the more he does it, the more he shows himself for what he is. I'm glad someone else has started looking closely at the mandate, methods and motives of the LPT, and has had the courage to publish their (very amusing) discoveries.

[ghughesarch]

Looks like soneone else was asking similar questions as long ago as 2008:
http://www.bdonline.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=426&storycode=3112355

"You have cited the ‘Liverpool Preservation Trust’, approvingly. This is an organisation that appears to be un-registered with the Charities Commission, to have no constitution, one ‘trustee’ (or ‘chairman’) and no members. I understand the sole ‘trustee’ parted ways with the Merseyside Civic Society because of his idiosyncratic views about the future of the city. The ‘trust’ is always happy to provide personal opinions; it is for others to decide how representative they are in reporting them and the credibility it imparts on the reporter in doing so."

[ghughesarch]

Back in February 2011, a user calling themselves "Quentin Hughes" (who has otherwise made no contribution to Yo Liverpool) sent me this PM via YoLiverpool - somehow I've only just picked it up. I can't think of a better thread to share it on. The signature is interesting, as is the language:

Originally Posted by quentin_hughes
How's it going Eliza/Gareth Hughes ...

Do your employers [he names them] know about your ****-stirring using [their] computers during office hours ?
I suggest you disappear from this website and any other sites connected with the Merseyside region.
Wayne

Just as a matter of purely coincidental interest:
The Theft Act, 1968 defines blackmail as follows:
(1) A person is guilty of blackmail if, with a view to gain for himself or another or with intent to cause loss to another, he makes any unwarranted demand with menaces; and for this purpose a demand with menaces is unwarranted unless the person making it does so in the belief: (a) that he has reasonable grounds for making the demand; and (b) that the use of the menaces is a proper means of reinforcing the demand.
(2) The nature of the act or omission demanded is immaterial, and it is also immaterial whether the menaces relate to action to be taken by the person making the demand.

the word "menace" is to be liberally construed and not as limited to threats of violence but as including threats of any action detrimental to or unpleasant to the person addressed. It may also include a warning that in certain events such action is intended.

[Cass]

That certainly is interesting, and revealing, as is other information on this topic/thread. It seems you can fool some of the people some of the time? Is there anyone who is a member of the "Liverpool Preservation Trust" so-called who can give any further details about the organisation? If it is legitimate, all above board, won't new members be welcome? What does it do? What's its purpose?

http://the-liverpool-preservation-trust.blogspot.com/


That's a good read. Thanks for the link.

[wsteve55]

Huh.....the word "doolally" springs to mind!! Is he for real?:noid:

[ghughesarch]

That blog that Cass has linked to I think is meant to be a spoof of the "real" LPT blog - though the "real" one is pretty much beyond parody.
Whenever I've asked the perfectly legit question about whether the so-called "Liverpool Preservation Trust" is a real organisation, properly constituted as a trust, recognised by the Charity Commission, with actual members, the result has been the same torrent of foul-mouthed abuse from Wayne - how dare anyone question his authority? I can't imagine why it's so difficult for him to give a simple answer.
However, as his recent message to me shows, that has now moved on from simple rudeness to something verging on the criminal. I wonder if "David Swift", who leapt to his support on this thread, then made no further contribution to YOLiverpool, can offer an idea as to what the defence might be if that ever got to court?

[Ged]

Wayne is loopy lou - as oppossed to Liverpool Lou.