Clarence Dock Area

[gregs dad]

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Found this in a Clarence Dock rest room yesterday.
Had one of these in our house "when I were lad".Cast iron kettle on the hob always on the boil,topped up every now and when it ran low with evaporation,Sunday dinner cooked in the oven,with the teatime scones,and in the winter evenings draw plates taken out,covered with a cloth and used
as bedwarmers all with one fire

[Waterways]

Joe, Clarence Dock is filled in. :)

[Ged]

Looks like the rest room isn't though ;)

[gregs dad]

Joe, Clarence Dock is filled in. :)
Alright I`ll give it it`s full title Clarence Graving Docks which are only filled in with water. See Dock gates thread.
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These are old railway lines which were used to feed the Clarence power station.The Clarence dock was eventually used to store coal in as it was discharged from trains and when the power station was demolished they filled the dock in with the rubble.

[gregs dad]

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This is the same room as the grate in the Clarence Graving Docks
The mirrors in good nick, the shelf in the corner could be for a TV or the gas meter

[scouse smurf]

How long before someone goes along to claim them for themselves ? lol

[Kev]

Can I rename this thread to Clarence Dock?

[gregs dad]

It`s a small world Smurf I showed these to my elder brother,and he remembers on old fellow who used to rent it off the M D H B and police would
call in for a cup of tea and a warm.

[gregs dad]

Can I rename this thread to Clarence Dock?
OK Kev

[Kev]

Cheers, I've moved it too :handclap: <<Excellent pics Joe.

[18stanley]

That pic of the grate brought some memories back, Joe,most of all your
mention of covering the hot oven shelves with old pieces of blanket to heat the beds in the winter. It was another world!
Stan H.

[gregs dad]

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the Clarence graving docks ,the gangway in the foreground won`t be getting used anymore,
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An old crane in the Stanley Dock
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The old corn silo roof in the Stanley dock
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Reflection of the old lift bridge on Regent Road
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The footbridge part of the lift bridge on Regent Road, there are rumours work might start there next week.

[Kev]

Fab photos again Joe :PDT11

I would love a walk around this area, especially around the clock. Is it easy to get in?

[gregs dad]

It isn`t now Kev since Peel Holdings took it over. The main entrace to the Waterloo Dock was always left open. I fished the Mersey there for many years up to last year, even while they were doing the canal link.They lock the gates now but some days they are left open so I just meander in and take some pics. I have only been approached once in the Clarence by security who asked me if I had finished taking my pics as they were locking up for the day and kindly offered me a lift to the entrance.

[pablo42]

Great pictures Joe. Nice one. Love looking at the old docks. I used to queue up there in the sixties in me dads wagon. The queues were long and slow.

[gregs dad]

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The old Clarence Graving docks
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View from Sandhills Station of the Huskisson dock
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The remains of the old wooden pier at the Liverpool Pier head

[gregs dad]

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Clarence dock area is playing host to a fairground for the next few weeks they arrived today.
This would make a nice park with some landscaping and canal walks instead of some of those ugly towers

[Waterways]

It would make a nice dock if they dug it out. Clarence Dock is still there complete with granite quays - have a look. It is historic as 1.4 million starving Irish went through it.

Then buildings fitting in with the Tobacco warehouse/Albert Dock could be built around it. What works at Albert will work there. It is probably too obvious for them.

[4737carlin]

Its a shame they cant leave them gates open all the time, im sure people use to fish there at night as well. I've been down there late on getting shots looking across the mersey toward Wallasey Town Hall..etc was a decent place to go

[gregs dad]

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Clarence Dock `s old gatehouse
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Old gangway in the Clarence dock,on the wall behind can be seen where the stairs leading to the overhead railway station were.
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Old shed in the Clarence dock
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Old buidings incuding the Victoria Tower seen across the Clarence graving dock
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The tobacco ware house seen aross the Clarence graving dock with a thin layer of ice forming on the water

[pablo42]

Nice one Joe.

[gregs dad]

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The old Clarence dock office with the desk left behind
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Across the graving dock with the old lift bridge over the Stanley dock in view
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The graving dock gates
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[pablo42]

Smashing photos Joe. Feel embarrassed putting mine up now.

[gregs dad]

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Must have painted the capstain
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old building on the Clarence dock
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Across the Trafalgar dock to Victoria Tower
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Looking into the Salisbury dock from Trafalgar
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Old workshop by Victoria tower,I used to fish in the Mersey from in front of this,inside was a magnificent wooden work bench with legs about 9 inches thick. Might still be there, as there was no way of getting it through the door.

[squiggs]

My Grandad worked in the Clarence Dock power station !, I still have his pass....wonder if I can use it to get access ??......I was around the area today at the Market.

[Ron Ham]

Hi Joe , Magnificent pics as usual , That is not an old workshop by the Victoria Tower , it is the Salisbury Dock-masters Office ,The Dock Master had his quarters upstairs & the bench you refer to was the office desk ! they were built to last in those days . Ron P.S someone mentioned access for fishing , I found as an office boy working for the Harbour Masters Dept. , there was a clause written into the original construction of the Docks ,which were built onto the river that the public who previously had access to the river would not be restricted ,for fishing etc. & you could always obtain a pass (for the bobby on the Gate) to fish from the wall ,which I had, I wonder if the present owners of docklands are aware of this ?. . The Cockle-Hole recess ,South of Albert Dk was built for fishing boats & was tidal . I had a registered fishing boat & was never refused free entry to the docks . Ron

[gregs dad]

Hi Ron
the bench that I used to see in there while I was fishing from there had a very large vice attached to it.
I am only going back about 5 years ago.
My brother kept his boat,a nobby called the Comrade, in the "cockle hole". I had a pass for fishing, but since the terrorist threat it was withdrawn. You can apply now but it must be a party of a bonafide angling club.I think the old law was where you could walk on the river front you could fish.
I had a pass many years ago to take photos in the docks when I was a member of the Litherland camera club.

[wsteve55]

I remember making my way along the dock front,about 20 yrs ago,from Seaforth radar station,to the Pier head,and didn't see a soul,but for a couple of guy's fishing,who told me how much cleaner the river was becoming!That seems to have been stopped now,and the access to make the same trip,just isn't there,with all the redevelopment,etc!

[Ron Ham]

Hi Joe , I had a great mate , Alex Martinnsen (an Estonian) a well known character on the waterfront as mate on the 'Skirmisher & LHC Deltic' ? (took rubbish out to sea) , he had a nobby the'Lavinia' which he kept alongside mine in Salisbury Dk & we both went down to the Cockle-Hole to spend the night there so Alex could do a repair on his propellor when the tide went out , I recall 2 other nobbys moored there but cant recall their names & there was another professional fisher who I was told had a fish shop . wonderful days ! Ron

[az_gila]

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The tobacco ware house seen aross the Clarence graving dock with a thin layer of ice forming on the water

Is that the Ogdens or the BAT building?

[gregs dad]

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Sub station in the Clarence dock
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Waterloo Dock residential blocks from the Clarence
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The old rail tracks which carried the coal to the Clarence power station

[Spike]

Cracking pics:handclap:

[gregs dad]

Thanks folks

[wsteve55]

Here's a couple of pic's of the same area,last year! I'm not well up on dock names,but all the sand, looks like it's gone,in your pic's Joe,did they use it to infil the dock next door? I've thrown in a old pic of this,I think,as you can see the bascule bridge!

[Oddsocks]

az_gila, Here's a photo of Ogden's office block in Boundary Lane, about 3 miles from the Clarence. The factory has now closed and this is the only building that remains.

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Greg's dad & wsteve55. Superb photos

Cheers,
Oddsocks

[pablo42]

Nice photos guys.

[az_gila]

az_gila, Here's a photo of Ogden's office block in Boundary Lane, about 3 miles from the Clarence. The factory has now closed and this is the only building that remains.


Thanks for the picture. That building is a lot more fancy than the BAT building I worked in one summer. I don't remember a separate office building for BAT.

Is the building still in use as an office for Ogdens? Is Ogdens even still around as a company?

[Oddsocks]

Pipe tobacco and Snuff is no longer produced at the Boundary Lane Everton factory, and I can't tell you what goes on at the office block.

I took the photo recently because rumour had it that it was coming down. It is a listed building but in Liverpool that doesn't mean a thing to the Council. As we have witnessed over the years.

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Is there a thread that lists all the buildings/structures of special interest or architecture i.e. Sailors Home, Floating Roadway, etc. that have been pulled down?

[wsteve55]

Pipe tobacco and Snuff is no longer produced at the Boundary Lane Everton factory, and I can't tell you what goes on at the office block.

I took the photo recently because rumour had it that it was coming down. It is a listed building but in Liverpool that doesn't mean a thing to the Council. As we have witnessed over the years.

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Is there a thread that lists all the buildings/structures of special interest or architecture i.e. Sailors Home, Floating Roadway, etc. that have been pulled down?

Have a look through the Liverpool & Merseyside remembered, sub-forums,there are plenty of architectural posts,and pic's!

[wsteve55]

Hi Oddsocks,here's a couple of pic's you might like!

Courtesy of L.R.O.,John Smith, and Colin Wilkinson or Dazza?

[wsteve55]

And here's a few of the Pier Head,showing the floating roadway!


Courtesy of L.R.O. and Ged Fleming.

[pablo42]

Hi Oddsocks,here's a couple of pic's you might like!

Courtesy of L.R.O. and Dazza?

Great pictures Steve. Anyone know what building that is in the first photo next to the Sailors Home. I've not seen it before.

[pablo42]

More great pictures Steve.

[wsteve55]

Great pictures Steve. Anyone know what building that is in the first photo next to the Sailors Home. I've not seen it before.

I've no idea Pab's.All I know is,that they've all gone now!Looks interesting though!

[Oddsocks]

wsteve55, Thanks for the pics. Much appreciated.
Oddsocks

[Oddsocks]

Do you mean this one Pablo? MacSymon's Stores, Ship's Chandlers.

Cropped image of Sailor's Home. Courtesy of LRO
Oddsocks

[pablo42]

Thanks Oddsocks, I've never seen it before. Great building, shame we lost it. Ant idea when it was pulled down. I'm sure it was before my time.

[ItsaZappathing]

Do you mean this one Pablo? MacSymon's Stores, Ship's Chandlers.

Cropped image of Sailor's Home. Courtesy of LRO
Oddsocks

I too have never seen that one before..thanx Oddsocks.:PDT11

[Oddsocks]

Sorry Pablo, can't help you there.

Except to say it made way for the Nautical Training College when it moved from Oldham Street (Dickie Bond's catering college).

But I don't when it was actually demolished. But I'll make inquiries.
Oddsocks

[pablo42]

Sad we lost it.

[scouse smurf]

Since Steve posted one of Gerard's photos, thought I'd give ya a link to his flickr photos. He's taken some really good photo's lately (not suggesting that he hasn't always

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22115010@N06/

[pablo42]

Nice one Smurf.

[pablo42]

What's with that avatar?

[scouse smurf]

What's with that avatar?

Mine ? As I told Mart, I was going for the complete opposite of my previous one. Anyway, there's nowt wrong with a smurf trying to smell nice, is there ?

[pablo42]

Mine ? As I told Mart, I was going for the complete opposite of my previous one. Anyway, there's nowt wrong with a smurf trying to smell nice, is there ?

I'm gonna need a long talk with you...

[wsteve55]

Since Steve posted one of Gerard's photos, thought I'd give ya a link to his flickr photos. He's taken some really good photo's lately (not suggesting that he hasn't always

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22115010@N06/

Gerard approved,as long as he gets a credit!:nod: