THE two men who spearheaded Liverpool's bid to win Capital of Culture today said: "We hope the city is still being rebuilt in 2008".


Council chief executive Sir David Henshaw, and former council leader Mike Storey - who now has the portfolio for special projects including culture - claimed a crane-filled skyline was good news for the city.


Speaking today in response to criticism that many parts of the city will still resemble a building site in Capital of Culture year in 2008, Sir David said: "You cannot stop a growing and developing city."


He told the council's executive board: "There is an opportunity to use these developments. Building work shows we are a vibrant city.

"Melbourne has used its building sites for salsa dancing and we can do the same in Liverpool."


Meanwhile, former council leader Mike Storey said he hopes that when 2008 arrives there will still be work in progress.


He added: "We want to see cranes on the skyline.


"When people visit a European city they do not see it in pristine condition.
"I would be concerned if in 2008 we said "this is it" and there was no building going on and no cranes in sight.


"In 2008, the city will be continuing to develop towards 2020......

What do u think? Are cranes a good sign?

A further 22 tower cranes are set to join the 20 currently punctuating the Liverpool skyline, with only London and Dublin beating the count. City leaders are predicting one of the most exciting years in decades as a number of long-awaited projects get underway. Work on schemes such as Grosvenor’s giant Paradise Street development, which accounts for 10 cranes, has sucked in thousands of construction workers, including a small army of Poles.

London and Dublin - Both capital cities too :celb (6):

Photees and comments please :celb (23): You can't help but notice them as you drive past can you?

Liverpool 1 = 13
West Tower = 1
St Pauls = 1
Kings Dock = 2
Unity = 1
Malmasion = 1
School of Tropical Medicine = 1
Garden Quarter = 1
L1 Baltic Triangle = 4
Chandlers Wharf = 1
London Road = 1

Here you are Kev saddo that I am I've listed all the tower cranes in the city centre,there's 27 altogether.:celb (23):

Liverpool 1 = 13
West Tower = 1
St Pauls = 1
Kings Dock = 2
Unity = 1
Malmasion = 1
School of Tropical Medicine = 1
Garden Quarter = 1
L1 Baltic Triangle = 4
Chandlers Wharf = 1
London Road = 1

Here you are Kev saddo that I am I've listed all the tower cranes in the city centre,there's 27 altogether.:celb (23):

Paul, I set out today on a trip over the water to get my mini looked at and planned to stop off and take pics but there were far too many!!!!!

Its just mad, KIngs Dock looked to me as if it had about 4 cranes up?

Thanks Paul :celb (23):

Yes you're right there are many more cranes all around town but the ones I've counted are the big tower cranes,I'm sure King's Dock is expecting a few more cranes so you may be right.:)

Yes you're right there are many more cranes all around town but the ones I've counted are the big tower cranes,I'm sure King's Dock is expecting a few more cranes so you may be right.:)

It is quite amazing to see it all :Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:

Two crane vids taken today. I hope they are ok.

L1 cranes (http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/video/l1.wmv) and Various Downtown cranes (http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/video/cranes1.wmv).

:ninja:

Cheers Dave, I lost count trying to count them all :)

As sad as it may seem I got a real buzz going through town the other day looking at all the new cranes.:)

As sad as it may seem I got a real buzz going through town the other day looking at all the new cranes.:)

Me too - there's been nothin for years then - booooom! Loads of 'em.

Liverpool 1 = 14
West Tower = 1
St Pauls = 1
Kings Dock = 2
Unity = 1
Malmasion = 1
School of Tropical Medicine = 1
Garden Quarter = 1
L1 Baltic Triangle = 4
Chandlers Wharf = 1
London Road = 1
Pierce Homes Development = 1
Alexandra Tower = 1

30 Tower Cranes which is another milestone reached plus countless mobile cranes.Considering you were lucky if you saw 1 a couple of years ago this latest count is nothing short of unbelievable.:celb (6):

Liverpool 1 = 14
West Tower = 1
St Pauls = 2
Kings Dock = 2
Unity = 1
Malmasion = 1
School of Tropical Medicine = 1
Garden Quarter = 1
L1 Baltic Triangle = 4
Chandlers Wharf = 1
London Road = 1
Pierce Homes Development = 1
Alexandra Tower = 1
Elysian Fields = 1
Bluecoat = 1

33

Liverpool 1 = 14
West Tower = 1
St Pauls = 2
Kings Dock = 2
Malmasion = 1
School of Tropical Medicine = 1
Garden Quarter = 1
L1 Baltic Triangle = 4
London Road = 1
Pierce Homes Development = 1
Alexandra Tower = 1
Elysian Fields = 1
Bluecoat = 1
Pierce Homes Ropewalks = 1

32 Remember this is just for tower cranes there are well more than this in reality.:)

As much as I love the activity down town I'll be glad when we start to make serious in roads with all the new developments and the progress becomes more apparent,Liverpool at the moment is a building site and when the wraps come off I'll be more confident for tourists to see it.

not counting anymore Paul?

I rarely go into town now.

not to worry mate just wondering... just off the top of my head i dont think we are near the glory days of the 32 or so we had a while back!

http://www.bwpics.co.uk/gallery/liverpoolpics/cranes.jpg

Hi Steve

Find pic, Steve. I am also enjoying looking at your virtual tour of Chester. Excellent work. :handclap:

Chris

Alexander Tower-1
West Tower-1
St. Pauls-2
Liverpool One-9 white cranes, 4 red cranes, 1 blue, 2 green, 16 in total
Pierse-1
Elysian Fields-1
Kings Dock hotels-2
L1-4
Vermont Tower-1
Columus Quay-1
The University-1
Grafton St-1


Total 32 but the 4 at L1 are not active at present while they sort out their differences.

Just noticed the recently erected one by the Coburg pub (Sefton St/Parliament St). Grafton St/Horsfall St. has a tower crane, I don't remember the specific name of the development.

The crane on the Liverpool One site that was above the new Debenhams came down a few days ago, did you count that one out Paul?

A rare bit of activity this afternoon on the L1 site: one of the tower cranes was dismantling its neighbour. Dunno if they're all coming down. What's happening here, has the L1 scheme been scrapped?

http://www.l1ve.com/ is the official website of the L1 development. There's also a thread on Yo! too: Click here (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1062)....

A rare bit of activity this afternoon on the L1 site: one of the tower cranes was dismantling its neighbour. Dunno if they're all coming down. What's happening here, has the L1 scheme been scrapped?
Don't know, but the crane's are on lease and probably costing money. I'm guessing whoever owns them wanted them back...

A rare bit of activity this afternoon on the L1 site: one of the tower cranes was dismantling its neighbour. Dunno if they're all coming down. What's happening here, has the L1 scheme been scrapped?

At the moment it's not looking good is it? They must cost brewsters keeping them there idle though.

Paul and others,
I know some of you don't get downtown much, but neither do the ladies on SSC which is where you get most of your info from. Most of them haven't a clue.
Ignore them. Just a piece of advice:PDT_Aliboronz_11:

Okay Dave,so is there any truth in that?

Don't know, but the crane's are on lease and probably costing money. I'm guessing whoever owns them wanted them back...

I'd been wondering that for some time. I can't remember last time I saw them working there, must be about 12 months now, and 4 cranes sat there doing nothing must be costing someone money. As of lunchtime today when I went out, two of them had gone, and it looked like they were getting a third one ready for dismantling.

Yes, within a few more days I'll expect they'll on be gone. Logical, I suppose, but a shame as I was planning to go back there...

Alexander Tower-1
West Tower-1
St. Pauls-2
Liverpool One-9 white cranes, 4 red cranes, 1 blue, 2 green, 16 in total
Pierse-1
Elysian Fields-1
Kings Dock hotels-2
L1-2
Vermont Tower-1
Uni Eng-1
Columbus Quay-1
Grafton St-1

Total=30

L1 has no cranes anymore, plus I think St Pauls only has 1 now.

L1 has no cranes anymore, plus I think St Pauls only has 1 now.

Thanks Snappel. 27

I know this is a city centre crane count but have you seen the ones at Whiston Hospital? There must be about 6! :PDT_Xtremez_42:

It's great that regeneration is taking place all over now,there are a lot of projects outside of the city centre just waiting to start.:PDT11

Alexander Tower-1
West Tower-1
St. Pauls-1
Liverpool One-9 white cranes, 6 red cranes, 1 blue, 2 green, 18 in total
Hilton 1
Pierse-1
Elysian Fields-1
Kings Dock hotels-2
L1-0
Vermont Tower-1
Uni Eng-1
Uni Design Academy - 1
Columbus Quay-1
Grafton St-1
Duke St 1

Total=32 Even with the loss of 4 cranes at the L1 development,hopefully the site will be bought soon and they go straight back on site.

Cheers Paul, I was listening to Kev Seed the other day and he said that the cranes are colour coded depending on where abouts they are in town, ie PSD all white. Is there any truth in this?

Cheers Paul, I was listening to Kev Seed the other day and he said that the cranes are colour coded depending on where abouts they are in town, ie PSD all white. Is there any truth in this?

Maybe part of it are but they're definitely different colours,see above.:)

I doubt it. I'd have thought it's down to whichever crane hire company is used. PSD has white, red, green and blue cranes on it. I expect most sites only use one hire company, and so probably have the same colour cranes. As Paradise St is broken down into sub-sites, it's possible that different bits use different companies.

One more Iliad one on Duke Street, plus at least two new ones on Paradise Street.

There's one just gone up at Park Road, on the Clarendon Park development (which is mostly finished), opposite Somerfield.
I'll put a photo in the Toxteth thread.

I don't know if this is on the list...it's over the road from the University in Duckinfield Street (rear of Catholic Cathedral). This is one of the very few sites where you can see what's going on...until they put up hoardings down this street.

Edit: I checked the hoardings and this is already on the list...arts and design building for the university.

A few crane pics - 23rd May 2007

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/222/511105103_3c36fa7eab.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/511105103/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/219/511104833_85e32916cb.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/511104833/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/209/511080930_6f4ada50d2.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/511080930/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/226/511080644_b82f049708.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/511080644/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/203/511080548_8902959bb2.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/511080548/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/511104255_29d22558d0.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/511104255/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/511104157_b2cfd7a1cc.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/511104157/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/212/511104071_2cc1ce58c3.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/511104071/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/230/511080224_7f320103c3.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/511080224/)

Has anyone taken any pics from Hannover street ?...It looks like a "forest" of cranes from there.

Kev's 4th pic above is from Hannover st, looking past the new BBC Radio Merseyside building. Great pics Kev.

Cheers Ged.

Of course I recognise it now...cheers.
I think they look more impressive from the ground though in Hannover street...makes you feel kind of small.

That's the same reason I took the pics, its a surreal experience walking in that part of town.

Kev
In pic 2 and the last pic (the same crane I think) I notice both the Canadian Flag and the French Flag fly on it.
Do you know the reason for that ?
Just curious :slywink:
Phredd

Don't tell me Celine Dion's driving it?

As viewed from the Mersey.

In the last couple of weeks, one of the big white cranes from Paradise Street was taken out - it was roughly where the old bus station/car park was; and another one has gone up, near Cesar Pelli's tower. By the look of it I don't think it'll be there for long though, its base isn't buried in the ground like the rest.

Can't remember when the one at St Pauls went, but not seen the mobile one they had lately either.

Grafton Street/Horsfall Street...Tower Crane removed (site is almost finished).

University Art and Design building (rear of Catholic Cathedral), has another Tower Crane (making a total of two, now)

29 June 2007.

From New Ferry it's clear to see that nothing of any height has yet been built.
In fact (in this shot) the only tall buildings are structures from the 1960s.
(Apart from the Law Courts and the Municipal's tower.)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1127/664671875_0ab7864abd_o.jpg

A crane was being erected at the New Liverpool Life Museum site, this morning.

...and one of the white cranes has been removed from Paradise Street, roughly where the Moat House Hotel used to be. I can't see the other ones in the same area (two of them left) being around for much longer.