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Gnomie
04-14-2006, 11:23 AM
The Italians Settled along side the Irish In what was known as Little Italy.


http://www.scottiepress.org.uk/projects/litaly.htm





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Gnomie
04-18-2006, 09:57 AM
http://h1.ripway.com/andalucia/va27.jpg

Sloyne
07-05-2006, 01:13 AM
The Italians Settled along side the Irish In what was known as Little Italy.Fimiglio, Capaldi, Fusco, Accari, Chiappe, Gurrelli, Santangeli, Volante, Moglioni, Venetti, Giannacci, Lucchesi are just some of the names of families who lived in and around Gerrard Street.

Barolo
12-14-2006, 01:19 AM
Thanks, Gnomie, for posting the link to the Little Italy.

I teach Italian at Wirral Metropolitan College and have mentioned (to my students) the fact that an area known as Little Italy existed in Liverpool. The link to the Scottie Press site makes fascinating reading. Thanks again! :)

scouserdave
12-14-2006, 09:26 AM
One of my mates is Dominic Volante, named after his Uncle Dom who was a cracking boxer according to my Dad.

A couple of pics of the unveiling of the Little Italy plaque on the old Pontack pub. It's now a detective agency. The last plaque was nicked a couple of years back.

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/li001.jpg

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/li002.jpg

Ged
12-14-2006, 10:16 AM
Hello Dave, Tony and the rest.

The detective agency has gone now as well - not enough business for them obviously in that nice little Catholic area :)

Ron organised a Scouse Italian reunion night at the Via Veneto as you can see and he could have sold the 70 tickets three times over. Some of the Italian named families that lived in the area when I did were: Muscatelli, Ventre, Baccino, Miello and Tremarco.

Gnomie
12-14-2006, 01:38 PM
My Grandad was born and raised in the area, he attended St Josephs church, I know a lot of the Italians attended also and they and the English/Irish would have great street parades.

Ironic really that my grandad was killed and buried in Italy during ww2.

scouserdave
12-19-2006, 02:50 PM
Hello Dave, Tony and the rest.

The detective agency has gone now as well - not enough business for them obviously in that nice little Catholic area :)

News to me mate, thanks for that. Guess those Cat Licks don't do any sinnin':rolleyes:

Pmac
12-19-2006, 02:50 PM
Hello Dave, Tony and the rest.

The detective agency has gone now as well - not enough business for them obviously in that nice little Catholic area :)

Ron organised a Scouse Italian reunion night at the Via Veneto as you can see and he could have sold the 70 tickets three times over. Some of the Italian named families that lived in the area when I did were: Muscatelli, Ventre, Baccino, Miello and Tremarco.

I dont know if you would be interested or if you might know of somone who might be,but I am putting on a big football festival in Liverpool in July/June next year ,it is based on the World Cup and we have been putting it on in London for the past 12 years in Regents Park,I have already posted this on the Polish thread and have come across some interested parties there for the Polish Team,so I thought i would see if you or any of your friends would be interested in entering a team to represent Italy.
It has been hugely succesfull in London ,even to the extent of having TV and Radio coverage.We are already a fair way down the road of organising it except for the doting the I's and crossing the T's with the council,but the TV and radio are already onboard.
There is alot more information I could give you so if you send me a PM I will get it over to you if you think you could come up with a team or know someone who could,it is 11 a side by the way.

scouserdave
12-19-2006, 03:02 PM
I dont know if you would be interested or if you might know of somone who might be,but I am putting on a big football festival in Liverpool in July/June next year ,it is based on the World Cup and we have been putting it on in London for the past 12 years in Regents Park,I have already posted this on the Polish thread and have come across some interested parties there for the Polish Team,so I thought i would see if you or any of your friends would be interested in entering a team to represent Italy.
It has been hugely succesfull in London ,even to the extent of having TV and Radio coverage.We are already a fair way down the road of organising it except for the doting the I's and crossing the T's with the council,but the TV and radio are already onboard.
There is alot more information I could give you so if you send me a PM I will get it over to you if you think you could come up with a team or know someone who could,it is 11 a side by the way.
I used to play in the Hotel & Catering League in Regents Park:PDT_Piratz_26:
Pmac, probably best if you centre your attention on Bedford rather than Liverpool. Almost every other person is bluddy Italian!:rolleyes:

Pmac
12-20-2006, 11:48 AM
I used to play in the Hotel & Catering League in Regents Park:PDT_Piratz_26:
Pmac, probably best if you centre your attention on Bedford rather than Liverpool. Almost every other person is bluddy Italian!:rolleyes:

I think you might have not understood that the event is taking place in Liverpool so the idea is to get representation of the cultures from within the city so as to bring the different cultures together in a festival of football.

scouserdave
12-20-2006, 01:18 PM
I think you might have not understood that the event is taking place in Liverpool so the idea is to get representation of the cultures from within the city so as to bring the different cultures together in a festival of football.
I was well aware that that the event was taking place in Liverpool, but you failed to mention that it was for inhabitants solely from Liverpool. I think you need to address this.

MissInformed
12-20-2006, 09:56 PM
:)


http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/li001.jpg

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/li002.jpg


ha ha tony sebo! my old supervisor in LADT!

Ged
12-20-2006, 11:23 PM
Sebo, now a Downtown liverpool guy of course, try their website also.

Pmac. Try posting your request to ronformby@scottiepress.org who is the man behind the www.scottiepress.org and he may include it in his local newspaper too. Over 1000 copies going out this month.

Max
12-21-2006, 02:19 AM
I never heard of a little Italy in Liverpool till you guys mentioned it!:eek:

The Gardens
01-02-2007, 07:15 PM
Attached is a link to a short introduction I created for the Scouse -Italian reunion night;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU2Ysd5CLCI

Features Nunzia Bertali (Italian Consulate) Ray Baccino (resident of Gerard Crescent) and Ronnie Volante (nephew of boxer Dom).

scouserdave
01-03-2007, 09:31 AM
Nice video

FKoE
01-03-2007, 07:45 PM
Attached is a link to a short introduction I created for the Scouse -Italian reunion night;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU2Ysd5CLCI

Features Nunzia Bertali (Italian Consulate) Ray Baccino (resident of Gerard Crescent) and Ronnie Volante (nephew of boxer Dom).


Good stuff.



My bessie mate in the infants and primary school was called Pietro Simoni..*where are you now Pete ? :unibrow:

john
01-03-2007, 08:02 PM
Really nice video
Love the voices

lindylou
01-07-2007, 11:50 PM
Lovely video, I enjoyed it .. wish it could be longer :) :)

The Gardens
01-08-2007, 01:20 AM
Thanks for your comments, this was just the introduction to the Scouse Italian reunion night. The main feature 'Gardens of Stone' lasts for 1hr 18 mins and features extensive archive footage, along with new interviews with past residents of the tenement blocks.
I will post details of any new screenings as soon as they are confirmed.

Ged
02-27-2007, 04:44 PM
Ron formby has just advised me of this going online on his scottie press website,. what a story.



http://www.scottiepress.org/projects/litaly.htm

ChrisGeorge
02-27-2007, 05:04 PM
Ron formby has just advised me of this going online on his scottie press website,. what a story.



http://www.scottiepress.org/projects/litaly.htm

Great to see, Ged. I don't see any mention of the Bioletti family of Liverpool (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2593) which surprises me. Maybe you could give me the contact info for Ron Formby? PM me if you would.

Chris

Lady
04-07-2007, 10:30 PM
Thankyou,I really enjoyed the video,:handclap:

Does anyone remember Johnny Genelli's chippy,it was just by Gerard Gardens,

They where the best chips ever.

Jacky:)

Gerard
04-07-2007, 10:57 PM
Thankyou,I really enjoyed the video,:handclap:

Does anyone remember Johnny Genelli's chippy,it was just by Gerard Gardens,

They where the best chips ever.

Jacky:)

Remember Giannellis very well Jacky having grown up in Gerard Gardens.
A Steak Pie in the Fat..Boootiful !!
Ill sort a piccie out for yer girl.

Are you from there by the way !

naked lilac
04-07-2007, 11:08 PM
:PDT_Aliboronz_24: This was terrific to view the Italian Heritage you posted. My family came from Sicily. I missed seeing an Italian community there when I visited.. and this party would be just so great... Keep us posted.. ciao

Lady
04-07-2007, 11:25 PM
Hiya Gerard,i used to live in Chaucer st,just off Grovenor st,
My mates all lived in the Gardens,
Oh,now my mouth is watering--------a pie in the fat,,,,Loverly Lol
Jacky

Kev
05-18-2007, 08:16 PM
MERSEYSIDE’S 3,000-strong Italian community will be turning out in force for next week’s Champions League match – but most of them will be rooting for Liverpool.

While the city’s bars will be heaving with Reds, Italian restaurants are also preparing themselves for the big night.

One of the main sites will be Bar Italia in Castle Street, where proprietor Franco Colangeli is bracing himself for a repeat of the dramatic scenes that accompanied Liverpool’s last clash with AC Milan in 2005.

Around 50 specially-invited Italian guests are expected to descend on the restaurant, where Mr Colangeli has a reserved room which will show the match as it is broadcast on Italian TV. continues (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpooldailypost/news/regionalnews/tm_headline=italian-fans-to-turn-out-in-force-%2D%2D8211%2D-to-cheer-liverpool%26method=full%26objectid=19122530%26page =1%26siteid=50061-name_page.html)...

Mr Colangeli has lived in the city for 44 years and, although he is a Lazio fan, will be cheering on Liverpool.

naked lilac
05-20-2007, 07:07 AM
MERSEYSIDE’S 3,000-strong Italian community will be turning out in force for next week’s Champions League match – but most of them will be rooting for Liverpool.

While the city’s bars will be heaving with Reds, Italian restaurants are also preparing themselves for the big night.

One of the main sites will be Bar Italia in Castle Street, where proprietor Franco Colangeli is bracing himself for a repeat of the dramatic scenes that accompanied Liverpool’s last clash with AC Milan in 2005.

Around 50 specially-invited Italian guests are expected to descend on the restaurant, where Mr Colangeli has a reserved room which will show the match as it is broadcast on Italian TV. continues (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpooldailypost/news/regionalnews/tm_headline=italian-fans-to-turn-out-in-force-%2D%2D8211%2D-to-cheer-liverpool%26method=full%26objectid=19122530%26page =1%26siteid=50061-name_page.html)...

Mr Colangeli has lived in the city for 44 years and, although he is a Lazio fan, will be cheering on Liverpool.

Have some Chianti for me. Sounds loads of fun... ciao

mrs zappa
05-12-2008, 06:42 PM
I am about to embark upon a project for a book dedicated to the families who lived in and around the little Italy area of Liverpool, mainly Gerard St, Christian St, Lionel St and Circus St. This also includes St Joseph and Holy cross parishes. Along with Terry Cooke author of 'Little Italy' and Ron Formby of the 'Scottie Press' families we are interested in contacting are...
Albertini, Baccino, Biolettis, Bordessa, Capaldi, Cappella, Chiappe, Colletto, Frediani, Fusco, Gianelli, Imundi, Innelli, Mancini, Marengo, Miello's, Minchelli, Minghella, Muscatelli's, Podesta, Riozzi, Sabatini, Santangelli, Silvano, Tambourini, Tremarco, Valerio, Varcelli, Vernti, Ventro, Vermiglio and Volante. Also anyone else with stories of the area are welcome too.
All information and photographs of the area which later became Gerard Gardens would be greatly appreciated either e-mail me here at the forum or e-mail to dmdanunz@hotmail.co.uk

Thanks Debz D'Annunzio

Gnomie
05-12-2008, 07:07 PM
A lot of mine came from the area, good luck with your book.

mrs zappa
05-13-2008, 06:40 PM
hi gnomie
any info about the area ???
cheers debz

Gnomie
05-13-2008, 06:43 PM
Hi Debz

I sent you a email yesterday.

:PDT_Piratz_26:

John(Zappa)
05-15-2008, 09:43 PM
Today Debz met Terry Cooke and Ron Formby.
Here's a pic of Terry telling a mesmorised Debz stories of Little Italy
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa113/itsazappathing/Debra-Terry1.jpg

ChrisGeorge
05-15-2008, 10:35 PM
Very good, John. :PDT11

Chris

Ged
05-16-2008, 12:35 AM
Terry and Ron are nice blokes, a mineful of information on the Scottie Road area.

robbo176
05-16-2008, 10:40 AM
good luck with your book Debz :PDT_Piratz_26:

mrs zappa
05-16-2008, 07:12 PM
thanks guy's fingers crossed all goes ok
Debz x:PDT_Piratz_26:

p.s the main body of the book will be about mosaic's terrazzo's the war years and the italian families.

Ged
05-16-2008, 08:12 PM
I see your pic is online on the scottiepress site Debz. I would contact Mrs Tambourini regarding the photo album she has which she exhibited at the Liverpolitalia event. Her relative was born above Charles Clifton's shop which was on the opposite corner of Santangeli's ice cream parlour (formerly the duck house pub) which was on the corner of Gerard Street and Bennett street as seen on page 35 of my 2nd book - the green one.

Ray Baccion is another must to interview. He is very funny on Paul's Gardens of Stone film as well as recounting the voyage and conditions of his ancestors. The other names I mentioned, omitted from Terry's book, will also obviously provide different memories from those also given in Terry's book. Did you put him right regarding the Walker art gallery statues?

mrs zappa
05-16-2008, 09:41 PM
Hi Ged
I will try again with liverpolitalia, I think Ray is fab and a great story teller, he's on top of the list, as far as the statues go its still a mystery maybe during my future research I’ll finally get to know the link with the D'Annunzio's if any
Cheers for the info Ged always appreciated
Debz

salsa
06-19-2008, 07:58 PM
I know this is unrelated to anything that has been discussed, but I was wondering if anyone knew of where the best places to watch the match on Sunday would be as an Italian fan? This website

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...9520-20597660/

recommends the Italian Club on Bold Street but I thought it was closed in the evenings?

If anyone else knows of any Italian bars or restaurants that will be showing the game please let me know

Thanks

Ged
06-20-2008, 11:34 AM
Hello Salsa.

I've just googled where the best place will be to watch the Italy v Spain match on Sunday and apparently it's the Ernst Happel stadium in Vienna. I've got Germany in the works sweep so i'm quite happy this morning :)

salsa
06-20-2008, 01:44 PM
Thanks for the reply, whilst I agree that Vienna would be without doubt the best place to watch it, I was thinking more in and around Liverpool, although if anyone has a ticket going for the Ernst Happel Stadium then please let me know!

mrs zappa
06-27-2008, 08:53 PM
Finally got one of those there Gerard Gardens mugs like
bet Ged's got one of these !!:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Ged
06-28-2008, 01:39 AM
Aye and the key ring and fridge magnets. See my souvinirs page ;)

mrs zappa
06-28-2008, 05:56 PM
Ok Mr F don't worry i won't charge for promotion, i enjoy my tea even more now i can see my Aunty Marys house on the front
Debz:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Ged
06-28-2008, 07:07 PM
Have you seen the book by our friend David Charters called Liverpool A world in one city. There are a few pages concentrating on the Italian community with a dateline mentioning that in 1919 Gabriele D'Annunzio captured Trieste from the Austrians. Always in trouble your lot :)

naked lilac
06-28-2008, 07:56 PM
:PDT_Aliboronz_24:Okay my Italian clan on here..

Where is the best place to have a real Italian spagetti dinner in Old Itay there? What street and all...????? grazie

mrs zappa
06-28-2008, 09:04 PM
Have you seen the book by our friend David Charters called Liverpool A world in one city. There are a few pages concentrating on the Italian community with a dateline mentioning that in 1919 Gabriele D'Annunzio captured Trieste from the Austrians. Always in trouble your lot :)

Hi Ged can't say i've seen that one will check it out though:PDT_Piratz_26:
and the best Italian in Liverpool has to be a Sicilian place called Piccolino's in Cooke Street and in Italy ...well anywhere you don't see tourists
Va bene! ciao Debz x

naked lilac
06-28-2008, 09:06 PM
Thanks Deb.. I am a Sicilian.. so this will be terrific, :) to try Piccolinos.. yum!!!

Ged
06-28-2008, 10:16 PM
And you're not even anyones godfather :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Waterways
06-28-2008, 10:43 PM
Have you seen the book by our friend David Charters called Liverpool A world in one city. There are a few pages concentrating on the Italian community with a dateline mentioning that in 1919 Gabriele D'Annunzio captured Trieste from the Austrians. Always in trouble your lot :)

What connection does Gabriele D'Annunzio have with Liverpool, besides passing through?

Ged
06-28-2008, 11:08 PM
Mrs Zaps is a D'Annunzio - that's all.

mrs zappa
06-28-2008, 11:16 PM
Mrs Zaps is a D'Annunzio - that's all.

hey thats all yer need capisce!:unibrow:

Ged
06-28-2008, 11:23 PM
Arrgh. Don't shoot!!!

mrs zappa
06-28-2008, 11:43 PM
say hello to my little friend
debz

The Gardens
06-29-2008, 11:21 AM
Hi Ged can't say i've seen that one will check it out though:PDT_Piratz_26:
and the best Italian in Liverpool has to be a Sicilian place called Piccolino's in Cooke Street and in Italy ...well anywhere you don't see tourists
Va bene! ciao Debz x

Deb, I have had many meals in Piccolinos, great food and even better service. A real 'Bouna Sera' from real Italians when you enter (not just a guy from Kirkby putting on a Italian accent ;)).

mrs zappa
06-29-2008, 08:19 PM
Yeh Ged couldn't have said it better, if you go to the Casa Italia and ask for brown sugar with your coffee they look at you as if you have two heads:disgust:

naked lilac
08-31-2008, 04:28 PM
Ciao Debz.. Ms. Zapps:

I took your advice , while in Liverpool, (found by accident)..Piccolinos... My mate, Robbo and I, had two children with us.. and looking for a place at night to have a drink and chat was difficult.. So, a nice man at Blakes, told us to go around the corner and there it was" PICCOLINOS.".and they allowed children ...

The next day, I went for a classic italian..pasta and salad and vino... I had just come back from Sicily.. and felt right back at home..

Prego for the advice on going there... One thing missing......Cannoli's.:handclap: great food, atmosphere, and priced quite respectfully... ciao naked lilac.. ps.. went about 3 times after that... :handclap:

Gerry
08-31-2008, 04:57 PM
Are there any Ice cream parlours in Liverpool that typical classical Italian Ices?

mrs zappa
08-31-2008, 09:54 PM
Ciao Debz.. Ms. Zapps:

I took your advice , while in Liverpool, (found by accident)..Piccolinos... My mate, Robbo and I, had two children with us.. and looking for a place at night to have a drink and chat was difficult.. So, a nice man at Blakes, told us to go around the corner and there it was" PICCOLINOS.".and they allowed children ...

The next day, I went for a classic italian..pasta and salad and vino... I had just come back from Sicily.. and felt right back at home..

Prego for the advice on going there... One thing missing......Cannoli's.:handclap: great food, atmosphere, and priced quite respectfully... ciao naked lilac.. ps.. went about 3 times after that... :handclap:

your very welcome glad you enjoyed, i agree cannoli rounds things off nicely.

Gerry those lovely ice cream parlours are few and far between in Liverpool, but there is a nice cafe in Bold Street next door to The Italian club that sells Cheshire ices and they are to die for, buon appetito
ciao Debz x:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Gerry
08-31-2008, 10:12 PM
Excellent. I tried some of the Cheshire ice cream in Chester and it was tops.

geo
09-09-2008, 12:13 AM
I've heard there's a short film called 'Shadow Boxing' by Andrew Smith featuring Dom Volantes upbringing, fights etc.
love to see it as he was a friend of my great grandfather

John(Zappa)
09-09-2008, 12:28 AM
Debz was with a Volante only the other day. Am sure she'll tell you more and hae pics for you. Infact watch this space as they say....:PDT11

geo
09-09-2008, 12:32 AM
cheers John

John(Zappa)
09-09-2008, 12:38 AM
Your Welcome and Welcome aboard.:PDT11

mrs zappa
09-09-2008, 10:15 PM
I've heard there's a short film called 'Shadow Boxing' by Andrew Smith featuring Dom Volantes upbringing, fights etc.
love to see it as he was a friend of my great grandfather
Hi Geo i am Andy smiths relation and have seen the dvd it is very good, next time i see him i will ask for a copy and hopefuylly send it to you.
Yours Debz

geo
09-10-2008, 01:01 AM
Thanks Debz look forward to it

AAAAFNRA
09-11-2008, 12:05 AM
Hi Debz I tried to get find your email but am unable? Got here eventually eh.
Hows The Nutter?? Hope he has been a good boy.Please phone or send me your email address as I have loads of items to show you regarding your news story.
Speak soon
Ant
PS. What has happened to "the zappa's" profile?

ItsaZappathing
09-29-2008, 02:05 PM
I just want to say well done to my Debz AND VERY BEST OF LUCK with the book.
I am so proud:handclap:

Today in the Daily post............
http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/...4375-21911087/

Spike
09-29-2008, 07:59 PM
Small Italians? What is the world coming too? :)

Serious, good luck with the book, I shall enjoy a read of it.

ItsaZappathing
09-30-2008, 10:54 AM
I just want to say well done to my Debz AND VERY BEST OF LUCK with the book.
I am so proud:handclap:

Today in the Daily post............
http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/...4375-21911087/

And now also appearing on local radio this week. Good luck girl:handclap:

ItsaZappathing
10-03-2008, 06:57 PM
Todays events
Debz met with councillor Flo Clucas at the Municipal Buildings today to present Flo with the book "Liverpool's Italian Families" which Flo and Nunzia Bertali will be presenting to the Italian parliament later next week.:PDT_Piratz_26:
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa113/itsazappathing/debz/Flo_and_Debra1.jpg

Spike
10-03-2008, 08:53 PM
Well done Debz :PDT11

geo
10-03-2008, 10:31 PM
Hope you get the credit you deserve Debz...When and where will the book be on sale??...cant wait.

The Gardens
10-04-2008, 10:40 AM
Well done, bravo Deb, a magnifico acheivement. :handclap:

Ged
10-04-2008, 02:01 PM
Well in girl.

mrszappa
10-04-2008, 07:59 PM
Hi guy's thanks for all the well wishes from you all.
Debz x

quincyg
10-05-2008, 01:49 AM
well done Debz. :handclap: nice to see all your hard work coming to fruition. I'm looking forward to seeing a better view of that old wedding photo you had.

naked lilac
10-05-2008, 08:04 PM
Ciao.. Bravo Debz.. Hard work pays off.. Great achievement.. Congratulazioni:)

ItsaZappathing
10-06-2008, 05:52 PM
I too would like to thank you nice people for the comments.
Thanx a bunch.:PDT_Piratz_26:

ItsaZappathing
10-07-2008, 01:00 PM
And again..
In today's Daily Post.
New book reveals Italian connection in Liverpool - Liverpool Daily Post.co.uk (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-life-features/liverpool-special-features/2008/10/07/new-book-reveals-italian-connection-in-liverpool-64375-21978672/)
Well done once again:handclap:

Spike
10-07-2008, 06:12 PM
Well done to Debz :handclap:

Im really looking forward to reading this book :PDT11

ItsaZappathing
10-09-2008, 11:00 AM
Here's 2 pics taken yesterday at the Town Hall
These pics are on the back of the forthcoming book.
(Pics by Ron Formby)
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa113/itsazappathing/debz/debora1.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa113/itsazappathing/debz/debora2.jpg

Spike
10-09-2008, 04:34 PM
Well done Debz, but why is she with Tom Slemen :unibrow: what a hog for limelight he is.

pduvall
10-11-2008, 04:06 PM
hello,
i have just been reading your posts on little italy, and thought i would ask if anyone has heard of or knows the name castellian a my gggrandfather came to liverpool from naples in italy and my mum says the family lived in the scotland road area he married here and they had several children so somewhere out there must be plenty of offspring but i havent managed to find any of them
pat.

robbo176
10-11-2008, 09:28 PM
Hiya Pat,
there is a CASTELLIAN James SWEENEY Margaret Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_LP/263/54 married 1905 1st quarter

possible children are:
Ellen Castellian 1907 Oct-Nov-Dec Liverpool
James Castellian 1909 Oct-Nov-Dec Liverpool
Thomas Castellian 1912 Jan-Feb-Mar Sweeney Liverpool
Elizabeth Castellian 1914 Jan-Feb-Mar Sweeney Liverpool
Margaret Castellian 1915 Oct-Nov-Dec Sweeney West Derby Lancashire
Mary Castellian 1917 Jan-Feb-Mar Sweeney West Derby Lancashire

hope that helps
Mandy:PDT_Piratz_26:

mrszappa
10-18-2008, 07:12 PM
hello,
i have just been reading your posts on little italy, and thought i would ask if anyone has heard of or knows the name castellian a my gggrandfather came to liverpool from naples in italy and my mum says the family lived in the scotland road area he married here and they had several children so somewhere out there must be plenty of offspring but i havent managed to find any of them
pat.

Hi tracing your family is never an easy experience; firstly the census collators often misspelled the names largely due to the language barrier. Secondly another misconception is the birthplace back in Italy again people often think their ancestors were born in Naples if from the south and Genoa if from the north.
Your family were southerners and they were more likely to have come from one of two villages in the Lazio region, which are Atina and Picinisco. A quick search discovers your family were living in Vauxhall ward and not Little Italy?s St Ann?s ward this could have been due to the work your gggrandfather undertook such as working on the docks etc.
In order to find the correct spelling of the name and birthplace requires applications via Italy and unfortunately this can take a long time. Try this site, which is always a good place to start? forum.picinisco.net
I was talking with a relative of yours today called Angela who works for the Culture Company, she was at the James William Carling street pavement art competition in Bold Street, maybe you know her.
I have yet to come across your name even when I was researching my Liverpool?s Italian families book, another place to try is Scottie Press online forum.
Hope this helps
Debra D?Annunzio

ItsaZappathing
10-22-2008, 12:25 PM
Well this new book even has caused quite a stir.
Even the celebs are wanting to get in on it.
(John Barnes,Debbi Jones,Mike McCartney and Phil Redmond.
(Pics courtesy of Ron Formby)

Kev
10-22-2008, 12:53 PM
Whats that woman doing in the last pic in the background, squatting down? In a public place too :PDT_Xtremez_42:

You must be very proud of Mrs Z.

Ged
10-22-2008, 12:56 PM
It was the pavement artist competition in Bold Street last weekend Kev.

Well in Debz.

Kev
10-22-2008, 01:35 PM
she's havin a wee

ItsaZappathing
10-22-2008, 03:12 PM
She could of been doing a Robbie Fowler. Did you see the white line ?

Spike
10-23-2008, 04:28 PM
Who are those people cwith Debz?

ItsaZappathing
10-24-2008, 10:14 AM
Who are those people cwith Debz?

John Barnes,Bebbi Jones(radio merseyside dj),Phil Redmond & Mike Macartney.
Hope that helps somewhat Spike.

Take a look at this..................

Friday, 16th November 2007. 7pm -10.30pm.

In the presence of and Supported by; Her Excellency, The Honorary Italian Consul, Signora Nunzia Bertali.

An evening of Italian Culture, food, drink, music and chat.

A look at Italian life in Liverpool, Including a look at the history of Liverpool?s Little Italy, and other discussions . With Local Historian, Frank Carlyle.

At The Academy of St Francis of Asissi, Gardeners Drive. Newsham Park. Liverpool L6.

all arts are involved in a number of community workshops, shows and open days (http://www.allarts.org.uk/events.htm)

Spike
10-24-2008, 02:27 PM
[QUOTE=ItsaZappathing;153630]John Barnes,Bebbi Jones(radio merseyside dj),Phil Redmond & Mike Macartney.
Hope that helps somewhat Spike.

QUOTE]

Lol I was trying to say Debz is getting so famous i cant recognise celebs next to her :)

ItsaZappathing
10-24-2008, 08:13 PM
[QUOTE=ItsaZappathing;153630]John Barnes,Bebbi Jones(radio merseyside dj),Phil Redmond & Mike Macartney.
Hope that helps somewhat Spike.

QUOTE]

Lol I was trying to say Debz is getting so famous i cant recognise celebs next to her :)

Doh:PDT_Xtremez_42:

ItsaZappathing
11-06-2008, 06:03 PM
Paul Sudbury's Gardens of Stone Full Version will be screened at the L/Pool history society in Shaw Street, Sunday 16th November at 2pm.Debz will also be there promoting her book Liverpool's Italian Family's.
Hope to see you there.:PDT_Piratz_26:

TravisT
11-09-2008, 01:07 PM
Hi I've just come across this reference to the gardens of stone as a relation of mine came from Christian St we are quite suprised as we have heard this only as a slang reference. I come from Glasgow originally the rest of my family are from Christian St and surrounding area of liverpool, are the gdns of stone featuring the area I mentioned and if so do I need tickets to the showing as my brothers and two uncles would be coming as well. looking forward to seeing this as I have heard so much about the place and people I will be able to see for my self these memories that my family use to talk about

Tomtiddler
11-09-2008, 11:24 PM
I just want to say well done to my Debz AND VERY BEST OF LUCK with the book.
I am so proud:handclap:

Today in the Daily post............
http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/...4375-21911087/

Looking forward to seeing you and Debz at the book "do" mate, a load of us from the club have organised a day trip. it's the least we can do after all Debz's hard work! :034:

Cheers - Tom.

ItsaZappathing
11-10-2008, 07:25 PM
Hi Tom
We're looking forward to seeing you and the lads too. Should be good:unibrow:

Welcome aboard by the way.:handclap:

ItsaZappathing
11-13-2008, 12:27 PM
Paul Sudbury's Gardens of Stone Full Version will be screened at the L/Pool history society in Shaw Street, Sunday 16th November at 2pm.Debz will also be there promoting her book Liverpool's Italian Family's.
Hope to see you there.:PDT_Piratz_26:

Thought I'd bump this up

ItsaZappathing
11-16-2008, 08:36 PM
A good afternoon was had by all. Paul,well done mate,excellent piece of film.:handclap:
The D'annunzio's enjoyed themselves immensely.
Maybe Ged will do a good write up ?:PDT11

Ged
11-17-2008, 12:35 PM
I took some photos of the screening but haven't got them on my pc as yet. Lots of people came up to Paul and I at the end, there's always good feedback. Most notably, quite a few people who have seen Terence Davies film said it wasn't a patch on Paul's which is praise indeed and coming from Livepool Historical Society and Athenaum members too.

Is Debz going to post her pics up, saw her taking a few too.

ItsaZappathing
11-17-2008, 10:26 PM
Is Debz going to post her pics up, saw her taking a few too.

Sure,shame no one else turned up:unibrow:

Ged
11-18-2008, 11:38 AM
The Grand staircase of the ultra modern interior of Hope Uni built into and around the SFX site facing the Collegiate.

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/5988/s080yl2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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Some of the audience and screen.

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ItsaZappathing
11-18-2008, 11:44 AM
Here's a pic from The Gardens of Stone showing from last sunday.

Spike
11-18-2008, 03:27 PM
Shame i missed it as it looked a good day.

ItsaZappathing
11-19-2008, 09:10 PM
Shame i missed it as it looked a good day.

Yeah it is a shame as I believe Ged got a round of tea in. :PDT_Xtremez_42:That's only a rumour though:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Ged
11-20-2008, 10:33 AM
Hi I've just come across this reference to the gardens of stone as a relation of mine came from Christian St we are quite suprised as we have heard this only as a slang reference. I come from Glasgow originally the rest of my family are from Christian St and surrounding area of liverpool, are the gdns of stone featuring the area I mentioned and if so do I need tickets to the showing as my brothers and two uncles would be coming as well. looking forward to seeing this as I have heard so much about the place and people I will be able to see for my self these memories that my family use to talk about


Hello TravisT.

Sorry, only just seen your post, possibly in moderation at some point then popped up behind the more recent postings.

Gardens of Stone is primarily about the Christian Street area, giving an account of living in Gerard Gardens and the surrounding area from the early 1900s through to today.

For further information please see my website linked below which shows a residents listing of Christian Street from 1963 and which in turn will link you to Gardens of stone information.

All the best,

Ged.

Ged
11-20-2008, 10:33 AM
Yeah it is a shame as I believe Ged got a round of tea in. :PDT_Xtremez_42:That's only a rumour though:PDT_Aliboronz_24:


Not just a rumour but a vicious rumour.

ItsaZappathing
12-04-2008, 01:38 PM
Hello Folks:PDT_Piratz_26:
Just to let you all know that Mrs Z's book will be out in the shops next week and also....
This saturday's Liverpool Echo will contain a piece all about Little Italy and an interview with Debz.:handclap:
(The book can be purchased by paypal too).

Spike
12-12-2008, 06:44 PM
I missed this sorry.

Well done Debz :handclap: im looking forward to reading the book.

ItsaZappathing
12-12-2008, 09:16 PM
Well folks the book is finally out.
Liverpool's Italian Families can now be bought at all good Liverpool Bookshops or directly from The Author herself.......
dmdanunz@hotmail.co.uk

Thanx:PDT11

Spike
12-20-2008, 10:02 PM
I got my signed copy today :) and met Zaps, I missed Debz but will meet up in the future.

My son paid for the book as one of my prezzies, so i cant read it for a few days:eek: still im looking forward to it.

Well done DEbz, You go Girl :PDT11:handclap:

ItsaZappathing
12-21-2008, 12:54 PM
I got my signed copy today :) and met Zaps, I missed Debz but will meet up in the future.

My son paid for the book as one of my prezzies, so i cant read it for a few days:eek: still im looking forward to it.

Well done DEbz, You go Girl :PDT11:handclap:

And it was a real pleasure to meet you Spike.:PDT11

pduvall
01-03-2009, 07:40 PM
Hi tracing your family is never an easy experience; firstly the census collators often misspelled the names largely due to the language barrier. Secondly another misconception is the birthplace back in Italy again people often think their ancestors were born in Naples if from the south and Genoa if from the north.
Your family were southerners and they were more likely to have come from one of two villages in the Lazio region, which are Atina and Picinisco. A quick search discovers your family were living in Vauxhall ward and not Little Italy?s St Ann?s ward this could have been due to the work your gggrandfather undertook such as working on the docks etc.
In order to find the correct spelling of the name and birthplace requires applications via Italy and unfortunately this can take a long time. Try this site, which is always a good place to start? forum.picinisco.net
I was talking with a relative of yours today called Angela who works for the Culture Company, she was at the James William Carling street pavement art competition in Bold Street, maybe you know her.
I have yet to come across your name even when I was researching my Liverpool?s Italian families book, another place to try is Scottie Press online forum.
Hope this helps
Debra D?Annunzio

hi debra,
and thankyou for your reply,
sorry its taken so long for me to get back to you, you made a couple of very good suggestions which i will now follow up, i am going to go to the registrar office in old hall st to get matthews marriage cert.
to be able to get his birth cert i would have to know the province in which he was born naples is not good enough and as i dont know the province i will have to start with the marriage cert and see what info i can gain from that then maybe i can move on with my research.
you are right about the misspelling of the names,as, over the years on each of the census matthews surname has been spelt differently.
i had a reply to a post on another italian website which said the name castellian does not exsist in naples and it was probably castellano!!! but as i said i will just have to wait to see what is on the marriage cert.
as for the bit about being with my cousin angela could you shed a bit more light on thet one please as i dont know of a cousin of mine called angela but now im wondering who she is!!!
thanks again for your help
pat.

ItsaZappathing
02-02-2009, 10:43 PM
It's letters like this in today's L/Pool Echo that makes it all worth while.
What nice words. :handclap:

Spike
02-10-2009, 03:28 PM
Thats a nice letter :PDT11

You are certainly touching people with this book Debz.

ItsaZappathing
03-28-2009, 09:15 PM
Dominic Volante, one of fourteen children born to Italian immigrant parents Maria Grazia D'Annunzio and Vincenzo Volante, quickly became a professional boxer and was lovingly known as 'The people's champion'. Dom will be immortalized in a plaque, the manufacture of which has been kindly donated by Paolo Grassi of Welsby Memorials and a boxing trophy donated by The Lord Mayor of Liverpool, Steve Rotheram. Both the plaque and trophy will be blessed at a special mass (10.15am) at St Francis Xavier's Church, Langsdale Street on the 29th of March 2009 and unveiled on Friday 17th April within the Salisbury Boxing Club, Salisbury Street, Liverpool 3. The trophy will become an annual award for the club's competitive boxers. Debra D'Annunzio dmdanunz@hotmail.co.uk

:handclap::handclap:

mrszappa
03-29-2009, 06:58 PM
Hello all
I would just like to say...
The event went very well with the church being packed out and wishes to thank all those who attended.
Grazie:PDT11

ItsaZappathing
04-18-2009, 09:15 PM
Yesterday a plaque was unveiled by the lord mayor (Steve Rotheram) and Debz (Author of the Fastest selling Liverpool Local History book and my partner) in memory of the legendary Liverpool Boxer Dom Volante.
Here's a piece from today's Liverpool Echo...

ItsaZappathing
04-18-2009, 09:32 PM
And here's a photo of Debz,The Lord Mayor and Paolo Grassi with the Dom Volante trophy and plaque.
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa113/itsazappathing/debz/LordMayor.jpg

ChrisGeorge
04-18-2009, 09:35 PM
Excellent! :PDT11

Chris

ItsaZappathing
04-18-2009, 11:33 PM
Cheers Chris.:PDT11 I forgot to mention that Paolo Grassi is the guy who made the plaque and the Hillsborough Memorial Eternal Flame. :handclap:

ChrisGeorge
04-19-2009, 12:47 AM
Cheers Chris.:PDT11 I forgot to mention that Paolo Grassi is the guy who made the plaque and the Hillsborough Memorial Eternal Flame. :handclap:


Great! :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

There is quite a substantial Italian community here in Baltimore. Older Italian immigrants play bocci (a counterpart to English lawn bowling) in the Little Italy neighborhood of East Baltimore. The Little Italy here features a number of popular restaurants. Two mayors of Baltimore in the 1950's and 1960s were Italians named D'Alesandro, father and son, and Nancy Pelosi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Pelosi), the current speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, a congresswoman from San Francisco, California, is a D'Alesandro from Baltimore.

All the best

Chjris

Spike
04-19-2009, 12:22 PM
Sorry John and Debz I had may dates wrong and missed attending:(

But well done, this is great stuff :)

A fine tribute to the great Dom Volante

Ged
04-19-2009, 01:37 PM
I would have been there but for work commitments, well done to Debz. :handclap:

ItsaZappathing
04-19-2009, 08:04 PM
Cheers for the info Chris and thanks to all. :handclap:
Debz (being lazy and using Johns pc):unibrow:

ItsaZappathing
07-17-2009, 02:45 PM
Due to the success of the book and selling out completely, the book is going to be reprinted but it will be a revised edition.
More details when I have them.
We would like to once again thank all those who made this possible and to all those who bought the book.Plus a big thanx to our Kev for the use of his forum.:PDT11
THANK YOU ALL.:hug:

Spike
07-17-2009, 06:19 PM
Great News :handclap: