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Building Eldon Street Tenements [Pictures from plans to completion]
Courtesy of LRO.
Over 100 photos were taken of this innovative scheme. A traction engine pulling a trailer carried the preformed slabs from Cobbs Quarry on St. Domingo road to the site. They were made using clinker from a refuse destructor and was masterminded by John Alexander Brodie.
wsteve55
10-04-2008, 08:12 PM
Kev' or Ged,
any idea of the name of the pub, on the opposite corner to the "Glasshouse"?? (pic' no' 8)
No sorry Steve, it's not even in A pub on every corner by Freddy O'Connor.
wsteve55
10-04-2008, 09:06 PM
So, the mystery continues:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
quincyg
10-05-2008, 12:33 AM
I've got to go to the LRO sometime in next week or so. Will see if I can find out, I've made a note in my history notebook :PDT_Aliboronz_24:
wsteve55
10-05-2008, 01:15 AM
I've got to go to the LRO sometime in next week or so. Will see if I can find out, I've made a note in my history notebook :PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Thanks:)
Spike
10-05-2008, 10:27 AM
The 1906 map does not list the building as PH Public house. It is all on the map and the glass house is listed as PH. opposite over Vauxhall road is a huge Gasworks, so maybe named after these?
wsteve55
10-06-2008, 10:22 PM
The 1906 map does not list the building as PH Public house. It is all on the map and the glass house is listed as PH. opposite over Vauxhall road is a huge Gasworks, so maybe named after these?
All I can say is, it's definitely a pub,as there are ad's for Kensington mild, etc, on the side of the place.It's on the same side of Vauxhall as the "Glasshouse",
quincyg
10-09-2008, 07:18 PM
Hi Steve
didn't have long in LRO today, but I did have a quick shufty at the 1901 Gores directory.
198 Vaughall Rd (Glasshouse) Mary O'Connor -Licenced Victualler
196 Vauxhall Rd on t'other side of Eldon St... Patrick O'Brien -shopkeeper.
sorry hun, not a pub unless it was in the 19th century? if you can give me a rough year or decade of when you think it was pub let me know and I'll have another look.
:PDT11
Waterways
10-09-2008, 08:35 PM
When were Eldon St tenements demolished?
Any idea why they never built any more when they were half the cost to build?
Brodie did not invent concrete prefabrication, so I believe, but a US architect, Grosvenor Atterbury, took up his lead and did some good work incorporating insulation into the panels.
wsteve55
10-10-2008, 01:17 AM
Hi Steve
didn't have long in LRO today, but I did have a quick shufty at the 1901 Gores directory.
198 Vaughall Rd (Glasshouse) Mary O'Connor -Licenced Victualler
196 Vauxhall Rd on t'other side of Eldon St... Patrick O'Brien -shopkeeper.
sorry hun, not a pub unless it was in the 19th century? if you can give me a rough year or decade of when you think it was pub let me know and I'll have another look.
:PDT11
Hi Quincy,
thanks for your time and effort,but looking at the same pic' attached,you must agree it looks like a pub,and, advertising ???bitter beers,and Kensington mild on the side? No idea of the date this was taken, but must be another year surely !?
Deffo looks like a pub to me too.
Here's more on the flats here, demolished in the 1960s for Our Lady's school.
PASTLIVErpool - Flats (http://www.mersey-gateway.org/pastliverpool/housing/flats/flats.htm)
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More about 'bad' prefab housing of this ilk here:
http://www.sw-norrisgreen.co.uk/decline.htm
It is known that Brodie's prefab houses were exhibited at a sort of forerunner to an ideal homes exhibtion at Letchworth.
Some more info here, Atterbury came later WW.
John Alexander Brodie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Alexander_Brodie)
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anonymouse
10-10-2008, 04:14 PM
The tenements were completed in 1905 and as the concrete is still 'white' presumably the pic was taken around that time. The sign on the pub reads 'BURTON Bitter Beers' ? maybe a Marston's pub?
In 1901 my great grandmother Margaret O'Connor was licensee of the 'Glasshouse', while my grandfather and his siblings worked as bar staff.
(Perhaps Ged will remember getting info for me a couple of years back regarding the GH and the Greyhound in Hatton Garden).
Ah yes anonymouse now you mention it.
It's a good bet the photo is from around the time the flats were finished, I know a photo exists of the first family moved in etc, it's in my 2nd book along with a number of other photos of the construction. This is the reason the city engineers dept took the photos, to show their development and finished state.
quincyg
10-10-2008, 05:17 PM
I'll have a proper look at a few years when I go back to LRO next week. will see if there's a pubs list anywhere as the directory only gives address and person living there.:PDT11
gregs dad
10-10-2008, 05:18 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3146/2926835676_5b44ff14ba_o.jpg
Here`s the Glass House yesterday. It looks like nothings changed from the black and white photo days. I thought it was closed down from a distance but it wasn`t. There are some more Vauxhall pubs taken yesterday
on my flickr site.
George
10-10-2008, 06:37 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3146/2926835676_5b44ff14ba_o.jpg
Here`s the Glass House yesterday. It looks like nothings changed from the black and white photo days. I thought it was closed down from a distance but it wasn`t. There are some more Vauxhall pubs taken yesterday
on my flickr site.
That bloke is leaning to much against the wall...the pub is lopsided. :lol:
naked lilac
10-11-2008, 12:33 AM
WOW! Definitely needs a facelift that pub.. a little paint maybe? Ya think the owners would do a fixer..I would be a little worried on sitting inside there myself.. wondering what lurks about ... Is it as bad in the inside as outside?:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
ChrisGeorge
10-11-2008, 01:34 AM
That bloke is leaning to much against the wall...the pub is lopsided. :lol:
Hello George and Quincy
George, isn't the bloke just leaning forward toward the wall to light a ciggie, which kind of gives a twist to the perspective on the building? I wasn't there, of course, but that's the conclusion I've come to just seeing the photo. :002:
All the best
Chris
wsteve55
10-11-2008, 02:19 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3146/2926835676_5b44ff14ba_o.jpg
Here`s the Glass House yesterday. It looks like nothings changed from the black and white photo days. I thought it was closed down from a distance but it wasn`t. There are some more Vauxhall pubs taken yesterday
on my flickr site.
That looks a bit like Tony McGann, checking the walls are up to scratch! :unibrow: When did the shop next door get demolished?
Hiya Steve, it does look like MrMcGann of Eldonian village fame. George is the landlord of the Glasshouse and despite its delapidated looking state outside, he still counts on some loyal regulars, my pa in law sometimes drinks in there, we used to live the top of Burly but preferrred Mrs Macks (the rising sun)
There has been no shop attached to the pub in all the time iv'e known it though Steve and maybe you're getting mixed up with the next block across from where the Aldi used to be. There's Jimmy's chippy on the corner, Marshalls newsagents then the bookies which was formerly the Black Dog pub.
wsteve55
10-11-2008, 03:10 PM
Hiya Steve, it does look like MrMcGann of Eldonian village fame. George is the landlord of the Glasshouse and despite its delapidated looking state outside, he still counts on some loyal regulars, my pa in law sometimes drinks in there, we used to live the top of Burly but preferrred Mrs Macks (the rising sun)
There has been no shop attached to the pub in all the time iv'e known it though Steve and maybe you're getting mixed up with the next block across from where the Aldi used to be. There's Jimmy's chippy on the corner, Marshalls newsagents then the bookies which was formerly the Black Dog pub.
Hi Ged,
yeh,your right,I'm thinking the paper shop was attached! I should know better as I lived round the corner,not that long ago,but there again, things seem to change so quickly, over the last couple of years!
anonymouse
10-11-2008, 06:22 PM
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk159/anonymousetoo/TheGlassHouse20061904.jpg
This pic was taken about two years ago (well half of it was) and that car was there then!! Does it ever move?
:lol:
quincyg
10-11-2008, 06:45 PM
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk159/anonymousetoo/TheGlassHouse20061904.jpg
This pic was taken about two years ago (well half of it was) and that car was there then!! Does it ever move?
:lol:
excellent...:handclap:
shame that car's there, it spoils the pic a bit.
robbo176
10-11-2008, 07:31 PM
This pic was taken about two years ago (well half of it was) and that car was there then!! Does it ever move?
:lol:
It moved when I took a photo last year :PDT_Aliboronz_24:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/robbo176/liverpool/mandys199.jpg
lindylou
10-11-2008, 07:34 PM
lol ! great pic :PDT11
Spike
10-11-2008, 07:44 PM
If you go around the back you find this
http://h1.ripway.com/andalucia/yo/v12.jpg
I took this 3 years ago, so not sure what state it is in now?
quincyg
10-12-2008, 01:57 AM
If you go around the back you find this
http://h1.ripway.com/andalucia/yo/v12.jpg
I took this 3 years ago, so not sure what state it is in now?
I've posted this before but to save me searching for the thread...
this was April this year
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging5fuji/Picture136.jpg
quincyg
10-14-2008, 09:25 PM
Hi Quincy,
thanks for your time and effort,but looking at the same pic' attached,you must agree it looks like a pub,and, advertising ???bitter beers,and Kensington mild on the side? No idea of the date this was taken, but must be another year surely !?
I went through the Gores jumping 8-9 years at a time from 1880 up to the mid 1930's and 146 is regularly listed as a grocers or shop.
it's possible that the sign on the side could just be advertising. although I can see what you mean about it looking like a pub. shame the photographer didn't quite get a bit more of the building on the right in.
sorry I wasn't much help.:PDT_Aliboronz_11:
wsteve55
10-15-2008, 12:24 AM
Many thanks anyway, Quincy! I've seen that photo many times, and it's just odd, that some people do know, so much about that area, but no-one has ever been able to identify that building,for certain! I wonder if the"Scottie"press might know?
Thanks again,Steve.
I'll ask Ron Formby Steve and let you know if he knows, i'll put a message on the forum too.
wsteve55
10-15-2008, 10:55 PM
Ta,Ged:nod:
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