Big Duncan

[Gnomie]

We need to sign a few more like this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSByFG_tafM

Lets get players who want to wear the shirt:PDT_Piratz_26:

[Ged]

Aye a legend in his own lunchtime to be honest. He loved EFC and the fans who stood by him once temporarily departed to Barlinnie jail for a previous misdemeanor and how better to win over the fans than to score against LFC and Man U so early in your Goodison career. However, far too many times he was also a liability in getting sent off when we needed 11 on the pitch. I far prefer to sound off about real trophy winning legends such as Sharp, Reid and Gray and another 20 odd unsung heroes of that mid 80s bunch.

I often think how the likes of Paul Power, Ian Atkins (who) and Ian Wilson (remember him) spent most of their careers elsewhere but won their silverware with us - the real blue bloods.

If you're reading this Dunc, I know you've got an Everton tattoo and you smashed those silly burglars heads in - and i'm only kidding.

ps - there was nothing wrong with your goal against Villa real - stupid collina...

pps - my screensaver is him strangling Freund.

[Gnomie]

Paul Power-What a guy

The 80,s team where legends, a team who wanted to play.
Lets hope we can find a few more like them :)

Yep Duncan could be a pain getting sent off at times, but it is his passion for the club that i loved:PDT_Piratz_26:

[Gnomie]

ps - there was nothing wrong with your goal against Villa real - stupid collina...

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Collina even admitted it the blurt :disgust:

[Gnomie]

This was posted on an Everton forum, It sums it all up for me :PDT_Piratz_26:

The arguments about whether the guy is an Everton legend may rage on but the fact remains that for many many Blues a vast amount of their favourite Everton moments include the guy. Injuries weren’t his fault. OK, the suspensions were laregely his fault (aside from a number of cards because of who he was) but let’s face it, he did what the fans wanted to do themselves on a number of occasions!

[Ged]

Yeah, some of us were lucky to see the 80s sides (my father-in-law lucky enough to see 2 different Catterick sides win the league either end of the 60s too) but for those who only started supporting the blues after the late 80s he did at least win a trophy with us, him of the blue nose :)

[John(Zappa)]

Well Big Dunc was an ok fella until HE kopped of with my mates girlfriend who he married.(Sister of John Parrots wife).
My mate was gutted and being an Everton supporter and seeing the big fella on the pitch was no fun for him. (Gotta admit, it wasn't much fun for the rest of us Evertonians either).
Bad Duncan!!!!!!!!!:PDT_Xtremez_42:

[Ged]

I was at an EFC 80s reunion shindig in the moat house a few years back, it was on the same night one of the French teams were playing LFC at Anfield with LFC having to claw back a deficit which they didn't.

The usual suspects were there - big Nev never turns up at these do's and Derek Mountfield was missing but there was loads of banter between reidy and Ratters with Sheeds getting most of the stick, in fact Ratcliffe was a right bum and kept sitting on our table getting ciggies off my wife - then in walked Big Dunc with his entourage - he was head and shoulders above them, was smoking, girls amongst the party and everyone made a beeline for his autograph - including moi.

One of the old team were telling me later that Dunc doesn't follow footy when relaxing and preferred his feathered friends instead, had refused footy related sports shows on tv and didn't give interviews - he was only interested in Everton. I asked Sharpy off the record what he thought of him, I'd already heard he thought Cottee was a greedy so and so as a striker - I shall not repeat here his thoughts on big dunc but they were less than affectionate.

I once made a list of some of the strikers that Sharpy had to partner, it ran to nearly 20. I remember his debut pre-season against dutch team Excelsior in 1980 (signed from Dumbarton) he scored as we won 4-0 and the likes of McMahon and Gary Stevens featured, Ratcliffe was a left back then.

[Ged]

One sites take on Duncs 'press'ing issue.

The history of Duncan Ferguson is being written, and it's in the hands of troglodytes. The mainstream press are proving precisely why Big Dunc never spoke to them, with a few innacurate and vindictive articles being written. Prime example is "The Good, the Bad and the Downright Ugly of Big Dunc", by Nicky Campbell in the Guardian. The first puzzle is why on earth does he incorporate Theo Walcott? It's telling, because the contrast between the two demonstrates where the hostility to Ferguson comes from. Walcott plays the media game: he's nice to the press, his bird is involved, and he helps to sell papers. By contrast when Duncan Ferguson arrived on the scene (don't forget, he set a British trasnfer record) he just said "I don't talk to the scum gutter press".

The media refuse to accept that anyone can be a hero without their permission. It erodes their authority, and hence the attempts now to attack the man.

The content of Campbell's article is full of factual errors and demonstrates an awesomely bad understanding of the Big Man's career. Apparantly:

He has played his last game of professional football. Never again will he be out with injury and/or suspension. There will be no more fines to add to the quarter of a million pounds paid to Everton over the years and no more opportunities to reach double figures in a season. He managed that once, at Dundee United

Err, he hasn't actually retired, he reached double figures twice for Dundee United (and he only played for them for two full seasons), and he has reached duble figures for us.

The meat of Campbell's piece comes from anonymous sources, a "a former international who played in the dark blue with Ferguson" and a "A former Everton team-mate, a model pro" (might they be the same person???) Some balance was supposedly given by Howard Kendall, but I can't see how the body of evidence suggests Ferguson wasn't respected and well-liked by his team mates. According to Campbell, however, "we are left to surmise from prejudices and infer from facts" therefore eschewing responsibility of being a good journalist. Despite the millions of stories about Ferguson that have emerged following his departure on fansites and messageboards, there's been plenty of things in the official media. Mikel Arteta recently said

He has been someone special at the club, a special character. We will find it difficult in the training room because he is a strong character and he always has nice words for each of us

But it's not good enough for a journalist to think that a man's refusal to make their life easy, permits them to use prejudice and inference. If you don't know the facts, then don't write the article. Natasha Wood's "The Crying Game" (in the Sunday Herald), does the same thing:

It would be fascinating to listen to Ferguson’s views on such matters now, but then he doesn’t speak to the media. I’m not sure that stance has done him any favours either.

For all I know, he is nice to his granny and does loads of charity work. But the facts I do know are contained in the statistics of his career – too much money for too few goals.

Surely if a journalist admits that they don't know much about their subject they should research it until they do? What really gets to me is this attitude that by default they have the responsibility to leave their opinion, and if the subject won't coperate than they have the right to just guess. Ferguson does do a lot for charity. It's scandalous that a journalist should write on the matter without making a toek attempt to understand it.

A poster on TPF recently summed it up best:

You'll never understand him from reading the press. If you want to know what he thinks about something then just turn up early for the match becasue noone spends more time with the fans.

I was at the Birmingham match and bumped into him at the Directors car park outside the Park End. He signed everything that was put in front of him, posed for every picture requested. The simple truth is that Duncan Ferguson is an Evertonian (not a footballer) and there's not necessarily a logic to becoming a hero. Throughout lean periods for our football club he provided the light - some phenomenal memories. Off the pitch he spends more time with the fans and has greater generosity than any other footballer I'm aware of. You won't read about it in the press, and the journalists clearly have no intention of researching it. For them he's his own man and they abhor that.


From; http://thefilter.blogs.com/thefilter/everton_fc/index.html

Where there's lots of other interesting stuff.

[Ged]

Duncan Ferguson to fly in for Everton Hall of Fame induction




http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2009/01/30/duncan-ferguson-to-fly-in-for-everton-hall-of-fame-induction-100252-22817649/





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