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Ross08
07-16-2008, 02:08 AM
This is another interest of mine, I wonder if anybody else has any memories they'd like to share. There must be loads of you who remember shops that have now ceased trading. Maybe some of you even have photographs...

Safeway, Rumbelows, Index, and more recently (in fact, a year ago last week) Kwik Save have all now ceased trading.

Do any of you remember Lennons supermarkets?

lindylou
07-16-2008, 11:28 AM
I'd forgotten about Index :) It was part of Littlewoods wasn't it?

PhilipG
07-16-2008, 12:22 PM
I remember Lennons.
Worked for them in the early 1970s.
I was at Liscard in the former Liscard Palace cinema.
They were taken over by Gateway (now Somerfield).
Liscard is now a Shoemarket store.
Funnily enough the Aintree Palace cinema went exactly the same way and is now Shoemarket.
Lennons were c r a p.
When the bacon went off we had wash it down with vinegar to kill the smell.
It was still unfit to eat, but we had to sell it anyway. :PDT_Piratz_26:

marky
07-16-2008, 12:32 PM
Somerfield has just joined retail history:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7508982.stm
I haven't photographed a single Somerfield store, yet.

PhilipG
07-16-2008, 12:47 PM
Somerfield has just joined retail history:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7508982.stm
I haven't photographed a single Somerfield store, yet.

I won't be sorry to see Somerfield go.
However, the Co-op has very few stores in Liverpool these days.

What's happened to Tesco's moving into what was the Co-op's Leo/Pioneer store in Park Road?
Latterly Mecca Bingo.

marky
07-16-2008, 01:00 PM
Re: Proposed Tesco, Park Rd. I heard that the Fire-Station has to be re-located (no idea where to), then the Care Centre next door will then move into the Fire-Station building. Could take a while.

There are still one or two old Kwik Save buildings around. Smithdown Road, for example still has the Kwik Save colours (store has closed down).

PhilipG
07-16-2008, 01:01 PM
I took this photo because the wording appealed to me.
So, it looks like Somerfield themselves have (y)ielded. :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3198/2650760498_ef6152687f_o.jpg

quincyg
07-16-2008, 08:17 PM
remember Freemans on Wavertree Rd?, Taskers are in there now.

I went there regularly with my mum and visited the grotto every year. best one they had was an Alice in wonderland thing.

would love to see a pic of it again.

other department stores I remember Binns, the big Co-op in London Rd and Blacklers.

Hendersons were in Church St before Binns and had a devastating fire in the 60's

lindylou
07-16-2008, 10:26 PM
My mum used to take us to Wavertree rd Freemans too :) I remember the place quite well. It was a nice shop.

I remember Hendersons and also when it was Binns. I used to like the food hall at the side of the building.

taffy
08-17-2008, 09:20 AM
Interesting web site

http://museum.woolworths.co.uk/

Click on 1910 link for info about the first Woolworths in England in Church St Liverpool

phredd
08-17-2008, 09:48 AM
No mention yet of "Fine Fare" and Greenshield Stamps.
Who remembers them ??
It was one of the earliest supermarkets.

Phredd

kevin
08-17-2008, 10:17 AM
No mention yet of "Fine Fare" and Greenshield Stamps.
Who remembers them ??
It was one of the earliest supermarkets.

Phredd

My first job on leaving school was at Fine Fare in Gateacre (Gateacre Park Drive?). It opened the day after I started - May or June 1967. Worked there for three months before starting my apprenticeship at Dunlops. Had great fun!

edwardo
08-17-2008, 03:50 PM
What about the maypole.

danensis
08-17-2008, 05:28 PM
No mention yet of "Fine Fare" and Greenshield Stamps.
Who remembers them ??
It was one of the earliest supermarkets.

Phredd

I happen to have a book of Green Shield stamps right here!

Their main warehouse was in Earlestown (or it might have been Newton-le-Willows) and I used to go there to service their photocopier.

John

skgogosfan
10-18-2008, 04:28 AM
No mention yet of "Fine Fare" and Greenshield Stamps.
Who remembers them ??
It was one of the earliest supermarkets.

Phredd

I remember a FF in London Road...it was a discount place like Kwik Save. I think KS took them over...but I'm not sure.

Dave.

Ross08
10-21-2008, 11:09 PM
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/LISCARDELECTRICPALACE2-1.jpg
Former Liscard Electric Palace cinema, later a Lennons supermarket and now a Shoemarket shoe shop - Seaview Road, Wallasey.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/KWIKSAVEBHDCLOSED-JULY07.jpg
Former Kwik Save - Claughton Road, Birkenhead. Closed down July 2007 when the company went into administration.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/KWIKSAVEWALLVILLASSOMERFIELDAUG2007.jpg
One of the original Kwik Save stores (as far as I know, it was actually built for Kwik Save) survives today as Somerfield (but for how much longer?) - Wallasey Village.

Ross08
10-21-2008, 11:23 PM
Some more retail photos...

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/CareLaunderette-MartinsLaneWallasey.jpg
I like this one, I think the black and white suits the mood of the launderette - Martins Lane, Wallasey.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/CurlikuttsMillLnWallaseyJuly07.jpg
This ladies hairdressers is still trading in Mill Lane, Wallasey. Quite old-fashioned from the outside (and the inside too by the looks of it). I remember when we were kids my mum taking my brother and I there for a trim and us sitting on a board placed over the arms of the barber's chair.
* The hairdressers has now ceased trading - Early 2009.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/CO-OPTrafalgarRdWllasey-2007.jpg
This one's the CO-OP in Trafalgar Road, Egremont. It's been a CO-OP for years, and I'd say - just looking at the building - that it may have been built for the CO-OP.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/DODGHSONS2007.jpg
Dodgshons isn't a particularly old shopfront, but it's a real-old fashioned bakery with huge pasties, beautiful cakes and old-fashioned service - Magazine Lane, New Brighton.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/CoffeeRoastSeaviewRdJuly07.jpg
The Coffee Roast in Seaview Road (probably one of Wallasey's longest-established businesses) now occupies two units, but the original facade remains. I love this shopfront.

M6AJJ
10-22-2008, 12:04 AM
Fine Fare was bought out by the Dee Corporation, which later became Gateway, and eventually Somerfield.

On the way to becoming Somerfied they also bought many local companies, from Keymarkets in the South, Macfisheries (if anyone remembers them) to Lennons in St Helens and the North West. and I believe Walter Wilsons in the North East.

They eventually bought Kwik Save (based in North Wales) and several of the Carrefour Hypermarkets, but because of the diversity of the stores they owned, they ran into trouble and could not compete with the likes of Tesco who were totally focused.

They then sold off the larger stores and ended up being a "convenience" retailer, but still were not making profit.

Recently the Co op bid for Somerfield, and subject to several enquiries (Monopolies etc) should be successful.

raymman
10-22-2008, 07:35 AM
What about Irwins? They used to be all over the place in South Liverpool, and if you look at the side of the bookmakers alongside the church at Penny Lane, you can still see one of their mosaic windows.

Ged
10-22-2008, 09:23 AM
Hello raymman. Irwin's practically has a thread of its own -here:

http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/people-search/4754-well-known-families.html



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raymman
10-22-2008, 11:39 AM
Thanks Ged, interesting thread, as usual.

baldyman26
10-22-2008, 12:51 PM
A couple more for you

Victor Value
Ashe and Nephew, (laterly Threshers)
Hargreaves and I think the old B+Q in Garston used to be called Jupiter if I remember.

raymman
10-22-2008, 01:35 PM
Another one I just thought of...Costigans.

irishseashipping.com
10-22-2008, 02:57 PM
[QUOTE=M6AJJ;153314]Fine Fare was bought out by the Dee Corporation, which later became Gateway, and eventually Somerfield. QUOTE]

Didn't Fine Fare acquire some of the small Scott's shops? I recall a small supermarker by the Smithdown Road / Ullet Road Junction - next door to what was the Midland Bank and I am certain it was a Scotts when I was young but switched to Finefare. By modern standard it was very small for a supermarket - only the size of a normal shop.

John

M6AJJ
10-22-2008, 06:30 PM
I think you are right about some of the smaller Scotts stores becoming Fine Fare.

Victor Value was an early chain of discount type stores bought out by Tesco, who later brought the name back and used it for a sort fighting brand against Kwik Save and the likes. As already well mentioned, the local company of Irwins became Tesco.

Hargreaves were one of the few local totally independant family retail grocers to survive into the eightees.

irishseashipping.com
10-22-2008, 07:12 PM
I think you are right about some of the smaller Scotts stores becoming Fine Fare.

Victor Value was an early chain of discount type stores bought out by Tesco, who later brought the name back and used it for a sort fighting brand
against Kwik Save and the likes. As already well mentioned, the local company of Irwins became Tesco.

Hargreaves were one of the few local totally independant family retail grocers to survive into the eightees.

This is the history of Victor Value from Wikipedia - they had a store in West Derby Village. Not sure who runs it now even though I drove past the other week.

Victor Value was a London-based supermarket group operating at the lower end of the grocery trade. It was founded by Victor Cohen in the early 20th Century and was subsequently run by Alex Cohen (who died in 2004 aged 99) and Morris Cohen (who were no relation to Jack Cohen, founder of Tesco). Its headquarters was in Waltham Cross (Dairyglen House) and the private label brand name was Dairyglen.

Old Victor Value stores which survive can often be identified by their distinctive blue and white tiled frontage. The Victor Value chain comprised a lot of fairly "grotty" looking stores, including some former Anthony Jackson Foodfare outlets, which it acquired in the early 1960s. It was well represented in what one might call the C2D areas, and was also well represented in market areas such as Chapel Market Islington, Church Street Paddington, and Leyton High Road.

In 1968, Victor Value had 217 stores, and was sold to Tesco for 1.75 million pounds. Tesco converted the larger branches to their own brand, but did not integrate the rest of the chain. In the early eighties, smaller town centre Tesco stores were rebranded as Victor Value, particularly in the North West of England. These town centre stores were used to trial new scanning and bar code technologies before launching them in Tesco-branded stores.[1]

In 1986, frozen food supermarket chain, Bejam, purchased the business from Tesco, who rebranded it as Bejam, before being taken over by rival Iceland in 1989.[1]

Victor Value was often known as VV. The name came from the handles on the doors of the store, which read "VV" when shut.

essexscouse
02-22-2009, 09:06 PM
What about Irwins? They used to be all over the place in South Liverpool, and if you look at the side of the bookmakers alongside the church at Penny Lane, you can still see one of their mosaic windows.


They were taken over by tesco i used to work in the tesco in woolton village the old manager then(c1970 John Goodwin):Colorz_Grey_PDT_16: used to work for irwins before the takeover

what about Sturlas on the corner of Park Rd and Nth Hill st me mam used to get stamps to buy school clothes a bit like provy vouchers

used to shop for me mam in Lennons in Garston

Is hargreaves on Allerton Rd still there?

taffy
02-22-2009, 10:05 PM
Is hargreaves on Allerton Rd still there?

This one has closed down and the site is now owned by Home and Bargain. Hargreaves shop on Rose Lane is now owned by Tesco.

jodie
02-23-2009, 03:44 PM
Does anyone remember steurlers i think thats what its called in old swan?
Jo

Samp
02-23-2009, 08:20 PM
They were taken over by tesco i used to work in the tesco in woolton village the old manager then(c1970 John Goodwin):Colorz_Grey_PDT_16: used to work for irwins before the takeover

what about Sturlas on the corner of Park Rd and Nth Hill st me mam used to get stamps to buy school clothes a bit like provy vouchers

used to shop for me mam in Lennons in Garston

Is hargreaves on Allerton Rd still there?

Irwins was taken over by a firm called Melia's before tesco stepped in!

Sturlas had shops in Grear Homer Street and Walton Road as well.

burkhilly
02-23-2009, 08:26 PM
Does anyone remember steurlers i think thats what its called in old swan?
Jo

Is that the building with the women's gym above on the next block to the Job Centre? If this is the shop then I don't think it was called Sterlers. Certainly it was a kind of small Department Store. I think it shut down in the early 70s I remember going in there: they had those money pipe things whereby the assistant wrote out a receipt, took the money and put it in a tube and off it went, presumably to a cash office. I can't remember what this shop was called - too young!!!

Samp
02-23-2009, 08:40 PM
Is that the building with the women's gym above on the next block to the Job Centre? If this is the shop then I don't think it was called Sterlers. Certainly it was a kind of small Department Store. I think it shut down in the early 70s I remember going in there: they had those money pipe things whereby the assistant wrote out a receipt, took the money and put it in a tube and off it went, presumably to a cash office. I can't remember what this shop was called - too young!!!

Sounds like Sturlas to me, they had the same system in Great homer Street!

irishseashipping.com
02-23-2009, 11:09 PM
Sounds like Sturlas to me, they had the same system in Great homer Street!

Blanche Lucas's small department store had a Lamson (pneumatic tube) System as well I recall from visits there in the 60s with my mother

It was near Penny Lane and after many years as a "Motor World" is now Hatton's Model Railway shop.

Some places still use similar systems but if I recall with the old systems it was used for each sale, rather than sending quantities of cash from the tills as appears to be the case now.

John

Ged
02-24-2009, 09:15 AM
Colliers in London Road also had the tube system for payment, a myriad of pipes taking the cash to the upstairs offices. They had those finely polished wooden drawers containing socks and underpants behind the counter - very Grace Brothers.

Sturla's were famous for their cheques as well.

lindylou
02-24-2009, 10:08 AM
I think the Co-Op used the system in the 'old days' if my memory serves me right.

I know the Army & Navy stores did.

anonymouse
02-24-2009, 05:01 PM
Anyone on here old enough to remember the system of wires which criss-crossed above head height at the old Woolworths store in London Road? The cashiers were in a raised cubicle which overlooked the sales floor and each transaction whizzed overhead with payment and returned again with the change! That store always had a distinctive 'creosote-like' smell as I recall. :)

18stanley
02-24-2009, 05:50 PM
Yes, I can vouch for the Sturlas on Walton Road - and the pneumatic
payment system - in the 30's. Can anyone remember whether there was
also a branch of T J Hughes, perhaps on County Road?. As for Irwins, there
was certainly a shop along Melrose Road in those days. Stan H.

Samp
02-24-2009, 07:50 PM
I think the Co-Op used the system in the 'old days' if my memory serves me right.

I know the Army & Navy stores did.

Message deleted, information already there. (The system with the wires!)

hmtmaj
02-24-2009, 11:41 PM
Is that the building with the women's gym above on the next block to the Job Centre? If this is the shop then I don't think it was called Sterlers. Certainly it was a kind of small Department Store. I think it shut down in the early 70s I remember going in there: they had those money pipe things whereby the assistant wrote out a receipt, took the money and put it in a tube and off it went, presumably to a cash office. I can't remember what this shop was called - too young!!!

I think this was called "Oakes and Eddon" ( spelling ) and they did have the "Tube System" for sales as did the Army and Navy in Old Swan.
Martin

wendyanne
02-25-2009, 04:58 AM
Oakes & Eddon used to sell chemicals and laboratory equipment such as test tubes and pipettes etc.

hmtmaj
02-25-2009, 07:43 AM
Oakes & Eddon used to sell chemicals and laboratory equipment such as test tubes and pipettes etc.

Oakes and Hulme ! not Oakes and Eddon ! :PDT_Xtremez_42:

Ged
02-25-2009, 09:15 AM
The Sturla's in Old Swan is now a row of shops and it was bounded by Belfast road and Fernleigh rd.

wendyanne
02-26-2009, 12:00 AM
Oakes and Hulme ! not Oakes and Eddon ! :PDT_Xtremez_42:

It was definitely Oakes & Eddon, I used to go there a lot with my brother who considered himself quite a chemist. I think it was in Brunswick Rd.:)

gregs dad
02-26-2009, 06:30 PM
Sturlas became Oakes and Hulmes in their latter days. there was never a T J Hughes on County Rd, otherwise me ma wouldn`t have got a tram to London Rd. They also had the money tubes in the early days.
There was a large store on Walton Rd called Frosts which if my mermory is right was originally Sturlas,it is now a Weatherspoons pub.
I think quite a lot of Sturlas trade was in Provident cheques and such

Samp
02-28-2009, 08:03 PM
Yes, I can vouch for the Sturlas on Walton Road - and the pneumatic
payment system - in the 30's. Can anyone remember whether there was
also a branch of T J Hughes, perhaps on County Road?. As for Irwins, there
was certainly a shop along Melrose Road in those days. Stan H.

Your not getting mixed up with Frosts in Walton Rd? This was similar to Sturlas and was one of the many stores that took the Provident cheque, which many mothers used to clothe the kids in the 40's and 50's.

jodie
02-28-2009, 10:09 PM
Does anyone remember steurlers i think thats what its called in old swan?
Jo

Does anyone have any pics of the above would love to see a photo,
Jo

brian daley
02-28-2009, 11:26 PM
The shops I remember from the 40's and 50's are the Home and Colonial,the Maypole,Costigans and Irwins. The big department store in Walton was Frosts,not as big as T.J.Hughes but as genteel as Grace Bros. I loved going to Lewis's as a child ,there were always demonstrators in the basement showing the latest inventions for domestic use. That is where I first tasted chicken noodle soup ,I must have had about six bowls full; one Saturday there was a man demonstrating a darning machine ( remember the holes you used to get in your woolly socks?) My mum was with me and she bought one saying it was a mini loom and made me darn my own socks with it. Does anyone remember the bomb site that was there before they built Lewis's? I can remember the sword swallower and the escapologist plus the mad geezer who used to have paving slabs smashed on his chest by a guy wielding a sledgehammer. They were a rough looking lot and never seemed to make much money because by the time they came round with the hat the crowds had scarpered. Used to have God botherers with sandwich boards ,marching around telling us we were all doomed. If Lowry had come to Liverpool then he would have had ample material to fill many canvasses.Bon Marche was a bit of a posh shop, as was Bunny's and how about the Wizards Den , I used to love browsing in there, bought fart powder ,exploding cigarettes and all other items that small boys made nuisances of themselves with ,especially stink bombs.

hmtmaj
03-01-2009, 11:24 AM
Does anyone have any pics of the above would love to see a photo,
Jo

Oakes and Hulme..
Tall building on the left:
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8985/oldswan2.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oldswan2.jpg)

You will find what it looks like today, on Spikes ( a member on here ) superb site of photos around Liverpool :PDT11
http://spikesaycheese.piczo.com/oldswan?cr=2&linkvar=000044

Mart

peter@walnuts
05-02-2010, 05:03 PM
Some of you must be children! Talking about Kwik-Save and Somerfield - what about Costgans and Melias as well as Irwins of course - any memories of those?
Peter

warbreck
10-01-2011, 08:54 PM
remeber walton vale when it was a decent shopping place with shops like cubbins cakes, rumbelows, woolworths co-op, joneseed pet shop with all the budgies, appletons hardware, brearly gents outfitters, isherwoods cousins and ali baba records along with tudor records and woolies to get the singles